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CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 00:13 GMT
I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
this *SO* much sooner!

I saw that Sammy had thrown up a prodigious amount in the garage when I woke
up this morning.  As has been said in other posts, Sammy has been living
under my bed for almost 5 weeks now.  When I tried getting her out from
under the bed (by moving it!!) I saw that not only had she thrown up in a
number of other spots, but there was liquid feces spotted about on the
carpet.  I thought it might be a combination of impacted anal glands (which
she's had once before) and hairballs since she has been shedding so much
lately.

We just got back from the vet and it's not impacted anal glands, she has
diarrhea.  Her coat is dull and hair is just falling off in clumps, she had
lost .5* pounds from only 15 days ago (the last time she saw the vet), she's
a bit dehydrated, and she is running a temperature of 102.4F!  The vet took
a fecal sample (and shaved her butt to remove all the feces) and didn't see
anything.  She said all of those symptoms could be caused by stress.

I can't believe that I did not catch this sooner!

*This is *WAY* too much weight for a cat to lose in such a short time.

Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
neglectful mommy!

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Hugs,

CatNipped

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Baha - 26 Jul 2007 00:15 GMT
Get-well-quick purrs for Sammy on the way. And for her Mama too, to stop
kicking her own butt and just be there to love and help heal her little baby.

Blessed be,
Baha

>I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
>this *SO* much sooner!
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>Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
>neglectful mommy!
Irulan - 26 Jul 2007 00:49 GMT
aw, poor Sammy. Hope the diarrhea clears up soon now
that the stress is gone. Purrs and prayers from us coming
her way.

Lily & her mama

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> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!
Joy - 26 Jul 2007 01:01 GMT
Purrs for Sammy, and for you.  You've beat yourself up enough.

BTW, 102.4 isn't *that* high a fever for a cat.  I think their normal is
101.5, IIRC.  It's still of concern, but not as much as that temp would be
in a human.

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> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!
Will in New Haven - 26 Jul 2007 01:05 GMT
> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
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>
> CatNipped

I think she will be ok and everyone here is purring for her. It all
sounds like stress and your TED will probably have some good advice
for her care.

Will in New Haven

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It's gettin kinda long I coulda said it was in my way
But I didn't and I wonder why I feel like letting my freak flag fly
Cause I feel like I owe it to someone." "Almost Cut my Hair" by
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young

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Victor Martinez - 26 Jul 2007 01:28 GMT
> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!

Lots of purrs on the way. But if she hasn't been eating well in the past
5 weeks, 1/2 lb is not too much weight to lose.

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Ann - 26 Jul 2007 01:44 GMT
Purrs on the way.
Ann

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> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 02:50 GMT
Well, like with Bandit, I can tell Sammy's feeling better - she bit me and
made me bleed!  ;>  If nothing else, getting all that dried feces off her
butt has got to have made her feel somewhat better (we all know how
fastidious cats are and it was *WAY* too much for her to clean off herself).

As an added security blanket, I brought in a litterbox from the garage and
closed my bedroom door - that leave a door, stairs, great room, a hall, and
another closed door between her and Tayla - so she's out from under the bed
now.

Thank you so much, and please keep any spare purrs coming our way.

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Hugs,

CatNipped

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> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!
Winnie - 26 Jul 2007 14:35 GMT
> Thank you so much, and please keep any spare purrs coming our way.

Rusty is sending purrs down south for Sammy to feel better soon.

Winnie
Lucy's Mom - 27 Jul 2007 02:25 GMT
Purrs are already on the short trip south...

>Well, like with Bandit, I can tell Sammy's feeling better - she bit me and
>made me bleed!  ;>  If nothing else, getting all that dried feces off her
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>
>Thank you so much, and please keep any spare purrs coming our way.

-- Eric, Kim and the Chigger Ranch Crew
Karen AKA Kajikit - 26 Jul 2007 03:19 GMT
>I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
>this *SO* much sooner!
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>Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
>neglectful mommy!

Many purrs for poor Sammy to realise that she's safe now and to feel
better... if anything, this confirms that you made the right choice to
give Tayla back to the shelter - you weren't just imagining that Sammy
was stressing out, she was getting physically ill from it. :(
jmcquown - 26 Jul 2007 04:06 GMT
> I saw that Sammy had thrown up a prodigious amount in the garage
> We just got back from the vet and it's not impacted anal glands, she
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a
> horrible, neglectful mommy!

Purrs on the way for Sammy and for your nerves.  Don't beat yourself up.
Sammy's been hiding from you so how were you to know?

Jill
annoyed@net.spammers - 26 Jul 2007 05:18 GMT
>Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
>neglectful mommy!

Purrs from NY coming your way.
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Rhonda - 26 Jul 2007 06:46 GMT
She could very well have been hiding under the bed because she is sick.
Hiding is the first thing most of our cats have done with a medical
problems.

101-102 is normal for a cat. Our cat with pancreatitus would get temps
of 104 with his flare-ups.

I hope she's feeling better.

Rhonda

> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!
Exocat - 26 Jul 2007 09:51 GMT
> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!

Massive purrs for the big girl to get better pdq (if not sooner) and forgive
her Hoomin Mom for such bad teatment.

Better not to beat yourself up over doing what you hoped was a good thing,
CN, or you'll end up with worse medical troubles than Sammy. I feel equally
bad about not catching Snowball's loose teeth in time, as well as Bandit's
need for an eye op, but it's done & over & one must look to the future & try
to do better.

Purrs
Gordon & the FF
Adrian A - 26 Jul 2007 12:51 GMT
> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have
> caught this *SO* much sooner!
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a
> horrible, neglectful mommy!

Mega purrs on the way for Sammy.
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bonbon - 26 Jul 2007 14:24 GMT
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:13:55 -0500, "CatNipped"

Major purrs for Sammy, and major purrs for you also my friend.

Don't be too hard on yourself......cat's are famous for not letting us
know something is ailing them until they get really sick.  I'm sure
the vet will know exactly what to prescribe for our Sammy, and in the
meantime, I'll be saying prayers for her full and speedy recovery.

-bonbon
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 14:42 GMT
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:13:55 -0500, "CatNipped"
>
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>
> -bonbon

What the vet prescribed was to remove Tayla from the mix - but she obviously
doesn't know as much as some of the posters here do!

Damn, sorry for being snarky, Bonbon - I'm feeling totally rotten that
Tayla's adoption didn't work out, Ben and I are not speaking at the moment
because of it, and I'm the target of potshots here from people whom I
thought were my friends and would be understanding.

Anyway, email me - I have lots to catch you up on.  Did you know Bandit left
for the Bridge on June 4th of this year?

Hugs,

CatNipped
bonbon - 26 Jul 2007 14:53 GMT
>What the vet prescribed was to remove Tayla from the mix - but she obviously
>doesn't know as much as some of the posters here do!
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>
>CatNipped

I'm sorry to hear about Bandit, I wasn't aware.  Take comfort that
your beloved pootie is in a fine place again.

I've been out of the r.p.c.a. swing for so long, I wasn't even aware
of this Tayla character.  Bless your heart for trying.....but if a new
comer disrupts the existing pootie palace to that point, I don't see
that you had any other choice.

I'll email you my phone number promptly.  Our address is the same.

Love,

-bonbon
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 26 Jul 2007 17:05 GMT
> > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:13:55 -0500, "CatNipped"
>
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>
> CatNipped

CatNipped,

I've been reading and having the 'Magnificent Seven' sending out purrs
for your household since June 4th.  Even the pup has been sending her
'special grunts'.

I know exactly how you feel with Tayla, and all I can say about some
people's children is ... well ... that (I don't know about some
people's children).  Don't let it get you down.  It's hard, some
people will never understand, and that's that.  Friends will come
around, if they don't, then it's a hard lesson learned, but it has
been learned, yeah?

I sincerely hope that the 'kids' are alright, I hope that you and DH
mend your bridges (I'm sure you will, but it's painful right now).  I
hope you do not make *yourself* ill (remember FMS adores stress, and
it will feed and feed and feed).

What I don't get, how can anyone watching you beat yourself up think
they could do any more damage to your emotions than you have?

Be well, CatNipped.

Smokie Darling (Annie)
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 17:45 GMT
>> > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:13:55 -0500, "CatNipped"
>>
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>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)

OK, I'm at my desk and I'm BAWLING!  Thank you, Annie, thank you so much for
your kind words and support - I was beginning to feel *REALLY* lonely out
here all by myself.  [Ben just tried calling me on my cell, but I didn't
answer - right now I just don't know if I can forgive him for the hurtful
things he said last night (he has this habit of *refusing* to make any
decisions and every single time something has to be decided I have to do
it - that way he can sit back later and blame me for anything that goes
wrong since it was all *my* decision).]

Anyway, thanks again, I really appreciate your caring!

Hugs,

CatNipped
bonbon - 26 Jul 2007 19:41 GMT
>> What I don't get, how can anyone watching you beat yourself up think
>> they could do any more damage to your emotions than you have?
>>
>> Be well, CatNipped.
>>
>> Smokie Darling (Annie)

>[Ben just tried calling me on my cell, but I didn't
>answer - right now I just don't know if I can forgive him for the hurtful
>things he said last night (he has this habit of *refusing* to make any
>decisions and every single time something has to be decided I have to do
>it - that way he can sit back later and blame me for anything that goes
>wrong since it was all *my* decision).]

Girl, that is soooo typical of the dude gender.  I thought I was the
only one who suffered from that exact kind of b.s.  Don't worry,
you'll work it out , because you guy's are in love.  Now dry your
tears, it's a beautiful day.

-bonbon
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 19:50 GMT
>>> What I don't get, how can anyone watching you beat yourself up think
>>> they could do any more damage to your emotions than you have?
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>
> -bonbon

Yeah, I just have to stick it out to get to the point where I'm beyond
hurting and in the seeking revenge stage!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
bonbon - 26 Jul 2007 20:06 GMT
>> Girl, that is soooo typical of the dude gender.  I thought I was the
>> only one who suffered from that exact kind of b.s.  Don't worry,
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>Yeah, I just have to stick it out to get to the point where I'm beyond
>hurting and in the seeking revenge stage!  ;>

At A Girl, you naughty nu-nu.  Laughs!

-bonbon
bobblespin - 26 Jul 2007 21:56 GMT
>>[Ben just tried calling me on my cell, but I didn't
>>answer - right now I just don't know if I can forgive him for the
>>hurtful things he said last night (he has this habit of *refusing* to
>>make any decisions and every single time something has to be decided I
>>have to do it - that way he can sit back later and blame me for
>>anything that goes wrong since it was all *my* decision).]

So typical and just like my DH.  Then, his usual comment after something
goes wrong (and I of course get blamed) is:  "I could have told you that".  
I feel like screaming "why didn't you?".  Anyway my solution to staying
married and sane is: tune him out!

Bobble
CatNipped - 27 Jul 2007 01:38 GMT
>>>[Ben just tried calling me on my cell, but I didn't
>>>answer - right now I just don't know if I can forgive him for the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I feel like screaming "why didn't you?".  Anyway my solution to staying
> married and sane is: tune him out!

LOL!  I'm too cantankerous to tune him out!

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Bobble
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 27 Jul 2007 00:29 GMT
> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>snipped<<<<
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>
> CatNipped

CatNipped,

It was not my intent to bring you tears, I'm sure you've had enough of
those.

Just know that while sometimes people disagree, it doesn't mean they
don't care.  Just because someone doesn't always post, it doesn't mean
they don't read and think of everyone with fondness (well, most
everyone anyway).

<sarcasm mode on>
Well of *course* it's all your fault.  Whose else would it be?  HIS?
<sarcasm mode off>

Okay, on a more serious note, it is human nature to seek a "scapegoat"
for whatever problem has arisen.
We blame our politicians (all of 'em) for being crooks, yet still we
re-elect them.
We blame whatever higher power we believe in for flooding our homes,
yet we still beg (Him/Her/It) for things we couldn't or shouldn't
have.
We rail against losing a beloved furry companion, we promise we will
never get another, and then we do (just setting up that cycle all over
again).
Everyone needs someone to "blame", whether the blame belongs there or
not.  It canNOT be *my* fault after all (lol).  I'm as bad as the next
person about this (or I over do it, and I take all the blame for
something I had no control over).

In our own ways, we all care.  Sometimes more than anyone knows.

Smokie Darling (Annie)
CatNipped - 27 Jul 2007 01:36 GMT
>> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>snipped<<<<
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>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)

Annie, how did you get so wise in your few short years?!!  I know dealing
with FMS takes a lot of courage and you certainly have that (can I borrow
some??)!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 27 Jul 2007 03:17 GMT
> "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>
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>
> CatNipped

CatNipped,

Of course you can.  Take whatever you need.  You may keep it if you
like.  I'll get more (lol), at least one hopes I will.

Thank you for the compliment, but I'm not all that young (let's say 29
with 15 years of experience).  Being the youngest of 6, watching my
mom and the oldest (she wasn't really my sister, she was my cousin,
but she lived with us until I was 9) "sister/cousin" each die of
horrible diseases, I learned the value of others' insight, and have
taken alot from most people here.

SD (Annie)
jofirey - 27 Jul 2007 01:05 GMT
> OK, I'm at my desk and I'm BAWLING!  Thank you, Annie, thank you so much
> for your kind words and support - I was beginning to feel *REALLY* lonely
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> do it - that way he can sit back later and blame me for anything that goes
> wrong since it was all *my* decision).]

Argh.  Charlie does that and it makes me crazy.  Though he doesn't actually
blame me later.  Just makes me feel guilty in advance.  He is at his worst
when the dogs or cats are concerned.

Jo
CatNipped - 27 Jul 2007 01:38 GMT
>> OK, I'm at my desk and I'm BAWLING!  Thank you, Annie, thank you so much
>> for your kind words and support - I was beginning to feel *REALLY* lonely
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Jo

Gosh, I really thought Ben was alone in doing this - I thought most men
*liked and insisted* on making the decisions.  Just goes to show we're not
as "special" as we'd like to think!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
jofirey - 27 Jul 2007 04:43 GMT
>>> OK, I'm at my desk and I'm BAWLING!  Thank you, Annie, thank you so much
>>> for your kind words and support - I was beginning to feel *REALLY*
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> *liked and insisted* on making the decisions.  Just goes to show we're not
> as "special" as we'd like to think!  ;>

The men who like and insist on making the decisions don't marry women they
can guilt into doing it for them.

Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 27 Jul 2007 04:56 GMT
> "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote in message

>> Gosh, I really thought Ben was alone in doing this - I thought most men
>> *liked and insisted* on making the decisions.  Just goes to show we're not
>> as "special" as we'd like to think!  ;>

> The men who like and insist on making the decisions don't marry women they
> can guilt into doing it for them.

And having a husband who insists on making all the decisions can't be
any picnic, either. What's wrong with *mutual* decisions??

Joyce
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 26 Jul 2007 22:10 GMT
> I'm feeling totally rotten that Tayla's adoption didn't work out,
> Ben and I are not speaking at the moment because of it

Had he gotten attached to Tayla?

Joyce
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 22:16 GMT
> > I'm feeling totally rotten that Tayla's adoption didn't work out,
> > Ben and I are not speaking at the moment because of it
>
> Had he gotten attached to Tayla?
>
> Joyce

Yes, we both did - she would be hard *not* to get attached to.  But even
though he knows this has to be done (and said so) he's acting like I'm the
queen bitch of the universe for doing it.  Like I don't feel bad enough!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Christina Websell - 26 Jul 2007 18:00 GMT
> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!

Purrs coming up for Sammy.  Maybe she caught something from the babies or
Tayla.  Shelters are full of disease.  I adopted a dog once from a shelter,
and didn't she just go down with kennel cough which would not resolve, nasal
problems, enlarged lymph glands for months, you name it, she had it  2-3
weeks after I got her.
This was the first time I said to my vet "why don't I just pay my salary
check into your account?"
Having said this, I would like to think you will give Tayla a chance for
much longer. I wonder if you have rushed things a bit perhaps.
I tend to think Sammy hiding was because she was ill, not because of Tayla.

Tweed
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 18:29 GMT
On Jul 26, 12:00 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> > I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> > this *SO* much sooner!
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Five weeks is too long for it to be something caught from the new
adoptees, three weeks is about the longest incubation for any
transmissable diseases.  The vet thinks it is stress induced and
agrees the best option is to re-home Tayla (we talked about this for
almost an hour last night).

I don't know how to make people here understand this - this is not the
"normal" interplay of cat introduction.  I've introduced cats lots of
times in my 55 years - there is most always some posturing, hissing,
even swatting.  But Tayla is going beyond this.  The aggression she
shows is *relentless* - she does't even stop to rest, she goes from
one cat to the next and chases them down, growling and trying to
bite.

The adult cats can defend themselves (but in Sammy's case make herself
ill with stress), but the kittens can't.  "Normal" cat behavior is to
stop aggression when an opponent "gives".  The kittens will instantly
fall over on their sides and go limp as soon as an adult cat hisses at
them.  They did this the first two days of being alone with my
resident three when one of the adults would hiss or give them a no-
claw swat on top of the head - the adult would then just walk away
until the next time a kitten tried to bite her tail. After two days
they don't even hiss at the kittens anymore, they just seem very
amused by the antics (in fact Sammy allows them to snuggle with her
under my bed - I think they picked the biggest cat to make friends
with as a protector against Tayla, not knowing what a wuss Sammy is).

However, Tayla *DOES* *NOT* *STOP* - she continues to bite and claw
and growl at the kittens even after they fall over and go limp.  Ben
or I have to physically intervene and she'll walk away for a second
and then turn around and start the attack again.  I don't care *what*
anybody here says, that is *not* normal cat behavior!  This is *not*
just establishing herself in any pecking order since kittens are
*automatically* on the bottom of *ANY* pecking order and all adult
cats *know* this!

Tayla had three weeks of complete isolation from everyone, then we
tried putting the kittens in with her, but had to take them away
because of the above-described behavior.  At that time we put the
kittens in with the other cats and everything went well.

Tayla then had one week of having a screen between her and the
resident cats and she sat at the screen and cried.

She then had one week of us allowing her out under supervision and as
soon as she ran around and emptied everyone's dishes she would start
in on the attacks.  At first it was as I described in other posts -
about normal posturing and pecking order, but instead of things
getting better with time, they go worse.  As soon as she started
feeling more confident being out she stepped up her aggressions and,
when the adult cats hid beyond her reach (and turned an fought when
they were cornered), she would start taking her aggression out on the
kittens.

Five weeks of this is all any of us (especially Sammy) can take.  It's
easy to sit a thousand miles away and kibbitz about what I should or
shouldn't do - it's another to have to live in this stress-filled
environment!

I don't know what's so difficult to understand about the concept that
some cats are just meant to be "only cats" - it's an accepted and well
understood concept for most people.  Not every cat is meant to be part
of a clowder, just like humans have their own personalities, likes and
dislikes, and some mental or emotional abnormalities, so do cats!

Hugs,

CatNipped
bonbon - 26 Jul 2007 18:54 GMT
I fully understand where you're coming from Catnipped.  

About two years ago, while still living here in Houston, some jerk
moved away from the hood and left this magnificent black and white
tuxedo cat behind (yes Sherry R., we love the tuxedo's too).  He was
skinny and his collar was way too tight.  I coaxed him into the garage
one day (ignoring DH's protests) and cut the collar away.  Turns out
he was a really nice pootie that just needed somewhere to 'hang his
hat'.  Problem was that he was insistant on beating up our resident
cats.  I had no idea who's cat he was (I called him Ronald The
Magnificent) but decided maybe the solution was to get him snipped.
So I took him into our vet, had the nards lopped off, got him all of
his shots, etc., in hopes that he would settle his little a** down.
Didn't work.  I was a little freaked out about just WTF to do with him
when it came time to pull up the stakes and move to Nevada.  

We only had a limited amount of space in our oversized U-Haul truck,
so as we were giving a bunch of my furniture and gardening implements
away to the neighbors, I decided to ask Victor across the cul-de-sac
if he was interested in adopting a cat.  It was a go, and now that
we're back in the same house after a year and a half of sweltering in
the desert, I'm happy to report that Ronald The Magnificent is still
residing at Victor's, is absolutely enormous, but still comes over
occasionally to hiss at me and my pooties (when they're outside).

-bonbon
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 19:10 GMT
>I fully understand where you're coming from Catnipped.
>
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>
> -bonbon

Yep, I really think there are some cats who just can't fit into society,
just like there are some people who just can't fit into society.  There
might be some experts out there who are so knowledgeable about cat behavior,
so patient, or so saintly that they could integrate even an anti-social cat,
but unfortunately I'm not one of them!

Hugs,

CatNipped
bonbon - 26 Jul 2007 19:30 GMT
>Yep, I really think there are some cats who just can't fit into society,
>just like there are some people who just can't fit into society.  There
>might be some experts out there who are so knowledgeable about cat behavior,
>so patient, or so saintly that they could integrate even an anti-social cat,
>but unfortunately I'm not one of them!

Nor am I girl.

I feel that I rescued Ronald from a sure eventual death from a car,
coyotes, or owls, and he still hisses at me.  Of course that could be
chalked up to the fact that I've turned him into a total 'nip' slut
and he swaggers over every day for a dose.  I guess I'll just buy a
mega sized bag of the stuff and give it to Victor to administer to
that bad a** tuxedo as he see's fit.  What ever it takes to keep him
away from beating up my pooties.

-bonbon

>Hugs,
>
>CatNipped
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 19:38 GMT
>>Yep, I really think there are some cats who just can't fit into society,
>>just like there are some people who just can't fit into society.  There
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> that bad a** tuxedo as he see's fit.  What ever it takes to keep him
> away from beating up my pooties.

LOL!  Oh my, Bonbon, bribing and suborning a cat!

How's the unpacking coming?  Are the fur-kids remembering their old home or
are they freaking?

Hugs,

CatNipped

> -bonbon
>>
>>Hugs,
>>
>>CatNipped
bonbon - 26 Jul 2007 20:38 GMT
>LOL!  Oh my, Bonbon, bribing and suborning a cat!
>
>How's the unpacking coming?  Are the fur-kids remembering their old home or
>are they freaking?

The unpacking really isn't getting done.  To quote Daphne from the
'Frazier' sit com......."I Don't Know Why"

Yes, the babies remember the ol' stomping grounds, and are mega happy
to be able to explore the outdoors again.  They only get to go out at
certain times of the day, and only under strict supervision.  They're
less than happy about us fussing over them while they're pretending to
be lions and tigers while out there, but we feel much calmer about the
whole situation as we hover over them.

-bonbon
>Hugs,
>
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>>>
>>>CatNipped
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 20:46 GMT
>>LOL!  Oh my, Bonbon, bribing and suborning a cat!
>>
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> The unpacking really isn't getting done.  To quote Daphne from the
> 'Frazier' sit com......."I Don't Know Why"

LOL!  As long as you know which box holds what, you're copasetic!  ;>

> Yes, the babies remember the ol' stomping grounds, and are mega happy

Kewl!  I always wonder how long cats remember people and places.

> to be able to explore the outdoors again.  They only get to go out at
> certain times of the day, and only under strict supervision.  They're

I remember you had a problem with owls and snakes where you are (we have
hawks, falcons, *large* raccoons, snakes, and we once even say a coyote just
a few block away!).

Hugs,

CatNipped

> less than happy about us fussing over them while they're pretending to
> be lions and tigers while out there, but we feel much calmer about the
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>>>>
>>>>CatNipped
bchan - 26 Jul 2007 20:24 GMT
>>I fully understand where you're coming from Catnipped.
>>
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>
>CatNipped

I've been a lurker here for quite some time (and have eleven cats).
I've been following your descriptions of your ordeal and want to
assure you that you've done not only the RIGHT thing, but the ONLY
thing you could.

-Bob
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2007 20:39 GMT
>>>I fully understand where you're coming from Catnipped.
>>>
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>
> -Bob

Thanks Bob!  It was the only thing *I* could do!

I do feel like Tayla wasn't given the chance she deserves - but ultimately
she has champions for her cause in the rescue group who adopted her to me
and who will work hard to get her into an only-cat home where she can have
all of the attention and loving she so desperately wants.

Demi, Jessie, Sammy, Ozzy and Archer have only me to champion *their* cause
and protect them from stress and harm.

It's not the happy outcome I envisioned when I adopted Tayla and the boys,
that's for sure - but I guess nobody sets out to fail!  :<

Hugs,

CatNipped
Christina Websell - 27 Jul 2007 23:35 GMT
> On Jul 26, 12:00 pm, "Christina Websell"
> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> of a clowder, just like humans have their own personalities, likes and
> dislikes, and some mental or emotional abnormalities, so do cats!

Blimey, go easy.  I guess I hit a nerve. Sorry.  I feel well slapped when I
was hoping to help.  I will shut up now.

Tweed
CatNipped - 28 Jul 2007 14:47 GMT
>> On Jul 26, 12:00 pm, "Christina Websell"
>> <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>
> Tweed

I'm so sorry Tweed, I didn't mean for you to feel "well slapped" - I truly
apologize.  I'm just feeling so bad over this whole situation - this is
*NOT* the outcome we were hoping for and I feel like a failure, a louse, a
traitor to *ALL* my cats.  What I said to you was a knee-jerk reaction after
so many people had told me what I'd already felt - I failed... I failed
miserably.

Again, please accept my apologies - I had no right to "go off" on you like
that.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Outsider - 28 Jul 2007 15:42 GMT
I feel like a
> failure, a louse, a traitor to *ALL* my cats.  What I said to you was
> a knee-jerk reaction after so many people had told me what I'd already
> felt - I failed... I failed miserably.

I think you need to give yourself a break.  It doesn't sound like anyone
could fare better.  

Andy
JBHajos - 28 Jul 2007 09:46 GMT
> this is all any of us (especially Sammy) can take.  It's
>easy to sit a thousand miles away and kibbitz about what I should or
>shouldn't do - it's another to have to live in this stress-filled
>environment!

 Throughout this thread I've been sort of reminded of Grandma, who
when doubted would quote some old-time comedian she listened to on the
radio (long-ago pre-TV days).   Apparently he would counter with "Vas
you dere, Sharley?"  Only *you* are *there*, Lori, to know the
situation intimately.  This is my tenth year in RPCA and I think I
"know" you fairly well.  I trust your judgment.  Many purrs are sent
for Sammy, you and Ben, Tayla - hoping all goes well.  You've had more
than enough heartbreak.

   Jeanne
  Jeanne
Sherry - 28 Jul 2007 15:14 GMT
> > this is all any of us (especially Sammy) can take.  It's
> >easy to sit a thousand miles away and kibbitz about what I should or
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> you dere, Sharley?"  Only *you* are *there*, Lori, to know the
> situation intimately.  
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>     Jeanne

LOL, that is a good one! I think I should start asking myself "Vas you
Dere, Sherry?"
before I lay a finger on the keys.

Sherry
Sherry
CatNipped - 28 Jul 2007 16:16 GMT
>> this is all any of us (especially Sammy) can take.  It's
>>easy to sit a thousand miles away and kibbitz about what I should or
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>    Jeanne
>   Jeanne

Thank you, Jeanne.  You're right, I am the one "there" and ultimately I had
to take into consideration the needs of the many over the needs of the one
(ohmygawd, I sound like a Vulcan - anyone remember that quote?).

Anyway, not to make light of the situation, but "the proof is in the
pudding".  Tayla is up for re-adoption into a one-cat-only home (the woman
at the rescue said that there are always some people who can't afford the
cost or the work of more than one pet).  I kept stressing that Tayla was a
*VERY* lovable and well-behaved cat around humans, and that the *ONLY*
reason she was being returned was her inability to get along with other
cats, and that she would be a *PREFECT* pet for someone who only wanted one
pet.  They are pretty good there about trying to
place their cats in permanent homes (they do a *really* extensive interview
and follow-ups) so I think they will note this on her papers (some other
cats there have similar notations - there were about three "one cat only
home needed" signs - one *LESS* than were there when we adopted Tayla, so at
least one "only cat" cat got adopted).

I did find out when we were there that Tayla was brought back once before,
so I suspect there may have been similar problems and whoever brought her
back just didn't want to say why in case she couldn't get adopted again -
way wrong decision!  Tayla may even be able to accept cat companionship
somewhere down the line, but I think she needs to be *well* established in a
one cat household for a good while first if not forever.

It's been a day and a half since Tayla's return and already things have
gotten *MUCH* better.  As I noted in Sammy's update, she's out from under
the bed and has even ventured upstairs on her own.  Jessie is starting to
play with the boyz - for an 8-year-old she is *SO* playful still (typical
tortie! ;>).  Demi is out from behind her "hiding chair" and is back in her
favorite sunning spots.  And da boyz are here, there, and *EVERYWHERE* (I
got a snippet of video of them playing that I'm fixing to upload).  Da boyz
are snuggling up with Sammy every time they want to take a nap, and she
looks up at me with a disgusted look on her face when they do, but she
doesn't get up and move and I've even caught her giving them a sneak lick
when she thought I wasn't looking.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Irulan - 28 Jul 2007 17:59 GMT
I'm so glad to hear sweet Sammy is feeling much better.
I think she will love the boys a lot now that she doesn't
feel so threatened by another adult cat. Glad to hear that
Tayla is also going to be re-homed soon.

Lily & her mama

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>>> this is all any of us (especially Sammy) can take.  It's
>>>easy to sit a thousand miles away and kibbitz about what I should or
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>
> CatNipped
Exocat - 28 Jul 2007 22:04 GMT
"CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote

> It's been a day and a half since Tayla's return and already things have
> gotten *MUCH* better.  

That is hugely excellent news and the British Boys are all delighted :)

How's Sammy's sore bum?

Purrs for Sammy & everyone, and for Tayla to quickly find her True Home

Gordon & the FF
CatNipped - 28 Jul 2007 22:14 GMT
>> It's been a day and a half since Tayla's return and already things have
>> gotten *MUCH* better.
>
> That is hugely excellent news and the British Boys are all delighted :)
>
> How's Sammy's sore bum?

LOL!  I'm still putting Vaseline on her bum and she's still licking it off
indignantly (hey Samazon, how do you think *I* feel rubbing Vaseline there!!
;>).  The vet said it looked good, not inflamed or infected.

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Purrs for Sammy & everyone, and for Tayla to quickly find her True Home
>
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sam - 27 Jul 2007 03:53 GMT
> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!

Purrs on the way for the "Samazon" to chill soon (and to forgive poor
worried Meowmie!)

Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
polonca12000 - 29 Jul 2007 21:56 GMT
> I'm so sick about this - I can't stop kicking myself, I should have caught
> this *SO* much sooner!
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> Please send some purrs Sammy's way, she needs them with such a horrible,
> neglectful mommy!

We are sending lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for Sammy, but you
need to stop kicking yourself, CN. Kitties are really good at hiding the
fact they are not feeling well.
Purrs,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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