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Mosquitoes (On Topic)
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Sherry - 21 May 2007 05:11 GMT After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more of them this year too.
I never really considered heartworm for the cats, because they're indoors at least 90% of the time and we were just never bothered by mosquitoes outdoors. Till now.
I know now I've got to get them on heartworm protection. I am familiar with what the treatment was a few years ago for dogs, it was one pill a month. Is it the same still, and the same for cats?
Sherry
MaryL - 21 May 2007 06:23 GMT > After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I > imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sherry Yes, it's the same for cats. I use Heartgard (obviously, ask for feline and not canine Heartgard). It is a large, pliable pill which is supposed to be chewable. Well, neither of mine show any interest in voluntarily eating one of those pills! However, they are soft, so I twist and crumble them into tiny pieces and then mix them with either tuna or canned chicken. I also sit and watch the cats eat to make sure that each of them eats the entire pill and *does not* begin to share the other cat's portion. I use Heartgard 12 months of the year, and I give it on the first day of the month to make it easy to remember.
MaryL
jmcquown - 21 May 2007 08:51 GMT > After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I > imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sherry I've been concerned about this, too. With the lovely cool weather Persia has been spending a lot of time in her enclosure. I'm concerned not only about mosquito bites but also about fleas and ticks. She hasn't exhibited any signs of being bitten by anything (me neither!) but I'd rather play it safe with her. What is the least expensive treatment that will deal with both? Advantage? Frontline? Those are the names most frequently bandied about but are there cheaper alternatives?
I have to pick up Persia's food at the vet in the morning so I'll be asking them. But we all know they are as beleagured with sales reps as any doctor who has pharmaceutical salesmen beating down his door. Thought I'd get your opinions, too :)
Jill
Joy - 21 May 2007 08:59 GMT >> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I >> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jill And while we're discussing Frontline and Advantage, does anybody see a difference? If so, which one do you think is best?
Joy
Sherry - 21 May 2007 14:34 GMT > >> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I > >> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Joy- Joy, I have used both. They're both effective. It used to be, about 5 years ago when I used to use Frontline, that the only difference was that Frontline protected against ticks also, and Advantage didn't. I don't know if that is still the case. I had one cat have a reaction to Frontline. He started drooling and panting, and rolling frantically around on the carpet. I started trying to wash it off, and pretty soon the episode stopped. I changed to Advantage and never had a problem with it.
I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused it. Our cats never did get ticks anyway. I bet we have fleas and ticks in the yard this year also, becuase of so much rain and humidity.
Sherry
Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 21 May 2007 17:06 GMT > I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused it. > Our cats never did > get ticks anyway. I bet we have fleas and ticks in the yard this year > also, becuase of > so much rain and humidity. I don't know how ticks breed, but mosquitos need a pool of stagnant water somewhere - the larvae hatch in water, and look a bit like tadpoles (but their tails don't wriggle). I remember once, as a kid, bringing home a whole jarful of them, under the impression they WERE tadpoles (I'd never seen a live tadpole, only pictures). I set the jar on a windowsill and waited for the baby frogs to develop. (We never saw any frogs, but we certainly had a houseful of mosquitos in a very short time!)
Adrian A - 21 May 2007 17:20 GMT >> I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused it. >> Our cats never did [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > never saw any frogs, but we certainly had a houseful of > mosquitos in a very short time!) When I was a kid I used to collect mosquito larvae for my goldfish, they loved them and scoffed the lot in about ten minutes.
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MaryL - 21 May 2007 17:39 GMT >> I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused it. >> Our cats never did [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > waited for the baby frogs to develop. (We never saw any frogs, but we > certainly had a houseful of mosquitos in a very short time!) Yes, mosquitos breed in pools of stagnant water, and there is a remarkable array of places where that can occur -- a watering can left sitting outdoors, for example. I brush all water out of all of my bird baths at least twice a week (usually three times), scrub, and replace with fresh water. I don't think the birds notice, but I do it to get rid of any mosquito larvae.
MaryL
badwilson - 22 May 2007 12:16 GMT >>> I figured it was whatever they added to control ticks that caused >>> it. Our cats never did [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > MaryL Yes, this practice was very important in Thailand. If you have stagnant water inside your house, the mosquitoes that would breed in it would most often carry dengue fever and therefore it was really important to keep that from happening. Never happened with mosquitoes that bred in stagnant water outside, only indoors. I never got it but many people I know did. Not a fun few weeks, that's for sure.
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MaryL - 23 May 2007 00:23 GMT > Yes, this practice was very important in Thailand. If you have stagnant > water inside your house, the mosquitoes that would breed in it would most [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I never got it but many people I know did. Not a fun few weeks, that's > for sure. That's interesting. Do you know why mosquitoes that hatch indoors would dengue fever but not those that breed/hatch outdoors?
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badwilson - 23 May 2007 00:55 GMT >> Yes, this practice was very important in Thailand. If you have >> stagnant water inside your house, the mosquitoes that would breed in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > That's interesting. Do you know why mosquitoes that hatch indoors > would dengue fever but not those that breed/hatch outdoors? I heard it's a different breed of mosquitoes. Also, those indoor breeding, dengue fever carrying ones are out and about during the day and that is when you are likely to get bitten. In the case of Malaria carrying mosquitoes, those bite at dusk or at night and breed outdoors.
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jmcquown - 24 May 2007 17:36 GMT >>> Yes, this practice was very important in Thailand. If you have >>> stagnant water inside your house, the mosquitoes that would breed in [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > carrying mosquitoes, those bite at dusk or at night and breed > outdoors. This reminds me of a joke I heard a comedian do on some night time talk show. If you're trying to get to sleep and you hear a mosquito buzzing around your head, don't worry. Only the males make that buzzing sound and they don't bite. If, on the other hand, you hear *nothing*... ;)
Jill
William Hamblen - 23 May 2007 03:00 GMT >That's interesting. Do you know why mosquitoes that hatch indoors would >dengue fever but not those that breed/hatch outdoors? Mosquitos that breed near people would be more likely to feed on people and spread disease. Each disease has its own vector. I just read a book, America's Plague, about yellow fever, which is spread by the same mosquito as dengue.
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Ted Davis - 21 May 2007 16:27 GMT >>> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I >>> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >And while we're discussing Frontline and Advantage, does anybody see a >difference? If so, which one do you think is best? Advantage doesn't do ticks.
Advantage - fleas
Frontline Plus - fleas and ticks
Revolution - fleas, heartworm (Dirofilaria immitis), ear mites (Otodectes cynotis), intestinal roundworm (Toxocara cati) and hookworm (Ancylostoma tubaeforme).
My big problems are fleas and ticks (a couple of my cats like to spend time in a tick farm - I remove several (dead and dying as well as live) ticks a day from them) so Frontline Plus is my only real option. It is also the least expensive when purchased in largest dog size six-packs from one of the Australian vendors. I also have a tapeworm problem, for which I use Valuecat Allwormer paste, also from an Australian vendor.
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badwilson - 22 May 2007 12:20 GMT >>>> After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I >>>> imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > problem, for which I use Valuecat Allwormer paste, also from an > Australian vendor. Can you tell me the web site for these Australian vendors? I'm in Australia so this would be very helpful for me to save money.
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Ted Davis - 22 May 2007 17:18 GMT >Can you tell me the web site for these Australian vendors? I'm in >Australia so this would be very helpful for me to save money. I don't know that they even do business in Australia, but the vendors I use have US$ oriented web sites at <http://www.deadfleaz.com/> Business: Aussie Pet Direct Contact E-Mail: aussiepet@austarnet.com.au
and <http://www.pawshed.com/> Business: Pawshed Pty Ltd Contact E-Mail: sales@pawshed.com
There are others, but those are the ones I have done business with, and will again. In both cases, payment was via PayPal.
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badwilson - 23 May 2007 01:07 GMT >> Can you tell me the web site for these Australian vendors? I'm in >> Australia so this would be very helpful for me to save money. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > There are others, but those are the ones I have done business with, > and will again. In both cases, payment was via PayPal. Thanks for those. They do seem to ship to Australia. Deadfleaz seems to be cheaper than pawshed. With the exchange rate and shipping, I would save $7 Australian on an Advantage 4 pack over what I pay at my local vet's. It's not a *ton* but still worth considering.
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Matthew - 21 May 2007 10:53 GMT > After such a wet spring we are having a real mosquito epidemic. I > imagine lots of you all in other parts of the country are having more [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Sherry There is a place in Florida called mosquito alley this is not joke the mosquito get so thick they can smother you
Victor Martinez - 21 May 2007 14:14 GMT > I know now I've got to get them on heartworm protection. I am familiar > with what the treatment was a few years ago for dogs, it was one pill > a month. Is it the same still, and the same for cats? We use Revolution, it's a topical medication that protects against fleas, heartworm, hookworm and roundworm.
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Sherry - 21 May 2007 14:29 GMT > > I know now I've got to get them on heartworm protection. I am familiar > > with what the treatment was a few years ago for dogs, it was one pill [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Victor M. Martinez Oh wow, no joke? I didn't know Revolution protected against Heartworm. I should have read the package better. They are already on Revolution. Thanks, Victor.
Sherry
Nadia N. - 21 May 2007 20:29 GMT >> I know now I've got to get them on heartworm protection. I am familiar >> with what the treatment was a few years ago for dogs, it was one pill >> a month. Is it the same still, and the same for cats? > > We use Revolution, it's a topical medication that protects against > fleas, heartworm, hookworm and roundworm. By the way, does anyone know of a reputable site that sells Revolution or HeartGard for cats? I moved to Spain at the end of last year, and so far all the vets here that I have asked about heartworm protection for cats have never heard of any. All they have is medication for dogs :-( So it seems like my only chance of getting my little monster properly protected is to buy some medicine online. But I've heard you should never buy pet medicine online... So if anyone knows of a place online that can be trusted to buy medication from, please let me know.
Nadia N. (and Kotyo)
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Victor Martinez - 21 May 2007 22:38 GMT > By the way, does anyone know of a reputable site that sells Revolution > or HeartGard for cats? I moved to Spain at the end of last year, and so We get it from petscriptions.com, excellent service! Not sure about international shipping though...
> far all the vets here that I have asked about heartworm protection for > cats have never heard of any. All they have is medication for dogs :-( Bear in mind that dog and cat Revolution have the same active ingredient, just in different concentrations and volumes. You can do the math and give each cat the right dosage. We buy the large dog package and divide it among the 7 cats so that each dose has what the regular cat dose does. It's WAY cheaper this way and our vet approves.
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Nadia N. - 21 May 2007 22:52 GMT >> By the way, does anyone know of a reputable site that sells Revolution >> or HeartGard for cats? I moved to Spain at the end of last year, and so [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and divide it among the 7 cats so that each dose has what the regular > cat dose does. It's WAY cheaper this way and our vet approves. Thank you Victor. Unfortunately petscriptions.com seems to only ship within the US. I haven't found any vets here who sell Revolution, either. Mostly they have Advantage, and some Spanish-brand heartworm medicine for dogs which is given in an injection, not a pill. I'll keep looking, though :-)
Nadia and Kotyo
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