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Toilet Tragedy (or, Friday was Maintenance Man Day) OT

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jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 14:32 GMT
Late Thursday night the toilet in the master bathroom overflowed.  So I got
out my trusty plunger and plunged, plunged, plunged.  Tried to flush it
again, nope... let's just overflow some more, shall we?  There's not enough
water on the floor yet!  I stopped it, but not quite soon enough.  And that
second time I noticed something odd; it didn't SOUND right.*

Now what nitwit decided half the bathroom should be carpeted?  The part
where the toilet and tub sit is tiled; the part by the vanity is carpeted.
So not only is my toilet f'd up, the carpeting is soaked!  Of course this
was done to save money... except in situations like mine where it's costing
them a pretty penny to deal with!

So anyway, I take the lid off the tank.  I'm looking; the flapper is still
correctly attached to the flush handle.  Hmmm.  Okay, it's already soaking
wet so let's see what it's doing.  *Ah, when I flush, rather than it waiting
a few seconds to actually start to flush water from the bowl, the inflow
valve connected to the float device starts pouring water to refill the tank
immediately but the toilet hasn't flushed yet!  So the bowl AND the tank
fill up.  This is a bad thing.

I found if I hold up the lever that controls the fresh water inflow for a
few seconds the toilet would flush, maybe.  And alas, my second bathroom
toilet reacted the same way (but I stopped it before it flooded).

Anyway, Friday the maintenance guy showed up bright and early.  He snaked
the toilet in the master bath.  Still didn't work.  Checked the 2nd
bathroom; same deal.  So HMMMM, the problem is on the outside in the outflow
drain that runs under the apartment, which is on a cement slab.  We walked
around outside until we found the "cleanout" trap where water was flooding
up from a PVC pipe sticking up out of the ground.

Oh, sorry, we'll have to call a plumber.  And it's Friday so hopefully
they'll
show up today.  At this point I seriously had visions of going to the dollar
store and buying a kiddie training potty to use if the plumbers didn't show
up...  can't go all weekend without a toilet!

WHEW!  The plumber arrived within the hour.  I showed him where the cleanout
thing is and he cleared the blockage in the drain.  Had me test my toilets.
YAY!  They work!

Who the hell puts carpet in a bathroom?  Yeah, I know it's cheaper... except
when the landlord has to replace it and the padding!  Anyway... the first
maintenance guy had lifted up the carpet in the bathroom, but it was cut in
one piece going into the bedroom.  And the water extended out from the
master bathroom into the bedroom carpet by about 1 foot.  Guy #1 said he
couldn't do anything, they'd have to bring in the carpet people.  Great.  I
need more maintenance guys traipsing around.  It's what I live for!  Bring
'em on!

So they sent out the "Carpet Guys".  They pulled out the soaked padding
which not only encompassed the soaking wet carpeted area in the master bath
but also extended out about a foot the length of my inside bedroom wall by
the bathroom.  They mopped up the cement slab, then put the carpet back down
and shop-vac'd the carpet.  It's still damp so they'll be back sometime next
week to replace the padding once it's completely dry.

That was my extremely fun (NOT!) maintenance men Friday.

Persia hid under the bed the entire time.  I thought she'd run for the
closet in here when the first knock came on the door, but she was in the
entry way by the front door and I guess she didn't know what to do.  So she
darted back to my bedroom and went under the bed.  Poor baby had to deal
with all these strange guys coming in, making lots of noise, ripping up
stuff, talking loud, vacuuming, in *her* domain!  The guy who came in to
deal with the carpet was kind enough to unplug and move her kitty fountain,
saying to me, "I have 2 cats and I had a fountain like that for mine.
Stupid me, I broke theirs during a move!"  Awww, I love a cat lover carpet
guy :)

Jill
Bettina - 04 Aug 2007 17:23 GMT
> Late Thursday night the toilet in the master bathroom overflowed.  So I got
> out my trusty plunger and plunged, plunged, plunged.  Tried to flush it
[quoted text clipped - 75 lines]
> `
> end

My god - what a day!
I presume you`ll have a veery relaxed evening now that the hassle has
set.
Three martinis anyone? <g>
mlbriggs - 04 Aug 2007 17:37 GMT
> Late Thursday night the toilet in the master bathroom overflowed.  So I
> got out my trusty plunger and plunged, plunged, plunged.  Tried to flush
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
>
> Jill

Been there -- done that many times -- my favorite thing to hate.
Sending deepest sympathy and purrs for a good plumber.   MLB
Jack Campin - bogus address - 04 Aug 2007 18:15 GMT
[article that was fine except for this...]
> begin 666 lol.gif

Please don't do that.  Not only do a lot of people's newsreaders
not handle HTML, some servers will junk whole groups if they
contain HTML postings (too many ways for them to hide bad stuff).
It's not worth it just for an animated smiley.

==============  j-c  ======  @  ======  purr . demon . co . uk  ==============
Jack Campin:  11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/>   for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 19:04 GMT
> [article that was fine except for this...]
>> begin 666 lol.gif
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> contain HTML postings (too many ways for them to hide bad stuff).
> It's not worth it just for an animated smiley.

Ah, now I remember why I put you in my k/f.  Most people's newsreaders can
handle a simple smiley.  Yours apparently is inferior to OE LOL.  I don't
post in HTML so if your newsreader can't handle a simple little .gif I'm so
sorry!

Jill
Adrian A - 04 Aug 2007 19:07 GMT
>> [article that was fine except for this...]
>>> begin 666 lol.gif
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Jill

Jack wasn't the only one annoyed by your attachment, I assumed it was a
mistake.
Signature

Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 19:12 GMT
>>> [article that was fine except for this...]
>>>> begin 666 lol.gif
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Jack wasn't the only one annoyed by your attachment, I assumed it was
> a mistake.

It wasn't an attachment.  I use :) all the time here, as do many others.
Sherry - 04 Aug 2007 19:18 GMT
> >>> [article that was fine except for this...]
> >>>> begin 666 lol.gif
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

This is the first time I've seen it on one of your posts. Like Adrian,
I assumed it was a mistake.

Sherry
Adrian A - 04 Aug 2007 19:19 GMT
>>>> [article that was fine except for this...]
>>>>> begin 666 lol.gif
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> It wasn't an attachment.  I use :) all the time here, as do many
> others.

It showed as an attached gif file here, not as a smiley which I've seen you
use hundreds of times. I don't know why that post was different to all the
others.
Signature

Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera)
Cats leave pawprints on your heart
http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

Sherry - 04 Aug 2007 19:23 GMT
> >>> [article that was fine except for this...]
> >>>> begin 666 lol.gif
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm not sure you know what we are talking about. Below your name,  it
said "LOLgif", and was followed
by six solid lines of odd characters. That's how it looked to my
newsreader, anyway. It wasn't just
a keyboarded smiley face.

Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Aug 2007 19:48 GMT
>>>>[article that was fine except for this...]
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> It wasn't an attachment.  I use :) all the time here, as do many others.

It showed as a ".gif" attachement on MY computer - and
apparently on Jack's and Adrian's as well. " :-) " is merely
typed from your keyboard - the animated stuff has to be
referenced somehow, so WILL show as an attachment on other
computers.

I didn't realize attachments were against "netiquette"
(since one has to actually click on them, and need not if
one doesn't want to see them).   However, a mere animated
smiley really isn't worth the reader's time.
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 21:09 GMT
>>>> [article that was fine except for this...]
>>>>> begin 666 lol.gif
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> It wasn't an attachment.  I use :) all the time here, as do many
> others.

I have no idea why my simple :) showed up as an attachment, okay?  :(  I
didn't do it on purpose and for Jack to call me out like I'm a friggin
newbie about it... hey, I've been here since the beginning of time.  I don't
appreciate that.  I can't help that sometimes things on usenet screw up; I
don't run the newsgroups.  I certainly didn't do it on purpose.  I know this
isn't a binary group and I don't post in HTML.  I don't send email in HTML.
Everyone happy?

Jill
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 22:18 GMT
>>> Jack wasn't the only one annoyed by your attachment, I assumed it
>>> was a mistake.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I have no idea why my simple :) showed up as an attachment, okay?  :(
> I didn't do it;

I post in text only... so sorry if my ISP screwed everything up.  You guys
know I don't post in HTML... never have, never will.  I'm not some AOL
teenager.

Jack, no reason to jump on me for a mistake I didn't make since I have all
my ng settings set to text only.  As for why I k/f'd you, you refuse to
spay/neuter your outdoor cats.  That's reason enough for me.
Jack Campin - bogus address - 04 Aug 2007 21:53 GMT
>> [article that was fine except for this...]
>>> begin 666 lol.gif
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> newsreaders can handle a simple smiley.  Yours apparently
> is inferior to OE LOL.  I don't post in HTML

OK, I didn't see how you'd done it.  It was an embedded binary
in any case.  That is enough to set off warning flags in many
systems, e.g. it will get your message blocked by firewalls on
work machines and might even get you automatically blacklisted
as a spammer - text-only groups like the "rec" hierarchy aren't
supposed to have binaries of any sort.

> so if your newsreader can't handle a simple little .gif I'm so
> sorry!

Mine handled it just fine and my news server doesn't care.  I was
thinking of OTHER PEOPLE (*you* included, as taking the hint would
have meant your messages would not have risked being blocked).  Is
that a new concept to you?

I've no idea what your grudge really is.  Whatever it is, drop it.
I've never posted anything negative about you.

==============  j-c  ======  @  ======  purr . demon . co . uk  ==============
Jack Campin:  11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/>   for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Aug 2007 22:32 GMT
>> so if your newsreader can't handle a simple little .gif I'm so
>> sorry!

> Mine handled it just fine and my news server doesn't care.  I was
> thinking of OTHER PEOPLE (*you* included, as taking the hint would
> have meant your messages would not have risked being blocked).  Is
> that a new concept to you?

> I've no idea what your grudge really is.  Whatever it is, drop it.
> I've never posted anything negative about you.

I think Jill's response to your polite request was very rude. Lots
of people can't afford to keep upgrading to new software, and many of
us prefer to use text-only news readers. There are good reasons for
it. I'm logged into a remote Linux shell and I use tin to read news.
It doesn't support binary content of any kind (although my SSH client
does support hypertext links, which is nice). It's one of the best
virus protections around - I don't download any mail or news. I read
everything remotely.

The drawback is that I can't see attachments, but most of the time,
that's no loss. I don't give a damn that I can't see an animated
smiley. And if I want to, I can save the file (in a directory on the
remote server), run a utility that will extract the attachment, and
then move the jpg, mpeg, wav file, or whatever it is, to the web space
that my ISP provides me. I can then view the image (see the movie,
etc) via my web browser. Takes a little more time, but it's worth it
because I will only do this with people I know and trust. (Even then,
if something looks suspicious, I will email the person and ask if they
really sent it, before downloading.) I don't have to download anything
before I know that it's OK.

So I don't consider my newsreader "inferior", even if it has certain
limitations. And I don't think there was any excuse for such a rude
and haughty response.

Joyce
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 23:48 GMT
>  >> so if your newsreader can't handle a simple little .gif I'm so
>  >> sorry!
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Joyce

WHATEVER!  I had a bad day, okay?  That's all I was trying to convey and
Persia hiding under the bed.  Sheeeesh, it's not like the bridge collapse in
Minneapolis.  And I apologized to Jack so let's get over it, shall we?
Sherry - 05 Aug 2007 01:27 GMT
> jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> Persia hiding under the bed.  Sheeeesh, it's not like the bridge collapse in
> Minneapolis.  And I apologized to Jack so let's get over it, shall we?- Hide quoted text -

You've been having a lot of bad days lately, Jill. I am not saying
this maliciously or defensively. It
is just an observation I have made. I am on the verge of putting you
in the mental killfile, actually.
You seem so haughty and argumentive anymore. Like everyone else is
stupid except for you, and you
are so far above. Your post to Kili was awful, Jill, in the cooking
newsgroup.
I don't know what is wrong with you, but I hope you get over it.
Everyone has bad days. Everyone has
problems.  Sometimes I even save a post to e-mail, then read it a few
moments later to make sure it isn't
hateful or snippy. Just because I am having a bad day is no reason to
make everybody miserable. It doesn't help me,
it just alienates people away from me when I act crappy.
Like someone else said, even when things are going bad, try to be
positive and kind. It really makes
a difference in your own heart. It really is true that what comes out
of your mouth (in this case, your fingers)...sets
the tone for your own mental (and physical, I believe)..wellbeing.

Sherry

Sherry
jmcquown - 05 Aug 2007 01:43 GMT
>> jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
> are so far above. Your post to Kili was awful, Jill, in the cooking
> newsgroup.

Funny, kili and I talk on the phone all the time.  She doesn't take it like
you seem to.  In fact, she called me yesterday.

> I don't know what is wrong with you, but I hope you get over it.

I'm under stress you can't imagine and stress a cat can't change.  I'm
sorry.  I'll go away now.

Jill
Tanada - 07 Aug 2007 02:57 GMT
> I'm under stress you can't imagine and stress a cat can't
> change.  I'm
> sorry.  I'll go away now.

PLEASE, don't go away.  Pat will come back. ;-)

Pam S. who is not a nice person
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Aug 2007 19:27 GMT
>   Awww, I love a cat lover carpet
> guy :)
>
> Jill

Most of the maintenance people I get seem to be allergic to
cats!  They're friendly enough, but I can't help but feel
sorry for them as their eyes start streaming and the fits of
sneezing begin.  (And all I can do to help is provide a box
of tissues.)
jmcquown - 06 Aug 2007 14:26 GMT
>>   Awww, I love a cat lover carpet
>> guy :)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> sneezing begin.  (And all I can do to help is provide a box
> of tissues.)

That's a shame, Evelyn!  What a job to have that takes you into peoples'
homes where a large majority have pets, at least around here.  Must be awful
for them to deal with.

Jill
Takayuki - 05 Aug 2007 00:57 GMT
>WHEW!  The plumber arrived within the hour.  I showed him where the cleanout
>thing is and he cleared the blockage in the drain.  Had me test my toilets.
>YAY!  They work!

The hot summertime is when all the plants in your yard try to slake
their thirst by sending lots of rootlets to your drainage pipe. :)
I'm glad you didn't end up needing to share Persia's litter box.
jmcquown - 06 Aug 2007 14:27 GMT
>> WHEW!  The plumber arrived within the hour.  I showed him where the
>> cleanout thing is and he cleared the blockage in the drain.  Had me
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> their thirst by sending lots of rootlets to your drainage pipe. :)
> I'm glad you didn't end up needing to share Persia's litter box.

LOL it was problematic, to say the least Tak.  Before they showed up Friday
morning I had to drive to the store down the street to borrow their
bathroom... and the ladies room was out of toilet paper!  Oh gawd.
Thankfully they had some paper towels.  I was seriously thinking I might
have to use a bucket if the guys didn't show up pretty darn fast.

Jill
Tanada - 07 Aug 2007 02:58 GMT
> LOL it was problematic, to say the least Tak.  Before they
> showed up Friday
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> have to use a bucket if the guys didn't show up pretty darn
> fast.

I'd have been asking for help renting a porta potty, I think.

Pam S. smiling
Lesley - 05 Aug 2007 16:50 GMT
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Gibberish- harmless gibberish that's all- will people stop getting
annoyed by it! I read Jill's post and didn't even notice it until
someone mentioned it.

Condolences with the plumbers Jill- as I've said before sometime over
the next few months we've got to have new windows, new bathroom, new
kitchen and a rewire done so you can imagine just how many weeks we
are going to have work people in????

I am not looking forward to that!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
jofirey - 05 Aug 2007 17:51 GMT
>> begin 666 lol.gif
>> M1TE&.#EA#P`/`)$"`````/__`````````"'_"TY%5%-#05!%,BXP`P$````A
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> I am not looking forward to that!

I don't envy you a bit.  Last time we had workers in, I took Charlie to
Alaska.  Maybe a little extreme, but he was in the military for over twenty
years and moved constantly.  When he retired and we bought this house, he
was finally home.  He tenses up when ever anyone messes with it.  Even if
what they do is good and necessary.

Jo
jmcquown - 06 Aug 2007 14:30 GMT
>> begin 666 lol.gif
>> M1TE&.#EA#P`/`)$"`````/__`````````"'_"TY%5%-#05!%,BXP`P$````A
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> annoyed by it! I read Jill's post and didn't even notice it until
> someone mentioned it.

I certainly didn't post in HTML on purpose.  I never post in HTML.  I don't
even send or read email in  HTML.

> Condolences with the plumbers Jill- as I've said before sometime over
> the next few months we've got to have new windows, new bathroom, new
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Lesley
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

I hear ya!  It was only a minor annoyance.  Persia usually hides in the
front bedroom closet.  Poor baby had to suffer under the bed while all these
people were traipsing in and out for most of the day.  She was a real
snuggle bug when things finally settled down :)

Jill
Lesley - 06 Aug 2007 15:29 GMT
> Condolences with the plumbers Jill- as I've said before sometime over
> > the next few months we've got to have new windows, new bathroom, new
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I hear ya!

And would you believe that after 3 months of disruption for Esther
upstairs, they've just come back this morning to start the rewiring!
Believe me if we could afford a hotel that would take cats we'd go
away for a few weeks! As it is we're even being asked to pay the rent
for the duration of all this mess and noise!

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
polonca12000 - 08 Aug 2007 22:15 GMT
> Late Thursday night the toilet in the master bathroom overflowed.  So I got
> out my trusty plunger and plunged, plunged, plunged.  Tried to flush it
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill

Lots and lots of calming purrs for Persia and you,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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