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Toilet Tragedy (or, Friday was Maintenance Man Day) OT
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jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 14:32 GMT Late Thursday night the toilet in the master bathroom overflowed. So I got out my trusty plunger and plunged, plunged, plunged. Tried to flush it again, nope... let's just overflow some more, shall we? There's not enough water on the floor yet! I stopped it, but not quite soon enough. And that second time I noticed something odd; it didn't SOUND right.*
Now what nitwit decided half the bathroom should be carpeted? The part where the toilet and tub sit is tiled; the part by the vanity is carpeted. So not only is my toilet f'd up, the carpeting is soaked! Of course this was done to save money... except in situations like mine where it's costing them a pretty penny to deal with!
So anyway, I take the lid off the tank. I'm looking; the flapper is still correctly attached to the flush handle. Hmmm. Okay, it's already soaking wet so let's see what it's doing. *Ah, when I flush, rather than it waiting a few seconds to actually start to flush water from the bowl, the inflow valve connected to the float device starts pouring water to refill the tank immediately but the toilet hasn't flushed yet! So the bowl AND the tank fill up. This is a bad thing.
I found if I hold up the lever that controls the fresh water inflow for a few seconds the toilet would flush, maybe. And alas, my second bathroom toilet reacted the same way (but I stopped it before it flooded).
Anyway, Friday the maintenance guy showed up bright and early. He snaked the toilet in the master bath. Still didn't work. Checked the 2nd bathroom; same deal. So HMMMM, the problem is on the outside in the outflow drain that runs under the apartment, which is on a cement slab. We walked around outside until we found the "cleanout" trap where water was flooding up from a PVC pipe sticking up out of the ground.
Oh, sorry, we'll have to call a plumber. And it's Friday so hopefully they'll show up today. At this point I seriously had visions of going to the dollar store and buying a kiddie training potty to use if the plumbers didn't show up... can't go all weekend without a toilet!
WHEW! The plumber arrived within the hour. I showed him where the cleanout thing is and he cleared the blockage in the drain. Had me test my toilets. YAY! They work!
Who the hell puts carpet in a bathroom? Yeah, I know it's cheaper... except when the landlord has to replace it and the padding! Anyway... the first maintenance guy had lifted up the carpet in the bathroom, but it was cut in one piece going into the bedroom. And the water extended out from the master bathroom into the bedroom carpet by about 1 foot. Guy #1 said he couldn't do anything, they'd have to bring in the carpet people. Great. I need more maintenance guys traipsing around. It's what I live for! Bring 'em on!
So they sent out the "Carpet Guys". They pulled out the soaked padding which not only encompassed the soaking wet carpeted area in the master bath but also extended out about a foot the length of my inside bedroom wall by the bathroom. They mopped up the cement slab, then put the carpet back down and shop-vac'd the carpet. It's still damp so they'll be back sometime next week to replace the padding once it's completely dry.
That was my extremely fun (NOT!) maintenance men Friday.
Persia hid under the bed the entire time. I thought she'd run for the closet in here when the first knock came on the door, but she was in the entry way by the front door and I guess she didn't know what to do. So she darted back to my bedroom and went under the bed. Poor baby had to deal with all these strange guys coming in, making lots of noise, ripping up stuff, talking loud, vacuuming, in *her* domain! The guy who came in to deal with the carpet was kind enough to unplug and move her kitty fountain, saying to me, "I have 2 cats and I had a fountain like that for mine. Stupid me, I broke theirs during a move!" Awww, I love a cat lover carpet guy :)
Jill
Bettina - 04 Aug 2007 17:23 GMT > Late Thursday night the toilet in the master bathroom overflowed. So I got > out my trusty plunger and plunged, plunged, plunged. Tried to flush it [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > ` > end My god - what a day! I presume you`ll have a veery relaxed evening now that the hassle has set. Three martinis anyone? <g>
mlbriggs - 04 Aug 2007 17:37 GMT > Late Thursday night the toilet in the master bathroom overflowed. So I > got out my trusty plunger and plunged, plunged, plunged. Tried to flush [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] > > Jill Been there -- done that many times -- my favorite thing to hate. Sending deepest sympathy and purrs for a good plumber. MLB
Jack Campin - bogus address - 04 Aug 2007 18:15 GMT [article that was fine except for this...]
> begin 666 lol.gif Please don't do that. Not only do a lot of people's newsreaders not handle HTML, some servers will junk whole groups if they contain HTML postings (too many ways for them to hide bad stuff). It's not worth it just for an animated smiley.
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 19:04 GMT > [article that was fine except for this...] >> begin 666 lol.gif [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > contain HTML postings (too many ways for them to hide bad stuff). > It's not worth it just for an animated smiley. Ah, now I remember why I put you in my k/f. Most people's newsreaders can handle a simple smiley. Yours apparently is inferior to OE LOL. I don't post in HTML so if your newsreader can't handle a simple little .gif I'm so sorry!
Jill
Adrian A - 04 Aug 2007 19:07 GMT >> [article that was fine except for this...] >>> begin 666 lol.gif [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Jill Jack wasn't the only one annoyed by your attachment, I assumed it was a mistake.
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jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 19:12 GMT >>> [article that was fine except for this...] >>>> begin 666 lol.gif [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Jack wasn't the only one annoyed by your attachment, I assumed it was > a mistake. It wasn't an attachment. I use :) all the time here, as do many others.
Sherry - 04 Aug 2007 19:18 GMT > >>> [article that was fine except for this...] > >>>> begin 666 lol.gif [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - This is the first time I've seen it on one of your posts. Like Adrian, I assumed it was a mistake.
Sherry
Adrian A - 04 Aug 2007 19:19 GMT >>>> [article that was fine except for this...] >>>>> begin 666 lol.gif [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > It wasn't an attachment. I use :) all the time here, as do many > others. It showed as an attached gif file here, not as a smiley which I've seen you use hundreds of times. I don't know why that post was different to all the others.
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Sherry - 04 Aug 2007 19:23 GMT > >>> [article that was fine except for this...] > >>>> begin 666 lol.gif [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I'm not sure you know what we are talking about. Below your name, it said "LOLgif", and was followed by six solid lines of odd characters. That's how it looked to my newsreader, anyway. It wasn't just a keyboarded smiley face.
Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Aug 2007 19:48 GMT >>>>[article that was fine except for this...] >>>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > It wasn't an attachment. I use :) all the time here, as do many others. It showed as a ".gif" attachement on MY computer - and apparently on Jack's and Adrian's as well. " :-) " is merely typed from your keyboard - the animated stuff has to be referenced somehow, so WILL show as an attachment on other computers.
I didn't realize attachments were against "netiquette" (since one has to actually click on them, and need not if one doesn't want to see them). However, a mere animated smiley really isn't worth the reader's time.
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 21:09 GMT >>>> [article that was fine except for this...] >>>>> begin 666 lol.gif [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > It wasn't an attachment. I use :) all the time here, as do many > others. I have no idea why my simple :) showed up as an attachment, okay? :( I didn't do it on purpose and for Jack to call me out like I'm a friggin newbie about it... hey, I've been here since the beginning of time. I don't appreciate that. I can't help that sometimes things on usenet screw up; I don't run the newsgroups. I certainly didn't do it on purpose. I know this isn't a binary group and I don't post in HTML. I don't send email in HTML. Everyone happy?
Jill
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 22:18 GMT >>> Jack wasn't the only one annoyed by your attachment, I assumed it >>> was a mistake. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I have no idea why my simple :) showed up as an attachment, okay? :( > I didn't do it; I post in text only... so sorry if my ISP screwed everything up. You guys know I don't post in HTML... never have, never will. I'm not some AOL teenager.
Jack, no reason to jump on me for a mistake I didn't make since I have all my ng settings set to text only. As for why I k/f'd you, you refuse to spay/neuter your outdoor cats. That's reason enough for me.
Jack Campin - bogus address - 04 Aug 2007 21:53 GMT >> [article that was fine except for this...] >>> begin 666 lol.gif [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > newsreaders can handle a simple smiley. Yours apparently > is inferior to OE LOL. I don't post in HTML OK, I didn't see how you'd done it. It was an embedded binary in any case. That is enough to set off warning flags in many systems, e.g. it will get your message blocked by firewalls on work machines and might even get you automatically blacklisted as a spammer - text-only groups like the "rec" hierarchy aren't supposed to have binaries of any sort.
> so if your newsreader can't handle a simple little .gif I'm so > sorry! Mine handled it just fine and my news server doesn't care. I was thinking of OTHER PEOPLE (*you* included, as taking the hint would have meant your messages would not have risked being blocked). Is that a new concept to you?
I've no idea what your grudge really is. Whatever it is, drop it. I've never posted anything negative about you.
============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Aug 2007 22:32 GMT >> so if your newsreader can't handle a simple little .gif I'm so >> sorry!
> Mine handled it just fine and my news server doesn't care. I was > thinking of OTHER PEOPLE (*you* included, as taking the hint would > have meant your messages would not have risked being blocked). Is > that a new concept to you?
> I've no idea what your grudge really is. Whatever it is, drop it. > I've never posted anything negative about you. I think Jill's response to your polite request was very rude. Lots of people can't afford to keep upgrading to new software, and many of us prefer to use text-only news readers. There are good reasons for it. I'm logged into a remote Linux shell and I use tin to read news. It doesn't support binary content of any kind (although my SSH client does support hypertext links, which is nice). It's one of the best virus protections around - I don't download any mail or news. I read everything remotely.
The drawback is that I can't see attachments, but most of the time, that's no loss. I don't give a damn that I can't see an animated smiley. And if I want to, I can save the file (in a directory on the remote server), run a utility that will extract the attachment, and then move the jpg, mpeg, wav file, or whatever it is, to the web space that my ISP provides me. I can then view the image (see the movie, etc) via my web browser. Takes a little more time, but it's worth it because I will only do this with people I know and trust. (Even then, if something looks suspicious, I will email the person and ask if they really sent it, before downloading.) I don't have to download anything before I know that it's OK.
So I don't consider my newsreader "inferior", even if it has certain limitations. And I don't think there was any excuse for such a rude and haughty response.
Joyce
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2007 23:48 GMT > >> so if your newsreader can't handle a simple little .gif I'm so > >> sorry! [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Joyce WHATEVER! I had a bad day, okay? That's all I was trying to convey and Persia hiding under the bed. Sheeeesh, it's not like the bridge collapse in Minneapolis. And I apologized to Jack so let's get over it, shall we?
Sherry - 05 Aug 2007 01:27 GMT > jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Persia hiding under the bed. Sheeeesh, it's not like the bridge collapse in > Minneapolis. And I apologized to Jack so let's get over it, shall we?- Hide quoted text - You've been having a lot of bad days lately, Jill. I am not saying this maliciously or defensively. It is just an observation I have made. I am on the verge of putting you in the mental killfile, actually. You seem so haughty and argumentive anymore. Like everyone else is stupid except for you, and you are so far above. Your post to Kili was awful, Jill, in the cooking newsgroup. I don't know what is wrong with you, but I hope you get over it. Everyone has bad days. Everyone has problems. Sometimes I even save a post to e-mail, then read it a few moments later to make sure it isn't hateful or snippy. Just because I am having a bad day is no reason to make everybody miserable. It doesn't help me, it just alienates people away from me when I act crappy. Like someone else said, even when things are going bad, try to be positive and kind. It really makes a difference in your own heart. It really is true that what comes out of your mouth (in this case, your fingers)...sets the tone for your own mental (and physical, I believe)..wellbeing.
Sherry
Sherry
jmcquown - 05 Aug 2007 01:43 GMT >> jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > are so far above. Your post to Kili was awful, Jill, in the cooking > newsgroup. Funny, kili and I talk on the phone all the time. She doesn't take it like you seem to. In fact, she called me yesterday.
> I don't know what is wrong with you, but I hope you get over it. I'm under stress you can't imagine and stress a cat can't change. I'm sorry. I'll go away now.
Jill
Tanada - 07 Aug 2007 02:57 GMT > I'm under stress you can't imagine and stress a cat can't > change. I'm > sorry. I'll go away now. PLEASE, don't go away. Pat will come back. ;-)
Pam S. who is not a nice person
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Aug 2007 19:27 GMT > Awww, I love a cat lover carpet > guy :) > > Jill Most of the maintenance people I get seem to be allergic to cats! They're friendly enough, but I can't help but feel sorry for them as their eyes start streaming and the fits of sneezing begin. (And all I can do to help is provide a box of tissues.)
jmcquown - 06 Aug 2007 14:26 GMT >> Awww, I love a cat lover carpet >> guy :) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > sneezing begin. (And all I can do to help is provide a box > of tissues.) That's a shame, Evelyn! What a job to have that takes you into peoples' homes where a large majority have pets, at least around here. Must be awful for them to deal with.
Jill
Takayuki - 05 Aug 2007 00:57 GMT >WHEW! The plumber arrived within the hour. I showed him where the cleanout >thing is and he cleared the blockage in the drain. Had me test my toilets. >YAY! They work! The hot summertime is when all the plants in your yard try to slake their thirst by sending lots of rootlets to your drainage pipe. :) I'm glad you didn't end up needing to share Persia's litter box.
jmcquown - 06 Aug 2007 14:27 GMT >> WHEW! The plumber arrived within the hour. I showed him where the >> cleanout thing is and he cleared the blockage in the drain. Had me [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > their thirst by sending lots of rootlets to your drainage pipe. :) > I'm glad you didn't end up needing to share Persia's litter box. LOL it was problematic, to say the least Tak. Before they showed up Friday morning I had to drive to the store down the street to borrow their bathroom... and the ladies room was out of toilet paper! Oh gawd. Thankfully they had some paper towels. I was seriously thinking I might have to use a bucket if the guys didn't show up pretty darn fast.
Jill
Tanada - 07 Aug 2007 02:58 GMT > LOL it was problematic, to say the least Tak. Before they > showed up Friday [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > have to use a bucket if the guys didn't show up pretty darn > fast. I'd have been asking for help renting a porta potty, I think.
Pam S. smiling
Lesley - 05 Aug 2007 16:50 GMT > begin 666 lol.gif > M1TE&.#EA#P`/`)$"`````/__`````````"'_"TY%5%-#05!%,BXP`P$````A > M^00%"@`"`"P`````#P`/```$-%!("6J=6-3 ^<5 )WI3.(X`Y9G!UFI>;,[L > M*;KV7><M;?TD'_ %6UDZ*54N6=I],II?)@(`(?D$!0H``@`L`P`#``D`!@`` > 7!!-0`"#JE"%0D'D-`AA69&F64ZI&`#L` Gibberish- harmless gibberish that's all- will people stop getting annoyed by it! I read Jill's post and didn't even notice it until someone mentioned it.
Condolences with the plumbers Jill- as I've said before sometime over the next few months we've got to have new windows, new bathroom, new kitchen and a rewire done so you can imagine just how many weeks we are going to have work people in????
I am not looking forward to that!
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
jofirey - 05 Aug 2007 17:51 GMT >> begin 666 lol.gif >> M1TE&.#EA#P`/`)$"`````/__`````````"'_"TY%5%-#05!%,BXP`P$````A [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I am not looking forward to that! I don't envy you a bit. Last time we had workers in, I took Charlie to Alaska. Maybe a little extreme, but he was in the military for over twenty years and moved constantly. When he retired and we bought this house, he was finally home. He tenses up when ever anyone messes with it. Even if what they do is good and necessary.
Jo
jmcquown - 06 Aug 2007 14:30 GMT >> begin 666 lol.gif >> M1TE&.#EA#P`/`)$"`````/__`````````"'_"TY%5%-#05!%,BXP`P$````A [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > annoyed by it! I read Jill's post and didn't even notice it until > someone mentioned it. I certainly didn't post in HTML on purpose. I never post in HTML. I don't even send or read email in HTML.
> Condolences with the plumbers Jill- as I've said before sometime over > the next few months we've got to have new windows, new bathroom, new [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Lesley > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs I hear ya! It was only a minor annoyance. Persia usually hides in the front bedroom closet. Poor baby had to suffer under the bed while all these people were traipsing in and out for most of the day. She was a real snuggle bug when things finally settled down :)
Jill
Lesley - 06 Aug 2007 15:29 GMT > Condolences with the plumbers Jill- as I've said before sometime over > > the next few months we've got to have new windows, new bathroom, new [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I hear ya! And would you believe that after 3 months of disruption for Esther upstairs, they've just come back this morning to start the rewiring! Believe me if we could afford a hotel that would take cats we'd go away for a few weeks! As it is we're even being asked to pay the rent for the duration of all this mess and noise!
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
polonca12000 - 08 Aug 2007 22:15 GMT > Late Thursday night the toilet in the master bathroom overflowed. So I got > out my trusty plunger and plunged, plunged, plunged. Tried to flush it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Jill Lots and lots of calming purrs for Persia and you, Polonca and Soncek
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