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MaryL - 23 Jul 2007 22:53 GMT
I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs, with
more rain forecast.  I hope none of you have suffered any losses.

MaryL
Jack Campin - bogus address - 23 Jul 2007 23:24 GMT
> I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
> flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
> with more rain forecast.  I hope none of you have suffered any losses.

Rain's been pretty bad here too, though no floods like the ones in
England.  The BBC says it's already well past the 1947 record.

The pictures and video on the BBC website make Gloucestershire look
like New Orleans after Katrina.

It just gets bloody depressing with week after week of solid rain.
The house is full of washing hanging on racks since nothing will
dry outside, and there are slugs and snails climbing up the doors
and windows and through the catflap.  Luckily we've had a couple of
days of mostly sunshine just lately.

The furries are just lazing about and the bitties (three weeks old)
have just started getting all four legs to work in the same direction.
They come out of their nest to look around at about 2am.

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MaryL - 23 Jul 2007 23:34 GMT
>> I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
>> flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
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> stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739
> 557

That sounds pretty unpleasant, but I'm glad all of you are doing well.
Hurricane Rita (but not Katrina) came directly over my area, and we were
without power for 7 days -- another unpleasant result that can accompany
some of these storms.

MaryL
Matthew - 23 Jul 2007 23:47 GMT
>>> I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
>>> flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> MaryL

Lucky you weren't in our area in 2004 Charley 13 days, Francis 11 days, Ivan
7 days, Jeanne 4 days.  Generators and solar power only do so much.
Cantate - 24 Jul 2007 00:22 GMT
Purrrrrrrrrrrs for all in Britain.  I understand about the mold and
slugs; we're still in rainy season and nothing will dry out here
either.  There is actually sunshine today-- the sky is a gorgeous deep
blue (very clean from all the water, I suppose), but they said it
won't last long.

By the way, yesterday my school sent a team of men and high school/
college boys up to help with the Kashiwazaki quake cleanup-- three
vans of helpers.  They're going to help people get stuff out of the
collapsed houses, and help clean up rubble and such.

Cantate
MaryL - 24 Jul 2007 03:22 GMT
>>>> I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
>>>> flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> Lucky you weren't in our area in 2004 Charley 13 days, Francis 11 days,
> Ivan 7 days, Jeanne 4 days.  Generators and solar power only do so much.

You're right about that.  One irony is that we were an evacuation center for
Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, then Rita came right through this area.  On the
other hand, we are far enough from the coast that we did not suffer any
intense damage.  I learned from that experience, though, to stock up on a
*huge* supply of batteries.  It's amazing how many batteries I went through
during those 7 days.  I have some little battery-powered fans, and they were
an immense help during those hot days with no power.  I also made a lot of
use of those little fluorescent free-standing campstyle lights.  I gave some
thought to buying a generator afterwards but decided against it.  They're
expensive, require more maintenance than I realized, and I have only been
without power for more than two days at a time twice in the 40+ years since
I have lived here.

There were more than 700 animals in the Expo Center.  All types of
animals -- cats, dogs, birds, fish (in tanks), horses, ponies, donkeys, plus
numerous smaller pets like snakes, pet rats and mice, etc.

MaryL
Joy - 24 Jul 2007 00:22 GMT
>>> I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
>>> flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> MaryL

And I thought 30 hours with no power, during a heat wave, was bad!

I've heard that there are parts of England that are without power and
without safe water to drink, and that the stores are out of food.

Joy
Winnie - 24 Jul 2007 01:40 GMT
> And I thought 30 hours with no power, during a heat wave, was bad!

During the ice storm of 1998, many in this area were without
power for weeks. That was in the depth of winter where the temperture
sometimes went down to -30C.  I was lucky
the power in my building stayed on.

Winnie
Mishi - 24 Jul 2007 03:47 GMT
>> And I thought 30 hours with no power, during a heat wave, was bad!
>
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>
>Winnie

Hi Winnie,

My sister was living just south of you (Ogdensburg, NY) during that
storm, and was lucky enough to have a wood stove for heat, and a gas
stove for cooking.  She said she didn't have to worry about the
freezer thawing - all she had to do was put the stuff outside and it
would be safe. The power pole to her house came down and missed her
car by inches. I was talking to her on the phone when it happened.
There was this loud CRACK, and then a huge thump.  Funny thing though,
she never lost her phone line.

Mishi
Winnie - 24 Jul 2007 05:05 GMT
> Hi Winnie,
>
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>
> Mishi

I am glad your sister survived the Ice Storm of the Century.
I live in a building that only has electric heating and electric
stoves. Since I am in a highrise, electric power is needed
for the water pump.  I would have to evacuate if I lost power during
the Ice Storm.
There are emergency power supply or generators for phone
lines. I remember during that Big Black Out that wiped out power in
eastern Canada and U.S., lots of cell phones didn't work. But I never
lost my phone line during power outages. I might be in the dark with
no water, and no means for  cooking, but I could still talk on the
phone or call for help. I am never going to replace my land line with
a cell phone.

Winnie
Lesley - 24 Jul 2007 09:49 GMT
Funny thing though,
>she never lost her phone line.

During Hurricane Katrina, Dave tried on the off chance to contact a friend of
his who was in the area, he was worried about her but didn't expect to get
through.

He did and she told him, she was sitting in the dark with no power at all but
somehow her phone was still working!

Maybe the US phone network is very durable

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
MaryL - 24 Jul 2007 11:25 GMT
> Funny thing though,
>>she never lost her phone line.
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>
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Phone service is often (but not always) available if we use a non-portable
phone because they do not require electricity.  For that reason, I keep one
phone of that type always available.

MaryL
wafflycat - 23 Jul 2007 23:59 GMT
>I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
>flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
>with more rain forecast.  I hope none of you have suffered any losses.
>
> MaryL

Luckily for me, the floods are in a different part of the UK, so we're fine.
The stream at the end of the garden has burst its banks once this summer
(never happened before in living memory according to the locals. Winter -
yes, summer - no) but again, the powers that be smiled on us and we stayed
dry. To start off with, the main flooding was flash floods due to intense
rainfall overwhelming the drains. Now, all that water is in the river
systems, the rivers have burst their banks and spread out wide and deep
across old flood plains. One of the problems is the lack of investment in
flood defences & watercourse maintenance to the required standards, that and
the tarmacing over of what was open fields so the water can't be absorbed
into the ground - it just runs straight off, causing major problems.
MaryL - 24 Jul 2007 03:26 GMT
>>I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
>>flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> water can't be absorbed into the ground - it just runs straight off,
> causing major problems.

A friend of mine (a woman who was on the City Commission at the time and
later was Mayor) said years ago that lack of planning turns highways into
rivers during periods of excessive rain.  Just as you said, the water can't
be absorbed.  In addition, it is quickly transported into areas that can't
handle it and may create flood situations -- or intensify flood
situations -- that would not have fared so badly without all of those rivers
of concrete.

MaryL
Exocat - 24 Jul 2007 00:40 GMT
"MaryL" wrote in message
>I hope all of you and your masters are fine.

Thanks for the thoughts. Here in Cornwall we've suffered no flooding, just
dreary wet weather like we do every winter only now it's a bit warmer. The
Masters are unhappy at reduced opportunities to be outside basking and the
doggie's regularly damp but apart from that no problems.

Purrs for the assorted deluges to stop soon & bring relief to upcountry.

Gordon & the FF
Karen - 24 Jul 2007 01:29 GMT
> I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
> flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
> with more rain forecast.  I hope none of you have suffered any losses.
>
> MaryL

I was wondering how everyone was too. It looks horrible.
Flippy - 24 Jul 2007 03:17 GMT
>I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
>flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
>with more rain forecast.  I hope none of you have suffered any losses.
>
> MaryL

Purrs or our British friends.

Flippy.
Debbie Wilson - 24 Jul 2007 08:54 GMT
> I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
> flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs, with
> more rain forecast.  I hope none of you have suffered any losses.

Thanks for thinking of us, Mary. All fine here (Surrey) although the
bottom of our road flooded last Friday despite the huge new drains that
were put in a few years ago - no rivers here, it was all surface water
rushing down. Fortunately we live at the top of a hill so we are OK, but
elsewhere in the country it's dire with no drinking water for hundreds
of thousands of people and billions of pounds of damage from Yorkshire
to Gloucestershire. Wish this bloody rain would STOP!!! I'm with Jack on
the slugs and snails, they get everywhere!! The cats keep bringing them
in on their fur and paws :-(

Deb.
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Sheelagh >o< - 25 Jul 2007 13:54 GMT
On 23 Jul, 22:53, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER>
wrote:
> I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
> flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs, with
> more rain forecast.  I hope none of you have suffered any losses.
>
> MaryL

Many thanks for those rumble purrs which are very much appreciated.
Last night we had to go out & rescue the cats out of their runs,
because the back garden was almost a strong stream!!. Thankfully we
live on the only hill for many miles around. we live in East Anglia,
which is almost totally reclaimed land from the sea,(under sea level
too!!) & most of the village is actually under sea level, so any rain
we get, added to our clay soil, ends up either pooling , or floods the
plain fens. any over flow from the storm drains is sent into our dyke
systems, but even those are now over flowing too.

The sewage has entered the clean water dams, so we are having to
collect water from the army who were handing out crates of water to
all families, but since then,, they have set up a tank system where we
can go and collect water as we need it. We brought the cats indoors
from the run @ around 7 pm when it became clear that their safety
looked threatened. With 7 adults & 4 kittens, we chose to bring them
indoors, where they were safe & just as well that we did. We had only
just got them indoors, when we realised that everything that wasn't
bolted down in the garden, was starting to float down hill towards our
fence, which now has a gaping great hole in it, where the water was
trying to break through; it certainly broke through in the end, that
is for sure!!

All of the cats seem to be making the most life indoors, & seem
perfectly happy, but it is not easy with all of the kids on summer
holiday's, & all of those doors that need to be closed before one of
the cats escape!! A bit of a nightmare really, but could be far, far
worse. we have our home still, our children are safe & so are our cats
too.

I know that it is going to take some time for the effects of the rain
to dissipate, & I worry about the food in the shops because people
around here have been panic buying water, fresh vegetable and suchlike
too. East Anglia is the kitchen garden of the country (UK), & I also
fear that many farmers have lost their crops this year to the rain,
the dykes overflowing all over thier fields, so this is going to have
a long term effect.
Lets not worry over what can't be undone, but look to the future &
what we can do to make our homes defend-able & help those who are
worse off than us...
ALL Purrs are appreciated very much- & thank you for thinking of us
too,
Sheelagh
MaryL - 25 Jul 2007 14:38 GMT
> On 23 Jul, 22:53, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER>
> wrote:
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> too,
> Sheelagh

Sheelagh,

Thanks for posting, and thanks for getting all your kitties inside where
they are safe.  It sounds like it could have been a disaster for them if you
had not acted.  The situation still sounds pretty bad for most of you, and
I'm glad to hear that arrangements have been made for water and supplies.

Also, congratulations!  I just read Matthew's post on h+b, where he said
that your daughter graduated from college last week *with honors.*  You must
be very proud.

MaryL
Sheelagh >o< - 25 Jul 2007 15:24 GMT
On 25 Jul, 14:38, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER>
wrote:

> > On 23 Jul, 22:53, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER>
> > wrote:
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, we could see the water starting to run down the garden, & we were
not prepared to take the chance., so we brought them indoors. Some are
delighted, & the others are looking out of the windows wistfully. We
need to wait for the runs to dry out, then we can clean them properly
before we allow them to go back out there again.  The army brought
water around first thing this morning, & now we have tanks @ most
residential junctions where we can collect what we need for drinking,
& for the cats too of course!!

Yes, I was delighted to attend Katie's graduation ceremony, where she
did indeed get an Honours in Health, & Social care. She is working for
social services currently, & has been accepted @ Warwick university to
start her master of arts, whilst her boyfriend completes his research
into genetics. He did even better believe it or not. Graduate of the
year, & now sponsored by Glaxo Smith Klein. (scholarship)! They are
actually paying him to do his doctorate. I am delighted for them both,
and so proud of them as well.

Thank you very much for that too Mary :o)
Sheelagh>"o"<
polonca12000 - 28 Jul 2007 20:51 GMT
<snip>
> Yes, I was delighted to attend Katie's graduation ceremony, where she
> did indeed get an Honours in Health, & Social care. She is working for
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>  Thank you very much for that too Mary :o)
> Sheelagh>"o"<

Congrats to your daughter and her boyfriend!
Best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
Christina Websell - 25 Jul 2007 23:34 GMT
>I hope all of you and your masters are fine.  I have been reading about
>flood waters in England.  Reports say some area have had 60-year highs,
>with more rain forecast.  I hope none of you have suffered any losses.
>
> MaryL
I am lucky that I live in an area where no houses have been flooded,
although many fields are under water and a few roads are impassable.
Further south in Gloucestershire the situation is very serious. 250,000 are
without electricity and the water pumping station has failed so they have no
water to add to the misery of having their homes ruined.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/gloucestershire/floods/

It's very worrying - it has hardly stopped raining here for 3 months.  Crops
are ruined.  I hear potatoes in particular will be in short supply later on.
Almost anything that grows in the earth too, I suppose.
It has rained today, but not all day - and it will rain again tomorrow.  I
heard on the radio that we will not have any summer this year, that this is
forecasted to continue until autumn, which is when it gets wet anyway :-(

Tweed
 
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