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Sherry - 12 Jun 2007 19:09 GMT I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?)
Anyway, can someone tell me what it looks liike? Bosley has something weird on his chin. It looked like dirt stuck in the fur, but after trying to get it off, it's more like tiny scabs.
He doesn't eat out of a plastic bowl, but his facial structure is so that he has a very long muzzle and big head, so I'm sure his chin gets in the food. I scrubbed it all off with a hot soapy cloth, or did the best I could for as long as he would put up with it. Is there anything else you can do?
Sherry
Joy - 12 Jun 2007 19:15 GMT >I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sherry That sounds like what Nanki-Poo had, which the vet called acne. In his case, it was from eating out of a plastic dish. The vet gave me some medicine to put on it. Your vet might also have some suggestions. The dish issue was all she mentioned to me, but as soon as I said he ate out of a plastic dish, she assumed that was it, and she was right. If I had said no, she might have suggested something else.
Joy
Sherry - 12 Jun 2007 19:16 GMT > >I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Joy Joy, do you remember what the vet gave you to put on it? I have some Panalog and also the vet-version of Bacitracin. I'm just leery of putting anything so close to his mouth.
Sherry
Matthew - 12 Jun 2007 19:30 GMT >> >I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Sherry Sherry Spirit gets it I give it a easy scrub and get all the junk out of it. Than I put some Vaseline on it to help it heal. He is not happy about the Vaseline but the medication he is allergic to it is worse on him
Kreisleriana - 12 Jun 2007 19:47 GMT >> >I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Sherry Sherry, you might want to put a little peroxide on a cotton ball, and wipe down his chin with that a couple of times a week.
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Sherry - 12 Jun 2007 22:24 GMT > >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Theresa > Stinky Pictures:http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh That's a good idea. Trace amounts of peroxide wouldn't hurt him, even if he licked it before it evaporated. Same with vaseline (thanks Matthew). Thanks to everybody for the responses. This is weird. Out of 5 cats, and even the RB ones, we never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel like a parent who's kid has impetigo or head lice or something)
Sherry
Matthew - 12 Jun 2007 22:42 GMT >> >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Sherry Same here you feel like every parent feels. I find that it is the water bowls that cause spirits problems. For some reason he taps the water dish to make the water shake before he drinks but still manages to get a face full of water. I think it has something to do with him being to young when I rescued him from the hawk
Matthew - 12 Jun 2007 22:42 GMT >> >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Sherry Also you are very welcome :-)
Kreisleriana - 12 Jun 2007 22:44 GMT >> >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >Sherry You've just had a lot of luck. This is a very common thing. Some cats seem more susceptible to it than others. Stinky occasionally has a minor breakout. So far I've never seen a trace of it on Dante.
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Victor Martinez - 12 Jun 2007 22:51 GMT > never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel > like a parent who's kid > has impetigo or head lice or something)
:) I know the feeling... I'm afraid to ask, what is impetigo?
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Matthew - 12 Jun 2007 22:57 GMT >> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel >> like a parent who's kid >> has impetigo or head lice or something) > > :) I know the feeling... I'm afraid to ask, what is impetigo? BE WARNED YOU ASKED
an acute contagious staphylococcal or streptococcal skin disease characterized by vesicles, pustules, and yellowish crusts
http://www.healthline.com/adamcontent/impetigo?utm_term=impetigo&utm_medium=mw&u tm_campaign=article
Sherry - 12 Jun 2007 23:34 GMT > > never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel > > like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Send your spam here: u...@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLIT...@BOXaustin.rr.com LOL! Victor, I honestly don't know. It was something my mother told me I'd catch if I put my pencil in my mouth at school. ;-) I remember kids who had it weren't allowed to come to class for a long time. They were, unfortunately, usually the poor children. I don't know why that is.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 13 Jun 2007 17:56 GMT >>>never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel >>>like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > were, unfortunately, usually the poor children. I don't know why that > is. I'm not sure what it is, either. I remember a few kids in my grade-school classes used to get it - at least on their hands. They weren't kept home, but attended classes as usual, but the medication used to treat it stained their skin purple, so I always associated the color with the disease.
Adrian A - 13 Jun 2007 10:07 GMT >> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel >> like a parent who's kid >> has impetigo or head lice or something) > > :) I know the feeling... I'm afraid to ask, what is impetigo? Once you asked I got curious. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/impetigo/DS00464/DSECTION=1
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Joy - 13 Jun 2007 10:37 GMT >>> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel >>> like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Once you asked I got curious. > http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/impetigo/DS00464/DSECTION=1 My little brother had impetigo when he was about two and I was five. The main thing I remembered about it was the purple liquid the doctor prescribed for my mother to put on the sores. Many years later, my son, who was about three at the time, had it, and my doctor prescribed the same purple liquid.
Joy
Adrian A - 13 Jun 2007 13:23 GMT >>>> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I >>>> feel like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joy That sounds like Gentian violet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentian_violet
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 13 Jun 2007 13:54 GMT >> My little brother had impetigo when he was about two and I was >> five. The main thing I remembered about it was the purple liquid [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That sounds like Gentian violet. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentian_violet They use fucidin for impetigo these days - colourless and a lot more effective, but very toxic.
I had gentian violet for a fungal infection of the groin once. It gets EVERYWHERE. My underpants went purple, my fingers went purple, the bottom of my T-shirt went purple, and I left an enormous purple ring behind in the bath. It's pretty safe but a cat treated with it would have your neighbours heading for the shrink in droves thinking they were hallucinating.
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Ketzl's Dad - 13 Jun 2007 14:12 GMT > I had gentian violet for a fungal infection of the groin once. It > gets EVERYWHERE. My underpants went purple, my fingers went purple, > the bottom of my T-shirt went purple, and I left an enormous purple > ring behind in the bath. It's pretty safe but a cat treated with it > would have your neighbours heading for the shrink in droves thinking > they were hallucinating. I never saw a purple cat; I hope I never see one. But one thing I can say is that I'd rather see than be one.
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Ketzl's Dad - 13 Jun 2007 14:25 GMT >> I had gentian violet for a fungal infection of the groin once. It >> gets EVERYWHERE. My underpants went purple, my fingers went purple, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > But one thing I can say is that > I'd rather see than be one. PS: With apologies to Ogden Nash. He can't kill me because I didn't really quote him.
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Joy - 13 Jun 2007 18:45 GMT >> I had gentian violet for a fungal infection of the groin once. It >> gets EVERYWHERE. My underpants went purple, my fingers went purple, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > But one thing I can say is that > I'd rather see than be one. LOL! GMTA. See my post.
Joy
Joy - 13 Jun 2007 18:44 GMT >>> My little brother had impetigo when he was about two and I was >>> five. The main thing I remembered about it was the purple liquid [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 > 557 Maybe somebody would write a poem:
I never saw a purple cat ...
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Joy - 13 Jun 2007 18:43 GMT >>>>> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I >>>>> feel like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > That sounds like Gentian violet. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentian_violet The name rings a bell. That's probably what it was.
Joy
Kreisleriana - 13 Jun 2007 14:58 GMT >>>> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel >>>> like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Joy That stuff was tincture of gentian violet. It was prescribed for me for a case of trench mouth when I was a toddler. I stood still for a couple of applications, then I grabbed the bottle and ran around the house spraying it all over until it was empty. It made indelible deep purple stains all over the place. ;)
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Sherry - 13 Jun 2007 15:33 GMT > >>>> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel > >>>> like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Theresa > Stinky Pictures:http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Ha ha. Remember this next time Stinky "makes art" out of your furniture or miniblinds. It's like they say, "You're payin' for your raisin' " I remember the purple stuff too. No wonder I thought there was such a stigma about trenchmouth & impetigo, with a semipermanent tatoo as the remedy. (my daughter had it when she was a kid too--and I've got a purple- mouth picture still. I'd say THRUSH. It's THRUSH. Somehow that sounded better)
Sherry
Kreisleriana - 13 Jun 2007 15:54 GMT >> >>>> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel >> >>>> like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >furniture or miniblinds. It's like >they say, "You're payin' for your raisin' " Fortunately, neither of my guys are artistic in that way. ;)
>I remember the purple stuff too. No wonder I thought there was such a >stigma about trenchmouth & impetigo, >with a semipermanent tatoo as the remedy. >(my daughter had it when she was a kid too--and I've got a purple- >mouth picture still. > I'd say THRUSH. It's THRUSH. Somehow that sounded better) Like she has a bird in her mouth? ;)
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Adrian A - 13 Jun 2007 15:35 GMT >>>>> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I >>>>> feel like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Make Levees, Not War I'm sure you were too cute to kill. ;-)
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Kreisleriana - 13 Jun 2007 15:52 GMT >>>>>> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I >>>>>> feel like a parent who's kid [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >I'm sure you were too cute to kill. ;-) I'm still here. ;)
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 13 Jun 2007 18:05 GMT >>That stuff was tincture of gentian violet. It was prescribed for me >>for a case of trench mouth when I was a toddler. I stood still for a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I'm sure you were too cute to kill. ;-) .....Or too fast to catch! :-)
Karen AKA Kajikit - 15 Jun 2007 00:16 GMT >> never had chin acne. And I *do* provide clean bowls, I swear! (I feel >> like a parent who's kid >> has impetigo or head lice or something) > >:) I know the feeling... I'm afraid to ask, what is impetigo? Cradlecap Victor... it's all crusty and yellow and gross-looking and you have to wash it with special shampoo to make it go away. One of my cousins had it once (and no she wasn't a baby...)
Jack Campin - bogus address - 15 Jun 2007 00:51 GMT >> I'm afraid to ask, what is impetigo? > Cradlecap Victor... it's all crusty and yellow and gross-looking and > you have to wash it with special shampoo to make it go away. One of my > cousins had it once (and no she wasn't a baby...) Much more serious than that. It's a contagious bacterial skin infection, causes large areas of raw oozing and spreads very fast. It's the same organism and disease process as necrotizing fasciitis except that it happens in the skin rather than deeper inside.
Googling will tell you more than you want to know. But I rather liked this ad served up by Google UK when I asked it:
Pictures Of Impetigo Great deals on decorative ornaments Feed your passion on eBay.co.uk!
I've seen cases much worse than most of the Google Image results.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 15 Jun 2007 01:25 GMT > Pictures Of Impetigo > Great deals on decorative ornaments Things that Weren't Meant to Go Together! :)
Joy - 13 Jun 2007 02:04 GMT >> >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Sherry Nanki-Poo is the only one of the nine cats I've had who got it.
Joy
Sherry - 13 Jun 2007 03:13 GMT > >> >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > Joy Well, that's good to know. We finally have an infection/fungus/ infestation/ailment that isn't contagious! It's a barrel of laughs, as I'm sure everybody knows, to deal with ringworm, or something like tapeworms in a multicat household. At least this isn't like that. I got an e-mail from a friend who just read an article about chin acne. It said there are new findings that suggest plastic may not be the culprit after all. What was also helpful was that the article suggested using human-acne treatments such as Stridex medicated pads. That makes sense, and I don't think any residual left on his chin, if he happened to lick it, would probably hurt him. Except now he smells like a teenager.
Sherry Sherry
Joy - 13 Jun 2007 03:25 GMT >> >> >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > > Sherry Plastic may not be the culprit, but Nanki-Poo hasn't had it since I switched to ceramic and metal dishes.
Joy
Sherry - 13 Jun 2007 03:30 GMT > >> "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 89 lines] > > Joy- A lot of people say that so there must be some validity to it. But what I was thinking was, it can't be the sole method of the bacteria transfer, since Bozzy has never had a plastic dish. OMG. It just hit me. The water bowl is Correlle, which is probably the same thing as plastic. I was just thinking about food bowls.
Sherry
William Hamblen - 13 Jun 2007 04:50 GMT >The water bowl is Correlle, which is probably the >same thing as >plastic. Corelle is glass.
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 13 Jun 2007 11:57 GMT > I got an e-mail from a friend who just read an article about chin > acne. It said there are new findings that suggest plastic may not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > if he happened to lick it, would probably hurt him. Except now he > smells like a teenager. This is informative: http://www.vetinfo4cats.com/cacne.html
I could imagine a problem with using pads - the stuff might dry out, you apply more, that dries out and you end up with too high a concentration of benzoyl peroxide on the cat's skin. They're more sensitive to it than we are.
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Joy - 12 Jun 2007 20:35 GMT >> >I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Sherry It's called Virbac. I can understand your concern.
Joy
jofirey - 12 Jun 2007 19:57 GMT >I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sherry That's cat acne.
No plastic dishes of course. Keep his food and water containers very clean. Wipe his chin with a warn damp cloth a couple of times a day.
And heck, I used Neosporin of Molly when she came with chin acne. It healed right up. I rubbed it in with a very soft clean toothbrush.
Jo
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 12 Jun 2007 23:24 GMT > I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) > > Anyway, can someone tell me what it looks liike? Bosley has something > weird on his chin. It looked > like dirt stuck in the fur, but after trying to get it off, it's more > like tiny scabs. A couple of my white cats had it (very visible against the white fur and pink skin). IIRC, it looks like they had blackheads. Mine DID eat out of plastic bowls, and it disappeared after I switched to stainless steel. Dunno what to advise, in your case.
badwilson - 14 Jun 2007 01:37 GMT Vino gets chin acne almost immediately if I'm ever lazy and don't wash his canned food dish for a long time with very hot water and lots of soap between every single meal. He has stainless steel dishes too but he must be susceptible to just the smallest amount of bacteria. What it looks like is a black dot on the chin and when you move the fur around you can see a little bit of stuff sticking out. Usually I squeeze gently and a *huge* bit pops out, like a waxy whitehead. It's very icky. I gently wash his chin with warm soapy water and off he goes. I've found that obsessive food dish cleaning is the only way to prevent it from happening.
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> I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sherry Kreisleriana - 14 Jun 2007 02:18 GMT >Vino gets chin acne almost immediately if I'm ever lazy and don't wash >his canned food dish for a long time with very hot water and lots of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I've found that obsessive food dish cleaning is the only way to prevent >it from happening. Ewwwwwwwwww. Eeeeewwww Ewwwwwww eeeeWwwwwwwwweewwwwwww!
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 14 Jun 2007 02:25 GMT That's gross, but he's a very good kitty to let you do it!
How's the house coming along?
Joyce
> Vino gets chin acne almost immediately if I'm ever lazy and don't wash > his canned food dish for a long time with very hot water and lots of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I've found that obsessive food dish cleaning is the only way to prevent > it from happening.
> > I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Sherry
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badwilson - 15 Jun 2007 02:57 GMT > That's gross, but he's a very good kitty to let you do it! Yes, he's practically an angel when it comes to that sort of thing. I really believe his father was a Ragdoll and not a Birman!
> How's the house coming along? Baby's got roof! Wheeee!
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> Joyce > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>> >>> Sherry Magic Mood Jeep - 14 Jun 2007 02:31 GMT > Vino gets chin acne almost immediately if I'm ever lazy and don't wash his > canned food dish for a long time with very hot water and lots of soap [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I've found that obsessive food dish cleaning is the only way to prevent it > from happening. I bet if they didn't have fur, some of those Biore' Clear Pore Strips (http://www.biore.com/usa/products/productInfo.asp?productId=10) would work on the cats PDQ. If you could get the cat to hold still long enough for one to become effective...
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badwilson - 15 Jun 2007 02:58 GMT >> Vino gets chin acne almost immediately if I'm ever lazy and don't >> wash his canned food dish for a long time with very hot water and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > would work on the cats PDQ. If you could get the cat to hold still > long enough for one to become effective... Not even needed since only the gentlest squeeze is needed and it all pops out.
> Oh, and > > EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWw Heh, yeah. My name is Britta and I pop my cat's zits ;-) LOL!
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Sherry - 14 Jun 2007 03:11 GMT > Vino gets chin acne almost immediately if I'm ever lazy and don't wash > his canned food dish for a long time with very hot water and lots of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > overflow. > Check out pictures of Vino at:http://picasaweb.google.com/badwilson YES, Britta, that's exactly what it is like. Thanks for the info.
Sherry
John Ross Mc Master - 14 Jun 2007 03:34 GMT >I remember someone here talking about chin acne. (Was it Vino?) > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Sherry At our shelter we use a topical cleanser. You are doing the right thing. It could take a lot of time to clear up.
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