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Those Trashy Neighbors!

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jmcquown - 31 May 2007 19:40 GMT
The people who lived across the street (not in the apartment complex but in
a duplex across the way and down one) who always let their cats run loose
have moved.  And yes, they took their cats with them (whew!).  Hopefully
they moved out in the country and not to a higher traffic neighborhood (this
one was bad enough).

Before they moved, all you could see next to the side of their house was a
pile of kids bikes and outdoor toys, a rusted out old grill, stuff like
that.  It was an eyesore, but I don't begrudge kids having toys and
obviously they had no place to store them.  The grill and a few other things
they could have pitched years ago.

When they moved, they took all the empty boxes and crap they didn't want and
moved it two doors down in front of an empty duplex.  Hey, they were gone,
not their problem anymore, right?  I have a direct view of this pile of
trash over my patio fence (the fence is only 3 ft. tall).  How lovely.

The garbage pickup people don't haul this sort of junk away without special
arrangments being made and for an extra fee.  So all this crap has been
sitting there for almost 2 weeks and will sit there for who knows how long.
I sure can't afford to pay to have it hauled off.  I don't know anyone who
owns a pickup truck, either.  Even if I did, I wouldn't know where to take
it.

There was a segment on the news the other night about eyesores like this and
a number to call to arrange for cleanup.  But that was for the city of
Memphis; we aren't in the city so I didn't write the number down.  I have no
idea who I could contact about this trash.

I've never left a mess like that in my life and don't understand people who
do.  Anway, good riddence to bad rubbish (the neighbors!) ;)

Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 31 May 2007 19:57 GMT
> There was a segment on the news the other night about eyesores like this and
> a number to call to arrange for cleanup.  But that was for the city of
> Memphis; we aren't in the city so I didn't write the number down.  I have no
> idea who I could contact about this trash.

I'm discovering it isn't so easy to find services like that
in an unfamiliar city!  (Phoenix must have about a dozen
telephone books, two telephone companies, and I STILL can't
get a white pages for my area, despite half a dozen calls to
the 800 number that is supposed to provide them.)  Since
uncollected trash and garbage attracts rats, I'd suggest
checking with your Health Department - if they don't handle
such things, they can tell you which authority to call.
Certainly it's the city's problem, not yours - it's just a
matter of finding the right people to contact.  (Failing
that, why not phone the channel that aired the news segment
you saw?)
jmcquown - 31 May 2007 20:17 GMT
>> There was a segment on the news the other night about eyesores like
>> this and a number to call to arrange for cleanup.  But that was for
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> that, why not phone the channel that aired the news segment
> you saw?)

I don't live in the city.  It's an unincorporated area of the county and the
news segment gave a number for an office of Memphis city government.  They
don't respond to anything outside of the city limits.  I can't call the
Memphis police to report a crime out here!

I sent the TV station  an email about this and am waiting to hear back.
Mostly I was just venting about people who do stuff like this.  I thought of
another reason they probably moved all that junk in front of another
dwelling - so their former landlord wouldn't charge them for having it all
hauled off.

Jill
Kathy - 31 May 2007 20:25 GMT
> I don't live in the city.  It's an unincorporated area of the county and the
> news segment gave a number for an office of Memphis city government.  They
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Jill

Didn't the people who live in /own the new problem site do something?
Kathy
jmcquown - 31 May 2007 20:30 GMT
>> I don't live in the city.  It's an unincorporated area of the county
>> and the news segment gave a number for an office of Memphis city
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> Didn't the people who live in /own the new problem site do something?
> Kathy

They put the trash in front of an unnoccupied duplex unit next door to them.
I doubt the owners of that property have any idea it's there.

Jill
jofirey - 31 May 2007 21:29 GMT
>>> There was a segment on the news the other night about eyesores like
>>> this and a number to call to arrange for cleanup.  But that was for
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Jill

It may get them off the hook with their old landlord, but I'm pretty sure it
is at least mega littering to move it onto someone else's property like
that.  Maybe take a look at county property records and let the owner know
what has happened.  And who was responsible.

Jo
Christina Websell - 31 May 2007 21:31 GMT
> The people who lived across the street (not in the apartment complex but
> in
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> who
> do.  Anway, good riddence to bad rubbish (the neighbors!) ;)

Over here, dumping trash away from your home is called "fly-tipping" and
it's illegal.  If it is on the street, the council must take it away, but I
am having a big problem with a little piece of land I have a mile away that
I used to keep my goats on.  No matter how much I try to fence it off, the
fences are broken down by people who want to dump their garden waste and
broken windows on it.
I am now in trouble from the council because of this fly tipping.  When I
feel much better I shall point out a) a public footpath runs alongside and
it might be their responsibility to fence it.  b) if they hadn't implemented
a new fee for disposing of garden waste and what we pay ALREADY in council
tax doesn't allow us to get rid of stuff like what we need to dispose of if
e.g. we have a new kitchen and they refuse to let us dump the old stuff,
well, it's their fault, and they need to sort it out, not me.
Does this sound logical?

Tweed
Chakolate - 31 May 2007 23:24 GMT
> I've never left a mess like that in my life and don't understand
> people who do.  Anway, good riddence to bad rubbish (the neighbors!)
> ;)

heh - if you want to bust them, send a letter (with 'please forward')
telling them you found a valuable ring on their property when you were
retrieving your cat, and could you have their address so you can send it
to them?  

Then when you get their new address, call the police and report the trash
and give them the new address.

Chak

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jmcquown - 01 Jun 2007 02:38 GMT
> When they moved, they took all the empty boxes and crap they didn't
> want and moved it two doors down in front of an empty duplex.  Hey,
> they were gone, not their problem anymore, right?  I have a direct
> view of this pile of trash over my patio fence (the fence is only 3
> ft. tall).  How lovely.

I'm on a *mission*!  I searched the County Assessors records and found the
owners of the property where the trash was dumped.  A white pages search
gave me their phone number and I left a detailed message outlining the
problem, along with my name and number and how I found them.

I'm having a little more trouble tracking down the landlord of the property
the tenants vacated.  The assessors' records gave me a person's name with a
business address (it included a suite number).  There are no businesses
listed by that name.  The only businesses at that address are a grocery
store and a bank.  I called Information but they don't list suite numbers.
I have to assume it's the bank that owns the property; I'll have to call
them in the morning to inquire.  By gosh, those former tenants are going to
pay to have this junk picked up, one way or the other!!

Jill
Magic Mood Jeep - 01 Jun 2007 03:25 GMT
>> When they moved, they took all the empty boxes and crap they didn't
>> want and moved it two doors down in front of an empty duplex.  Hey,
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>
> Jill

I was going to suggest that you attempt to contact the landlords and inform
them about what the ex-tenants have done, so they can withhold any security
deposit until the mess is gone, using this money to pay any fees to have it
hauled away.
jofirey - 01 Jun 2007 04:04 GMT
>>> When they moved, they took all the empty boxes and crap they didn't
>>> want and moved it two doors down in front of an empty duplex.  Hey,
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> security deposit until the mess is gone, using this money to pay any fees
> to have it hauled away.

I hope they get nailed but good.  If they had just left the mess on their
own property, the landlord could sue them for the cost of clean up.  Putting
it on someone else's property can get them arrested.  And I hope it does.

Jo
jmcquown - 01 Jun 2007 04:36 GMT
>>>> When they moved, they took all the empty boxes and crap they didn't
>>>> want and moved it two doors down in front of an empty duplex.  Hey,
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> Jo

The man whose property they dumped the stuff on called me back to thank me.
He told me those tenants next door have lived there 6-7 years (I knew that)
and they didn't pay for trash pickup.  The guy worked for some environmental
outfit and he used their trucks to haul off their garbage.  Cheapskates!
And when one of his own renters put a swingset in the back yard and left it
when they moved out after a few weeks these people came over and took it!
He didn't really care because he had no use for it but it tells you the kind
of people they were.

He thinks the landlord who owns the unit the tenants left is actually in
Texas.  He has no idea how to contact the man.  The address for the bank
tells me they may hold the mortgage and they may know how to reach the guy
and he should know how to reach these tenants if they want their deposit
back!

Jill
Chakolate - 01 Jun 2007 05:10 GMT
> He thinks the landlord who owns the unit the tenants left is actually
> in Texas.  He has no idea how to contact the man.  The address for the
> bank tells me they may hold the mortgage and they may know how to
> reach the guy and he should know how to reach these tenants if they
> want their deposit back!

Since Jill had gmail accounts blocked, could someone repost my suggestion
of how to get in touch with the slimeballs?  Write to them ('please
forward') at the old address, say you found a valuable ring while you
were retrieving your cat from their property, and would they send you
their address so you can send it to them.

Chak

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Adrian A - 01 Jun 2007 10:26 GMT
>> He thinks the landlord who owns the unit the tenants left is actually
>> in Texas.  He has no idea how to contact the man.  The address for
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>
> Chak

Reply so Jill can see.
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jmcquown - 01 Jun 2007 12:38 GMT
>> He thinks the landlord who owns the unit the tenants left is actually
>> in Texas.  He has no idea how to contact the man.  The address for
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Chak

I saw your post, Chak :)  There are a few problems with that.  (1)  I don't
know their name, (2) they probably didn't bother to forward their mail (bill
collectors, etc.) and (3) I doubt they owned anything of value for me to
find in their yard, given they actually stole the swingset from the property
next door!  They also know Persia would never have been on their property;
she hasn't been outside (other than in her Kitty Walk enclosure) in 6 years.
Frankly, they aren't worth the cost of a postage stamp.  I'll find the owner
of the property one way or another and let him deal with them.

Jill
Chakolate - 01 Jun 2007 20:41 GMT
> I saw your post, Chak :)  There are a few problems with that.  (1)  I
> don't know their name, (2) they probably didn't bother to forward
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> the cost of a postage stamp.  I'll find the owner of the property one
> way or another and let him deal with them.

Okay.  But their not having anything valuable wouldn't stop them from
claiming something if they thought they could, would it?  

However, if you don't know their names, it is moot.

Chak

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 01 Jun 2007 23:08 GMT
> I was going to suggest that you attempt to contact the landlords and
> inform them about what the ex-tenants have done, so they can withhold
> any security deposit until the mess is gone, using this money to pay any
> fees to have it hauled away.

That's assuming that A) the deposit hasn't already been used
up, and B) they didn't leave owing a couple of months' rent!
 ;-)
jmcquown - 02 Jun 2007 13:26 GMT
>> I was going to suggest that you attempt to contact the landlords and
>> inform them about what the ex-tenants have done, so they can withhold
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> up, and B) they didn't leave owing a couple of months' rent!
>   ;-)

I was driving out yesterday when I saw the owner of the vacant duplexes
going inside to check on his property.  The trash and boxes had been piled
neatly by the curb - I assume he did this.  But he left before I could go
over and talk with him in person.

In the meantime I had no luck finding the former renters or their landlord.
I'd called the bank and explained the situation, they put me in touch with
the county mayor's information line.  They referred me to the mayor's
assistance line who didn't seem to care but took the information anyway.
You get where this is going ?  I ran into a huge ball of red tape bigger
than any ball of anything our cats care to tangle with!  Once government
gets involved rather than just people who care about it, it's FUBAR. (A
military acronym and if you don't know it, don't worry, it means you're
normal.)

The only thing I can say at this point is the trash is now neatly stacked.

Jill
Adrian A - 01 Jun 2007 10:23 GMT
>> When they moved, they took all the empty boxes and crap they didn't
>> want and moved it two doors down in front of an empty duplex.  Hey,
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>
> Jill

I think you're starting to enjoy this, Jill. I wish you every success in
your efforts. :-)
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jmcquown - 01 Jun 2007 12:44 GMT
>>> When they moved, they took all the empty boxes and crap they didn't
>>> want and moved it two doors down in front of an empty duplex.  Hey,
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I think you're starting to enjoy this, Jill. I wish you every success
> in your efforts. :-)

I feel like a detective :)  In fact, while discussing this with a friend of
mine she suggested maybe I could get a license to become a P.I. (private
investigator)!

That reminded me of a funny, unrelated tale.  30 years ago the age of
majority was 18.  I signed up with a temporary job agency to try to find
secretarial type work.  The man at the agency called me one day to ask if
there was any reason I couldn't be licensed to carry a gun.  Excuse me?
Seems he had a firm looking to hire private investigators and he thought I'd
be perfect since no one would exect me to be a  P.I.  This was in the days
when the TV show 'Charlie's Angels' was all the rage.  Um, no thanks, I
really don't want a job where I have to carry a gun!

Jill
 
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