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jmcquown - 04 Jun 2007 00:34 GMT Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. She'd just had a drink of water but the sound of ice hitting the basin got her attention. She just spent a good 5 more minutes lapping up (now) ice water. I'd heard about giving cats ice water in the summer to encourage them to drink more. This wasn't intentional or planned but it *is* hot today and apparently she approves! I guess I'll be putting ice in the fountain for the next few months :)
Jill
Ketzl's Dad - 04 Jun 2007 01:00 GMT > Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my > glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. She'd [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Ketzl definitely prefers cold water (from the fridge) to room-temperature water... he has a fountain, too, and I drop ice into it a couple of times a day.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Jun 2007 01:45 GMT >>Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my >>glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. She'd [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > water... he has a fountain, too, and I drop ice into it a couple of times a > day. I didn't think ice water was GOOD for cats! (It's not terribly good for humans, either - better merely cool or room temperature.)
jmcquown - 04 Jun 2007 01:52 GMT >>> Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes >>> from my glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > terribly good for humans, either - better merely cool or > room temperature.) Cat Fancy magazine just had several articles about keeping cats cool in the summer heat. One of the vets recommended putting ice cubes in their water so I guess it's not bad for them. I'd much rather drink ice water than tepid water, too. Of course, what I'd really like is an icy cold beer or a glass of wine ;)
Jill
MatSav - 04 Jun 2007 08:41 GMT >> I didn't think ice water was GOOD for cats! (It's not >> terribly good for humans, either - better merely cool or >> room temperature.) Indeed. In humans, the hypothalamus(sp?) gland that controls body temperature is, apparently, located close to the oesophagus ("food pipe") - so drinking something hot causes the gland to sense an increase in body temperature. The response to this is for the body to sweat, thus actually reducing skin temperature. I've seen the evidence on a thermal imaging camera. I presume the opposite is true, if you drink something very cold - like iced water.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Jun 2007 09:09 GMT > In humans, the hypothalamus(sp?) gland that controls body > temperature is, apparently, located close to the oesophagus ("food > pipe") - so drinking something hot causes the gland to sense an increase > in body temperature. The response to this is for the body to sweat, thus > actually reducing skin temperature. I've seen the evidence on a thermal > imaging camera. The hypothalamus is in the brain... and my brain is *not* near my esophagus! I can't speak for yours. :)
It's interesting, though, that a temperature-sensing organ would be right near where food is coming into the body. That's kind of like having a house's thermostat next to a heating vent - the rest of the house would end up being freezing all the time.
Joyce
Takayuki - 04 Jun 2007 09:54 GMT >The hypothalamus is in the brain... and my brain is *not* near my >esophagus! I can't speak for yours. :) It feels like my brain is near my esophagus, at least when I get an ice cream headache.
>It's interesting, though, that a temperature-sensing organ would be >right near where food is coming into the body. That's kind of like >having a house's thermostat next to a heating vent - the rest of the >house would end up being freezing all the time. It must have evolved before cooking and refrigeration. :)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Jun 2007 18:53 GMT > >The hypothalamus is in the brain... and my brain is *not* near my > >esophagus! I can't speak for yours. :)
> It feels like my brain is near my esophagus, at least when I get an > ice cream headache. Have you eaten your brain, Tak? :)
(I get ice cream headaches, too but they're usually in my eye. It's always right in the eye - ugh!)
Joyce
Joy - 04 Jun 2007 09:29 GMT >>> I didn't think ice water was GOOD for cats! (It's not >>> terribly good for humans, either - better merely cool or [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > imaging camera. I presume the opposite is true, if you drink something > very cold - like iced water. I've heard that, too. However, sweating makes me feel hotter, not cooler. When it's hot, I want to drink something ice cold. As a matter of fact, I drink ice water all day, all year round.
Joy
jmcquown - 04 Jun 2007 14:09 GMT >>>> I didn't think ice water was GOOD for cats! (It's not >>>> terribly good for humans, either - better merely cool or [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joy Me, too Joy. I have a huge insulated cup with a lid and a hole for a drinking straw and it's pretty much next to me all year round, filled with nice cold water.
Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Jun 2007 20:50 GMT >>>>I didn't think ice water was GOOD for cats! (It's not >>>>terribly good for humans, either - better merely cool or [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I've heard that, too. However, sweating makes me feel hotter, not cooler. I think that's largely dependent upon the climate in which you live. Sweating is designed to cool you by evaporation. Wearing loose-fitting garments (or a minimum of clothing) in a dry clmate like the American Southwest, it works quite well. In areas where both the humidity and the temperature are high, sweating just makes you feel sticky and miserable (as well as hot).
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Jun 2007 20:36 GMT >>>>Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes >>>>from my glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > tepid water, too. Of course, what I'd really like is an icy cold beer or a > glass of wine ;) LOL! It's odd how many people feel that way. (And yet, alcohol in any form - other than a sponge bath - makes you feel warmer!) No one would ever accuse me of being a teetotaler, but I prefer non alcoholic drinks in hot weather - either cold water or unsweetened iced tea. (Although a pitcher of Margaritas or Peach Daiquiris in suitably air-conditioned surroundings won't be refused.)
> Jill Yowie - 04 Jun 2007 02:13 GMT > Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my > glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > apparently she approves! I guess I'll be putting ice in the fountain for > the next few months :) Shmogg has always preferred warm water - the stuff at the bottom of the shower after I've finished is always the best. I must admit I prefer room temperature water to the icey stuff, because I don't like the 'ice headache' that happens otherwise. Perhaps Shmogg gets ice-headaches like his meowmie?
Yowie
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Jun 2007 20:42 GMT >>Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my >>glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > temperature water to the icey stuff, because I don't like the 'ice headache' > that happens otherwise. Perhaps Shmogg gets ice-headaches like his meowmie? In European restaurants, you can usually tell the Americans by the glasses of ice-water in front of them! Although in most parts of the world with modern refrigeration capabilities they may drink "chilled" water, only Americans insist upon the ice cubes. I guess I got out of the habit when I traveled, so just keep a bottle of water in the frig, and drink it "straight", when I'm thirsty.
Joy - 04 Jun 2007 20:57 GMT >>>Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my >>>glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I traveled, so just keep a bottle of water in the frig, and drink it > "straight", when I'm thirsty. I *really* like my water cold. I keep half-filled bottles of water in the freezer, and full bottles in the fridge. I take a bottle from the freezer and fill it from one of the bottles in the fridge. If the ice melts before I finish a bottle off, I half fill it, put it in the freezer, and take out another bottle.
Joy
jofirey - 04 Jun 2007 21:17 GMT > I *really* like my water cold. I keep half-filled bottles of water in the > freezer, and full bottles in the fridge. I take a bottle from the freezer [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Joy Same here. And when I've been in the hospital, Charlie freezes bottles of water for me and brings them in a couple of times a day. The water at our hospital tastes funny.
Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Jun 2007 22:09 GMT > In European restaurants, you can usually tell the Americans > by the glasses of ice-water in front of them! Although in > most parts of the world with modern refrigeration > capabilities they may drink "chilled" water, only Americans > insist upon the ice cubes. Well, every nationality has its quirks, I guess.
I used to drink ice water, but have also gotten out of the habit developing heightened cold-sensitivity in one of my molars, and it became painful to drink ice-cold water. So now I also refuse ice in restaurants. I usually order water to go with a meal when eating out, and you have to specify "no ice" or you'll get it automatically.
Joyce
Ketzl's Dad - 04 Jun 2007 23:38 GMT > In European restaurants, you can usually tell the Americans > by the glasses of ice-water in front of them! Although in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > when I traveled, so just keep a bottle of water in the frig, > and drink it "straight", when I'm thirsty. That's what I do, too. I always keep one full (two in there at all times.) That way I don't have to bother with ice cubes in my glass.
I got a kick out of dining out the first time I went to Europe in the summer. Since I don't like ice in my drinks it didn't bother me, but my traveling companions needed ice and asked for it often. I laughed out loud the first time I saw a waiter approaching our table with a saucer bearing one ice cube.
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Joy - 05 Jun 2007 00:14 GMT >> In European restaurants, you can usually tell the Americans >> by the glasses of ice-water in front of them! Although in [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > time I saw a waiter approaching our table with a saucer bearing one ice > cube. The first time I went to England, I was still drinking coffee and tea, so I mostly didn't worry about cold drinks. I remember one of the women in our group said, "If you ask for ice, they give you one ice cube. If you ask for lots of ice, they give you two ice cubes."
Joy
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 05 Jun 2007 07:41 GMT >>In European restaurants, you can usually tell the Americans >>by the glasses of ice-water in front of them! Although in [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > companions needed ice and asked for it often. I laughed out loud the first > time I saw a waiter approaching our table with a saucer bearing one ice cube. Yeah, I've had that happen, too! But it depends upon the restaurant - if it's one heavily patronized by tourists, you practically have to specify "no ice" (your American accent gives you away). In those more favored by the natives (which usually have better food, for less money) if you want ice you have to ask.
Ketzl's Dad - 05 Jun 2007 12:39 GMT >>> In European restaurants, you can usually tell the Americans >>> by the glasses of ice-water in front of them! Although in [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > (which usually have better food, for less money) if you want > ice you have to ask. That makes sense... we were young, carefree, seeing Europe on $5 a day (more or less; you could do so in those days) and stayed away from any place that advertised "Tourist Menu."
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 06 Jun 2007 14:51 GMT > In European restaurants, you can usually tell the Americans > by the glasses of ice-water in front of them! No, you do find a fair number of Europeans who do that. The Americans are the ones who drink glasses of *milk*. Weird.
There have been dairy-industry poster campaigns in the UK for a couple of years now, aimed at making milk look like something an adult might want to drink. They have had no effect at all that I've noticed.
I've never had a cat that liked cold drinks. They do often like trying to kill ice cubes.
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Lesley - 08 Jun 2007 19:00 GMT On 6 Jun, 06:51, Jack Campin - bogus address <b...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I've never had a cat that liked cold drinks. They do often like > trying to kill ice cubes. Same here. When the weather was so hot a few years back that the Fabulous Furballs were collapsed in the bathroom barely able to breathe and giving me a look that suggested if I wanted to ever use clippers on a cat now might be a good time, I did put some ice cubes in their water (and took it to them in the bathroom) they were only 4 months old so I was worried about them overheating kittens are such delicate things (apart from these two)
About a minute later I heard crunch! Then Thump! Then Whoosh!
the next moment an ice cube flew across the hallway with two suddenly alert kittens in hot (very hot) pursuit!
They were taking the ice cubes out and playing hockey with them!
I guess it took their mind off how hot they were
Lesley
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jofirey - 04 Jun 2007 03:02 GMT > Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my > glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jill Every night a bed time Charlie collects the water bowls and glasses from around the house and replaces them with clean bowls and glasses of ice water.
Granted sometimes this takes a while if he gets distracted etc. And Jake just about had an anxiety attack every night waiting for the arrival of the clean glass of ice water on our bathroom sink. He is fine till the glasses are collected but then he starts to die of thirst.
If cats gulped water I would worry its bad for them, but the do pretty much sip. Ice water isn't usually bad for people unless they drink it too fast or while their stomach is trying to digest food.
Kayla loves her ice water. A glass full of crushed ice and water is her special treat when I go out for breakfast. She waits in the car and the waitress gives me a "to go" glass for her.
Last thing at night she get a couple of ice cubes to chomp in her crate. She gets crated when we go to bed for the night so I can be sure the first thing she does every morning is to go outside.
Jo
Will in New Haven - 04 Jun 2007 03:31 GMT > > glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. > > She'd [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Jo Snowball, my long-ago RB d*g, used to walk over to her water bowl and just LOOK at it when I would wake up on a hot afternoon (I worked nights and we lived without air conditioning) It was never that she was out of water. The water bowl had one of those big jar feeders. I would put a little ice in the bowl itself and more in the jar feeder and she would have a nice long drink before her evening walk. Our vet said she could see nothing wroing with it.
Will in New Haven
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Mishi - 04 Jun 2007 03:41 GMT >Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my >glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. She'd [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Jill When it gets hot, I fill extra bowls of water and freeze them for my cats. That way, they have cool water for quite some time, and they don't splash as much out. I also put some ice out for my outside cats - they love it. On really hot days, I have seen them lay up against the ice bowls to cool off.
Mishi
jofirey - 04 Jun 2007 04:13 GMT >>Being too lazy to walk to the kitchen to dump out the ice cubes from my >>glass of water I dumped them in Persia's Drinkwell fountain instead. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Mishi I'd forgotten that. We freeze water in milk cartons in the summer and dump it in the bird bath,
Jo
Stormin Mormon - 05 Jun 2007 19:56 GMT When I was a kid, we used to put ice in the cat's dish. I can't remember if it made much difference to the cat.
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