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Has the cost of catfood skyrocketed lately?

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Karen AKA Kajikit - 19 May 2007 18:01 GMT
Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
large bag and one small one), a large bag of Feline Pine, a dozen
small cans of food and a pot of catgrass came to sixty dollars! I was
so taken aback that I asked if the cashier had made a mistake and
double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(
Ketzl's Dad - 19 May 2007 19:18 GMT
> Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
> food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(

I know local economies vary widely, but I just bought a few cans at my
regular place and they're the same price as before.

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Karen - 19 May 2007 19:49 GMT
> Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
> food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(

Here, canned Fancy Feast has jumped at least .03.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 19 May 2007 20:06 GMT
> Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
> food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(

Dunno about Petco (I am nearer to PetsMart, here in
Phoenix), but they charge thrty-five cents a can for
Friskies (although it's often on sale for thirty), while my
nearby Safeway and other supermarkets are up to FIFTY-five!
 (But that's the same as they were charging when I moved
here last November.)

The only "change" I've noticed is that the six ounce cans of
Whiskas have suddenly disappeared, everywhere.  The guy at
PetsMart told me they no longer make it, and all I see
anywhere now are the single-serving pouches and the
"gourmet" variety in the three ounce cans - both of which
cost a great deal more than "normal" Whiskas did.  Is that
state of affairs true in the UK, too, or can you guys still
get the six ounce cans (or even the larger ones for multi
cat families)?
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 May 2007 21:05 GMT
> Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
> food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(

A little while ago I picked up a 13-ounce (368 g) can of super-healthy,
organic-everything cat food, and it was $1.69 for the can!! (Apologies,
I don't know the exchange rates.) I didn't find this out until I was at
the cash register, but I just said, "Oh whatever," they'll have a special
treat tonight. (<snort!> They turned up their noses at it!)

I wouldn't be surprised if all pet food has jumped in price - that seems
like a likely outcome of all the recalls. Everyone's operating costs have
gone up as a result, many companies have lost huge profits, so they're
trying to make that up somehow. But, worst of all, I think that as people
are getting more and more spooked about it, the companies that have not
been affected by the recalls have something of a captive market. I am not
surprised if some of them are gouging a bit - they'll charge what the
market will pay, after all.

Joyce
Christina Websell - 19 May 2007 22:29 GMT
> > Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> > shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> surprised if some of them are gouging a bit - they'll charge what the
> market will pay, after all.

Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but it hasn't
been recalled anywhere AFAIK.  I know it is well researched as there is a
establishment dedicated to that not far from where I live and it is produced
in another plant 12 miles away.  You might consider it while you think about
other options.
My two eat it and like it.  Especially the pouches.  They do dry food too
and both my cats love it but they've only ever had this for treaties.
Boyfie really likes dry best but I am afraid he might block and KFC has only
half her teeth left now.
I have no connection with the company, but the food seems safe and I thought
I would mention it.

Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 May 2007 22:42 GMT
> Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but it hasn't
> been recalled anywhere AFAIK.  I know it is well researched as there is a
> establishment dedicated to that not far from where I live and it is produced
> in another plant 12 miles away.  You might consider it while you think about
> other options.

I feed my cats Friskies, another looked-down-on "junk food" brand.
They have also been spared any recalls, possibly for the same reason.

I've gone through a process over the past few weeks of investigating
what is involved in making my own food for them. Wow, what a maze of
confusing and contradictory information! And all from people who are
extremely opinionated about their own beliefs on what is best for
cats. There seems to be no middle ground.

There are the "raw foods" enthusiasts (a nice word for it :)), who
think cooking meat for a cat is blasphemy. These people are pretty
savvy about nutrition, though, so I have paid attention to them for
that reason, to learn what cats' nutritional needs are. I've also
researched cooked-meat recipes and methods, and have been disappointed
in what I've found - lots of recipes containing potatoes, rice and
other grains, even spices! All things a cat does not need.

At this point, I'm reconsidering whether this is a reasonable course
for me to take. It might just make more sense for me to buy them a
more premium brand. There are some very good brands that haven't been
recalled. If I buy food that has no grains, at least I don't have
to worry about rice protein or wheat gluten or whatever. Although
I also read that some of those companies are recalling because their
food was manufactured at the same places where contaminated food was
made, which raises the risk of cross-contamination...

OY VEY!!! <head spinning>

Joyce
Christina Websell - 19 May 2007 23:10 GMT
> > Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but it
> > hasn't
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> OY VEY!!! <head spinning>

But what is your opinion on feeding Whiskas?

Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 20 May 2007 02:35 GMT
> But what is your opinion on feeding Whiskas?

Well, I've fed my cats a similar diet for most of their lives, so I
can hardly say there's something terrible about it. I would just like
to improve their diet, so I'm looking into better alternatives.

A lot of it depends on cost, too. When I was unemployed, I couldn't
afford a high-quality brand of cat food. I can afford it now, so why
shouldn't my cats benefit from that?

Joyce
jmcquown - 21 May 2007 09:03 GMT
>  > Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but
>  it hasn't > been recalled anywhere AFAIK.  I know it is well
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I feed my cats Friskies, another looked-down-on "junk food" brand.
> They have also been spared any recalls, possibly for the same reason.

I wish I could feed Persia "junk food"!  The cost of her r/x food is going
to send me to the poor house!

> I've gone through a process over the past few weeks of investigating
> what is involved in making my own food for them. Wow, what a maze of
> confusing and contradictory information!
>
> There are the "raw foods" enthusiasts (a nice word for it :)), who
> think cooking meat for a cat is blasphemy.

I notice most cats don't turn their noses up at cooked meat or seafood,
though! :)  But Persia can't stand tuna; I can't quite figure that out.  Of
course you're talking about nutrition.  I posted some "recipes" a few months
back; maybe Google will turn up the thread for you.

> At this point, I'm reconsidering whether this is a reasonable course
> for me to take. It might just make more sense for me to buy them a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Joyce
Jack Campin - bogus address - 19 May 2007 23:26 GMT
> Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but
> it hasn't been recalled anywhere AFAIK. [...]
> My two eat it and like it.  Especially the pouches.

I don't think any of the Whiskas tinned foods contain cereal products,
so they shouldn't be affected by the current problems.

The reason we got contaminated food is because the manufacturers were
making it on the cheap.  Now the regulators have stepped in they can't
pull the same tricks.  Of course that's going to make it more expensive.

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Sherry - 20 May 2007 00:31 GMT
On May 19, 4:29 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> <jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
> Tweed- Hide quoted text -

I don't think anyone should turn their nose up at Whiskas. It's one of
the few
brands I still trust, next to Purina. Our cats like it, and they are
pretty picky.

Sherry
Marina - 20 May 2007 05:40 GMT
> Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but it hasn't
> been recalled anywhere AFAIK.  I know it is well researched as there is a
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I have no connection with the company, but the food seems safe and I thought
> I would mention it.

I have a stash of Whiskas for Caliban for those days when I don't have
enough fresh meat to feed both cats. The newest kind of Whiskas pouch
(called mmmmMMM - give or take a few Ms) has a lower ash content than
the older ones, so it looks like it's very good nutritionally. I don't
worry about giving that to Caliban at all, and I'm sure you've all
noticed how paranoid I am about cat food by now. :)

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 20 May 2007 22:58 GMT
> Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but it hasn't
> been recalled anywhere AFAIK.  I know it is well researched as there is a
> establishment dedicated to that not far from where I live and it is produced
> in another plant 12 miles away.  You might consider it while you think about
> other options.

I've never "turned up my nose at it"!  Au contraire, that
and Friskies (a product of Purina) are mostly what I feed my
girls.  However, when I went to PetsMart last week to
replenish my supplies, all the Whiskas brand they had were
the single serving pouches and the expensive little cans of
"gourmet" food.  Apparently their factory in the U.S. has
stopped making the six ounce cans of "ordinary" catfood
(like Kitty Stew, Lamb and Rice, Veal, Catfish, and a couple
others my girls like and no one else makes).  Is that true
in the UK, too, or is it only here?
Jack Campin - bogus address - 20 May 2007 23:55 GMT
> when I went to PetsMart last week to
> replenish my supplies, all the Whiskas brand they had were
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> others my girls like and no one else makes).  Is that true
> in the UK, too, or is it only here?

Those flavours never have been available here.  At the moment we
have 390g cans of Supermeat Original and Supermeat with Chicken.
Our lot like them and they have no cereal products listed among
the ingredients.  I haven't bought half-size cans for years.

Lidl's Opticat is the best deal at the moment, but only some of
the flavours are cereal-free.

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jmcquown - 21 May 2007 09:05 GMT
>> Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but
>> it hasn't been recalled anywhere AFAIK.  I know it is well
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> others my girls like and no one else makes).  Is that true
> in the UK, too, or is it only here?

Isn't that always the way?!  You find something you (or your cats, or both!)
like and they stop selling it.  Drives me nuts.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 21 May 2007 16:56 GMT
>>>Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but
>>>it hasn't been recalled anywhere AFAIK.  I know it is well
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Isn't that always the way?!  You find something you (or your cats, or both!)
> like and they stop selling it.  Drives me nuts.

A friend and I experienced that phenomenon so often, we
jokingly discussed going into business as "product testers"
- if we LIKED a product, it would be a fair bet it "wouldn't
sell", and be discontinued.  ;-)  We figured we could save
the manufacturers a great deal of promotion time and money
(and maybe get lifetime supplies of the products we liked
and no one else did)!
Christina Websell - 21 May 2007 20:26 GMT
>> Well, I know most of you USAians turn up your noses at Whiskas but it
>> hasn't been recalled anywhere AFAIK.  I know it is well researched as
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Veal, Catfish, and a couple others my girls like and no one else makes).
> Is that true in the UK, too, or is it only here?

The small cans are only available here in kitten food variety.  We get 15 oz
cans, but not in the varieties you mention.  Ours are much more mundane.
Veal would get customer resistance, h*ll, most of us won't eat it ourself,
let alone feed our pets on it.  The way it is produced is considered to be
cruel.

Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 21 May 2007 21:18 GMT
> Veal would get customer resistance, h*ll, most of us won't eat it ourself,
> let alone feed our pets on it.  The way it is produced is considered to be
> cruel.

I haven't eaten it in decades for that reason, although I have to admit
that "giving up" veal wasn't a huge sacrifice for me, as I never was that
fond of it to begin with.

Of course, if I were truly consistent, I wouldn't eat any meat because
it's all raised cruelly, IMO. But lately I've tried to find organic
free-range meat - not easy to find, but I did locate a good store. I
hear that this isn't perfect either, but it is better.

Joyce
Christina Websell - 21 May 2007 22:02 GMT
> > Veal would get customer resistance, h*ll, most of us won't eat it
> > ourself,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Of course, if I were truly consistent, I wouldn't eat any meat because
> it's all raised cruelly, IMO.

There is no way at all I would eat veal.  Calves are confined to a small
crate and forced to drink milk only, long after they should be eating hay
and concentrates, even grass, just to keep the meat white.

Beef and lamb here is raised on grass fields.  Poultry is very iffy.

Tweed

 But lately I've tried to find organic
> free-range meat - not easy to find, but I did locate a good store. I
> hear that this isn't perfect either, but it is better.
>
> Joyce
Mishi - 20 May 2007 01:13 GMT
> > Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> > shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>Joyce

I buy what ever is the cheapest, excluding some of the store brands.
It isn't worth spending $ and having your cats turn up their noses at
it! In my area, Whiskas seems to run between 35 to 40 cents for a 5.5
oz can. That is quite a bit higher than either 9 lives (4 for 1.22) or
Friskies, which is now on sale at PetSmart for 30 cents a can.  For
dry, I buy my inside cats Nutro Max Roasted Chicken, and they like it
quite well. My outside cats get Friskies, 9 Lives or Purina Cat Chow.
The reason I don't feed them a premium food is that I will be d*mned
if I am going to make a possum or racoon fatter on it! They do ok, and
are quite adept at catching mice. Birds are just a bit too fast for
them.

Mishi
Ginger-lyn - 19 May 2007 22:20 GMT
> Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
> food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(

I heard on the news here that prices at grocery stores are dramatically
climbing (weather and gas prices being two of the excuses).  Just what
we need now.

Ginger-lyn
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 May 2007 22:30 GMT
> > Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> > shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
> > food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(

> I heard on the news here that prices at grocery stores are dramatically
> climbing (weather and gas prices being two of the excuses).  Just what
> we need now.

Maybe because gas prices have gone up? Cost of shipping stuff, etc?

Joyce
Ginger-lyn - 20 May 2007 22:03 GMT
>  > Karen AKA Kajikit wrote:
>  > > Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Joyce

Exactly what I was thinking, too.

Ginger-lyn
Sherry - 19 May 2007 22:22 GMT
> Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
> food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(

I haven't noticed that here, Karen. Fancy Feast even went down a
penny. Go figure that.

Sorry to hear that though. Petsmart seems high sometimes, unless
they've got a
sale on. I try to stock up on litter when they do have a sale, but
unless you've
got room to store it, that can be a hassle. (we don't have Petcos, but
I understand
they're a lot like Petsmart)

Sherry

Sherry
Daniel Mahoney - 23 May 2007 20:50 GMT
> Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
> shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> double-charged me for something... but nope. Everything bar the canned
> food has gone up a dollar or two since last time we shopped there. :(

We ran into the Petco in Des Moines over the weeekend and got a similar
shock. 4 large bags of Feline Pine and a big bag of kibble came to just
over $70. Ouch!
Mishi - 24 May 2007 03:41 GMT
>> Or is it just Petco? I went to buy cat supplies today and I was
>> shocked that a perfectly ordinary load of Science Diet kibble (one
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>shock. 4 large bags of Feline Pine and a big bag of kibble came to just
>over $70. Ouch!

Hi Dan,

I have found that horse pellet bedding works just as well as feline
pine, and is much cheaper. I buy them at the local Tractor Supply, but
any feed store should have it.  I pay 6.00+tax for a 40 lb bag. The
pellets aren't uniform, but my guys don't care. <G>

Mishi
 
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