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Pat - 04 Nov 2004 06:43 GMT
If Billy's current size and rate of growth is an indication of how large he
will be when mature, then I will probably have to replace the cat door with
one designed for d*gs.

He's got the fluffiest tail I've ever seen on a cat. So does his sister -
who, by the way, is the sweetest little girl I have ever met, she crawls up
onto my shoulder and washes my whole face. I'm lucky to get a few licks on
the hand out of Billy.

Tommy, Eli and Abelard have more or less gone to war lately, and I've been
trying to figure out why. I'm starting to think Lily's the cause. She's
getting close to the age of first heat, they know it, and are trying to
drive the other "toms" (all are neutered but seem not to realize it) off so
they can have Lily to themselves.

I hate the thought of having to take these two to TED for the operation.
Especially the girl. If anything went wrong during the surgery I'd never
forgive myself.
Karen Chuplis - 04 Nov 2004 13:02 GMT
> If Billy's current size and rate of growth is an indication of how large he
> will be when mature, then I will probably have to replace the cat door with
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> Especially the girl. If anything went wrong during the surgery I'd never
> forgive myself.

They'll be OK and they will be MUCH happier. New pics?
Pat - 04 Nov 2004 17:36 GMT
> They'll be OK and they will be MUCH happier. New pics?

Sorry about that. I'm just not very happy with my el cheapo digicam that
can't focus on a moving subject at all. And I have been way too busy for my
own good. But I will *eventually* get new pics taken and posted.
Marina - 04 Nov 2004 14:29 GMT
> If Billy's current size and rate of growth is an indication of how large he
> will be when mature, then I will probably have to replace the cat door with
> one designed for d*gs.

Another huge kitten. I think the Mothership must be up to something,
sending all these huge kittens to various parts of the States. There's
Billy, and Sammy and the Hube. Be afraid, Merkins, be very afraid. ;o)

> I hate the thought of having to take these two to TED for the operation.
> Especially the girl. If anything went wrong during the surgery I'd never
> forgive myself.

Lots of purrs for the operations. They'll come through it swimmingly,
and the boys will calm down when Lily doesn't emit her enticing female
odours any longer.

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Kreisleriana - 04 Nov 2004 15:17 GMT
>> If Billy's current size and rate of growth is an indication of how large he
>> will be when mature, then I will probably have to replace the cat door with
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>sending all these huge kittens to various parts of the States. There's
>Billy, and Sammy and the Hube. Be afraid, Merkins, be very afraid. ;o)

Bring 'em on!  ;)

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CatNipped - 05 Nov 2004 00:26 GMT
> Another huge kitten. I think the Mothership must be up to something,
> sending all these huge kittens to various parts of the States. There's
> Billy, and Sammy and the Hube. Be afraid, Merkins, be very afraid. ;o)

Speaking of Hubert, has anyone heard from Krista lately?  I'd love to see
recent photos of the Hube!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Kreisleriana - 05 Nov 2004 00:57 GMT
>> Another huge kitten. I think the Mothership must be up to something,
>> sending all these huge kittens to various parts of the States. There's
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>
>CatNipped

BOOP!

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Ted Davis - 04 Nov 2004 14:41 GMT
>If Billy's current size and rate of growth is an indication of how large he
>will be when mature, then I will probably have to replace the cat door with
>one designed for d*gs.

I have a very large alpha male (he's three feet long), a seriously
obese large male (17.5 pounds), and a visiting obese large male - all
manage to get through the 7.5 inch square hole in the back wall with
no difficulty.  It's amusing to watch Tigger go through it since he is
significantly wider than the hole: his fat redistributes to pretty
much fill the square opening - he may be at just about the maximum
size limit for a hole of that size and shape.

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Cheryl Perkins - 04 Nov 2004 14:48 GMT
> I have a very large alpha male (he's three feet long), a seriously
> obese large male (17.5 pounds), and a visiting obese large male - all
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> much fill the square opening - he may be at just about the maximum
> size limit for a hole of that size and shape.

Betsy, a sturdy, although not exceptionally big, cat, managed to squeeze
through the tiny gap left at the bottom of the gate to her cat carrier by
a bent part of the latch. I still don't quite believe she did it, but
there was no one else around except Mandy, in another cat carrier, and
Betsy, who had previously been inside the carrier was then outside. And
the door was still latched closed.

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Seanette Blaylock - 04 Nov 2004 18:06 GMT
Cheryl Perkins <cperkins@mun.ca> had some very interesting things to
say about Re: We'll need a larger cat flap:

>Betsy, a sturdy, although not exceptionally big, cat, managed to squeeze
>through the tiny gap left at the bottom of the gate to her cat carrier by
>a bent part of the latch. I still don't quite believe she did it, but
>there was no one else around except Mandy, in another cat carrier, and
>Betsy, who had previously been inside the carrier was then outside. And
>the door was still latched closed.

She must have used the Schrodinger technique [transform from solid cat
to cloud of probability, then reverse transformation once outside the
carrier :-)].

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Ted Davis - 04 Nov 2004 22:30 GMT
>She must have used the Schrodinger technique [transform from solid cat
>to cloud of probability, then reverse transformation once outside the
>carrier :-)].

That's called "quantum tunneling".  Unfortunately, an object's wave
function's size is inversely proportional to its mass: a very light
object such as an electron has a large volume relative to its size in
which it can be with non-zero probability, but massive object such as
cats have wave functions so small that they really can't be anywhere
but where they are.  Fortunately for cats, and unfortunately for their
humans, cats don't know this so they do it anyway..

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Dan M - 04 Nov 2004 18:33 GMT
> Betsy, a sturdy, although not exceptionally big, cat, managed to squeeze
> through the tiny gap left at the bottom of the gate to her cat carrier by
> a bent part of the latch. I still don't quite believe she did it, but
> there was no one else around except Mandy, in another cat carrier, and
> Betsy, who had previously been inside the carrier was then outside. And
> the door was still latched closed.

When Nancy and I picked up Amelia at the Petsmart adoption center as a
kitten, we had been living together for a few months and were going to
be married in a couple more months. We had an 18 year old and a 17 year
old living with us, so we weren't really keen in leaving the bedroom
door open at night to let the kitties pass freely :) so we installed a
kitty flap in our bedroom door. Everybody fit through it just fine.

When we moved a couple years later to the rental we're in now, we
installed the same size kitty flap in the back door, giving the kitties
access to the kitty-proofed back yard. Amelia, no longer a kitty and
being rather fond of the food dish, is no longer able to dash through
the cat flap at full tilt. She now comes to a stop and has to stretch
her frame to get the whole kitty to squeeze through. In fact, she will
usually sit in front of the door and stare until one of us opens the
door itself so she doesn't have to use the cat flap.

On the other hand, when we first got Amelia she was the tiniest little
thing I had ever seen. One time when I went into the bathroom I closed
the door before she could join me. I heard scratches and meows at the
door, followed by little tortie-colored paws reaching under the door.
After close to a minute of typical kitten antics, Amelia crawled UNDER
the bathroom door! It's not like it's hung with a huge gap; she was just
so tiny that she was able to get her entire self through that little
gap. It was amazing!

Dan
Pat - 04 Nov 2004 19:20 GMT
> I have a very large alpha male (he's three feet long), a seriously
> obese large male (17.5 pounds), and a visiting obese large male - all
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> much fill the square opening - he may be at just about the maximum
> size limit for a hole of that size and shape.

Biggest cats ever to grace my life were Cotton and his brother Safford, both
Maine Coons.

I've mentioned these guys a few times in this NG. They came to me as
10-week-old kittens. As they grew, they were very very shy around anyone
other than me and the ex. Coton topped out at 18 lbs. none of which was
excess fat. Safford was only slightly lighter. They were two years younger
than Whitefoot.

Cotton is the one that vanished while boarding with friends during my 1999
trip to Hawai'i with the ex. We never found out what happened to him. Ever
since then I dream of him from time to time, and I've seen him in dreams
several times this past week.

Yesterday, driving home from town, I glimpsed a large white cat running into
the woods about a mile from the house. I like to think it was either Cotton
or his spirit, still trying to find his way back to his meowmie ;(

Safford was killed by a passing motorist in February 2000, less than a year
after Cotton disappeared. Whitefoot and his last surviving feline companion,
Miss Kitty, both died of cytauxzoonosis felis in August 2000, leaving me
cat-less until I after I moved into the mouse-infested mobile home on
Gloria's farm and she gave me Tubs and Baby Eyes, the two orphan kittens she
had hand raised.

When Tubs was about 6 months old he decided to go back and live with Gloria,
leaving Baby Eyes without a kitty companion. That's when I adopted Tommy,
followed in rapid succession by Eli and Abelard.
Kreisleriana - 04 Nov 2004 23:39 GMT
>> I have a very large alpha male (he's three feet long), a seriously
>> obese large male (17.5 pounds), and a visiting obese large male - all
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>excess fat. Safford was only slightly lighter. They were two years younger
>than Whitefoot.

Awww.  I catsitted (catsat?) for some big cats.  The biggest were
George and Fred, two Himalayan monsters.  They were not merely fat,
just HUGE-- both around 25 pounds, quite long and tall  (AND fluffy).
Two 25 pound cats sitting on the counter, "helping" while you're
trying to do something, is a somewhat different experience from a
couple of normal (?) ten pound cats doing the same thing. ;)  They
were always making a racket, too.

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Sherry - 04 Nov 2004 15:01 GMT
>If Billy's current size and rate of growth is an indication of how large he
>will be when mature, then I will probably have to replace the cat door with
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>Especially the girl. If anything went wrong during the surgery I'd never
>forgive myself.

Awww! They sound so c-uuute! Does Lily still lay on her back?
I always hated the thought of taking them in for neutering too. I was always so
glad when it was over with.  Is it real expensive where you live?

Sherry
Pat - 04 Nov 2004 17:34 GMT
> Does Lily still lay on her back?

Sometimes. She does it less as the weather (and my floor) chills.

> I always hated the thought of taking them in for neutering too. I was always so
> glad when it was over with.  Is it real expensive where you live?

Last one done here was Abelard, about two years ago, somewhere in the
$30-$45 range I can't recall exactly.

Since that time a few people have spoken ill of the vet I normally use, in
Ava, and although I haven't had a problem with him I don't want to take a
chance so I'll probably take these two up to the Whetstone clinic in Mtn.
Grove. One of our neighbors swears by their service. I haven't called them
yet to ask their fee or make an app't. Will do it soon....

I would certainly never go back to Dr. Wright in Mansfield who's the one
that misdiagnosed the illness that killed my beloved Whitefoot less than 24
hours after been seen by that idiot, who told me the reason my baby was
suddenly losing the ability to walk straight was *worms*.
 
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