The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a
gallon of water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well
and makes sure they have enough water for about five days between
refills - but they keep tipping over and half a gallon of water on the
bathroom floor makes an unspeakable mess when it mixes with the stray
kibble and cat litter that's been scratched out of the box...
My short-term solution was to stand the dish in a square plastic
cake-container... that kept Tessie from knocking it over for about six
months, but now she's big and strong enough that she can knock it over
anyway! I've found it tipped over five times in the last three weeks!
I thought they were spilling it when they were fighting/squabbling but
it was fine this morning when I refilled the feeder, and an hour later
I came back and it was upside down and nobody had made a SOUND...
Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish? At this point I
don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
wits end!
jofirey - 15 Jun 2007 16:55 GMT
> The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a
> gallon of water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well
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> don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
> wits end!
I don't know how many cats you have, but for starters I'd give them a lot
less water to play with. If they are knocking it over they have killed the
whole point of having a long term supply because you can't leave now and be
sure they have water.
Ours get fresh water two places in the house and two places outside twice a
day. OK one outside is a dripping faucet but they love it. It has a bowl
under it when the dog isn't carrying it around the yard. Must find stone
bowl. The other is the birdbath. All the cats in the neighborhood drink
from that. Inside are two glasses. It they spill, it isn't much to clean
up.
I'd go crazy with the feeder trying to keep it clean enough. The inside
dishes go through the dishwasher after a half day use.
Before anyone thinks I'm a neat freak, I haven't scooped the litter box in a
week.
If I were having a tipping problem I'd get the bowls at the pet store that
don't have a rounded bottom.
Jo
Debbie Wilson - 15 Jun 2007 16:57 GMT
> Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish? At this point I
> don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
> wits end!
I use a dog bowl for mine - it is shaped like this and so is almost
untippable:
<http://www.fabpets.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=14&products_id=
58&osCsid=2172851ff43f7118238341015c79f8cf>
(watch out for the line wrap on that link)
HTH
Deb.

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Cheryl Perkins - 15 Jun 2007 17:36 GMT
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> Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish? At this point I
> don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
> wits end!
I used low, bottom-heavy pans and bowls until Sam (thankfully) lost some
of his obsession with water. At one point, the cats were drinking out of a
smallish but very expensive cooking pot with a very thick bottom that was
probably the most expensive cat-watering container in city!
I don't need long-term water supply as I check it regularly and refill as
necessary. And Sam has lost a little of his obsession and now mostly
leaves a perfectly ordinary bowl in place and upright - although he'll
still come running if he hears running water.

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mlbriggs - 15 Jun 2007 18:24 GMT
> The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a gallon of
> water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well and makes sure
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> Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish? At this point I don't
> care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my wits end!
I have given up on the Petsmate because TuTu has trouble jumping to the
bathroom counter. I now use a small dishpan in the tub. I also have a
small dishpan in the shower stall If any spills occur, it doesn't
matter. When filled to the top, the dishpan is too heavy for her to move.
It works! MLB
MaryL - 15 Jun 2007 19:00 GMT
> The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a
> gallon of water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
> wits end!
I don't know about a nontippable water bowl, but Holly used to love to play
with the water in her bowl. She wouldn't tip it over, but she would stand
there vigorously batting it -- and all the water was on the floor within a
matter of minutes. I solved it by getting one of those vegetable bins (made
by Rubbermaid or some similar company), the type where three sides are high
to hold veggies and one side is low so you can easily reach inside. I
placed a heavy ceramic bowl inside the veggie bin. Both Holly and Duffy
drank readily from it, and it pretty much eliminated play time. If she did
play with it, the water would be held inside the vinyl veggie bin instead of
on the floor. (As she got older, she stopped doing that -- so now I can
just place the two heavy ceramic bowls in separate rooms, and I don't have
to do anything to prevent water spray.)
MaryL
Christina Websell - 15 Jun 2007 19:25 GMT
> Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish? At this point I
> don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
> wits end!
Yes. Forget the fancy cat thingies and buy a heavy pottery open water dish
that is designed for large dogs.
Mine have these because I had them already. Works well for us. Hope this
helps.
Tweed
jofirey - 15 Jun 2007 21:58 GMT
>> Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish? At this point I
>> don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
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>
> Tweed
I have to get one of those for Kayla. I never dreamed when I got the
current one she would get big and strong enough to carry it around.
Jo
Chakolate - 15 Jun 2007 20:56 GMT
> The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a
> gallon of water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well
> and makes sure they have enough water for about five days between
> refills - but they keep tipping over and half a gallon of water on the
> bathroom floor makes an unspeakable mess when it mixes with the stray
> kibble and cat litter that's been scratched out of the box...
I use a glass 8 inch round cake pan. (Then there's another bowl in the
sink, but I don't care if that one tips over.) They can both drink out
of it at once, although they don't often. And when Pi gets bored, he can
take his pet q-tip for a swim. ;-)
Chak

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Ted Davis - 15 Jun 2007 21:08 GMT
>The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a
>gallon of water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well
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>don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
>wits end!
Large dog size ceramic or wide base stainless steel bowl. The SS bowl
I have in mind is stamped from sheet metal sort of line it started out
as a cone, then the top was pushed down into the base - the base is
much wider than the bowl. The ceramic bowl I use is labeled "dog",
weighs several pounds, and holds about half a gallon. The SS bowl is
used for food. Neither has been tipped over by any of the fifteen
cats in the last five years, though I have broken one of the ceramic
bowls by washing it in hot water.
You really should change the water more often than every five days.

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Karen AKA Kajikit - 15 Jun 2007 22:11 GMT
>>The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a
>>gallon of water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well
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>
>You really should change the water more often than every five days.
The water container is anti-bacterial plastic and it never gets
icky... which is one of the reasons I like it! Besides, Tessie drinks
out of the TOILET - how fussy can she be?!
I caught her in the bathroom again today, trying to tip the water
container over. I had thought that maybe it was happening by accident,
or she was fighting with Scouty and somebody was getting knocked into
it, but nope - it's a deliberate action because she likes to play in
the water and she wants to hear the gurgling noise! Little brat!
The problem with ceramic dishes was that she stands in them and tips
them over, or noses them across the floor until they run into
something and tip... she just adores splashing in water and especially
running water! The water feeder was supposed to be heavy enough for
her not to mess with it... and I HAVE to have water out at floorlevel
because Scouty doesn't climb much. :(
Christina Websell - 15 Jun 2007 23:32 GMT
>>You really should change the water more often than every five days.
>
> The water container is anti-bacterial plastic and it never gets
> icky... which is one of the reasons I like it! Besides, Tessie drinks
> out of the TOILET - how fussy can she be?!
I don't like to drink water that is more than one day old and I don't expect
my cats to, either. If you flush your toilet several times a day, that
water is fresh and it should send you a message whether or not your cats
like fresh water.
> The problem with ceramic dishes was that she stands in them and tips
> them over, or noses them across the floor until they run into
> something and tip
She will not be able to tip over or nose a heavy dog dish. If she stands in
it just refill it with fresh water. And tell her off when she does. "Get out
of there" said a bit harshly with a slight nudge of encouragement to get out
applied a few times can work.
I don't buy in to letting cats do exactly as they want to if it's a
nuisance. It's a bstd cat trick they do to pretend they have to do this and
cannot behave otherwise. Of course they can.
Tweed
Ted Davis - 16 Jun 2007 03:12 GMT
>The problem with ceramic dishes was that she stands in them and tips
>them over, or noses them across the floor until they run into
>something and tip... she just adores splashing in water and especially
>running water! The water feeder was supposed to be heavy enough for
>her not to mess with it... and I HAVE to have water out at floorlevel
>because Scouty doesn't climb much. :(
Place the bowl where the cats can see a reflection of a light bulb in
the water - that seems to reduce the bowl pushing. One of these large
dog bowls with half a gallon of water in it weights as much as some
cats, and with the vertical sides, is extremely difficult to turn
over. Non-slip shelf liner under such a heavy bowl should make
pushing nearly impossible. My ceramic water bowl is 10 inches in
outside diameter, 9 inches inside, and 4 inches high. The SS pan is
13 inches across at the base, 10 inches at the top, and is about 3.25
inches high. I have found that the SS pan doesn't work as well as the
bowl with respect to pushing and pulling, but makes a great food bowl:
I drop the empty pan on the floor, then pour it full of kibble - the
noise works like a dinner bell - cats come from several hundred feet
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Jun 2007 22:18 GMT
> The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a
> gallon of water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
> wits end!
You mean one with a reservoire, I take it. There ARE
"non-tippable" dishes that work quite well (although they're
usually made of plastic), but if the kind with the water
bottle isn't stable enough so they can't tip it, I don't
know what to suggest!
Sjouke Burry - 16 Jun 2007 03:24 GMT
> The cats have one of those 'watering stations' that holds half a
> gallon of water and gravity-feeds it into their dish... it works well
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
> wits end!
Glue it onto a square foot piece of plywood.
If the cat is smart enough to turn that over,
it belongs in the genius class.
Debra - 18 Jun 2007 15:20 GMT
>Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish? At this point I
>don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
>wits end!
I don't know if you still need this, but maybe someone could use the
idea.
We have two bowls the cats can't turn over. One is molded plastic and
looks rather like a bowl on a tray, but it is a pain to use because
the bowl part is so small it has to be filled often, and cleaning the
18 inch across thing is a pain. The other is home made with a
removable bowl, is easily cleaned and holds more water. The bowl can't
be turned over by the cats, but is easily removed from the tray to
wash and refill.
You will need three things:
large round plastic beverage serving tray--dollar store variety is
fine
flat bottomed bowl--we used the Crock brand pet food bowl we had
some peel and stick Heavy Duty Velcro
Turn bowl upside down and cut two lengths of the Velcro to fit across
the bottom, leave both "sides" of the Velcro stuck to each other. Peel
one side of joined Velcro to expose the glue and then apply to bottom
of bowl, just off center. Apply the second length next to the first.
Now peel other side of both lengths to expose the glue, hold bowl
right side up, and apply bowl to the center of the tray by pressing it
down firmly.
The reason it works is that the cat must have front paws on the tray
to be able to reach the bowl, and the Velcro holds the bowl to the
tray. The tray itself is too wide a base for the cat to lift and turn
over.
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 18 Jun 2007 23:06 GMT
> Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish?
You could just plumb in an extra toilet.
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Karen AKA Kajikit - 19 Jun 2007 17:13 GMT
>>Is there any such thing as a non-tippable waterdish? At this point I
>>don't care how much it costs... I need an answer because I'm at my
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>to be able to reach the bowl, and the Velcro holds the bowl to the
>tray. The tray itself is too wide a base for the cat to lift and turn
I did wonder about glueing their water dish to the floor somehow, but
I couldn't think of a waterproof removable glue... I'll have a look at
the dollar tree and see what they've got in stock just now - that
sounds like a much more elegant (and cheap) solution than a
twenty-dollar dog bowl. We've already thrown enough money at this
problem without a solution in sight!