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jmcquown - 25 May 2007 19:01 GMT
Got an email from my errant nephew, Alex.  He's got to be, what, 25 by now?
Last time I heard from him he'd decided he must be gay.  Now he's decided
he's not. (sigh)  And he's planning to get married but I have no idea to
whom.

He claims he started a new job and he told the managers during the interview
he would only be there long enough to get trained on the machines (I can
only assume computers) to make enough money to move to CA and get married.
(Why do I suspect he met this person online?!)

He says they fired him after three days stating they don't want to train
someone who is just going to leave.  He says he countered with the fact that
their biggest manufacturing and distribution center is in CA in the very
town where he's planning to move, but they didn't care.

When it comes to my nephew, Alex, I have to take everything with a
*Tablespoonful* of salt.  He's Paul's son and the apple didn't fall far from
the tree.  I find it very hard to believe they hired him if he told them on
the front end he was going to leave in 3-4 months.  I think they are
absolutely correct - why would they pay to train him if they know he's
leaving?  And maybe they don't *need* anyone at the California distribution
center!

So now he's job hunting again.  I really want to lay it out for him.  Dude,
forget about moving to California to marry some (I assume) mystery chick
you've been chatting with.  No one is going to train and hire you under the
assumption you're just planning to pick up and leave.

He seems to think I'm going to be sympathetic.  (He even said drug tests
don't matter because he has a very high metabolism and he smokes pot daily.
Huh?!)  Try getting a job in this area at *my* age, Alex.  I need to find
out where he was working; maybe they'll give me a job and train me!  I'm not
going anywhere!  LOL

Jill
Noon Cat Nick - 25 May 2007 21:47 GMT
>Got an email from my errant nephew, Alex.  He's got to be, what, 25 by now?
>Last time I heard from him he'd decided he must be gay.  Now he's decided
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>going anywhere!  LOL
>  

Your nephew sounds like some piece of work. It also sounds like he
possesses an unmistakable degree of mental instability (said the
mentally unstable Noon Cat Nick, who's perfectly capable of assuming
mental instabiliy in others at will).

One thing's certain: Alex has a poor grounding in reality, combined with
no small amount of self-centeredness. If he expects you or anyone to be
sympathetic toward his plans, then he's way lost, and even seems to
prefer his disconnected status. It's his maladaptive way of coping with
the world. Don't expect him to relinquish it soon, if ever, unfortunately.
jmcquown - 25 May 2007 22:17 GMT
>> When it comes to my nephew, Alex, I have to take everything with a
>> *Tablespoonful* of salt.  He's Paul's son and the apple didn't fall
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> way of coping with the world. Don't expect him to relinquish it soon,
> if ever, unfortunately.

Fortunately I haven't seen him in about 3 years and haven't heard from him
in about a year.  He emails me occasionally about chatting.  BUT, he gave up
on Yahoo for chatting because he learned they are "helping the Chinese
government search out 'democratic dissidents'".

Um.  I'm more concerned about the crap they are exporting that is killing
people than their politics, at this point.  I know, I know, beat me over the
head.  But their abhorrant labour practices aren't going to change just
because we want them to!

Anyway, I totally agree my nephew needs to get his head together.  He's 24
or 25 but he talks like he's 10 years younger.  At least he's not doing that
text-speak thing.  He does write in intelligble sentences :)

Jill
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 25 May 2007 23:31 GMT
> Fortunately I haven't seen him in about 3 years and haven't heard from him
> in about a year.  He emails me occasionally about chatting.  BUT, he gave up
> on Yahoo for chatting because he learned they are "helping the Chinese
> government search out 'democratic dissidents'".

> Um.  I'm more concerned about the crap they are exporting that is killing
> people than their politics, at this point.  I know, I know, beat me over the
> head.  But their abhorrant labour practices aren't going to change just
> because we want them to!

I don't think these things are unrelated... I doubt their exports are
going to get better until the people doing the work aren't treated like
slaves... not that this excuses poisonings, but if folks are right and
it's more due to incompetence and mismanagement, then cleaning up workplaces
has to come first, IMO.

Not that I expect any of this to happen soon. The Chinese market is
roaring, and that's because they sell things cheap. And they sell things
cheap because they exploit labor and cut costs by putting junk that doesn't
belong in food... too bad about that "people dying' thing...

(Sorry, I am obviously obsessed with this topic. I'll get over it
eventually... But I'm with your nephew on this one.)

Joyce
Matthew - 25 May 2007 21:59 GMT
> Got an email from my errant nephew, Alex.  He's got to be, what, 25 by
> now?
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> Jill

Jill he is looking to whine to someone and he will hit that person up when
he finds them.  Watch yourself  self destructive behavior breeds like
wildfire It looks for more people to consume.

He can have a high metabolism but pot stays in your system for up to 90 days
on some people urine test can be easily beat but blood work can't and a hair
follicle test is for ever.

When I test my employees it is blood and urine not getting out of it or you
are terminated immediately  if you refuse.

Alex is 25  time to grow up suffer thru his mistakes and move on in life. He
might be family Jill but keep your distance or you could get sucked in or
worse you could have 60's flash backs ;-)
jmcquown - 25 May 2007 22:11 GMT
>> Got an email from my errant nephew, Alex.  He's got to be, what, 25
>> by now?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> life. He might be family Jill but keep your distance or you could get
> sucked in or worse you could have 60's flash backs ;-)

LOL  No flashbacks here... um, not recently ;)  But Alex and his father are
one reason I don't keep in touch with that particular "branch" of the
family.  I keep my distance so I won't get sucked into the drama.  It's
always drama!  My nephew is apparently expecting an advocate - Bast knows
why!  I haven't seen him in almost 3 years.

Jill
Joy - 25 May 2007 23:04 GMT
>>> Got an email from my errant nephew, Alex.  He's got to be, what, 25
>>> by now?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill

You obviously have your head on straight, even if the same can't be said for
him.  I guess all you can do is be thankful he's (apparently) some distance
away and you are in no way responsible for him.

Joy
:-)Liz - 26 May 2007 20:06 GMT
Sadly your nephew is my brother just add 15 years...My brother still expects
and demands everything catered to him. ( He DOES NOT!!! sucker me into any
of his Cr*p!!!) In his mind he's always right, always the victim and is
consumed by his selfishness. He refuses to get help for his prescription
meds addictions and achohol abuse...He doesn't think he has a
problem...Sadly, I can do nothing but watch him spiral around the drain...I
Love my brother but I DO NOT like this person he has become... I can only
hope and pray to the gods that he will reach out for help before he's
consumed.... Sighhhhhh. :-)Liz

>>> Got an email from my errant nephew, Alex.  He's got to be, what, 25
>>> by now?
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 25 May 2007 23:37 GMT
> Jill he is looking to whine to someone and he will hit that person up when
> he finds them.  Watch yourself  self destructive behavior breeds like
> wildfire It looks for more people to consume.

[snip]

> Alex is 25  time to grow up suffer thru his mistakes and move on in life. He
> might be family Jill but keep your distance or you could get sucked in or
> worse you could have 60's flash backs ;-)

Sheesh, you folks are being awfully hard on this kid. What has he done
that's so terrible? So he's not very mature... either was I at 25. OK, it
wasn't so smart of him to tell the company he was planning to leave after
getting trained - but on the other hand, it was honest. He sounds more
naive than anything else.

I probably wouldn't want to be involved in his life, especially if he's
the type to try to hit you up for cash or other favors. Just let him work
it out for himself. He's young, he has time to grow up!

Joyce
Sherry - 25 May 2007 23:42 GMT
On May 25, 5:37 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > Jill he is looking to whine to someone and he will hit that person up when
>  > he finds them.  Watch yourself  self destructive behavior breeds like
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Sheesh, you folks are being awfully hard on this kid. What has he done
> that's so terrible? So he's not very mature...
snipped
> Joyce

That was my reaction too, Joyce. I have a 25-year-old. Some of the
decisions me makes
still shocks me sometimes. He is far from being as mature as his
father was at that age.
But you know why? Because we sheltered him too much. He was always
jumping off
diving boards, and we were always making sure the pool was full of
water.  He's a good
kid, never even had a speeding ticket. But man-o-man, he has a *whole*
lot to learn
about being a good, dependable employee, and being financially
responsible, too. We've
had to watch him fall on his face a couple of times without helping
him up, and that
was the hardest thing.

Sherry
jmcquown - 26 May 2007 05:48 GMT
>  > Jill he is looking to whine to someone and he will hit that person
>  up when > he finds them.  Watch yourself  self destructive behavior
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> He sounds more
> naive than anything else.

The thing is, I don't believe he told the company any such thing, otherwise
they wouldn't have hired him and then let him go after 3 days.  I think he
was just shooting his mouth off to someone about how he was going to get
paid to be trained then high tail it to California and it got back to
management.  His "story" doesn't make a lick of sense.  And why he'd email
this tale of woe to me is also a mystery since I haven't seen him in years.

> I probably wouldn't want to be involved in his life, especially if
> he's
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Joyce
Suz - 28 May 2007 14:24 GMT
> > Got an email from my errant nephew, Alex. He's got to be, what, 25 by
> > now?
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>
> - Show quoted text -

And if they test a hair sample its there for years.

Suz&Spicey
Sherry - 25 May 2007 23:13 GMT
> Got an email from my errant nephew, Alex.  He's got to be, what, 25 by now?
> Last time I heard from him he'd decided he must be gay.  Now he's decided
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> Jill

I dunno, Jill. He sounds like a lot of people in his age bracket I
know--(male specifically). It's like
they haven't matured the way they should have. They seem to lacking
basic work ethics. By
that I mean--they feel entitled for the boss to compensate for *them*,
not the other way around. They "call
in sick" with a sniffle.
I'm sure the majrianana smoking compounds it though. The people in my
age bracket who were heavy
dope smokers seemed to be the ones that were so laid-back they had
zero ambition

Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 26 May 2007 02:04 GMT
> He seems to think I'm going to be sympathetic.  (He even said drug tests
> don't matter because he has a very high metabolism and he smokes pot daily.
> Huh?!)  Try getting a job in this area at *my* age, Alex.  I need to find
> out where he was working; maybe they'll give me a job and train me!  I'm not
> going anywhere!  LOL

You know the saying, Jill - "We can choose our friends, but
we're stuck with our relatives!"
jmcquown - 27 May 2007 04:09 GMT
>> He seems to think I'm going to be sympathetic.  (He even said drug
>> tests don't matter because he has a very high metabolism and he
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> You know the saying, Jill - "We can choose our friends, but
> we're stuck with our relatives!"

Yeah!  I'm used to people stopping selling things I like.  I have three
tubes of the shade of Revlon lipstick I prefer ;)  it goes with everything!
Relatives don't get discontinued.
Lesley - 26 May 2007 13:38 GMT
> He claims he started a new job and he told the managers during the interview
> he would only be there long enough to get trained on the machines (I can
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> He says they fired him after three days stating they don't want to train
> someone who is just going to leave.  

If he said that at the interview then they wouldn't have hired him. I
suspect he was boasting to some other people at work and was either
overheard by the management or someone grassed hjim up. Either that or
he isn't telling Auntie Jill the whole story...

> He seems to think I'm going to be sympathetic.  (He even said drug tests
> don't matter because he has a very high metabolism and he smokes pot daily.
> Huh?!)

He's in for a nasty little surprise there then  if he ever does get
tested

 Try getting a job in this area at *my* age, Alex.  I need to find
> out where he was working; maybe they'll give me a job and train me!  I'm not
> going anywhere!  LOL

Sounds like this guy needs a good kick in the pants from reality, one
can only hope he gets it before maturity sets in (at about 35 or later
by the sound of it) and when he's ready to get a job and make a go of
it, all he can show employers is a CV full of blank spaces and short
term jobs, I've had that trouble myself, sometimes I've had to take a
part time or a temporary job simply because I need to pay the rent
every week and I have had people suggest that this proves I'm not
going to stay with their company long term. Then again the damn
silliest advice I ever got was after being made redundant from a
management position someone told me I should sit at home and wait for
the phone to ring...

If I had I'd have been sitting by the phone for the last 18 years!

Lesley

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