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Christina Websell - 28 May 2007 13:06 GMT
Hmmm.   My ploy of leaving the back door open to let Boyfriend's latest
"gift" escape obviously didn't work.
I was in the house most of the day yesterday as it threw it down raing from
morning until.. (well, it's still raining now) and was sitting in my
armchair reading a really nice book when I heard a *noise* in the pile of
logs next to my woodburner.  A scratching noise, in fact, the unmistakable
sound of a mouse in the house.  Oh, great!
Boyfie was snoozing right next me to on his donut bed (it was raining after
all, don't forget) but the noise woke him up and he sprang across the room
to do a bit of threatening presence and hard staring.
It went on all the rest of the day.   Boyfie would occasionally move to
another part of the room, get behind the furniture and stare a bit more.
Just to show me he was really trying, given that it's his fault in the first
place ;-)

I dug out from the depths of a cupboard this wonderful catch-alive mouse
trap I have.  It's a wooden box with cunningly contrived entrances that let
the mouse in but not out, baited it with a few sunflower hearts from my wild
bird seed, put it behind an armchair right against the wall and went to bed.

Success!  The mouse was in the trap when I got up.   I released it 50 yards
down my garden.  It can get a living down there, plenty of poultry food
around.

Tweed
Adrian A - 28 May 2007 14:39 GMT
> Hmmm.   My ploy of leaving the back door open to let Boyfriend's
> latest "gift" escape obviously didn't work.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Tweed

Glad you caught the mouse and gave him another chance. I'll have to get
another sack of sunflower hearts next week, the goldfinches love them.
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Kreisleriana - 28 May 2007 15:25 GMT
>> Hmmm.   My ploy of leaving the back door open to let Boyfriend's
>> latest "gift" escape obviously didn't work.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>Glad you caught the mouse and gave him another chance. I'll have to get
>another sack of sunflower hearts next week, the goldfinches love them.

I am jealous that you have goldfinches.  We have a lot of great birds
here that surprise a lot of people in the big city, but I've got to
get up and go to a wooded or open area to see goldfinches.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

Make Levees, Not War
jmcquown - 28 May 2007 16:02 GMT
>>> Hmmm.   My ploy of leaving the back door open to let Boyfriend's
>>> latest "gift" escape obviously didn't work.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> here that surprise a lot of people in the big city, but I've got to
> get up and go to a wooded or open area to see goldfinches.

Until the apartment manager had the small tree in the corner of my patio cut
down, I had a place to hang the thistle feeder and saw goldfinches all the
time.  If I get a few extra bucks I need to buy another shepherd's hook so I
can hang the thistle feeder again.

Jill
Christina Websell - 28 May 2007 16:10 GMT
"Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
kq41sba0o5mrjeef3ha0sif@4ax.com...

>>> Hmmm.   My ploy of leaving the back door open to let Boyfriend's
>>> latest "gift" escape obviously didn't work.
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> here that surprise a lot of people in the big city, but I've got to
> get up and go to a wooded or open area to see goldfinches.

American and English goldfinches are not the same.  This is what ours look
like:
http://tinyurl.com/create.php

Tweed
jmcquown - 28 May 2007 16:15 GMT
> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> kq41sba0o5mrjeef3ha0sif@4ax.com...
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Tweed

Wrong link!
Adrian A - 28 May 2007 16:32 GMT
> I am jealous that you have goldfinches.  We have a lot of great birds
> here that surprise a lot of people in the big city, but I've got to
> get up and go to a wooded or open area to see goldfinches.

Actually, our goldfinches in Burope are a different species to the North
American ones, both are beautiful, this is our goldfinch.
http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/goldfinch/index.asp
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Kreisleriana - 28 May 2007 17:14 GMT
>> I am jealous that you have goldfinches.  We have a lot of great birds
>> here that surprise a lot of people in the big city, but I've got to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>American ones, both are beautiful, this is our goldfinch.
>http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/goldfinch/index.asp

Wow, that is a gorgeous bird!  How exactly does that help my jeaousy?
;)

Theresa
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Make Levees, Not War
Adrian A - 28 May 2007 17:28 GMT
>>> I am jealous that you have goldfinches.  We have a lot of great
>>> birds here that surprise a lot of people in the big city, but I've
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Wow, that is a gorgeous bird!  How exactly does that help my jeaousy?
> ;)

I suppose it won't help when I tell you I've counted as many as twenty
outside my window? ;-)
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 28 May 2007 18:24 GMT
>> I am jealous that you have goldfinches.  We have a lot of great birds
>> here that surprise a lot of people in the big city, but I've got to
>> get up and go to a wooded or open area to see goldfinches.
> Actually, our goldfinches in Burope are a different species to the
> North American ones, both are beautiful, this is our goldfinch.
> http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/g/goldfinch/index.asp

I've only seen one in the wild once.  I'd just been up a mountain in
the Highlands and was sitting on the platform of the railway station
to go back home when this tiny little thing perched on the toe of my
boot and looked at me.  It checked to see if I had any seeds stuck in
my bootlaces and then whizzed off again.  I've never seen a bird with
so little fear of people.

Round here they would all be catfood in no time.  The only birds that
survive are the ones that stay in the trees or at roof level.

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Christina Websell - 28 May 2007 20:16 GMT
Well, good, that got the goldfinch question out of the way then.

Tweed
Kathy - 28 May 2007 20:26 GMT
> Well, good, that got the goldfinch question out of the way then.
>
> Tweed

I've only seen a goldfinch (the state bird of New Jersey, BTW, I
understand) once. I had planted sunflowers and of two or three that
actually bloomed, there was a tiny bright little yellow goldfinch
sitting on one of them. It didn't stay long and I have never seen
another although a neighbor plants huge sunflowers in the hope of seeing
a goldfinch. Do your cats want to get out and get the little birds?
Woodgie eyes them like she can jump up on the telephone wire and get
them ( they don't know she isn't a real huntress).
Kathy
PatM - 29 May 2007 00:37 GMT
On May 28, 6:06 am, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk>
 A scratching noise, in fact, the unmistakable
> sound of a mouse in the house.  Oh, great!

> I dug out from the depths of a cupboard this wonderful catch-alive mouse
> trap I have.  It's a wooden box with cunningly contrived entrances that let
> the mouse in but not out, baited it with a few sunflower hearts from my wild

> Success!  The mouse was in the trap when I got up.  

Ever since my Punkers has been gone the mousies have been coming
around.  I don't think she ever really caught them any more, but she
must have radiated a ferocious prescense because we never had any
(that we knew of!) before.  I got a couple of those no-kill traps,
too, that I baited with dry Ramen noodles stuck on with peanut butter.
Apparently they REALLY like Top Ramen. Hummm...   I released them in a
local park that gets lots of picnickers (crumbs). :)

PatM
Cheryl Perkins - 29 May 2007 11:43 GMT
> Ever since my Punkers has been gone the mousies have been coming
> around.  I don't think she ever really caught them any more, but she
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Apparently they REALLY like Top Ramen. Hummm...   I released them in a
> local park that gets lots of picnickers (crumbs). :)

I am (naturally!) a strong advocate of Natural Mouse Control, aka The Cat.
I once lived in an apartment with a no-pets lease, and the landlady, when
I reported the presence of a mouse and asked for permission to borrow a
cat, gave me one of those humane mouse traps. I think the mouse must have
fallen over its paws laughing; it certainly never entered the trap and
probably died of old age somewhere in the recesses of the house.

Some time later I moved into a place with a mouse problem. I removed all
the trays of poison left by the previous tenant, and brought in my cats. I
think the sudden disappearance of the mice must have been caused by the
mere presence of the cats, because it was years before I ever saw any
evidence of the cats actually catching a mouse - and in all those years, I
also never saw any mice or any evidence of them; not even a dropping. I
guess most of the mice weren't so stupid as to hang around in a place with
two cats.

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Lesley - 29 May 2007 14:54 GMT
. I
>think the sudden disappearance of the mice must have been caused by the
>mere presence of the cats,

Our neighbours downstairs have persistent mouse problems and we have had
several visits for the pest control people and as soon as they see we have
cats (AKA Orcs, which stands for Organic Rodent Control Systems) they say we
won't have a problem. In the many years this has been going on, I've seen one
mouse and Isis (RB) gave it a little kiss and sent it on its way (Wish I'd
had a camera handy!)

Lesley

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Christina Websell - 29 May 2007 17:12 GMT
>> Ever since my Punkers has been gone the mousies have been coming
>> around.  I don't think she ever really caught them any more, but she
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> guess most of the mice weren't so stupid as to hang around in a place with
> two cats.

Well that would be fine if it wasn't Boyfie that brought it in and let it go
alive in the first place ;-)

Tweed
Cheryl Perkins - 29 May 2007 19:32 GMT
> Well that would be fine if it wasn't Boyfie that brought it in and let it go
> alive in the first place ;-)

Boyfie is clearly well-meaning, but has the implementation a little
confused - reversed, even!

And I bet you don't get a whole lot of mice moving into the house
voluntarily!

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Christina Websell - 29 May 2007 21:01 GMT
>> Well that would be fine if it wasn't Boyfie that brought it in and let it
>> go
>> alive in the first place ;-)
>
> Boyfie is clearly well-meaning, but has the implementation a little
> confused - reversed, even!

He just hasn't got the hang of that killing bite yet! and he *will* insist
on opening his mouth to meow if I look at him when he comes in.  Without
prey that is fine, with prey it's a disaster.

Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 May 2007 00:33 GMT
>> Boyfie is clearly well-meaning, but has the implementation a little
>> confused - reversed, even!

> He just hasn't got the hang of that killing bite yet! and he *will* insist
> on opening his mouth to meow if I look at him when he comes in.  Without
> prey that is fine, with prey it's a disaster.

The other night, I heard a lot of banging around right outside my front
door. Or, I should say, Roxy and I heard banging around. My ears didn't
swivel around at the sound, but hers did.

I cautiously opened the door. Fortunately, I have both a solid, wooden
door and a screen door on the outside. So I opened the inner door and
looked out. Smudge was lunging at something just out of my line of sight.
So I closed the door again, to leave her to it.

About 20 minutes later, I heard Smudge's standard, let-me-in scratch at
the door. Again, I opened the door cautiously, keeping the screen door
shut. I demanded to see her face full-on before opening that screen door!
It was dark out, so hard to see, but something didn't look quite right.
She trilled at me and, sure enough, dropped a small mouse, which moved.
Again, I shut the door.

I didn't let her in until quite some time later, after I'd seen proof
positive that she had nothing in her mouth. The pandemonium of a mouse
running loose in my apartment was not something I wanted to deal with!

Joyce
Christina Websell - 30 May 2007 00:47 GMT
> >> Boyfie is clearly well-meaning, but has the implementation a little
> >> confused - reversed, even!
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> positive that she had nothing in her mouth. The pandemonium of a mouse
> running loose in my apartment was not something I wanted to deal with!

You are a meanie.  It's *really* fun to have a mowsie in the howsie.  Does
this sound convincing?

Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 May 2007 05:41 GMT
> You are a meanie.  It's *really* fun to have a mowsie in the howsie.  Does
> this sound convincing?

Uh... not really. :)

Joyce
Kreisleriana - 30 May 2007 14:32 GMT
>> >> Boyfie is clearly well-meaning, but has the implementation a little
>> >> confused - reversed, even!
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>> It was dark out, so hard to see, but something didn't look quite right.
>> She trilled at me and, sure enough, dropped a small mouse

Yes, I can that the "Hi Mommy!" effect. ;)  

Stinky does that too, with and without mousies.  The without-mousie
version goes like this:  He's doing his once or twice daily around the
house swagger patrol, yowling his head off, defending his territory
against all enemies real and imagined, and if he sees me, he'll just
veer off course towards me, stick his tail up in the air, headbutt me
and brush past me, then continue on his appointed rounds.  "COME ON
OUT YA BUGGERS, I'LL KICK YER-- oh hi, Mommy!"

Theresa
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Make Levees, Not War
Christina Websell - 30 May 2007 22:41 GMT
>>> >> Boyfie is clearly well-meaning, but has the implementation a little
>>> >> confused - reversed, even!
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> and brush past me, then continue on his appointed rounds.  "COME ON
> OUT YA BUGGERS, I'LL KICK YER-- oh hi, Mommy!"

LOL!  Boyfriend likes to patrol too.  He likes to amuse the rats around my
poultry huts by staring the death stare at the big ones and sometimes
catching the small ones,   He used to be bullied big time by a black cat
that we call The Enemy who lives a couple of houses away and would come into
the garden and beat Boyfriend up regularly.
One day, he got fed up with it.  He is a total pacifist, but it was really
enough.  Huge fight and The Enemy does not dare to come into Boyfie's yard
again ever since.
I sometimes see The Enemy on the street and if Boyfie comes out to join me
he just seems to melt away.

Tweed
Kreisleriana - 30 May 2007 14:20 GMT
> >> Boyfie is clearly well-meaning, but has the implementation a little
> >> confused - reversed, even!
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
>Joyce

Aww, you haven't lived a full life. ;)

I'll never forget the night when Stinky dropped his still-live catch
in bed with me. :O  

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

Make Levees, Not War
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 May 2007 19:47 GMT
> Well that would be fine if it wasn't Boyfie that brought it in and let it go
> alive in the first place ;-)
>
> Tweed

Oh, Miu used to do that regularly!  Not mice but those
little charcoal and white "fruit" rats so common to Southern
California.  (They're kinda cute - I've seen "pet" rats for
sale that were not nearly so attractive - but they ARE rats,
and really didn't belong nesting in my broom-closet or under
the butcher-block top of my portable dishwasher!)

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