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Sherry - 21 May 2007 05:11 GMT
After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I
imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more
of them this year too.

I never really considered heartworm for the cats, because they're
indoors at least 90% of the time and we were just never bothered by
mosquitoes outdoors. Till now.

I know now I've got to get them on heartworm protection. I am familiar
with what the treatment was a few years ago for dogs, it was one pill
a month. Is it the same still, and the same for cats?

Sherry
MaryL - 21 May 2007 06:23 GMT
> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I
> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more
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>
> Sherry

Yes, it's the same for cats.  I use Heartgard (obviously, ask for feline and
not canine Heartgard).  It is a large, pliable pill which is supposed to be
chewable.  Well, neither of mine show any interest in voluntarily eating one
of those pills!  However, they are soft, so I twist and crumble them into
tiny pieces and then mix them with either tuna or canned chicken.  I also
sit and watch the cats eat to make sure that each of them eats the entire
pill and *does not*  begin to share the other cat's portion.  I use
Heartgard 12 months of the year, and I give it on the first day of the month
to make it easy to remember.

MaryL
jmcquown - 21 May 2007 08:51 GMT
> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I
> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Sherry

I've been concerned about this, too.  With the lovely cool weather Persia
has been spending a lot of time in her enclosure.  I'm concerned not only
about mosquito bites but also about fleas and ticks.  She hasn't exhibited
any signs of being bitten by anything (me neither!) but I'd rather play it
safe with her.  What is the least expensive treatment that will deal with
both?  Advantage?  Frontline?  Those are the names most frequently bandied
about but are there cheaper alternatives?

I have to pick up Persia's food at the vet in the morning so I'll be asking
them.  But we all know they are as beleagured with sales reps as any doctor
who has pharmaceutical salesmen beating down his door.  Thought I'd get your
opinions, too :)

Jill
Joy - 21 May 2007 08:59 GMT
>> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I
>> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Jill

And while we're discussing Frontline and Advantage, does anybody see a
difference?  If so, which one do you think is best?

Joy
Sherry - 21 May 2007 14:34 GMT
> >> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I
> >> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
> Joy-

Joy, I have used both. They're both effective. It used to be, about 5
years ago when I used to
use Frontline, that the only difference was that Frontline protected
against ticks also, and
Advantage didn't. I don't know if that is still the case.
I had one cat have a reaction to Frontline. He started drooling and
panting, and rolling frantically around on the carpet. I started
trying to wash it off, and pretty
soon the episode stopped. I changed to Advantage and never had a
problem with it.

I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused it.
Our cats never did
get ticks anyway. I bet we have fleas and ticks in the yard this year
also, becuase of
so much rain and humidity.

Sherry

Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 21 May 2007 17:06 GMT
> I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused it.
> Our cats never did
> get ticks anyway. I bet we have fleas and ticks in the yard this year
> also, becuase of
> so much rain and humidity.

I don't know how ticks breed, but mosquitos need a pool of
stagnant water somewhere - the larvae hatch in water, and
look a bit like tadpoles (but their tails don't wriggle).  I
remember once, as a kid, bringing home a whole jarful of
them, under the impression they WERE tadpoles (I'd never
seen a live tadpole, only pictures).  I set the jar on a
windowsill and waited for the baby frogs to develop.  (We
never saw any frogs, but we certainly had a houseful of
mosquitos in a very short time!)
Adrian A - 21 May 2007 17:20 GMT
>> I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused it.
>> Our cats never did
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> never saw any frogs, but we certainly had a houseful of
> mosquitos in a very short time!)

When I was a kid I used to collect mosquito larvae for my goldfish, they
loved them and scoffed the lot in about ten minutes.
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MaryL - 21 May 2007 17:39 GMT
>> I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused it.
>> Our cats never did
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> waited for the baby frogs to develop.  (We never saw any frogs, but we
> certainly had a houseful of mosquitos in a very short time!)

Yes, mosquitos breed in pools of stagnant water, and there is a remarkable
array of places where that can occur -- a watering can left sitting
outdoors, for example.  I brush all water out of all of my bird baths at
least twice a week (usually three times), scrub, and replace with fresh
water.  I don't think the birds notice, but I do it to get rid of any
mosquito larvae.

MaryL
badwilson - 22 May 2007 12:16 GMT
>>> I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused
>>> it. Our cats never did
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>
> MaryL

Yes, this practice was very important in Thailand.  If you have stagnant
water inside your house, the mosquitoes that would breed in it would
most often carry dengue fever and therefore it was really important to
keep that from happening.  Never happened with mosquitoes that bred in
stagnant water outside, only indoors.
I never got it but many people I know did.  Not a fun few weeks, that's
for sure.
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MaryL - 23 May 2007 00:23 GMT
> Yes, this practice was very important in Thailand.  If you have stagnant
> water inside your house, the mosquitoes that would breed in it would most
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I never got it but many people I know did.  Not a fun few weeks, that's
> for sure.

That's interesting.  Do you know why mosquitoes that hatch indoors would
dengue fever but not those that breed/hatch outdoors?

MaryL
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badwilson - 23 May 2007 00:55 GMT
>> Yes, this practice was very important in Thailand.  If you have
>> stagnant water inside your house, the mosquitoes that would breed in
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> That's interesting.  Do you know why mosquitoes that hatch indoors
> would dengue fever but not those that breed/hatch outdoors?

I heard it's a different breed of mosquitoes.  Also, those indoor
breeding, dengue fever carrying ones are out and about during the day
and that is when you are likely to get bitten.  In the case of Malaria
carrying mosquitoes, those bite at dusk or at night and breed outdoors.
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jmcquown - 24 May 2007 17:36 GMT
>>> Yes, this practice was very important in Thailand.  If you have
>>> stagnant water inside your house, the mosquitoes that would breed in
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> carrying mosquitoes, those bite at dusk or at night and breed
> outdoors.

This reminds me of a joke I heard a comedian do on some night time talk
show.  If you're trying to get to sleep and you hear a mosquito buzzing
around your head, don't worry.  Only the males make that buzzing sound and
they don't bite.  If, on the other hand, you hear *nothing*... ;)

Jill
William Hamblen - 23 May 2007 03:00 GMT
>That's interesting.  Do you know why mosquitoes that hatch indoors would
>dengue fever but not those that breed/hatch outdoors?

Mosquitos that breed near people would be more likely to feed on
people and spread disease.  Each disease has its own vector.  I just
read a book, America's Plague, about yellow fever, which is spread by
the same mosquito as dengue.

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Ted Davis - 21 May 2007 16:27 GMT
>>> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I
>>> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>And while we're discussing Frontline and Advantage, does anybody see a
>difference?  If so, which one do you think is best?

Advantage doesn't do ticks.

Advantage - fleas

Frontline Plus - fleas and ticks

Revolution - fleas, heartworm (Dirofilaria immitis), ear mites
(Otodectes cynotis), intestinal roundworm (Toxocara cati) and hookworm
(Ancylostoma tubaeforme).

My big problems are fleas and ticks (a couple of my cats like to spend
time in a tick farm - I remove several (dead and dying as well as
live) ticks a day from them) so Frontline Plus is my only real option.
It is also the least expensive when purchased in largest dog size
six-packs from one of the Australian vendors.  I also have a tapeworm
problem, for which I use Valuecat Allwormer paste, also from an
Australian vendor.

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badwilson - 22 May 2007 12:20 GMT
>>>> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I
>>>> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> problem, for which I use Valuecat Allwormer paste, also from an
> Australian vendor.

Can you tell me the web site for these Australian vendors?  I'm in
Australia so this would be very helpful for me to save money.
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Ted Davis - 22 May 2007 17:18 GMT
>Can you tell me the web site for these Australian vendors?  I'm in
>Australia so this would be very helpful for me to save money.

I don't know that they even do business in Australia, but the vendors
I use have US$ oriented web sites at
<http://www.deadfleaz.com/>
 Business: Aussie Pet Direct
 Contact E-Mail: aussiepet@austarnet.com.au

and
<http://www.pawshed.com/>
 Business: Pawshed Pty Ltd
 Contact E-Mail: sales@pawshed.com

There are others, but those are the ones I have done business with,
and will again.  In both cases, payment was via PayPal.

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badwilson - 23 May 2007 01:07 GMT
>> Can you tell me the web site for these Australian vendors?  I'm in
>> Australia so this would be very helpful for me to save money.
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> There are others, but those are the ones I have done business with,
> and will again.  In both cases, payment was via PayPal.

Thanks for those.  They do seem to ship to Australia.  Deadfleaz seems
to be cheaper than pawshed.  With the exchange rate and shipping, I
would save $7 Australian on an Advantage 4 pack over what I pay at my
local vet's.  It's not a *ton* but still worth considering.
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Matthew - 21 May 2007 10:53 GMT
> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I
> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Sherry

There is a place in Florida called mosquito alley  this is not joke the
mosquito get so thick they can smother you
Victor Martinez - 21 May 2007 14:14 GMT
> I know now I've got to get them on heartworm protection. I am familiar
> with what the treatment was a few years ago for dogs, it was one pill
> a month. Is it the same still, and the same for cats?

We use Revolution, it's a topical medication that protects against
fleas, heartworm, hookworm and roundworm.

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Sherry - 21 May 2007 14:29 GMT
> > I know now I've got to get them on heartworm protection. I am familiar
> > with what the treatment was a few years ago for dogs, it was one pill
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> --
> Victor M. Martinez

Oh wow, no joke? I didn't know Revolution protected against Heartworm.
I should have
read the package better. They are already on Revolution. Thanks,
Victor.

Sherry
Nadia N. - 21 May 2007 20:29 GMT
>> I know now I've got to get them on heartworm protection. I am familiar
>> with what the treatment was a few years ago for dogs, it was one pill
>> a month. Is it the same still, and the same for cats?
>
> We use Revolution, it's a topical medication that protects against
> fleas, heartworm, hookworm and roundworm.

By the way, does anyone know of a reputable site that sells Revolution
or HeartGard for cats? I moved to Spain at the end of last year, and so
far all the vets here that I have asked about heartworm protection for
cats have never heard of any. All they have is medication for dogs :-(
So it seems like my only chance of getting my little monster properly
protected is to buy some medicine online. But I've heard you should
never buy pet medicine online... So if anyone knows of a place online
that can be trusted to buy medication from, please let me know.

Nadia N.
(and Kotyo)

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Victor Martinez - 21 May 2007 22:38 GMT
> By the way, does anyone know of a reputable site that sells Revolution
> or HeartGard for cats? I moved to Spain at the end of last year, and so

We get it from petscriptions.com, excellent service! Not sure about
international shipping though...

> far all the vets here that I have asked about heartworm protection for
> cats have never heard of any. All they have is medication for dogs :-(

Bear in mind that dog and cat Revolution have the same active
ingredient, just in different concentrations and volumes. You can do the
math and give each cat the right dosage. We buy the large dog package
and divide it among the 7 cats so that each dose has what the regular
cat dose does. It's WAY cheaper this way and our vet approves.

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Nadia N. - 21 May 2007 22:52 GMT
>> By the way, does anyone know of a reputable site that sells Revolution
>> or HeartGard for cats? I moved to Spain at the end of last year, and so
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> and divide it among the 7 cats so that each dose has what the regular
> cat dose does. It's WAY cheaper this way and our vet approves.

Thank you Victor. Unfortunately petscriptions.com seems to only ship
within the US. I haven't found any vets here who sell Revolution,
either. Mostly they have Advantage, and some Spanish-brand heartworm
medicine for dogs which is given in an injection, not a pill. I'll keep
looking, though :-)

Nadia and Kotyo

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