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OT: update on the Lizard Woman
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Marina - 08 Nov 2004 18:44 GMT Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. The biopsy in July (my skin was actually 9 millimetres thick in the neck!) showed that the collagen strands are thicker than usual and further away from each other than normal. Polysaccharides have accumulated between them. I saw a dermatologist last week, and she said this is a known effect of long-time diabetes, though not very common.
Anyhoo, the doc set me up for phototherapy, i.e. UV light therapy, and I'm going for my first session tomorrow. It sounds pretty nice - first you take a bath for 10 minutes (they add something to the water to make the skin more receptive of the rays), and then you get to sun yourself for half an hour. :o) So I don't think I need purrs this time. I'm actually looking forward to it, since it's very cold and dark around here this time of year. I'm just hoping this will help with my lizard skin and take away this stiffness.
Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o)
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CK - 08 Nov 2004 19:20 GMT > Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because > the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. > The biopsy in July (my skin was actually 9 millimetres thick in the > neck!) showed that the collagen strands are thicker than usual and 9 mm!!!??? One more mm and it would have been 1 cm?? Are you sure you're not missing a decimal point there?? One would think skin 9 mm thick wouldn't bend.
> further away from each other than normal. Polysaccharides have > accumulated between them. I saw a dermatologist last week, and she said [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) I'm sure the baths and the UV light therapy will be nice and warm, but it just brings to mind an old joke on car repair shops - when they just give the car "light therapy", in other words leave car out in the parking lot... So you'll be getting some "valohoito" too. :)
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Marina - 09 Nov 2004 04:07 GMT >> Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because >> the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > not missing a decimal point there?? One would think skin 9 mm thick > wouldn't bend. No, I didn't miss a decimal point. The doc and nurse who took the biopsy were just as shocked when they measured it. And yes, I'm stiff.
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CK - 09 Nov 2004 20:15 GMT >> 9 mm!!!??? One more mm and it would have been 1 cm?? Are you sure >> you're not missing a decimal point there?? One would think skin 9 mm >> thick wouldn't bend. > > No, I didn't miss a decimal point. The doc and nurse who took the biopsy > were just as shocked when they measured it. And yes, I'm stiff. Omg! sure hope the baths and stuff will help. You'll be all bathed and pampered and laying about "lamping" yourself like a cat. :)
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Marina - 10 Nov 2004 05:08 GMT > Omg! sure hope the baths and stuff will help. > You'll be all bathed and pampered and laying about "lamping" yourself > like a cat. :) To my great disappointment, I didn't get to lay about, I had to stand in this cabinet while they zapped me, and only for less than a minute. The time will be increased gradually, but not to more than five minutes. <shrug> Nicer than any treatment I've had before, anyway.
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Annie Wxill - 11 Nov 2004 00:55 GMT ...I had to stand in
> this cabinet while they zapped me, and only for less than a minute. The > time will be increased gradually, but not to more than five minutes. > <shrug> Nicer than any treatment I've had before, anyway. Too bad you didn't get to lie there and be pampered. But, at least it wasn't too bad, either. I hope it helps. Annie
Annie Wxill - 10 Nov 2004 01:23 GMT ...
> No, I didn't miss a decimal point. The doc and nurse who took the biopsy > were just as shocked when they measured it. And yes, I'm stiff. > Marina, Frank and Nikki Marina, I hope the therapy helps. Maybe you'll have to move to a sunnier climate. Purrs and hugs, Annie
Kreisleriana - 08 Nov 2004 20:07 GMT >Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because >the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how >worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) Purrs for your health and comfort, and that no kitties mistake you for a lizard. <Visions of Lisa Simpson in the Duff fountain, declaring "I am the Lizard Queen!">
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Lois Reay - 08 Nov 2004 20:10 GMT > Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because > the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > accumulated between them. I saw a dermatologist last week, and she said > this is a known effect of long-time diabetes, though not very common. Marina, are you a diabetic? I have just been diagnosed with diabetes, that's why I haven't been on here for awhile, it is taking me sometime to come to terms with it, I was hoping my Doc would phone me and tell me he had made a mistake!!! (no such luck) the good news is at the moment I am not on any meds just diet control. If you have any recipes, looking for non fattening pasta sauce recipes although any others would be appreciated.
Purrs for your treatment. Lois
JB - 08 Nov 2004 20:50 GMT In <1pQjd.5272$op3.200143@news.xtra.co.nz>, Lois Reay <loisreay@xtra.co.nz> shouted to everyone in earshot,
>If you have any recipes, looking for non fattening pasta sauce recipes >although any others would be appreciated. here's one I like: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20040210165855.GF31689%40mr-happy.com
as you'll see, the recipe calls for lamb, but you can easily substitute ground turkey or turkey breast, which is what I normally do. it's actually a double recipe that makes somewhere between 6 and 10 servings as posted. also, I doubled the spice proportions from the original, so those of you who prefer your food to be a little more subdued may want to reduce the proportions from what's posted.
Lois, I hope this helps you out as well as anyone else who is on a low-fat diet or just wants to try something a little different.
Jeff
Lois Reay - 09 Nov 2004 01:10 GMT Thanks Jeff, sounds great, will give it a try.
Lois
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> In <1pQjd.5272$op3.200143@news.xtra.co.nz>, > Lois Reay <loisreay@xtra.co.nz> shouted to everyone in earshot, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jeff polonca12000 - 08 Nov 2004 22:44 GMT Lots of purrs and best wishes for your diabetes to be controlled with just the right diet, Lois,
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> Marina, are you a diabetic? I have just been diagnosed with diabetes, that's > why I haven't been on here for awhile, it is taking me sometime to come to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Purrs for your treatment. > Lois Seanette Blaylock - 09 Nov 2004 01:25 GMT "Lois Reay" <loisreay@xtra.co.nz> had some very interesting things to say about Re: update on the Lizard Woman:
>Marina, are you a diabetic? I have just been diagnosed with diabetes, that's >why I haven't been on here for awhile, it is taking me sometime to come to >terms with it, I was hoping my Doc would phone me and tell me he had made a >mistake!!! (no such luck) the good news is at the moment I am not on any >meds just diet control. My DH was diagnosed about two years ago. Head over to alt.support.diabetes for *loads* of useful info, support, etc.
>If you have any recipes, looking for non fattening pasta sauce recipes >although any others would be appreciated. DH has found that he has to be VERY careful about pasta, rice, bread, and such, since starchy foods in general tend to send his blood sugar shooting way high.
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Lois Reay - 09 Nov 2004 02:36 GMT > "Lois Reay" <loisreay@xtra.co.nz> had some very interesting things to > say about Re: update on the Lizard Woman: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > and such, since starchy foods in general tend to send his blood sugar > shooting way high. Thanks for that info. I have been getting conflicting information, some of the leaflets I have here say to eat, pasta (but be careful of the toppings) rice and bread (oat or grain) I haven't yet joined any diabetic society - there is one that is local and seems to be quiet active. I am still in the denial stage!!!
Purrs Lois
Marina - 09 Nov 2004 04:17 GMT >>"Lois Reay" <loisreay@xtra.co.nz> had some very interesting things to >>say about Re: update on the Lizard Woman: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I haven't yet joined any diabetic society - there is one that is local and > seems to be quiet active. I am still in the denial stage!!! Pasta, rice and bread contain a lot of carbohydrates, which transform into glucose in your blood, so they will always raise your blood glucose level, but some raise the blood glucose more slowly and evenly. There are tables of glycemic indexes (GI) on the net which will show you which kinds of food will raise your blood glucose slowly and which will do it quickly. Try to choose the ones that do it slowly. Bread with oat or grain, for example, will raise it slowly, while wheat bread will do it quicker.
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Karen Chuplis - 09 Nov 2004 05:28 GMT >>> "Lois Reay" <loisreay@xtra.co.nz> had some very interesting things to >>> say about Re: update on the Lizard Woman: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > grain, for example, will raise it slowly, while wheat bread will do it > quicker. There is a book called the Glycemic Index too and it is very interesing. Lots of recipes as well. It's from the University of Sydney: http://www.glycemicindex.com/
They have a lot more books now! I have visited that site in a long while.
Marina - 09 Nov 2004 04:12 GMT >>Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because >>the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > mistake!!! (no such luck) the good news is at the moment I am not on any > meds just diet control. Purrs for you to come to terms with it soon. I've had type I diabetes for nearly 35 years. Count yourself lucky if you are only on diet control; I have to inject insulin 6 times a day. :o) As for pasta sauce recipes, let me dig around and I'll come back to you.
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Steve Touchstone - 10 Nov 2004 16:39 GMT >Marina, are you a diabetic? I have just been diagnosed with diabetes, that's >why I haven't been on here for awhile, it is taking me sometime to come to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Purrs for your treatment. Purrs coming that you'll soon come to terms witht he diagnosis. I'm sure others will be reassuring you as well. Just want to say that I have several diabetics in the family, and they're all doing fine. For some reason, Native Americans are prone to the disease. For some reason, all my relatives with diabetites look Indian. I'm a little bit Cheyene from my mother's side of the family, and a quarter Chocktaw from dad's side. Usually just claim the Choctaw blood, since that's provable Indian blood from the days when the government assigned numbers to the Chocktaws.
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 08 Nov 2004 20:37 GMT >I'm going for my first session tomorrow. It sounds pretty nice - first >you take a bath for 10 minutes (they add something to the water to make >the skin more receptive of the rays), and then you get to sun yourself >for half an hour. :o) Can friends join in? Sounds like a spa visit :-)
Best of luck and I hope the treatment is as nice as it sounds and successful.
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polonca12000 - 08 Nov 2004 22:46 GMT Enjoy the therapy, Marina,
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> Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because > the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. <snip>
> Anyhoo, the doc set me up for phototherapy, i.e. UV light therapy, and > I'm going for my first session tomorrow. It sounds pretty nice - first [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) mlbriggs - 08 Nov 2004 23:04 GMT > Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because > the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) We shall purr that the treatments are not only pleasant but effective. What is the status of your diabetes? MLB
Yowie - 08 Nov 2004 23:18 GMT > Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because > the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) Purrs that it all goes well - it does sound very nice.
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Christina Websell - 08 Nov 2004 23:29 GMT > Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because the > docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. The [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) I'm not sending purrs then, but just the hope that this treatment will improve your skin. I have a friend with diabetes and know what it can lead to - all sorts of nasty things. Oh, I just realised how bad that sounded. It hasn't led to anything particularly bad for her, but she did have a while where she couldn't get it under control and was very worried because of the side effects it can have.
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Christine Burel - 09 Nov 2004 00:29 GMT Thanks for posting an update, Marina. I think the treatment sounds great! Christine
> Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because > the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) Karen Chuplis - 09 Nov 2004 01:17 GMT > Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because > the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) I'll be really interested to see how this works for you Marina. Gosh, nice to have a relaxing therapy for once, eh?
Sam Nash - 09 Nov 2004 04:45 GMT > Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because the > docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. The [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) Purrs that the phototherapy does the trick for you, Marina. Sam
Victor Martinez - 09 Nov 2004 12:52 GMT Glad to hear the treatment is like a spa visit!
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Adrian - 10 Nov 2004 10:22 GMT > Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because > the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how > worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) When you said phototherapy I imagined you sitting in a comfortable chair looking at pictures of kittens, I think I'd find that quite thereputic.
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Steve Touchstone - 10 Nov 2004 16:39 GMT >Some of you may remember that I was worried earlier this year because >the docs discovered I have thickened skin around the neck and shoulders. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >Just thought I should let you all know, in case anyone remembered how >worried I was six months ago. This sounds promising. And nice. :o) Aw sucks, we're sending purrs anyhow. Glad to hear that your not worrying and actually looking for ward to the treatment
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