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Moving across country with 3 cats, suggestions?

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GeorgeR - 20 May 2007 00:23 GMT
I will fly (Indiana --> California), and one option is to take the cats
as "checked luggage". Problem is that most airlines only accept 2
carriers, and do not allow 2 pets/carrier.

Another option is to ship the cats separately as air cargo, but I'm not
sure how expensive that can be.

A pet moving company not an option because they're too expensive.

If anyone has any suggestions or tips, I'd be very grateful.

Thanks!
Pat - 20 May 2007 01:29 GMT
|I will fly (Indiana --> California), and one option is to take the cats
| as "checked luggage". Problem is that most airlines only accept 2
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|
| If anyone has any suggestions or tips, I'd be very grateful.

Take the two on the plane and pay whatever extra it costs for an extra
"bag". Probably the cheapest way.
GeorgeR - 20 May 2007 01:54 GMT
> |I will fly (Indiana --> California), and one option is to take the cats
> | as "checked luggage". Problem is that most airlines only accept 2
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> Take the two on the plane and pay whatever extra it costs for an extra
> "bag". Probably the cheapest way.

You mean take one as carry-on luggage and the other two as checked luggage?
Pat - 20 May 2007 06:11 GMT
| > Take the two on the plane and pay whatever extra it costs for an extra
| > "bag". Probably the cheapest way.
|
| You mean take one as carry-on luggage and the other two as checked luggage?

That hadn't occurred to me but it might work. What I was thinking was that
you could buy a ticket for the third cat and have it go on the same flight.
But your solution seems even better.
Jack Campin - bogus address - 20 May 2007 01:36 GMT
> I will fly (Indiana --> California), and one option is to take the cats
> as "checked luggage". Problem is that most airlines only accept 2
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> A pet moving company not an option because they're too expensive.
> If anyone has any suggestions or tips, I'd be very grateful.

Ask a student who's going home for their holidays to take one for you?

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Rhonda - 20 May 2007 17:27 GMT
Are you traveling by yourself? Each person can take a cat as carry-on if
the carrier fits under the seat. There is a maximum of cats per cabin so
you have to check that in advance.

I know people who did not want to check their animals in the belly of
the plane, so they flew back and forth to Alaska about 4 times with them
as carry-ons until all animals were delivered.

Rhonda

> I will fly (Indiana --> California), and one option is to take the cats
> as "checked luggage". Problem is that most airlines only accept 2
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>
> Thanks!
GeorgeR - 20 May 2007 17:35 GMT
> Are you traveling by yourself?

Yes.

> I know people who did not want to check their animals in the belly of
> the plane, so they flew back and forth to Alaska about 4 times with them
> as carry-ons until all animals were delivered.

sh.t, that's expensive as hell. Might as well pay a professional service
to do that for you, it'll cost less (I was quoted $1400 for 3 cats!)
Annie Wxill - 21 May 2007 02:32 GMT
>I will fly (Indiana --> California),....
> If anyone has any suggestions or tips, I'd be very grateful.
> Thanks!

Hi, George,

In the last year, we have moved from the East Coast to the Northwest, where
we stayed until the end of February of this year.  Then we moved from the
Northwest to Texas.

Our two cats, Cinder and Rosie moved with us.

For each of these moves, we rented a car with a one-way, unlimited mileage
contract.

Each cat has her own large size hard sided travel crate, big enough for a
small litter box and additional room for the cat to move around.

We went to a few key chain motels and picked up their directories, which let
us know what was in each town where we might stop and that accepted pets.
Then, we signed up for the rewards programs so we could get points for a
free night or airline miles.  Also, ask if they have any discounts, such as
AAA or AARP or whatever memberships you might have. Oh, yeah, ask for a
first-floor room so you won't have to climb stairs.

The downside was that some places charge extra per pet, so it's a good idea
to call ahead (if you have a cell phone) when you are pretty sure where you
will stop so that you can get the best deal.

Most places (even the "budget" type chains) have what they call a
continental breakfast.  It's not much, but you can get coffee, juice,
cereal, packaged pastries, sometimes fresh fruit, sometimes a fresh waffle.
It's free, so we saved some money on breakfasts.

Ask at the desk if they have a baggage cart you can use.  It really helps to
transport the crates and your luggage between the car and the room.

Good luck with your move.

Annie
Enfilade - 21 May 2007 02:51 GMT
> >I will fly (Indiana --> California),....
> > If anyone has any suggestions or tips, I'd be very grateful.
> > Thanks!

We're moving our 4 halfway across Canada in July.  We did it four
years ago, too, moving the opposite direction.  We elected to drive,
so that our animals would be in our care at all times and not
entrusted to airline or train or bus personnel.  We were able to stop
to give them food, water and litter box access when they needed it,
not when it was convenient for the travel company.  We used the net in
advance to find out what hotels would let us stay overnight with our
cats, we put the litter box in the bathroom, and we swept up well
after ourselves.

Smokey got a large dog carrier so he could have a litter box 24/7
(cars make him have to go.)  The kittens were just 6 weeks old on the
last move and so they got water in a bottle to nurse at gas stations
pretty much every hour so they wouldn't dehydrate in a hot car in the
summer.  Nocturne hates the fuss of a car trip and she just wants to
be left alone in a small box, then given some privacy with a litter
box in the hotel at night.

I would ask a lot of questions of an air carrier.  Myself, I don't
think I would be comfortable entrusting my cats to air personnel.

--Fil
GeorgeR - 21 May 2007 03:01 GMT
Thanks Annie, but I'll have to fly. IN->CA is only a 6 hour trip.
jmcquown - 21 May 2007 10:34 GMT
> Thanks Annie, but I'll have to fly. IN->CA is only a 6 hour trip.

Maybe you should consider driving, given the issues with flying the cats.

Jill
GeorgeR - 21 May 2007 14:11 GMT
>> Thanks Annie, but I'll have to fly. IN->CA is only a 6 hour trip.
>
> Maybe you should consider driving, given the issues with flying the cats.

I think that the cats would too stressed by a 3-day drive. I'll have to
find a way to fly with them.
jmcquown - 21 May 2007 17:11 GMT
>>> Thanks Annie, but I'll have to fly. IN->CA is only a 6 hour trip.
>>
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> I think that the cats would too stressed by a 3-day drive. I'll have
> to find a way to fly with them.

You've obviously never met Harri Roadcat :)  Seriously, his human was a
trucker for a while and that cat went everywhere with him!  There are a lot
of people here who have travelled long distances with cats in the car.
Annie even had hers on a boat for a while.

Jill
GeorgeR - 21 May 2007 17:58 GMT
>>>> Thanks Annie, but I'll have to fly. IN->CA is only a 6 hour trip.
>>> Maybe you should consider driving, given the issues with flying the
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> of people here who have travelled long distances with cats in the car.
> Annie even had hers on a boat for a while.

But they'd have to be caged when in the car, right? That's 10-12
hours/day on a cross country trip. And then when you get to a hotel
there are more headaches, the clerk will surely not like to see you walk
in with 3 big cages.
Pat - 21 May 2007 19:00 GMT
| But they'd have to be caged when in the car, right? That's 10-12
| hours/day on a cross country trip. And then when you get to a hotel
| there are more headaches, the clerk will surely not like to see you walk
| in with 3 big cages.

When I traveled cross-country with cats (up to 4 at a time, and once with
six tiny babies in a box as well) I never kept them in cages. We were in a
minivan. They would take turns sharing laps and hiding under the bed in the
back, or snoozing on top of the bed, or laying in the breeze coming from the
vent on the floor.

We rarely stopped at motels but if we did, the cats would just stay in the
van overnight. At any other stops we'd look for a shady parking spot and
leave the windows down about 3" and the screened windows in the back wide
open. We tried to spend nights in spots where the cats could go out for a
while at dusk and dawn each day.

After the first few hours of a trip, the kitties settle down and enjoy the
adventure.
GeorgeR - 21 May 2007 20:22 GMT
> | But they'd have to be caged when in the car, right? That's 10-12
> | hours/day on a cross country trip. And then when you get to a hotel
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> back, or snoozing on top of the bed, or laying in the breeze coming from the
> vent on the floor.

I was told that it is dangerous to have freely moving animals (or
humans) in the vehicle. A sudden brake or a collision will send them
trough the windshield. I am nervous at the thought that one of the cats
may decide to crawl under my feet and block access to the brake pedal or
something.
Pat - 21 May 2007 20:59 GMT
| I was told that it is dangerous to have freely moving animals (or
| humans) in the vehicle. A sudden brake or a collision will send them
| trough the windshield. I am nervous at the thought that one of the cats
| may decide to crawl under my feet and block access to the brake pedal or
| something.

Mine all tried that. It's pretty easy to teach them not to do it. I would
just reach down and push them off to the right side with a very firm "NO!!"

A bowling ball might go "through" a windshield, but a cat sure wouldn't.
I've had to brake suddenly many times while riding with loose cats. Usually
they dig into whatever they can and don't get moved at all. They're pretty
smart, for the most part.

But if it really makes you nervous, just put them in carriers when the car
is moving!
Annie Wxill - 21 May 2007 19:15 GMT
...> But they'd have to be caged when in the car, right? That's 10-12
> hours/day on a cross country trip. And then when you get to a hotel there
> are more headaches, the clerk will surely not like to see you walk in with
> 3 big cages.

Hi George,
First, I want to say that you don't owe me any explanations of how you
choose to travel.  It's easy to see that your first concern is the comfort
of your cats and nobody knows them better than you.  Also, you may have time
constraints on you or maybe you just don't want to drive such long
distances.
But, you might want to ask yourself some questions before you make your
final decision. Such as:

How many hours a day do your cats normally do nothing but sleep?  Maybe
close to 10-12?

Do you have enough time so that you could drive shorter distances and one
more day?

As long as you let the reservation desk know that you are traveling with
three cats, you will not have any problems walking in with 3 big cages.  As
I said before, we collected directories and used our cell phone to call a
couple of hours ahead to reserve a room.  We always told them we were
bringing cats in.  Believe it or not, some of the motel clerks are cat
lovers, too.  It is important, though, to leave the room clean.  A small
hand-held vac, a whisk broom and a dustpan are handy for getting that
tracked litter.

Not only have we traveled with our current cats, we moved from Washington
state to Texas with three cats.

We were amazed how adaptable and what good travelers cats can be.

Anyway, however you choose to go, I wish you a safe and uneventful trip.

Annie
Daniel Mahoney - 21 May 2007 22:47 GMT
> But they'd have to be caged when in the car, right? That's 10-12
> hours/day on a cross country trip. And then when you get to a hotel
> there are more headaches, the clerk will surely not like to see you walk
> in with 3 big cages.

No, actually they don't. We just finished moving from California to Iowa
with 6 cats.

5 of them rode in the van with my wife, and 1 of them (usually Harri
Roadcat) rode in the big rental truck with me. We had carriers available
for all of them, but didn't have to use them often. We stayed mostly at
Super 8 motels, and almost all of them allow pets in the room.

We had a litter box, food dish, and water dish in the back of the van, and
the cats were free to wander the back of the van. They weren't thrilled
about spending 4 days traveling (we had some issues that slowed us down a
bit), but they handled it ok.

Dan
jmcquown - 21 May 2007 23:22 GMT
>> But they'd have to be caged when in the car, right? That's 10-12
>> hours/day on a cross country trip. And then when you get to a hotel
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>
> Dan

And there are a LOT of pet friendly low-cost motels, by the way.  I've been
doing some searches for a friend and Motel 8, Hotel 6 and most of the
Econo-lodges and some Days Inns allow a couple of pets at no extra cost.
Get on towards 4-5 pets, then you're talking a nightly rate for the pet.
They have no idea if your cat/dog is going to spray inside the room, etc. so
that's only fair.

Jill
Annie Wxill - 21 May 2007 23:48 GMT
...> Get on towards 4-5 pets, then you're talking a nightly rate for the
pet.
> They have no idea if your cat/dog is going to spray inside the room, etc.
> so
> that's only fair.
>
> Jill

It would be fair if smokers were charged extra, too.  Or, if the pet charge
was refundable if the room was clean when vacated.

Annie
jmcquown - 21 May 2007 23:55 GMT
> ...> Get on towards 4-5 pets, then you're talking a nightly rate for
> the pet.
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>
> Annie

There are differences.  For one thing, when I check in they know I want a
smoking room; you have to request one in advance.  For another, they don't
inspect the room upon check-out.  They have no idea if the pets made a mess,
liquid or otherwise, or chewed up all the cushions or bedspread or whatever.

Jill
Annie Wxill - 22 May 2007 19:27 GMT
> There are differences.  For one thing, when I check in they know I want a
> smoking room; you have to request one in advance.  For another, they don't
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> whatever.
> Jill

It's really not different.

You also have to let them know in advance that you will have a pet (or pets)
in the room.  They set aside a certain number of rooms where pets are
allowed and others where they are not allowed.  This makes sense when you
consider that some people are allergic to pets and would not want to stay in
a room after someone had been there with a pet.

We always include a no-smoking room in our request.  A room where smoking
is allowed can be expected to have a distinct odor, combined with the
perfumed spray the motel uses to try to cover up that odor.  Either of those
items will cause both Jim and me to have headaches and to cough up phlegm.
Not conducive for a good nights' sleep or comfort in traveling the next day.
So, as those with pet allergies would not want to stay in a room used by
pets, we leave the smoking rooms to the smokers and request a non-smoking
room.

We can always tell if someone has been smoking in a room, but we never have
had a problem with pet odors in a room where pets are allowed.

As for inspecting the room, we stayed at one motel that would refund our pet
charge if we left the room clean.  They said that the cleaning crew reported
the condition of the rooms if they found a pet problem when they went in
after the people checked out. If there was no problem, the motel would take
the pet charge off our credit card, which they did.

However, they did not charge smokers extra in advance or afterwards for the
extra cleaning it takes to maintain those rooms.

My point is not against smokers, but rather that it is can be assumed that
smoking will have an effect beyond normal wear and tear, while pets may, but
most likely won't cause excess damage. I  believe that it costs the same to
clean or replace drapes, for example, that have been sprayed by a cat as it
does to clean or replace drapes that have absorbed smoke.

If someone tears up a room, or allows a pet to do so, that person should be
held responsible for damages, regardless if they smoke or not.  A
non-refundable pet deposit gives the motel the opportunity to jack up the
price and make more money from pet owners with pets that do not cause
damage.  I believe that the potential for damage is not greater for pets
than it is for people.

Perhaps someone here is in the motel business and can refute what I have
stated.

Annie
Stormin Mormon - 23 May 2007 02:28 GMT
I heard of a guy who put a harness on a dog and took him on as a
"seeing eye dog". But I doubt you could do that with a cat.

College student going home for vacation sounds good. Got to be
someone out there about to drive the distance.

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: I will fly (Indiana --> California), and one option is to take the cats
: as "checked luggage". Problem is that most airlines only accept 2
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: Thanks!
 
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