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Yoj - 04 Nov 2004 23:15 GMT I expect to be getting another cat in the near future - possibly next week. I have always introduced additional cats to those in residence more or less immediately, and there have never been any problems other than a few minor spats.
I know the prevalent idea seems to be to do it gradually, but I an unsure how this works. It seems to me that if I keep them separated, it means either isolating the newcomer, which doesn't seem like a very good way to make him or her feel at home, or isolating the resident cat, which seems to me it would make the resident resent the newcomer even more. I am especially concerned about nighttime. Lindy sleeps on my bed. Shutting her out and have the new cat in my bedroom seems very unfair to Lindy, and shutting out the new cat certainly wouldn't encourage him or her to sleep with me later on.
I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family.
Joy
Ted Davis - 05 Nov 2004 03:55 GMT >I expect to be getting another cat in the near future - possibly next >week. I have always introduced additional cats to those in residence [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I >decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family. If you isolate the new cat in a closed off room that has a vent from the forced air HVAC system and a return path, the scents of all the cats will meld together without unnecessary stress scents being mixed in. The new cat will probably appreciate not having to learn about a large area at once - after release (and after recovering from the stress of being rehomed), the newcomer will have a known refuge available while it inspects ever increasing areas of the house. Also, when released, the new cat will have a familiar scent, and will know the scents of the other cats and of the house. Scent is extremely important to cats, and I recommend leaving the HVAC fan on continuously. If there is no forced air HVAC system to help mix and distribute the scents, I'm not so sure that the isolation approach has as much value as it does for me.
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Marina - 05 Nov 2004 05:06 GMT > I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just > wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I > decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family. In my family, we've always just plonked the new cat in among the old ones and let them work it out among themselves. It's never taken long before the new cat was accepted, but then the new cat has always been a young one. I don't know how well this would work with an older cat. Also, I'd say that if you want to take a kitten, take two, so they can play with each other, as Lindy might not want to play as much as a kitten would. My E0.02. :o)
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Sherry - 05 Nov 2004 05:26 GMT >> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just >> wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I >> decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family. I always shut the new one up in the guest bedroom for at least a week. Sometimes longer if Bootsie's in a "mood." That gives some "sniff under the door" time. Just depends on the cats, really. If I just had Yoda and Frank, who are very welcoming of newcomers, I could probably just plunk the newbie down and they'd be fine with it. Sherry
Yoj - 05 Nov 2004 08:42 GMT > >> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just > >> wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > down and they'd be fine with it. > Sherry Thanks, Sherry. So far I haven't had any problems with the plonking method, but of course all cats are different. Lindy is the last cat I've acquired, and she and Skeeter got along okay after the first suspicious period, but Skeeter has never been on the receiving end of having a new cat brought in.
Joy
Seanette Blaylock - 05 Nov 2004 06:11 GMT Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Question:
>> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just >> wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >play with each other, as Lindy might not want to play as much as a >kitten would. My E0.02. :o) Your family's approach is what my family's always done, and we've never had anyone hurt during the getting-to-know-you stage. OK, some initial hissing/growling/cursing, but generally from a polite distance. I've found that mostly, cats who don't like each other tend to simply avoid each others' company if at all possible.
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Yoj - 05 Nov 2004 08:43 GMT > Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to > say about Re: Question: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > distance. I've found that mostly, cats who don't like each other tend > to simply avoid each others' company if at all possible. Thanks, Seanette. That method has always worked well for us so far.
Joy
Nina K Pettis - 05 Nov 2004 19:32 GMT > Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to > say about Re: Question: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > distance. I've found that mostly, cats who don't like each other tend > to simply avoid each others' company if at all possible. Here's another vote for plonking; of course, we talk to our cats a lot, so we explain who this is, where he came from, and that he isn't "taking anyone's place" in the family. We introduce the newbie to the water, food & litterbox. Then we tell everyone to play nice, and sit back & watch. There were some hisses and swats when Jack joined up, but he'd bigger than the old guys, so they had to let him know his place in the natural order of things (i.e., lowest). But nobody has hissed at Coke, and they're very accepting of him. Of course, we did start out with "This is Jack's new playmate," which might have influenced them to welcome him with open arms...
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Yoj - 05 Nov 2004 08:40 GMT > > I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just > > wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Marina, Frank and Nikki Thanks, Marina. That's the way we've always done it in the past. Both Skeeter (RB) and Lindy were over a year old when I got them. If I end up with a kitten, I'll seriously consider getting two. However, if I can find a suitable one that's between one and two years old, that's what I'd like to get. I feel that there are a lot more people wanting to adopt kittens than grown cats, so I'd rather save an older one.
Joy
Jeanette - 05 Nov 2004 09:08 GMT > I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just > wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I > decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family. > > Joy I've introduced adult cats to each other three times. The first time was when I was looking after Fuzzbox, who used to be my cat, and then was my mothers. He came to stay with us a few months after we adopted Izzi and Fenda. We were living in a small flat, and there was nowhere to isolate him, so I just let him out in the living room straight away. He knew me already of course, and instantly acted as if he was the resident cat, and the girls were interesting visitors. They were all roughly the same age (he was three, the girls were two) and they got on just fine almost straight away.
Ripley was a stray when he moved in with us, and as Izzi and Fenda were indoor / outdoor cats anyway, they already knew him as a neighbourhood cat, so introductions weren't necessary. Izzi complained about him almost constantly though, she didn't like him, and never grew to like him. They rarely fought though, and Ripley was always the perfect gentleman with her.
Introducing three year old Cav to seven year old Ripley was much easier than expected. We kept Cav in the conservatory for the first day and night, apart from an hour when he was allowed to explore the living room. That meant that they could watch each other all night through the glass doors, and also get the chance to get each other's scent. We allowed them to mix the next day, supervised, and took Cav back to the conservatory for a 'time out' if they got too worked up. After three days, we were leaving them alone together. They did have some spectacular fights and screaming sessions over the next couple of months, but they get on very well now, and seem to enjoy each other's company.
Jeanette
Yoj - 05 Nov 2004 09:20 GMT > > I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just > > wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Jeanette Thanks, Jeanette.
Joy
nospam@austin.rr.com - 05 Nov 2004 12:03 GMT >> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just >> wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Jeanette Mine still still have the occasional screaming session, and it's been over a year. Two of my three will be beating eachother up, hissing and screaming, etc. an hour later they will be sleeping together and grooming eachother. Cats.
Ginger-lyn Summer - 05 Nov 2004 19:42 GMT >I expect to be getting another cat in the near future - possibly next >week. I have always introduced additional cats to those in residence [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Joy Hi, Joy,
I've done it both ways, and a "middle" way, too (keeping cat in carrier in living room for several hours while the others checked him out).
I know conventional wisdom is to do it slowly, and that is the way I have been doing it for several years now. We have a separate room so we can isolate the new one, and there are some good reasons for doing this, including not knowing health status and not yet having vaccinations done, which I think is safer in that case. If you already have taken care of testing and vaccinations, then those are no longer a reason to isolate, at least.
For me, it has worked well both ways. With Trill, for instance (isolated) enough cats had sniffed at the door by the time he was vaccinate and neutered and all that his introduction was easy. Mojo (RB) just got tossed into the soup, so to speak, and every single cat here adored him in less than an hour.
If you spend enough time with an isolated new kitty, I think it is okay. Especially if it is a household with many cats, they may actually feel safer, and have a chance to get their bearings before having to deal with a horde of cats ;-)
At any rate, I think a lot of it has to do with individual cats' personalities, no matter how the introductions are made. Some will simply never like others, while others will take to other cats like they're known each other since birth.
Just my rambling thoughts. Best of luck!
Ginger-lyn
O J - 06 Nov 2004 02:39 GMT Joy wrote:
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>I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it. I'm just >wondering about the ramifications. I'd appreciate any input before I >decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family. We've done it both ways. When we introduced Lady Jane to Misty, who's long since gone where the good pussycats go, we kept Janie in the spare bedroom for a week before allowing her the run of the house. Misty greeted the newcomer in a most un-catlike manner. She didn't hiss, spit, or swat, she just ran at Lady Jane full speed and knocked her 'a.s over teakettle'.
We've had more luck introducing kittens at a more accelerated pace and Smokey, an adult when we got him, joined the family rather quickly. We've only had to take back one cat. A breeder of Persians let her queens go for a nominal fee after they'd had a few litters. They'd done well by their human, and she wanted to return the favor by finding them good homes after she was done breeding them. None of the standard tricks worked, the newcomer would simply attack whichever of the cats was closest whenever we tried to let her out of the spare bedroom. Poor thing, I hope she went someplace where she's the only cat.
Regards and Purrs, O J
Adrian - 06 Nov 2004 10:58 GMT > I expect to be getting another cat in the near future - possibly next > week. I have always introduced additional cats to those in residence [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joy You've had lots of answers so I'll just send purrs that everything goes smoothly.
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