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Yoj - 04 Nov 2004 23:15 GMT
I expect to be getting another cat in the near future - possibly next
week.  I have always introduced additional cats to those in residence
more or less immediately, and there have never been any problems other
than a few minor spats.

I know the prevalent idea seems to be to do it gradually, but I an
unsure how this works.  It seems to me that if I keep them separated, it
means either isolating the newcomer, which doesn't seem like a very good
way to make him or her feel at home, or isolating the resident cat,
which seems to me it would make the resident resent the newcomer even
more.  I am especially concerned about nighttime.  Lindy sleeps on my
bed.  Shutting her out and have the new cat in my bedroom seems very
unfair to Lindy, and shutting out the new cat certainly wouldn't
encourage him or her to sleep with me later on.

I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family.

Joy
Ted Davis - 05 Nov 2004 03:55 GMT
>I expect to be getting another cat in the near future - possibly next
>week.  I have always introduced additional cats to those in residence
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>wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
>decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family.

If you isolate the new cat in a closed off room that has a vent from
the forced air HVAC system and a return path, the scents of all the
cats will meld together without unnecessary stress scents being mixed
in.  The new cat will probably appreciate not having to learn about a
large area at once - after release (and after recovering from the
stress of being rehomed), the newcomer will have a known refuge
available while it inspects ever increasing areas of the house.  Also,
when released, the new cat will have a familiar scent, and will know
the scents of the other cats and of the house.  Scent is extremely
important to cats, and I recommend leaving the HVAC fan on
continuously.  If there is no forced air HVAC system to help mix and
distribute the scents, I'm not so sure that the isolation approach has
as much value as it does for me.

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T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
Marina - 05 Nov 2004 05:06 GMT
> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
> wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
> decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family.

In my family, we've always just plonked the new cat in among the old
ones and let them work it out among themselves. It's never taken long
before the new cat was accepted, but then the new cat has always been a
young one. I don't know how well this would work with an older cat.
Also, I'd say that if you want to take a kitten, take two, so they can
play with each other, as Lindy might not want to play as much as a
kitten would. My E0.02. :o)

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Sherry - 05 Nov 2004 05:26 GMT
>> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
>> wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
>> decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family.

I always shut the new one up in the guest bedroom for at least a week.
Sometimes longer if Bootsie's in a "mood." That gives some "sniff under the
door" time.  Just depends on the cats, really. If I just had Yoda and Frank,
who are very welcoming of newcomers, I could probably just plunk the newbie
down and they'd be fine with it.
Sherry
Yoj - 05 Nov 2004 08:42 GMT
> >> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
> >> wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
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> down and they'd be fine with it.
> Sherry

Thanks, Sherry.  So far I haven't had any problems with the plonking
method, but of course all cats are different.  Lindy is the last cat
I've acquired, and she and Skeeter got along okay after the first
suspicious period, but Skeeter has never been on the receiving end of
having a new cat brought in.

Joy
Seanette Blaylock - 05 Nov 2004 06:11 GMT
Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to
say about Re: Question:

>> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
>> wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
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>play with each other, as Lindy might not want to play as much as a
>kitten would. My E0.02. :o)

Your family's approach is what my family's always done, and we've
never had anyone hurt during the getting-to-know-you stage. OK, some
initial hissing/growling/cursing, but generally from a polite
distance. I've found that mostly, cats who don't like each other tend
to simply avoid each others' company if at all possible.

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Yoj - 05 Nov 2004 08:43 GMT
> Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to
> say about Re: Question:
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> distance. I've found that mostly, cats who don't like each other tend
> to simply avoid each others' company if at all possible.

Thanks, Seanette.  That method has always worked well for us so far.

Joy
Nina K Pettis - 05 Nov 2004 19:32 GMT
> Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to
> say about Re: Question:
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> distance. I've found that mostly, cats who don't like each other tend
> to simply avoid each others' company if at all possible.

Here's another vote for plonking; of course, we talk to our cats a
lot, so we explain who this is, where he came from, and that he isn't
"taking anyone's place" in the family.  We introduce the newbie to the
water, food & litterbox.  Then we tell everyone to play nice, and sit
back & watch.  There were some hisses and swats when Jack joined up,
but he'd bigger than the old guys, so they had to let him know his
place in the natural order of things (i.e., lowest).  But nobody has
hissed at Coke, and they're very accepting of him.  Of course, we did
start out with "This is Jack's new playmate," which might have
influenced them to welcome him with open arms...

Nina in Texas, enslaved by:
Snickelfritz (RB), Pixel (RB), Rusty (RB), Skeeter, Kyle, Jack, and
Coke??
Yoj - 05 Nov 2004 08:40 GMT
> > I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
> > wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
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> --
> Marina, Frank and Nikki

Thanks, Marina.  That's the way we've always done it in the past.  Both
Skeeter (RB) and Lindy were over a year old when I got them.  If I end
up with a kitten, I'll seriously consider getting two.  However, if I
can find a suitable one that's between one and two years old, that's
what I'd like to get.  I feel that there are a lot more people wanting
to adopt kittens than grown cats, so I'd rather save an older one.

Joy
Jeanette - 05 Nov 2004 09:08 GMT
> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
> wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
> decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family.
>
> Joy

I've introduced adult cats to each other three times. The first time was
when I was looking after Fuzzbox, who used to be my cat, and then was my
mothers. He came to stay with us a few months after we adopted Izzi and
Fenda. We were living in a small flat, and there was nowhere to isolate him,
so I just let him out in the living room straight away. He knew me already
of  course, and instantly acted as if he was the resident cat, and the girls
were interesting visitors. They were all roughly the same age (he was three,
the girls were two) and they got on just fine almost straight away.

Ripley was a stray when he moved in with  us, and as Izzi and Fenda were
indoor / outdoor cats anyway, they already knew him as a neighbourhood cat,
so introductions weren't necessary. Izzi complained about him almost
constantly though, she didn't like him, and never grew to like him. They
rarely fought though, and Ripley was always the perfect gentleman with her.

Introducing three year old Cav to seven year old Ripley was much easier than
expected. We kept Cav in the conservatory for the first day and night, apart
from an hour when he was allowed to explore the living room. That meant that
they could watch each other all night through the glass doors, and also get
the chance to get each other's scent. We allowed them to mix the next day,
supervised, and took Cav back to the conservatory for a 'time out' if they
got too worked up. After three days, we were leaving them alone together.
They did have some spectacular fights and screaming sessions over the next
couple of months, but they get on very well now, and seem to enjoy each
other's company.

Jeanette
Yoj - 05 Nov 2004 09:20 GMT
> > I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
> > wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
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>
> Jeanette

Thanks, Jeanette.

Joy
nospam@austin.rr.com - 05 Nov 2004 12:03 GMT
>> I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
>> wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
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>
>Jeanette

Mine still still have the occasional screaming session, and it's been
over a year.
Two of my three will be beating eachother up, hissing and screaming,
etc. an hour later they will be sleeping together and grooming
eachother.
Cats.
Ginger-lyn Summer - 05 Nov 2004 19:42 GMT
>I expect to be getting another cat in the near future - possibly next
>week.  I have always introduced additional cats to those in residence
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>
>Joy

Hi, Joy,

I've done it both ways, and a "middle" way, too (keeping cat in
carrier in living room for several hours while the others checked him
out).

I know conventional wisdom is to do it slowly, and that is the way I
have been doing it for several years now.  We have a separate room so
we can isolate the new one, and there are some good reasons for doing
this, including not knowing health status and not yet having
vaccinations done, which I think is safer in that case.  If you
already have taken care of testing and vaccinations, then those are no
longer a reason to isolate, at least.

For me, it has worked well both ways.  With Trill, for instance
(isolated) enough cats had sniffed at the door by the time he was
vaccinate and neutered and all that his introduction was easy.  Mojo
(RB) just got tossed into the soup, so to speak, and every single cat
here adored him in less than an hour.

If you spend enough time with an isolated new kitty, I think it is
okay.  Especially if it is a household with many cats, they may
actually feel safer, and have a chance to get their bearings before
having to deal with a horde of cats ;-)

At any rate, I think a lot of it has to do with individual cats'
personalities, no matter how the introductions are made.  Some will
simply never like others, while others will take to other cats like
they're known each other since birth.

Just my rambling thoughts.  Best of luck!

Ginger-lyn
O J - 06 Nov 2004 02:39 GMT
Joy wrote:

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>I don't intend to be critical of how other people do it.  I'm just
>wondering about the ramifications.  I'd appreciate any input before I
>decide for sure how I'm going to introduce the addition to my family.

We've done it both ways.  When we introduced Lady Jane to Misty, who's
long since gone where the good pussycats go, we kept Janie in the
spare bedroom for a week before allowing her the run of the house.
Misty greeted the newcomer in a most un-catlike manner.  She didn't
hiss, spit, or swat, she just ran at Lady Jane full speed and knocked
her 'a.s over teakettle'.

We've had more luck introducing kittens at a more accelerated pace and
Smokey, an adult when we got him,  joined the family rather quickly.
We've only had to take back one cat.  A breeder of Persians let her
queens go for a nominal fee after they'd had a few litters.  They'd
done well by their human, and she wanted to return the favor by
finding them good homes after she was done breeding them.  None of the
standard tricks worked, the newcomer would simply attack whichever of
the cats was closest whenever we tried to let her out of the spare
bedroom.  Poor thing, I hope she went someplace where she's the only
cat.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Adrian - 06 Nov 2004 10:58 GMT
> I expect to be getting another cat in the near future - possibly next
> week.  I have always introduced additional cats to those in residence
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>
> Joy

You've had lots of answers so I'll just send purrs that everything goes
smoothly.
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