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Susan M - 27 Jul 2007 17:12 GMT
At about 3:30 AM, I came back from feeding the baby to see Chester
sitting on the dresser looking out the window.  I went over to see him
*just* when the backyard motion light went on to reveal a stand-off.

On one side of my big wine-barrel planter was a skunk and the other was
a raccoon (not too common in these parts).  They deked each other out
for a while before the raccoon made his escape, with the skunk following
  closely, tail up and ready to go.  What made it pretty darn cute was
that IT WAS A BABY SKUNK!!!  Little fluffy plucky skunk racing around
with big poofy tail scaring the raccoon.

Presumably, even a cat such as Otis would be smart enough to avoid both
of them, even if they were on his turf.  Otis was safely tucked in bed
at the time, but I wonder...

Susan M
Otis and Chester
bonbon - 27 Jul 2007 17:17 GMT
>At about 3:30 AM, I came back from feeding the baby to see Chester
>sitting on the dresser looking out the window.  I went over to see him
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Susan M
>Otis and Chester

What a cute story.  That raccoon was smart to run away from (even) a
baby skunk.  I heard that the raccoons don't keep tomatoe juice on
hand.

-bonbon
Tanada - 27 Jul 2007 20:58 GMT
> What a cute story.  That raccoon was smart to run away from
> (even) a
> baby skunk.  I heard that the raccoons don't keep tomatoe juice
> on
> hand.

They don't?  What do they mix their beer with?

Pam S.
bonbon - 27 Jul 2007 21:30 GMT
>> What a cute story.  That raccoon was smart to run away from
>> (even) a
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>
>Pam S.

OMG......I guess with skunk scent?  YIKES!!!

Laughs

-bonbon
jmcquown - 27 Jul 2007 23:15 GMT
>> What a cute story.  That raccoon was smart to run away from
>> (even) a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Pam S.

Maybe they carry little bottles of vodka with them and scrounge around in
trash cans for tomato or V-8 juice.  Of course, then they'd have to hunt for
the dreaded Worcestershire and the much feared Tabasco.  Oh, and limes and a
celery stalk.  NOTE:  Celery does not "stalk" back. ;)

Jill
Susan M - 28 Jul 2007 04:13 GMT
> What a cute story.  That raccoon was smart to run away from (even) a
> baby skunk.  I heard that the raccoons don't keep tomatoe juice on
> hand.

We have a lot of skunks in the neighbourhood - one family had a mother
and *eight* babies living in their yard.  Our friends around the corner
had to bathe their white dog in tomato juice after a particularly run in
- he was pink afterwards ;-)  Their 3 year old called it a Stunk.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Tanada - 28 Jul 2007 17:42 GMT
> We have a lot of skunks in the neighbourhood - one family had a
> mother and *eight* babies living in their yard.  Our friends
> around the corner had to bathe their white dog in tomato juice
> after a particularly run in - he was pink afterwards ;-)  Their
> 3 year old called it a Stunk.

LOL, a stunk.  That was one smart little hoomin.

Pam S.
bonbon - 28 Jul 2007 23:29 GMT
>> What a cute story.  That raccoon was smart to run away from (even) a
>> baby skunk.  I heard that the raccoons don't keep tomatoe juice on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Susan M
>Otis and Chester

Laughs!  I have a three year old grandson.  I can totally relate.
Thanks for the grin Susan M

-bonbon
polonca12000 - 31 Jul 2007 21:51 GMT
>> What a cute story.  That raccoon was smart to run away from (even) a
>> baby skunk.  I heard that the raccoons don't keep tomatoe juice on
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

A Stunk! How cute!
Best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
Will in New Haven - 27 Jul 2007 19:06 GMT
> At about 3:30 AM, I came back from feeding the baby to see Chester
> sitting on the dresser looking out the window.  I went over to see him
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> of them, even if they were on his turf.  Otis was safely tucked in bed
> at the time, but I wonder...

My friend Bruce, whose little barn cat (rb) chased a big raccoon off
the catfood on the porch one time, said that the cats usually
interacted peacefully with both species. The little tomcat apparently
just wanted to eat first as he ignored the raccoon when it came back
after he had eaten and it resumed eating. Cats would eat peacefully
beside skunks. Their d*g (rb) Conrad would run to the door and try to
get out to chase a raccoon away. He was big enough that no raccoon
would stand up to him. However, he seemed to ignore skunks on the
porch. And he ignored raccoons if skunks were out there too. Not all
d*gs fear the skunk weapon but Conrad was not going to mess with it.

Will in New Haven

--

> Susan M
> Otis and Chester
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 27 Jul 2007 20:03 GMT
>>At about 3:30 AM, I came back from feeding the baby to see Chester
>>sitting on the dresser looking out the window.  I went over to see him
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> porch. And he ignored raccoons if skunks were out there too. Not all
> d*gs fear the skunk weapon but Conrad was not going to mess with it.

Not all dogs are smart enough to realize that there are
other defensive weapons than teeth and claws! ;-) (They may
be more cautious if they've had previous expreience with
skinks, but some of them only learn by repetiton.)
Susan M - 28 Jul 2007 04:18 GMT
> My friend Bruce, whose little barn cat (rb) chased a big raccoon off
> the catfood on the porch one time, said that the cats usually
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> porch. And he ignored raccoons if skunks were out there too. Not all
> d*gs fear the skunk weapon but Conrad was not going to mess with it.

Raccoons are new to me - like I said, we don't get many - but I thought
that you had to be concerned with rabies with them.  My mom has been
telling me that they're viscious!

Susan M
Otis and Chester
jofirey - 28 Jul 2007 04:55 GMT
>> My friend Bruce, whose little barn cat (rb) chased a big raccoon off
>> the catfood on the porch one time, said that the cats usually
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> that you had to be concerned with rabies with them.  My mom has been
> telling me that they're viscious!

Young raccoons can be cute to watch to someone who isn't terribly used to
seeing them.  Large adult raccoons sometimes aren't quite so charming.

So you get quite a divide between those who think they are adorable and
those who think they are a sometimes vicious nuisance.

I think they're cute, but I've never lived where I had to deal with the
damage they can cause either.

Jo
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 28 Jul 2007 20:13 GMT
>> My friend Bruce, whose little barn cat (rb) chased a big raccoon off
>> the catfood on the porch one time, said that the cats usually
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> that you had to be concerned with rabies with them.  My mom has been
> telling me that they're viscious!

I think the rabies threat depends upon where you live.  Of
course, rabid animals are always vicious (I think), but many
people make pets out of raccoons, so I don't think they are,
particularly.  (Just hard to keep out of any place they
decide they want into - they do have hands, after all.) :-)
bonbon - 28 Jul 2007 23:35 GMT
>I think the rabies threat depends upon where you live.  Of
>course, rabid animals are always vicious (I think), but many
>people make pets out of raccoons, so I don't think they are,
>particularly.  (Just hard to keep out of any place they
>decide they want into - they do have hands, after all.) :-)

My next door neighbor, Dawn was once bitten on her toe by a skunk.  It
was late at night and apparently the skunk was causing some sort of
disturbance in their back yard.  Luckily her daughters boyfriend was
over visiting, and was able to get the skunk to let go of Dawn's toe
by waving a yard rake in it's direction.  They captured the skunk and
took it in to be checked out.  Turns out it had rabies, so Dawn had to
go through the whole series of shots thing.  Meowch!  Good thing they
captured the skunk.

-bonbon
jmcquown - 29 Jul 2007 22:06 GMT
>>> My friend Bruce, whose little barn cat (rb) chased a big raccoon off
>>> the catfood on the porch one time, said that the cats usually
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> particularly.  (Just hard to keep out of any place they
> decide they want into - they do have hands, after all.) :-)

For a while I had a raccoon getting into my garbage can.  (And yes, they
have opposable thumbs so they can open just about anything.  Don't give them
a key to your house, they'll figure out how to use it ;) )  Thank goodness I
don't have a cat-flap.  The racoon finally figure out there wasn't anything
of interest in my trash can and moved along.  Squirrels are a different
matter.  One (I caught him, flattening himself to fit under the door just
like a mouse!) broke into my storage room off the patio and ate all the bird
seed, even that I had put into large sealed bins.  If anyone ever perfects
bite-mark odontology of squirrels I'm pretty sure I can pick out which one
from a line-up!

Jill
Sherry - 30 Jul 2007 00:00 GMT
> >>> My friend Bruce, whose little barn cat (rb) chased a big raccoon off
> >>> the catfood on the porch one time, said that the cats usually
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Jill-

They don't have opposable thumbs, but their paw prints look amazingly
like a human hand.
If they did, we *would* be in trouble...they are smart little
critters.

Sherry
Victor Martinez - 27 Jul 2007 19:13 GMT
> that IT WAS A BABY SKUNK!!!  Little fluffy plucky skunk racing around
> with big poofy tail scaring the raccoon.

Awwww.... heheheh.... I wonder if the raccoon knew to avoid him from
previous experiences... :)

> Presumably, even a cat such as Otis would be smart enough to avoid both
> of them, even if they were on his turf.  Otis was safely tucked in bed
> at the time, but I wonder...

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Susan M - 28 Jul 2007 04:19 GMT
>> that IT WAS A BABY SKUNK!!!  Little fluffy plucky skunk racing around
>> with big poofy tail scaring the raccoon.
>
> Awwww.... heheheh.... I wonder if the raccoon knew to avoid him from
> previous experiences... :)

I don't know - he might even have been a young raccoon too.  I thought
it was neat how the little skunk knew just what to do.  Good instincts!

>> Presumably, even a cat such as Otis would be smart enough to avoid
>> both of them, even if they were on his turf.  Otis was safely tucked
>> in bed at the time, but I wonder...
>
> http://www.twolumps.net/d/20070625.html

Oh - I can just see Otis ;-)

Susan M
Otis and Chester
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 28 Jul 2007 05:51 GMT
Victor Martinez wrote:

> http://www.twolumps.net/d/20070625.html

Ha ha, I love that one. "I don't have time to talk to your imaginary
friends right now."

Joyce
Christina Websell - 27 Jul 2007 22:05 GMT
> At about 3:30 AM, I came back from feeding the baby to see Chester sitting
> on the dresser looking out the window.  I went over to see him *just* when
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> them, even if they were on his turf.  Otis was safely tucked in bed at the
> time, but I wonder...

I enjoyed reading this Susan, thanks for posting it.

Tweed  <---likes wildlife tales
Susan M - 28 Jul 2007 04:19 GMT
> I enjoyed reading this Susan, thanks for posting it.
>
> Tweed  <---likes wildlife tales

Thanks Christina!

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Normin - 27 Jul 2007 22:29 GMT
> At about 3:30 AM, I came back from feeding the baby to see
> Chester sitting on the dresser looking out the window.  I went
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

well our dog was never that smart, she'd take off barking at the
visiting skunks every time!

Sara
(holding nose at the memory)
jmcquown - 27 Jul 2007 23:27 GMT
> darn cute was that IT WAS A BABY SKUNK!!!  Little fluffy plucky skunk
> racing around with big poofy tail scaring the raccoon.
>
> Presumably, even a cat such as Otis would be smart enough to avoid
> both of them, even if they were on his turf.  Otis was safely tucked
> in bed at the time, but I wonder...

I saw an animal segment on The Tonight Show, I think it was last Monday
night.  (I love it when they bring animals on!)  They brought on some young
skunks.  They are absolutely gorgeous animals.  But what she said was skunks
will only use spraying as a last resort.  They sort of hiss and assume
threatening postures first.  So if you see this, just back off.  As long as
they don't feel really threatened, they won't spray.

Skunks are put off by the smell of mothballs so you can place some tied up
in old socks around your perimeter feeding area to discourage the skunks.

Jill
Susan M - 28 Jul 2007 04:19 GMT
> I saw an animal segment on The Tonight Show, I think it was last Monday
> night.  (I love it when they bring animals on!)  They brought on some young
> skunks.  They are absolutely gorgeous animals.  But what she said was skunks
> will only use spraying as a last resort.  They sort of hiss and assume
> threatening postures first.  So if you see this, just back off.  As long as
> they don't feel really threatened, they won't spray.

We saw baby skunks at the zoo once and they are really adorable.  A big
one triggered my motion light one night after our new cleaning lady left
a big bag of garbage outside in the backyard, which we didn't expect.
He was calmly eating an old sandwich but what struck me was the stunning
glossy fur he had.  He looked *magnificent* and *big*.

> Skunks are put off by the smell of mothballs so you can place some tied up
> in old socks around your perimeter feeding area to discourage the skunks.

I think this little one might be living under my front porch.  I think
I'll let him stay for now.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
jmcquown - 28 Jul 2007 22:36 GMT
>> I saw an animal segment on The Tonight Show, I think it was last
>> Monday night.  (I love it when they bring animals on!)  They brought
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

As long as he/she does no harm to you nor you to him/her, why not?  Would be
fun to watch :)

Jill
Susan M - 29 Jul 2007 04:42 GMT
>> I think this little one might be living under my front porch.  I think
>> I'll let him stay for now.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> As long as he/she does no harm to you nor you to him/her, why not?  Would be
> fun to watch :)

It's ok for now.  The neighbours with the mom & 8 babies were a little
disgruntled.  They asked the city to trap them but a trap was $150 each
- about $1,000 to move them all.  Not sure how you do that safely and
keep them all together anyway.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
jmcquown - 29 Jul 2007 10:47 GMT
>>> I think this little one might be living under my front porch.  I
>>> think I'll let him stay for now.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

Well if not, use the mothball trick to get the skunk to move along :)

Where I used to work there was a copse of woods across from our parking lot
and a mama red fox and her two kits used to parade around in the grass
there.  We all got a thrill out of it... except for a few people who were
"scared" of the foxes.  (These same people own pit bulls and rottweilers and
they aren't exactly "family pets".)  Who's afraid of some little red foxes?!
I'd arranged for a friend who does wildlife rehabbing to come trap and
relocate the foxes out in the country.  But in the meantime these people
complained to the building manager about being afraid of the foxes.  They
sent someone out to trap them.  I can only hope they rehomed them, rather
than killed them.  Lord only knows who they called to take those pretty
dog-but-cat-like animals away.

Jill
Takayuki - 29 Jul 2007 14:04 GMT
>Where I used to work there was a copse of woods across from our parking lot
>and a mama red fox and her two kits used to parade around in the grass
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>than killed them.  Lord only knows who they called to take those pretty
>dog-but-cat-like animals away.

Did you know that foxes like trampolines? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdPI50E0Zdo
Tanada - 29 Jul 2007 20:34 GMT
> Did you know that foxes like trampolines? :)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdPI50E0Zdo

That makes me almost want to get a trampoline.  ;-)

Pam S.
jmcquown - 30 Jul 2007 00:13 GMT
>> Where I used to work there was a copse of woods across from our
>> parking lot and a mama red fox and her two kits used to parade
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdPI50E0Zdo

Gee, who doesn't like a trampoline?!  <G>

Jill
Takayuki - 28 Jul 2007 04:24 GMT
>At about 3:30 AM, I came back from feeding the baby to see Chester
>sitting on the dresser looking out the window.  I went over to see him
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>of them, even if they were on his turf.  Otis was safely tucked in bed
>at the time, but I wonder...

That's so cute!  I can picture it being like the baby skunks I've seen
on Cute Overload:

Skunklets and kiddies:
http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2006/09/this_cannot_be_.html

Skunklet and kitties:
http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2007/02/he_only_has_a_v.html
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 28 Jul 2007 05:45 GMT
> That's so cute!  I can picture it being like the baby skunks I've seen
> on Cute Overload:

> Skunklets and kiddies:
> http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2006/09/this_cannot_be_.html

> Skunklet and kitties:
> http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/2007/02/he_only_has_a_v.html

These were both great pictures! I've seen the one with the little
girls before (and I love the caption: "Daddy, look at all the kitties!"
LOL). I hadn't seen the second one before, though. Susan is right,
skunk fur is very glossy.

Joyce
Sherry - 28 Jul 2007 05:33 GMT
> At about 3:30 AM, I came back from feeding the baby to see Chester
> sitting on the dresser looking out the window.  I went over to see him
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

One of the cutest things I ever saw was a mama skunk walking across
the road with her babies following.
Something about them, they even remind you of cats. I've learned
something about them--they are
slow to anger, and they're so confident in their ability to defend
themselves, it takes a lot of aggravation
for them to spray. A couple of years ago I caught Bootsie doing her
little superiority dance all around
one in the backyard. The skunk just kind of ignored her.

Sherry
Victor Martinez - 28 Jul 2007 14:07 GMT
> something about them--they are
> slow to anger, and they're so confident in their ability to defend
> themselves, it takes a lot of aggravation
> for them to spray. A couple of years ago I caught Bootsie doing her

They are very cute. My only close encounter with one happened years ago
when we were trying to relocate a family of raccoons that had decided to
use our pond as an all-you-can-eat sushi bar. We bought a have-a-heart
trap and set it up. We caught a skunk. Twice. Nobody got sprayed and he
(or she) was liberated as soon as we got up. :)

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