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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / August 2007This Really Chaps My Hide
The neighbors that live across the cul-de-sac from us have two teen age kids. The parents are going through a divorce, so 'mom' lets each kid bring home a kitten. Kiko is about 6 months old, and really starting to show his manhood. Jinx is a gorgeous little black sh who is about 3 or 4 months old. I went calling this morning to say hi and pet the cats. I mentioned (again) that they really need to look into spaying and neutering the pooties a.s.a.p. The reply I got was "Well, we really can't afford that". I swear to God......some people really make me pro-nuclear. Sorry for ranting. -bonbon That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in their driveway. GAK. -(disgusted) bonbon bonbon kirjoitti: > That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two > beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -(disgusted) bonbon And what do they reply to your innocent and wide-eyed question about what they're going to do about all the kittens that will be on the way? If I understood you correctly one kitty's a boy and the other a girl, right?  SignatureChristine in Laitila, Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com photos: http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb108/christal63/ photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/chkr63 > And what do they reply to your innocent and wide-eyed question about > what they're going to do about all the kittens that will be on the way? > If I understood you correctly one kitty's a boy and the other a girl, right?//// Let the kids experience the "Miracle of birth" because every child should, then dump all the cats & kittens at the high-kill shelter where they levae them under the illusion that they'll "get loving homes" because they "just can't cope with those damn cats" any more and they've "done the best they can" and it's "not their fault". No, I'm neither cynical or bitter. ;o) Good luck and purrs for making them see sense and for them to get those babas Speutered. Helen M >> And what do they reply to your innocent and wide-eyed question about >> what they're going to do about all the kittens that will be on the way? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Helen M Thanks Helen. Yep, I figure when I cat nap them and take them in for their spay/neutering, I might as well get them all of their shots too. I seriously doubt they've had them yet. -bonbon On Aug 3, 10:57 am, leoparduswei...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: snip> Let the kids experience the "Miracle of birth" because every child > should, then dump all the cats & kittens at the high-kill shelter > where they leave them under the illusion that they'll "get loving > homes" because they "just can't cope with those damn cats" any more > and they've "done the best they can" and it's "not their fault". .snip.. > Helen M One of our daughters accompanied a group of junior high age students on a field trip to the animal shelter to deliver a donation of food and to volunteer to walk dogs & such. Well, one of the kids saw her dog was there in one of the cages. Her parents told her they had given it to a good home. Some people really do make you sick. Annie >bonbon kirjoitti: >> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >And what do they reply to your innocent and wide-eyed question about >what they're going to do about all the kittens that will be on the way? >If I understood you correctly one kitty's a boy and the other a girl, right? That's correct. I'm thinking the answer is to just cat nap the babies, take them down the street to our vet and have them spayed/neutered ourselves. Of course, I'll have to do it on the sly.....it wouldn't be the first time I footed the bill to have neighbor cats altered. Of course there is always the pesky inconvenience of having to explain to the DH where that extra money disappeared to. But hey.....we're in love, and I have my ways of getting around that sort of trouble <g> -bonbon >> bonbon kirjoitti: >>> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > disappeared to. But hey.....we're in love, and I have my ways of > getting around that sort of trouble <g> Legally you can't do that. Those cats aren't strays. You could find yourself in a world of hurt if you cat-nap them and have an unauthorized medical procedure performed on them without the consent of the "owners". Jill > >> bonbon kirjoitti: > >>> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jill- Hide quoted text - It would be extremely hard to press that, though. If the cats are freeroaming, and have no ID. Besides, cats are considered "property"....what are they gonna sue for? Loss of income from kittens? I don't think so. I say, if Bonbon can afford to do that, go for it, girlfriend. Sherry >> Legally you can't do that. Those cats aren't strays. You could find >> yourself in a world of hurt if you cat-nap them and have an unauthorized [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Sherry Thank you Sherry. The neighbors have no problem with their cats being altered. They just simply don't want to put forth the money to have it done. I'm not scared. -bonbon > >> Legally you can't do that. Those cats aren't strays. You could find > >> yourself in a world of hurt if you cat-nap them and have an unauthorized [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > -bonbon If these people can't be bothered to take their kittens to the vet, I doubt if they'll be bothered to try and hunt down who performed vet services on them. Just take the kitties to a vet that's at least an hour's drive away. Would that work? Jane - owned and operated by Princess Rita >> I'm not scared. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Jane >- owned and operated by Princess Rita Thanks for the input Jane. The problem here right now is that my truck refuses to start, so we have one vehicle between us. I have to be on the ready if I want to drive the car, and do it before 7:15 a.m. or after 5:30 p.m. I can always resort to my womanly wiles to get my way though........ -bonbon >>> I'm not scared. >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > -bonbon Hmm. If you are willing to foot the expense, can you get vouchers from a vet (since neighbors claim it is just the money). Or would that be too much "up to chance"? > It would be extremely hard to press that, though. If the cats are > freeroaming, and have no ID. Besides, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sherry- We had a case in the UK where someone had got fed up of a neighbourhood tom cat spraying and basically took him to the vet to have him neutered. The owner tried to get the police & RSPCA involved claiming it was animal abuse and *theft* of his manhood. I think the party line taken by the police (when they stopped laughing) was that she had to prove it. When she went to the papers she tried to get the RSPCA to comment, and their line was well, "We can't comment on individual cases, but all companion animals should be spayed and neutered so the person who did this was acting in the best interests of the animal". It was actually one of the funniest things I've ever read. The owner tried to claim that the cat was psychologically scared because he no longer had his manhood. The papers had a field day about the owner.....oh, and promoted spay and neuter too. ;o) Helen M >> It would be extremely hard to press that, though. If the cats are >> freeroaming, and have no ID. Besides, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Helen M Well, maybe to protect myself, when I take Kiko (the male) in to get snipped I should have a set of neuticals applied to him? <g> -bonbon > >> It would be extremely hard to press that, though. If the cats are > >> freeroaming, and have no ID. Besides, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > -bonbon- Hide quoted text - LOL! Yes! Be careful. If you *do* become Houston's new Neutress of the Night, you may be sued for loss of manhood. (cathood?)....and the judgment may be that you're responsible for providing said cat with a brand, shiny, new set of Neuticles. Sherry you may be sued > for loss of manhood. (cathood?) > Sherry Tomhood >you may be sued >Tomhood I'll take my chances. The main focus on the importance scale is to make sure the kitties are properly taken care of. -bonbon > Well, maybe to protect myself, when I take Kiko (the male) in to get > snipped I should have a set of neuticals applied to him? <g> > > -bonbon- Hey! I'm on a laptop here. It's not so easy to replace the keyboard. Annie >> That's correct. I'm thinking the answer is to just cat nap the >> babies, take them down the street to our vet and have them [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Jill This is true Jill, and a very good point. However, these people are completely oblivious where cat care is concerned. They're always consulting me on how to care for their pooties. I'm thinking that next week after the DH gets paid, I'll simply approach the subject with them and tell them it's a gift from us. The teenage kids are really nice and well behaved children and they really love those kittens. They always invite me to go trick-or-treating with them at halloween. Naturally, I always dress up as a cat. Go figure. -bonbon >>> bonbon kirjoitti: >>>> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jill They would have to have proof that they owned the cats, and here in Houston that's copies of your vet bills showing where and when you vetted your animals - and it's pretty obvious the neighbors won't have those. Hugs, CatNipped > On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:48:05 +0300, ... I'm thinking the answer is to just cat nap the > babies, take them down the street to our vet and have them > spayed/neutered ourselves. ...> > -bonbon That same thought also crossed my mind, hypothetically, of course. Not that I'd actually advocate any such thing, you know. Those people probably are too dumb to notice. Annie , wobbling off the straight and narrow > That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two > beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in their > driveway. Is there a low-cost spay/neuter program near you? SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two >> beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in their >> driveway. > >Is there a low-cost spay/neuter program near you? Yes, there is a low-cost program here, but only certain times of the month, and at certain locations. Naturally, the 'clinic's on wheels' always seem to happen way over on the other side of Houston and by the time the neighbor sees fit to go the distance to get these guys taken care of, I'll already of secretly had them into our vet down the street and foot the bill myself to get them ship shape. -bonbon >>> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two >>> beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > care of, I'll already of secretly had them into our vet down the > street and foot the bill myself to get them ship shape. Again, you can't do that. They could sue the crap out of you. They could claim they were planning to breed them. How would they NOT notice the shaved patch and stitches from having the female spayed? I don't know about the neutering process but I'm pretty sure there's some obvious sign of that, too. Jill > >>> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two > >>> beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jill- Hide quoted text - What you're forgetting though, is that an attorney's services cost about $150 an hour. Even representing yourself in a small claims without an attorney is expensive, and a lot of hassle. Nobody's going to to that over the sterilization of a cat. No judge is going to award any kind of judgment to the owner of a mixed-breed cat, either. Just being practical. Sherry >>>>> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these >>>>> two beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Sherry Hate to say this, but I saw just such a case on one of those daytime judge shows (small claims court). The plaintiff sued the defendent for having their dog neutered without express permission. The plaintiff won. So it can happen. But if these people have no problem with it, then I'd make sure I got it in writing just to be safe. Jill >Hate to say this, but I saw just such a case on one of those daytime judge >shows (small claims court). The plaintiff sued the defendent for having [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Jill Thank you so much Jill. I know where you're coming from, and I appreciate your posts to beware on this whole matter. Like I said before though, I'm more concerned with helping than I am concerned with having a lawsuit thrown at me. Prrrrrrrrt. -bonbon >>Hate to say this, but I saw just such a case on one of those daytime judge >>shows (small claims court). The plaintiff sued the defendent for having [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >before though, I'm more concerned with helping than I am concerned >with having a lawsuit thrown at me. Personally, I'd find out when the next low-cost speutering session is, and tell the cats owners that you'll take the felines there on the appropriate day to have it done. It's not like they want the little darlings to breed - they just can't be bothered doing the legwork themselves. >Personally, I'd find out when the next low-cost speutering session is, >and tell the cats owners that you'll take the felines there on the >appropriate day to have it done. It's not like they want the little >darlings to breed - they just can't be bothered doing the legwork >themselves. That's a wonderful idea Karen, problem is I don't have any wheels at this time. DH takes the car to work m-f. Until my truck gets fixed, my hands are tied. -bonbon >>>> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two >>>> beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jill Again, they would have to have proof that they owned the cats in order to bring forth a suit, and here in Houston that's copies of your vet bills showing where and when you vetted your animals - and it's pretty obvious the neighbors won't have those. I don't think any judge would even hear a case like this. Hugs, CatNipped >>>> That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two >>>> beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jill Ya know, Jill, it's really up to Bonbon. She's stated a lot to the fact that the family isn't against the neutering. My personal belief is that support and positive thinking goes a long way toward getting things solved. Can't, Won't, Don't.....try a positive spin on something for once. Negativity begats negativity. >> Again, you can't do that. They could sue the crap out of you. They could >> claim they were planning to breed them. How would they NOT notice the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >solved. Can't, Won't, Don't.....try a positive spin on something for >once. Negativity begats negativity. Thank you Karen. I will continue to try to educate the neighbors on how very very important it is to have the kitties altered before I step in. -bonbon > That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two > beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -(disgusted) bonbon Pfft. My all-time pet peeve. People who get "I can't afford" confused with "I don't want to afford" when it comes to pet care. Ugh. Sherry > That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two > beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -(disgusted) bonbon That's often the way. I turned down some potential owners for a puppy because the husband balked at the (reasonable) price, saying it would mean he would not be able to have a new car. I looked outside at their car parked there, it was only a few years old, 3 or so. It was the wife that seemed to want the puppy but I was very unhappy with his response. So they didn't get her because they didn't deserve her. I just said that "after assessing your situation, I don't think I have a puppy that would suit you, I'm sorry." She went on to get a fantastic home. The new slaves sent me a yearly letter on how wonderful she was and when she passed away sadly early at 12 from cancer, the letter I got to tell me the news nearly broke my heart at their distress. I cried. I still have it along with the photo they sent me of her final resting place. I keep it to remind me not to be cynical about occasionally breeding a litter. How else would such wonderful people have been able to get the dog they wanted and cherished all her life? I have no dogs now and I do miss that. Kitty FC would accept one for sure, but Boyfriend *definitely* wouldn't. He's nervous of his own shadow and every visitor. He will disappear immediately into the garden if the door bell rings and will return around 2 minutes after the visitor has left. I would love to have a dog or two again, but I know it would freak him out big time, so it's out of the question for 15 years. I would not even try to attempt it. I know that I would see him disappearing over the horizon never to be seen again. I would be devastated if I lost this lovely, beautiful, kind, gentle, shy cat for a selfish wish to have dogs again. I love him. I suspect he loves me, too, in his quiet way. Tweed Tweed > That these neighbors who 'can't afford' to spay and neuter these two > beautiful little cats have a brand new pick-up truck sitting in their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -(disgusted) bonbon This could be why they can't afford to take care of the cats. It's not their fault. Big car payment, you know. Annie, tongue in cheek I got a similar reply from a friend down the street,they had just gotten a Boxer pup last month,I was told they can't afford to "fix" him,well,that night I saw them at the store buying their 9 y.o couch potato,chubby spoiled ROTTEN (emphasis on rotten,he's rude) son one of those Wii things. Also ,this is about the 5th different dog they've had in a year,they get rid of them because they say they bite the boy,or scratch his face ( they've done the same thing with kitties !!!!!!!!! ) , well I found out why ! when he's at my house playing with my son,he gets in our little dog's face & starts wiggling her head & blowing on her face,talking to her. So far she has'nt done anything,she's VERY good natured. > The neighbors that live across the cul-de-sac from us have two teen > age kids. The parents are going through a divorce, so 'mom' lets each [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -bonbon > The neighbors that live across the cul-de-sac from us have two teen > age kids. The parents are going through a divorce, so 'mom' lets each [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -bonbon The Houston S.N.A.P. clinic charges some ridiculous fee like $15 for males and $25 for females (I think, they took down their web site so I can't check, but below is the info if you want to print it out and put it in their mailbox): Snap Surgery Clinic 1603 Shepherd Dr Houston, TX 77007 (713) 863-0010 |
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