Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't surprise me)
or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending to be stupid teens or
they are just stupid identity theft people (not necessarily teens).
Yesterday I went out, I had no mail. That's odd; I usually at least have an
unwanted catalog. I also noticed ALL the flags on the mailbox were UP
indicating we all had outgoing mail. I knew what wasn't the case. So I
glanced in the other mailboxes; they were also all empty. Kiddy prank?
That's what I thought at the time. And I put them all back down.
So this evening I ran to the store about 8:30. Nothing appeared amiss but I
didn't go out my back door; my car is parked by my front door. A short time
ago I realized I hadn't checked my mailbox today. So I went out the back
door through the patio to walk to the street to my mailbox. There's trash
scattered all over the grass behind my patio fence. Sales flyers, trash, I
figured. Annoying. As I scooped it all up I realized there were also
letters, envelopes, all ripped open. Someone had raided our mailboxes!
All the letters were empty. Not just my stuff; stuff from all 6 mailboxes
on my row. Including credit card statements, bank statements. Oh gawd.
I just called and left a message with the apartment manager's service. I
haven't gone through this entire pile of paper yet (I gathered up as much as
I could see in the dark.) I don't know if this is kids (god knows there are
more teens around since school got out than I ever saw around here before)
or the workmen from across the street since the duplex went up for sale.
I immediately called and reported it to the apartment manager's office.
Frankly, I was shocked when I got a live service rather than an answering
machine. But the apartment office is closed on Sunday. Who knows when I'll
get a call back?
Should I report it to the post office? They aren't open tomorrow, either.
And what the heck could they do? It's a federal offense to tamper with U.S.
mail, but it's not like they have cameras perched in the trees.
What about the police? Should I call them tomorrow? Again, what could they
do? No one saw anything. I didn't hear anything. Who would hear paper
being scattered around?
I'm just so angry. I'll look at all the envelopes (the stupid sales flyers
won't help). I'll type up a note explaining what I found. Then I'll figure
out which addresses the mail was intended for, then tape the note on their
front doors tomorrow explaining what I found. At a quick glance they are
all neighbors at my end of the complex. They need to know if they should be
phoning their banks ASAP.
Of course I didn't go around tonight checking to see if other mailboxes and
yards in the complex had similarly been affected. At this time of night I'm
not about to. But I'll compose a note, you betcha. Then I'll see what the
apartment manager has to say. Maybe she'll call me back tomorrow even
though the office is closed.
Dammit, this just pisses me off. It's been such a nice quiet neighborhood
for 10 years (except for the cats that annoyed Persia, and they've moved).
Now we have this sort of crap going on?
Jill
Sherry - 08 Jul 2007 05:49 GMT
> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't surprise me)
> or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending to be stupid teens or
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>
> Jill
Jill, yes, IMO you should file a police report. Even if the police
aren't able
to catch the people, the report needs to be on file. And a copy of the
report
would likely be helpful in a worst-case scenario, if there's some kind
of
fraud committed with the stolen mail, when the victim may have to
prove
their mail was stolen. A friend mine had a box of new checks she'd
ordered
stolen from her box, and it was a nightmare for her.
Many people who don't feel that their mailbox is secure are renting
P.O.
boxes at the post office. It's a hassle to get your mail, but much
safer. Mailbox
theft is becoming common.
Sherry
MaryL - 08 Jul 2007 06:18 GMT
> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't surprise me)
> or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending to be stupid teens
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>
> Jill
You definitely should report this to the Postal Service (what you described
is a federal offense), and I think you should also report it to the police.
Also, handle the mail *as little as possible* until you turn it over to
authorities.
MaryL
R - 08 Jul 2007 06:51 GMT
> So this evening I ran to the store about 8:30. Nothing appeared amiss
> but I didn't go out my back door; my car is parked by my front door. A
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> mailboxes on my row. Including credit card statements, bank statements.
> Oh gawd.
This should be reported to your local postmaster/post office as it is a
Federal crime. The local police can do little other than take a report.
The people involved need to be informed which the police and postmaster
should take care of.
I am checking with my Dad and stepmother who are retired postal
supervisors for any further suggestions and will inform further later.
A check with the three major credit reporting firms as well as any banks -
involved - i.e. expected blank checks etc - is recommended.
R - 08 Jul 2007 08:53 GMT
>> So this evening I ran to the store about 8:30. Nothing appeared amiss
>> but I didn't go out my back door; my car is parked by my front door. A
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> A check with the three major credit reporting firms as well as any banks
> - involved - i.e. expected blank checks etc - is recommended.
Here is the response I received from my stepmother:
"Yes, any tampering with the mail at any time regardless of where it is
physically is a Federal Offense. One should report it to the Postal
Service as well as the POSTAL INSPECTION SERVICE for the area. They
should try to handle the mail at a minimum to try to preserve any finger
prints and should save the mail as evidence for the Inspectors."
Good Luck to you and all that are involved.
R
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 08 Jul 2007 20:58 GMT
>>So this evening I ran to the store about 8:30. Nothing appeared amiss
>>but I didn't go out my back door; my car is parked by my front door. A
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> A check with the three major credit reporting firms as well as any banks -
> involved - i.e. expected blank checks etc - is recommended.
That's ANOTHER reason I object to my credit card companies
sending a "supply" of blank checks attached to their monthly
bill! Also all the offers of "upgrades" (with enclosed
pseudo credit card and phone number, so I can receive
automatic acceptance by phone). I'm perfectly happy with
the account I already HAVE, thank you - if I want another,
I'll get in touch with the company, myself!
MaryL - 08 Jul 2007 22:31 GMT
>>>So this evening I ran to the store about 8:30. Nothing appeared amiss
>>>but I didn't go out my back door; my car is parked by my front door. A
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> the account I already HAVE, thank you - if I want another, I'll get in
> touch with the company, myself!
Yes, that's one of my pet peeves. I shred *everything* that has my name and
address attached, but that wouldn't help if someone has taken things out of
my mailbox before I get there. I have an address (*somewhere* -- I need to
look it up) where we can contact the three credit bureaus and have our names
placed on a list to prevent credit checks and unsolicited offers for credit.
I don't know if it will help with those where we already have accounts (for
example, blank checks), but it is supposed to prevent credit checks unless
the owner specifically permits it. I have also changed from snail mail for
statements/bills to online notification. Unfortunately, we're not
completely safe no matter what actions we take to protect ourselves.
MaryL
Kreisleriana - 08 Jul 2007 14:01 GMT
>Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't surprise me)
>or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending to be stupid teens or
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>
>Jill
File a police report AND report it to the Postal Service, Jill- it's a
federal offense. Even if these people aren't caught, the authorities
need to know this is happening. Purrs for your nerves, and hoping
this is just an extra-stoopid one-off.
Theresa
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jmcquown - 08 Jul 2007 14:08 GMT
>> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't
>> surprise me) or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending
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> need to know this is happening. Purrs for your nerves, and hoping
> this is just an extra-stoopid one-off.
I called. They don't care. Said they can't sent someone out to collect
trash that was scattered around from mailboxes since it's mostly sales and
coupon fliers. I did identify some of the stuff that belonged to my
neighbors and gave it to them and told them to report it, too. There's not
much else I can do.
Jill
mlbriggs - 08 Jul 2007 20:06 GMT
>>> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't surprise
>>> me) or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending to be stupid
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>
> Jill
This should be reported to your local postmaster AND send a copy to the
Postmaster General in Washington DC. mlb
steve@successwillnotwait.com - 11 Jul 2007 02:24 GMT
> >> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't
> >> surprise me) or we have someone intent onidentitytheftpretending
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Hi Jill,
There is a lot you can do. You have rights and they have been
violated. You are protected by laws and they have been broken. Don't
take no for an answer from the local police or from the Postmaster
General. This is how identity theft starts. People recruit kids to
steal information and pay them $20-$100 for the info and then the
nightmare begins. Call the credit agencies too and freeze your credit.
You can do this yourself but it has to be done every three months or
it will un-freeze. This will at least prevent anyone from opening any
new accounts in your name. Then seriously consider an identity theft
protection/restoration service.
Hope this helps.
Steve
Matthew - 08 Jul 2007 17:07 GMT
POLICE NOW YES
> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't surprise me)
> or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending to be stupid teens
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>
> Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 08 Jul 2007 20:49 GMT
> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't surprise me)
> or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending to be stupid teens or
> they are just stupid identity theft people (not necessarily teens).
>
> Yesterday I went out, I had no mail. That's odd; I usually at least have an
> unwanted catalog.
I live in an apartment complex with outside mailboxes, too -
however, ours all have locks, and although the postman's key
can open a whole section at a time, individual boxes can
only be opened by their own keys (or a locksmith). I
thought that was standard for all apartment mailboxes,
whether they are in a building or not - is that not true
where you live?
In your case, I think it sounds more like bratty kids with
too much time on their hands - identity thieves would be
more subtle than to leave evidence of their theft "blowing
in the wind". (Of course, I could be wrong, but even though
they opened envelopes, the modus operandi sounds more like
malicious mischief to me than anything really sinister.)
jmcquown - 09 Jul 2007 02:00 GMT
>> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't
>> surprise me) or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending
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> whether they are in a building or not - is that not true
> where you live?
No. My mailbox is out by the curb and is just like any mailbox a regular
house would have. No locks.
> In your case, I think it sounds more like bratty kids with
> too much time on their hands - identity thieves would be
> more subtle than to leave evidence of their theft "blowing
> in the wind". (Of course, I could be wrong, but even though
> they opened envelopes, the modus operandi sounds more like
> malicious mischief to me than anything really sinister.)
Just ticks me off that someone lets their kids run around doing stupid crap
like this. Don't they monitor what their kids are doing? I had to cancel
my credit card on the off chance they got hold of some info and decided to
go on a shopping spree at the mall. GRRRRRR.
darwinbull@gmail.com - 09 Jul 2007 03:29 GMT
> >> Either we have some really stupid teens around here (wouldn't
> >> surprise me) or we have someone intent on identity theft pretending
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> my credit card on the off chance they got hold of some info and decided to
> go on a shopping spree at the mall. GRRRRRR.
Sorry to hear about this...