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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / June 2007Eli buries his gas
I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, turned around and covered over the empty hole. Silly cat!!! Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... >I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one > over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, > turned around and covered over the empty hole. > > Silly cat!!! Oh my god, that must have been hilarious! LOL! Lily & her mama  SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time. > Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... > I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one > over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... OMG that's funny! SignatureRemember: It is To Laugh > I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one > over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... IMHO He probably had a tummyache A little sympathy here, please. MLB >I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one >over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... My cats make no sounds when farting so I thought they didn't because they have no cheeks. No mistaking the smell though. Debra in VA See my quilts at http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere >>I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one >>over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > See my quilts at > http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Cats CAN and DO make noise when farting. Weeble, when just a couple days old, and it was only the second time he pooped for me. I thought he was done, and I had cleaned his bottom... and then I smelled more poop... I looked at his behind and he farted IN MY FACE. It was a tiny (but ultra-smelly) little "put". Smokey does a "fweeeeeeeeeeeeee" sound sometimes when she's in the litter box. I think of it as an advance warning system, and all cats should come equipped with them, especially Ping, who's poop is so smelly, even he won't stay in the litter box to burry it (he wants to get AWAY from that smell)! > > My cats make no sounds when farting so I thought they didn't because > > they have no cheeks. No mistaking the smell though. Weeble, when just a couple days old, and it was only the second time he > pooped for me. I thought he was done, and I had cleaned his bottom... and > then I smelled more poop... I looked at his behind and he farted IN MY FACE. > It was a tiny (but ultra-smelly) little "put". stay in the litter box to burry it (he wants to get AWAY from that smell)!- I have found that during especially...ummm..."gassy" times, my kitties--or even Loki the d*g surprisingly--don't care to sit on my lap. Some of their expressions of dismay have been priceless.LOL PatM Boy, can they make noise. I'm also convince they can fart at will. My favorite example is Odessa's first visit to our vet. Odessa had had issues, having been returned to the shelter several times, and at this point any trip out of the house seemed to remind her of those trips and she was always quite agitated. After giving her the complete once over, the doctor decided to take a look under her tail, and at the precise moment he lifted it (and bent down forn a closer look) the Odessa-Doll let fly with one of the loudest and most obnoxious catfarts I have ever experienced. It was decidedly audible, though that was not its most distinct feature; the vet backed off several feet, and the tech opened and shut the door several times in succession to try to fan out the bouquet that penetrated and permeated. Odessa, the most delicate of our Ladies, to this day can fart like a truck driver after a couple of plates of stuffed cabbage at a stop along some remote stretch of Thruway imaginatively called "Eats..." Note to myseft: pick up a can of Glade. Blessed be, Baha >>>I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one >>>over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >equipped with them, especially Ping, who's poop is so smelly, even he won't >stay in the litter box to burry it (he wants to get AWAY from that smell)! > I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one > over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... ROFL! That is too funny. Way to go, Eli. Ginger-lyn Pat wrote: > I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one > over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, > turned around and covered over the empty hole. That's hilarious. Did he write "Here I sit, broken-hearted, tried to sh*t, but only farted" on the inside of the litter box? :) Joyce > Pat wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce That shows how young *you* are. In my day (the days of pay toilets) we said: "Here I sit broken hearted; paid a dime and only farted." SignatureJoey DoWop Dee Remember: It is To Laugh >> Did he write "Here I sit, broken-hearted, tried to sh*t, but only >> farted" on the inside of the litter box? :) > That shows how young *you* are. In my day (the days of pay toilets) > we said: "Here I sit broken hearted; paid a dime and only farted." Hey, I'll take the label of "young" wherever I can get it. :) Joyce >> Pat wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >That shows how young *you* are. In my day (the days of pay toilets) we said: >"Here I sit broken hearted; paid a dime and only farted." As long as we're on a theme: "In days of old when Knights were bold there was no toilet paper. They'd drag their a.s across the grass and blast the bugs with vapor." :-D Signatureannoyed@net.spammers Craig, Kathi & "Cat Five" the tabby girl >>> Pat wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > "In days of old when Knights were bold there was no toilet paper. They'd > drag their a.s across the grass and blast the bugs with vapor." :-D <pretending not to laugh> I think this thread is taking a turn for the worse... and considering the starting point (funny as it was) that is dangerous! SignatureJoey DoWop Dee Remember: It is To Laugh I'm curious to see how much time myself and others spend on this. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : >> "Here I sit broken hearted; paid a dime and only farted." : > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] : worse... and considering the starting point (funny as it was) that is : dangerous! I do remember a couple of witty ones from public walls, but they may not be suited for all audiences. "You who write upon these walls.... " SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : That shows how young *you* are. In my day (the days of pay toilets) we said: : "Here I sit broken hearted; paid a dime and only farted." >Pat wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Joyce Wow! That's a real blast (so to speak ;)) from the past. ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War "And now news at 11, this is Pat, your roving reporter with the <pfft> blow by blow report! <pbbb> Well, folks, that's one and a half!! Details following the report from our urban division who reports that cow flatulence is up 12% this week, possibly due to diet changes. Stay tuned." . : ROFL! That is too funny. Way to go, Eli. : : Ginger-lyn With dozens of TV channels, books to read, homeless missions needing help, scriptures to study, lawn to mow, the roof that leaks in the back, and millions of web pages to surf. And you choose to spend your time watching your cat take a dump, counting the farts, and then gleefully writing about it on a public message board. With dozens of TV channels, books to read, homeless missions needing help, scriptures to study, lawn to mow, the roof that leaks in the back, and millions of web pages to surf, I'm reading about farting cats. Egads, next thing I'll be reading National Enquirer. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : I was scooping one of the litter boxes when Eli climbed into the next one : over, dug a hole, turned around, squatted over the hole, farted twice, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... When I turn on my TV I hear about people dying and gas prices going up; I hear about senior citizens eating Alpo because their medicines are too expensive, because we can't get a nationalized health system; I hear about climate damage and the rape of our own Earth, committed by Her children, and She is getting pissed at us. If we did not have something to laugh at for just a moment to relieve the grimness of it, many of us would lose our heads to inevitable depression. On a practical matter, remember a cat cannot speak the language of its two- legged servants and we must be vigilant stewardsw of the animals God/dess gave us; and one of those ways is to check its gas and waste. If there's a problem, call a vet and NOW; if not, laugh, because we need something to laugh at in the midst of all that goes on. And I DO read my scriptures. Blessed be, Baha >With dozens of TV channels, books to read, homeless missions >needing help, scriptures to study, lawn to mow, the roof that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >: >: Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... Thank you both. I wouldn't have seen the spew had Baha cut if off, but because I did see it, here's a message for the spewer: I get *one* TV channel. I can't find my glasses (again). I already spend too damned much time on the puter, and I was NOT "watching the cat take a dump" I was CLEANING a litter box and happened to see it. So I ask you: |>With dozens of TV channels, books to read, homeless missions | >needing help, scriptures to study, lawn to mow, the roof that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | >about farting cats. Egads, next thing I'll be reading National | >Enquirer. | When I turn on my TV I hear about people dying and gas prices going up; I | hear about senior citizens eating Alpo because their medicines are too [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] | >: | >: Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... Stormin Mormon wrote: > With dozens of TV channels, books to read, homeless missions > needing help, scriptures to study, lawn to mow, the roof that > leaks in the back, and millions of web pages to surf, I'm reading > about farting cats. Egads, next thing I'll be reading National > Enquirer. <shrug> No one's forcing you to read this newsgroup. And I sure wouldn't miss you if you left. Joyce I seldom watch TV any more. The news is stories of crime, and people dying. The gas prices go up because environmentalists are interfering with business. They don't want us drilling, they won't want any new refineries, and then they complain that the gasoline is in short supply. Then, damn fools make up crock of nonsense about about senior citizens eating Alpo (which is more expensive than people food). And then people complain that medicine is so expensive, but they don't want free market competition to keep quality up and take prices down. Would you believe some folks think a nationalized health system would improve things? We can be just like Canada, where they come here for care. Or England, where they wait ages for care. Our health care could be as bad as the DMV and post office. And the news stories are full of scares about climate damage (not hearing from the other scientists who say that the planet is actually stable.) Yep, I can use a good laugh. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : When I turn on my TV I hear about people dying and gas prices going up; I : hear about senior citizens eating Alpo because their medicines are too [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] : >: : >: Or, maybe not silly. Maybe cats see gases as solid.... >I seldom watch TV any more. The news is stories of crime, and >people dying. The gas prices go up because environmentalists are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >nonsense about about senior citizens eating Alpo (which is more >expensive than people food). Hello??? When have you taken care of seniors and actually seen it? Don't dare to call me a damn fool. I have taken care of such people and seen the horrors of living as a poor senior, and for many years. And a newsflash for people who don't want to build refineries: GET YOUR a.ses TO BUFFALO AND OPEN UP THE ONES WE HAVE HERE! We could use the employment And then people complain that >medicine is so expensive, but they don't want free market >competition to keep quality up and take prices down. Would you >believe some folks think a nationalized health system would >improve things? We can be just like Canada, where they come here >for care. Or England, where they wait ages for care. Go to England and ask how they feel. My friend moved there and she has been getting consistent prenatal care, and she's not even a regular citizen yet. This woman had a complicated pregnancy. In the meantime, my friend Olive, disabled, is still fighting for the benefits and care that is the right of a person who CAN'T GODDAMN WALK, are you understanding at all? We are not taking care of our own people. It's a shame and a crime. Stop hiding behind your priesthood authority, stop thinking you're anything other than a man who puts his pants on one leg at a time like any other schmuck out there, and look in your own backyard. You have brought your friends food in times of crisis (and we remain appreciative of that gesture) but YOU go and read the scriptures yourself: Jesus said even the unbelievers do that much for the ones they love. What are you doing for the poor? For the poor man whom you don't even know? Are youi going to find an anonymous Olive and give her a cane to stand on? How about a job so she can be productive, jobs for everyone so we all can be productive? Don't go blaming environmentalists and don't call me a damn fool until you do your research. Keep thinking that we don't have a right to health care regardless of our economic condition, and see how many women keep on NOT seeing you more than three times. Anyone who wants a baby is going to want that health care and you have a choice: that van that chews up three miles to the gallon or a kid's vaccines. If you want both, you'd better consider changing to Christian Science. (Remember to google Mary Baker Eddy, not L. Ron Hubbard.) Our health >care could be as bad as the DMV and post office. And the news >stories are full of scares about climate damage (not hearing from >the other scientists who say that the planet is actually stable.) The Buffalo storm last year is an indicator of climate change. Do your damn research. Or just start being part of the solution, instead of hiding behind the cosmetic of your "authority" and pretending the problems don't exist. Blessed be, Baha I glanced through your post, last night. The raw anger really reached through the video screen. I printed off your post, and read it in print. I thought about it last night, and went through about five or six different ways of replying. Finally, I decided that I'm far too polite for usenet. In the good tradition of usenet, when flamed and insulted and attacked bitterly and viciously, one needs to reply with equal vitriol and fire. This morning, I want through with a pen, and put points every time I saw something that really begeed for a reply. I came up with twenty three points. I'll number them below. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : >I seldom watch TV any more. The news is stories of crime, and : >people dying. The gas prices go up because environmentalists are [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : : Hello??? When have you taken care of seniors and actually seen it? 1) Don't have to take care of seniors to know that Alp is more expensive than people food. When this pile of lies came out, was about the time Rush Lumbaugh had his TV show. He did a price comparision on the air. Don't dare : to call me a damn fool. 2) Are you the person who came up with that campaign schtick about seniors eating dog food? Must be. Cause that's the damn fool. How'd you get the word out? Are you on a focuss group for the DNC? Did you write the idea to DNC headquarters, or call them on the phone and give them the idea? I have taken care of such people and seen the horrors : of living as a poor senior, and for many years. And a newsflash for people : who don't want to build refineries: GET YOUR a.ses TO BUFFALO AND OPEN UP THE : ONES WE HAVE HERE! We could use the employment 3) Now I'm calling for proof. I want you to prove to me that there are two or more gasoline refineries in Buffalo which are not in operation. I want the name of the former company, and the street adress. I'm going to call City Zoning when I find out, and ask if that's true. : And then people complain that : >medicine is so expensive, but they don't want free market [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : Go to England and ask how they feel. 4) Don't have to. Read enough news articles. And isn't there a woman named Leslie who posts to this board, and tells of medical care in England? My friend moved there and she has been : getting consistent prenatal care, and she's not even a regular citizen yet. : This woman had a complicated pregnancy. In the meantime, my friend Olive, : disabled, is still fighting for the benefits and care that is the right of a : person who CAN'T GODDAMN WALK, are you understanding at all? 5) Now you are committing a logical fallacy. You are the angry poster who is accusing me of not doing my research. And to prove YOUR point, you use two samples (Olive and the other girl) without any attempt to make a representative sampling. You can't push that lazy good for nothing lack of evidence off on me. You are really insulting if you think I'm going to fall for that non scientific lack of evidence. Try it on a different turnip truck, thank you. We are not : taking care of our own people. 6) And who the heck is responsible? I presume you're still talking about Olive. Family, friends, church. One of the nice things about being a free person in the USA, you are responsible for yourself. And if you really think that people should give away stuff for free, YOU give Olive a cane. It's a shame and a crime. 7) It may be a shame, but it's no crime. The USA isn't responsible for peoples medical care, and I'll oppose any form of socialized medicine. Stop hiding behind : your priesthood authority, stop thinking you're anything other than a man who : puts his pants on one leg at a time like any other schmuck out there, 8) You know, that personal attack has happened before. I heard from Bishop Clark that when you called and complained about me, you said the same thing. Maybe not worded exactly "hiding behind" but you made a false accusation back then about using priesthood authority. You told at least one total lie back then to Bishop Clark. When I went to see Marilyn, priesthood was never mentioned -- until YOU injected it into the conversation and made false accusations. And here you make the same accusation. I forgave you the first time, but this time needs a really serious look. One thing I do not tolerate very well is false accusations. The first time I sensed strongly that you were launching a vicious attack personally on me. I sense that this is much the same thing. I'm sending a copy of this to Bishop Clark via email in case you want to launch another such attack. It's long past time for me to consider whether you and I are friends. If you keep attacking me. and : look in your own backyard. 9) Ah, the smug accusation of "you don't know what you are talking about". Well, have fun, and keep hurling accusations. Incidentally, I don't think you really know what you're talking about. You are a walking talking-point for the liberal Democrats. You have brought your friends food in times of : crisis (and we remain appreciative of that gesture) 10) You only know on very small part of my personality. And I wonder if you even know that. but YOU go and read the : scriptures yourself: 11) Oh, and now more cleverly concealed accusations. It's as if you're going to lecture me on the points of scipture. I'm all aquiver, I can't wait to read more. Jesus said even the unbelievers do that much for the : ones they love. What are you doing for the poor? For the poor man whom you : don't even know? 12) More than you'll ever know about. And, even more signifigant. My type of help isn't designed to continue dependance like you and your dreams of socialized medicine and a case worker in every home dispensing government money. Are youi going to find an anonymous Olive and give her a : cane to stand on? 13) That's the liberal approach. Give people stuff, and keep them dependant for handouts. How about a job so she can be productive, jobs for everyone : so we all can be productive? 14) And you demonstrate how little you know about me. Back in the Reagan economy, when money was moving about. And taxes were a lot lower, I did hire help for a short period of time. My most dependable worker was a very fine woman who was severely handicapped. At present, after eight years of Clinton tax increases the economy is so bad that I can't aford my own bills much less hire help. Don't go blaming environmentalists 15) If we didn't have environmentalists protesting drilling and refineries, we'd have enough gasoline at fair prices. and don't : call me a damn fool until you do your research. 16) Hey, anyone who thinks up and markets the "seniors eating dog food" schtick is a damn fool. People food is cheaper. : Keep thinking that we don't have a right to health care regardless of our : economic condition, 17) I don't think we have a right to health care. You find a copy of the US Constitution and show me the place where it recognizes the right of people to have health care. and see how many women keep on NOT seeing you more than : three times. 18) Oh, what this conversation really needs. More personal attacks. I bet you finished writing this email and came home with four shopping buggies full of lipstick and nail polish? Then you called the government and asked them to bring you some more Alpo cause you spent all your money on lipstick? Anyone who wants a baby is going to want that health care and : you have a choice: that van that chews up three miles to the gallon or a : kid's vaccines. If you want both, you'd better consider changing to Christian : Science. (Remember to google Mary Baker Eddy, not L. Ron Hubbard.) 19) Now that's a good liberal way to look at it: Choose between a van or a vaccine. However, as a conservative I look at that van as a way to make more money, so that I can afford to pay for both the van and the vaccine. And even some cosmetics. How pathetic, that you are so limited in your thinking. I can see a dynamic, vital, and growing economy. You are aparently thinking that everything stands still. Well, during Clinton and his tax increase, everything did stand still. You should be old enough to remember the Reagan economic boom when the tax cuts were in full force. : Our health : >care could be as bad as the DMV and post office. And the news : >stories are full of scares about climate damage (not hearing from : >the other scientists who say that the planet is actually stable.) : : The Buffalo storm last year is an indicator of climate change. 20) It sure was more stormy than last year. However, we've had storms and ice ages and heat waves LONG before any pollution that Mankind did. Climate change? Yep. Caused by mankind? Nope. Do your damn : research. 21) How many articles would you like me to post? Writen by real scientists? Or just start being part of the solution, 22) I am quite part of the solution. However, liberals will never be able to see that, because they are too busy petitionign the government for socialized medicine and for the govenment to "take care of them". instead of hiding behind : the cosmetic of your "authority" 23) As Ronald Reagan said so many years ago "well.... there you go again". You really appear to have a problem with injecting priesthood into conversations where it isn't already existing. and pretending the problems don't exist. 24) Plenty of problems do exist in the USA. You're the one who is pretending that "Scaring seniors first" isn't a problem. The schtick about dog food is really classic. I choose to spend my time on real problems, such as improving employment, job training, and doing what I can to help people take care of themselves instead of relying on government. : Blessed be, : Baha 25) And make my blessing without the government giving me stuff, and without government control telling me everything I may or may not do. Please keep in mind that you were the one who came on first and began insulting these people who have done nothing to you. Also keep in mind that I had several years working with the poor and seniors and the things they must do to keep themselves medicated and healthy are gross. And we are to promise life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness then yes, we have a responsibility to take care of our own. "The poor you will always have with you." Leslie's experience notwithstanding, we can learn from Canada and the UK. Hopefully they do not have a Rush Limbaugh to export, as we unfortunately do. Liberal Democrat, yes. It is my right as a citizen to differ in opinion from you; soldiers whom we hon or this weekend died for my right to differ and because I love my country i want to change the status quo to help those who need it. And yes, I am angry. Not at you. I am angry that people like the one from whom we rescued Sabrina can get undeserved benefits while real people cannot find work and their needed help: because the Republican business interests have decided that New York is not a place to build economic growth. The refineries are in Tonawanda, call my husband because you know I cannot read a road map. Please keep in mind that this is not a political forum Get a cat or something. Please. Blessed be, Baha >I glanced through your post, last night. The raw anger really >reached through the video screen. I printed off your post, and [quoted text clipped - 211 lines] >and without government control telling me everything I may or may >not do. > we can learn from Canada and the UK. Hopefully they do not > have a Rush Limbaugh to export, as we unfortunately do. We have Bernard Manning, who is much the same (fat racist comedian with a following of ageing skinheads) but he would appeal to the average American about as much as, um, Rush Limbaugh does to the average American. They would both mince up to make a lot of dogfood. Cats are too discerning. ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 And furthermore, the lipstick in this case isn't about vanity, it is about having something with high sun-protection factor which can save the life of a sun-allergic person, whose problem is complicated by medication causing photosensitivity. You ought to know that about me by now. I am on a waiting list to see a dermatologist to have moles removed, and God forbid they be melanomas beause that waiting list can kill me. Take note: we wait here, too. Everyone waits. Despite this, I'd rather be in this land now than a lot of other places. Blessed be, Baha >Please keep in mind that you were the one who came on first and began >insulting these people who have done nothing to you. Also keep in mind that I [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>and without government control telling me everything I may or may >>not do. > Please keep in mind that you were the one who came on first and began > insulting these people who have done nothing to you. Also keep in [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Blessed be, > Baha <SNIP> Many of us have killfiled that idiot, please don't repost his trash. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Apologies to all. I was on break and forgot to delete that mishegoss. Blessed be, Baha >> Please keep in mind that you were the one who came on first and began >> insulting these people who have done nothing to you. Also keep in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Many of us have killfiled that idiot, please don't repost his trash. > Apologies to all. I was on break and forgot to delete that mishegoss. > > Blessed be, > Baha Easily done. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk 1) Insulting those who have done nothing to you. Well, whoever it was who invented the seniors dog food thing sure scared a lot of people. And I don't believe properly so. 2) Responsibility to take care of our own. Show me that in the constitution. Where the US Gov't owes the people anything. There's a list of limits on gov't and some things it should provide. Such as national defense. I don't remember seeing health care. That's one thing I don't like about liberals. Put things into the Constitution which aren't there. Such as right to abortion or separation of church and state. 3) help yourself, and try to change the country. But please don't try to convince me that goverment run health care will help anyone. What will help is more freedom and more capitalism. And more privately run health care. 4) Why do you think you've got the power and authority to judge who is deserving of benefits? You realize, that if we get national health care, someone in government will decide who gets benefits. And that might also not be who you want to see getting aid. 5) After a few years of Cuomo and his tax hikes, I'm not at all surprised business is leaving NY. Pataki didn't do much better. 6) Are you discussing, or making personal attacks? I'll quote some of your writing, and you can tell me if you think the (below) is slams and personal attacks. If I read it right, you attacked my religion, my romantic life, and my ability to accurately view the world. Now, lets see. I said "damn fools" about folks who invented the senior Alpo. You attack my religion, personal life, and view of the world. For folks reading this, who is the angry shrill and vicious one in this conversation? Any why do I continue to be in contact with an angry, shrill person who attacks my religion, romance, and view of the world? =======quoted text============= Stop hiding behind your priesthood authority, stop thinking you're anything other than a man who puts his pants on one leg at a time like any other schmuck out there, and look in your own backyard. What are you doing for the poor? For the poor man whom you don't even know? Are youi going to find an anonymous Olive and give her a cane to stand on? How about a job so she can be productive, jobs for everyone so we all can be productive? Don't go blaming environmentalists and don't call me a damn fool until you do your research. Keep thinking that we don't have a right to health care regardless of our economic condition, and see how many women keep on NOT seeing you more than three times. Do your damn research. Or just start being part of the solution, instead of hiding behind the cosmetic of your "authority" and pretending the problems don't exist. Blessed be, Baha Signature========previous message============= : Please keep in mind that you were the one who came on first and began : insulting these people who have done nothing to you. Also keep in mind that I [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] : Blessed be, : Baha > 2) Responsibility to take care of our own. Show me that in the > constitution. Oh, heck, man: You should read the Bible once in a while. Jerk. SignatureJoey DoWop Dee Remember: It is To Laugh Dear Jerk, We're discussing US Federal government programs. Taxing people by force, to provide services and money to people who don't work for it. Programs that continue dependence. If we were discussing biblical principles, we'd be talking about voluntary tithes and donations being used to help poor people to better themselves. I'm a big supporter of church sponsored aid. Actually, I support it with money, labor, time, tithes, offerings, and several other ways. I don't support government programs which give money away, and continue dependence. However, that's forced on me by threat of arms. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : > 2) Responsibility to take care of our own. Show me that in the : > constitution. : : Oh, heck, man: You should read the Bible once in a while. : : Jerk. > Dear Joey, > We're discussing US Federal government programs. Taxing [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > and continue dependence. However, that's forced on me by threat > of arms. So go somewhere else, where you think it's better. I'm not going to get into a lengthy discussion with you about this because obviously you're a meathead, a bigot and a religion hypocrite. SignatureJoey DoWop Dee Remember: It is To Laugh I am amused at how the thread on Eli burying his gas in his litter box has deteriorated into discussing politics. Lily's mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time. >> Dear Joey, >> We're discussing US Federal government programs. Taxing [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > I'm not going to get into a lengthy discussion with you about this because > obviously you're a meathead, a bigot and a religion hypocrite. > I am amused at how the thread on Eli burying his gas > in his litter box has deteriorated into discussing > politics. > > Lily's mama LOL! Thank you for pointing that out. Let's back to the real issue: Cats passing gas. SignatureJoey DoWop Dee Remember: It is To Laugh I can only say where there is written a right to Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness, we are obliged to help give life to those who might otherwise suffer, and that will include the poor. I would be a lousy Sikh if I didn't do my part and any Christian would be a poor example of his faith if he too turned his back. I can't deal with this political crap. You're about as close to a fascist as I have ever known, and you know what? My parents were imprisoned by the most famous fascist who ever tried to invade Poland. This is why I am a Liberal Democrat. Forget Jesus; Fran and Mike Szczepanski along with more than six million others suffered for Hitler's sins and from them. These six million and the soldiers whom wew remember today died for the right to believe as we do, however differently. I do not insult your religion because you have a right to it; but I do say you have an attitude that can alienate women and men both, and until you can learn to keep the political stuff in its context and broaden your mind there will be an awful lot of Tweeds coming out and feeling ashamed of LDS roots. A person I know has in fact canceled missionary lessons after stumbling on unpleasantries that could be understood as representative of the whole instead of an individual. My cat farted last night and I thank God I was here to enjoy it and not in a Nazi camp or any other place where my beliefs would be a crime. Louie and I both are damn glad to be citizens. Blessed be, Baha On May 27, 10:25 am, "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Dear Jerk, > We're discussing US Federal government programs. Taxing [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > : > : Jerk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law There is a tradition in many online discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's Law. Thus Godwin's Law effectively serves to impose an upper bound on thread length in general. It is considered poor form to raise arbitrarily such a comparison with the motive of ending the thread. There is a widely recognized codicil that any such ulterior-motive invocation of Godwin's Law will be unsuccessful (this is sometimes referred to as "Quirk's Exception").[5] Godwin's Law does not apply to discussions directly addressing genocide, propaganda, or other mainstays of the Nazi regime. Instead, it applies to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with Hitler or Nazis. However, Godwin's Law can itself also be abused, as a distraction or diversion, that fallaciously miscasts an opponent's argument as hyperbole, especially if the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate. --------------------------------- I think it's reasonable to say that we're no longer associating with each other. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : I can't deal with this political crap. You're about as close to a : fascist as I have ever known, Well, you missed my point again. I doubt you can show me in the Bible, Book of Mormon, or any other holy writing where it says that the government should take my money under threat of force, and give it to people who are poor for whatever reason. I'm a political conservative because I believe in the Constitution, as written by the founders. Of course, there will be opposition from fascists, socialists, globalists, etc. The liberal Democrats of today are from what I can tell, the same as socialists. Tax the rich, to try to even out the field by giving money to the poor. This, I believe, is un-American. I'm a bit amazed, that after your parents suffered under a government gone bad, that you believe in government. Are you likely to figure out that governments go bad? That the same abuse of power that happened in Europe can, and does happen in the US? Why do you want more government control? More government programs lead to abuse of power. Can't you see that? If you and Louie are "damn glad" to be citizens, why do you campaign for more government control, and less freedom? Don't you like the land of the free, and home of the brave? Would you rather have the land of the government controlled, and the home of passive subjects of government? SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : I can only say where there is written a right to Life, Liberty and : Pursuit of Happiness, we are obliged to help give life to those who [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] : Blessed be, : Baha I believe in rendering unto Caesar and remember that we will always have the poor. FDR did a lot to try to alleviate that, and because of the WPA (begun by that liberal Democrat Roosevelt) we had a lot of people working in his era. We could use more of it. I will stop believing in the right to health care regardless of ability to pay when I have the right to homestead on public land. I believe our government is not perfect but it's the best out there; that through our vote and right to protest or seek redress (that one is Constitutional) we have the means to change things for the better; and resent the implication that I am un-American. If we don't remember what my parents went through we will repeat Hitler's catastrophe. And if we don't learn from FDR and the Work Progress Act (administration?) we will have more poor among us, untrained, unable to support themselves for lack of ability. I want our money put to training, to work opportunities made (like stop the outsourcing) not handouts. We have had this discussion before; this is not the place to continue it. >Well, you missed my point again. I doubt you can show me in the >Bible, Book of Mormon, or any other holy writing where it says [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >: Blessed be, >: Baha Adolf Hitler: one man, reduced government; Holocaust. Until you have experienced it, or have lived with its long-term effects, you will never understand why I believe that government in conjunction with responsible voters, can benefit its citizens. You must understand that as long as we consider ourselves a "melting pot" we have the right to be individuals with differing opinions. We cannot all be ultra-conservative; we cannot have the same religious faith. Hitler made a state church that was a puppet for his government; an anti-communist, he was perhaps the ultimate fascist. If we are not wise in our voting choices we run the risk of things far worse than nationalised health care or taxation. Give me Hillary over Adolf any day of the week. Chris, you have been asked numerous times not to make off-topic, socio- political postings. This is not what any of us come here for. This is my last post. Ever. I can't deal with it anymore. I apologize that, in my indignation, I said things which had teeth. But I will not apologize for believing as I do. It is not un-American to have a differing viewpoint and I should not have to defend myself like a person called up by Joe McCarthy. My husband is in the conservative party. He can't deal with you anymore either, and he is more in line with you than I! To the good people here, I'm sorry I had to be the cause of this. I admit my responsibility. To whom I owe cards, they will be sent. But I can't deal with any more of this. This is no longer a refuge for me. Thanks a lot, Chris. Keep it on your survivalist and conservative boards from now on. That's where it should have gone in the first place. I had hoped to agree to disagree. You've ruined this place for me. It used to be a happy diversion but now I can't come on anymore. There is no longer any laughter, no joy in it anymore. You have called my house in the past or left emails discussing "complaining about the world together." Look at the results. >I believe in rendering unto Caesar and remember that we will always have the >poor. FDR did a lot to try to alleviate that, and because of the WPA (begun >by that liberal Democrat Roosevelt) we had a lot of people working in his era. >We could use more of it. > To the good people here, I'm sorry I had to be the cause of this. I > admit my responsibility. To whom I owe cards, they will be sent. But > I can't deal with any more of this. This is no longer a refuge for > me. Thanks a lot, Chris. Baha, I hope that, once you're not as upset as you are now, you will reconsider leaving this newsgroup. I would hate to lose you! If Chris has made this place feel like it's no longer a refuge, why not just killfile his posts? You're not required to read them - much less to respond to them. Most of us here have killfiled him already, and the only way I get to see his posts is when you follow up to them. If you ignore him too, then pretty much nobody will see it. Joyce > > To the good people here, I'm sorry I had to be the cause of this. I > > admit my responsibility. To whom I owe cards, they will be sent. But [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Joyce What she said! Really, sweetie, just KF the fool. Don't deprive yourself of what company and diversion we offer you here-- and certainly don't deprive us of the fun of knowing you-- over just this. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh Make Levees, Not War > What she said! Really, sweetie, just KF the fool. Don't deprive > yourself of what company and diversion we offer you here-- and > certainly don't deprive us of the fun of knowing you-- over just this. Just want to second this - I always enjoy your stories and would hate to think you are driven away by this. Killfile him and stay with all of us! (((((Baha))))) Deb. Signaturehttp://www.scientific-art.com "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield Delurking; don't know how to killfile. Baha bahadur at localnet dot com > > To the good people here, I'm sorry I had to be the cause of this. I > > admit my responsibility. To whom I owe cards, they will be sent. But [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Joyce > Delurking; don't know how to killfile. > > Baha > bahadur at localnet dot com You don't have to know how to killfile through your newsreader. You only have to realize you can divest yourself of negative bigoted psychopaths. You see a post from that idiot; you don't read it. When you do read it, react (as he's baiting you to do) you force the rest of us to sift through his drek. Why is that? Because we *want* to read *your* posts. Be well. Non illegitimus carborundum. SignatureJoey DoWop Dee Remember: It is To Laugh > Delurking; don't know how to killfile. > > Baha I love reading your posts. I'd hate to see you leave over a pathetic jerk. But he has been targeting you for several years now. If we can figure out how to keep you here, I hope you will stay. If you have to take a break for your own sanity I understand that too. I really don't get it. He doesn't even seem to have a concept of just how sick and twisted he is. Most trolls know what they are and delight in it. And are easier to ignore or get rid of. Jo > Delurking; don't know how to killfile. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>way I get to see his posts is when you follow up to them. If you ignore >>him too, then pretty much nobody will see it. Well, I didn't help either. I have killfiled him twice, but now and again I like to have an amnesty, especially at New Year. New year, new start and all that. He's gone back in again. I don't killfile lightly. I have no problem with whoever might disagree with my views and having a robust discussion about it. We might end up agreeing to disagree. What I don't like is that Chris uses the name of his religion in his user name and posts views that I know are not typical of this church. I am sure this is what Baha has a problem with, too. This newsgroup is not the place to discuss the "deserving or undeserving poor." It is totally against what I believe in, anyway. Some people have no chance to escape the poverty trap. I took exception to my mental health being called into question, another person who I disagreed with recently also said this. Am I mad then, to disagree with an extreme right winger, or someone who refuses to get his male cat neutered and lets it out? Tweed I never meant to contribute to this increasingly volatile topic in the manner I did; I agree this is not the place to discuss deserving or undeserving, nor politics in general. I really try to stay away from this sort of thing. The weekend before last I had to represent prisoners of war in general, and the Hitler victims in particular, at a Memorial Day service in a friend's church, and I'm afraid this is one of those times of year I end up making for myself a virtual soapbox from which to make speeches and enemies. I hope I am still welcome. Blessed be, BaHA >> Delurking; don't know how to killfile. >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Tweed >I never meant to contribute to this increasingly volatile topic in the >manner [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Blessed be, > BaHA You are always welcome. Even bring along the soap box once in a while. It isn't your responsibility to have to deal with a stalker alone. Although I'm beginning to think its time for some of us to deal with him through his ISP and possibly through his bishop. Jo The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals speaking for my cause. How to work with an ISP though, I've no clue. Do you rally think this is a species of stalking? Blessed be, Baha creeped out >>I never meant to contribute to this increasingly volatile topic in the >>manner [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Jo > The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals > speaking [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Baha > creeped out Very much so. It is almost invariably your posts he goes after. He often refers to you when he posts, etc. While I would doubt that he is dangerous, I'm certain that he is trying to specifically make you uncomfortable here. To me at least he appears to prey on what he perceives to be your vulnerability. Jo >> The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals >> speaking [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >While I would doubt that he is dangerous, I'm certain that he is trying to >specifically make you uncomfortable here. And the problem is, I don't know why. As hard as this is to believe, Louie thinks he has a deep-seated, um, interest in me, and that if I could be persuaded to return to the LDS I would leave Louie and marry Chris so his duty to the church could be done. This, I think, is carrying things far; my husband has a bit of an insecure side and before I came along never thought he'd marry in this lifetime. Fortunately he's not of a jealous nature! But I digress. I know that some of the posts seem targeted; one on this thread made reference to a leaking roof (in this case over a back patio and it has since been fixed) and the large number of books I own, including a large collection of world scriptures. It does give jme the creeps. Blessed be, Baha >To me at least he appears to prey on what he perceives to be your >vulnerability. > >Jo >>> The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals >>> speaking [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Blessed be, > Baha I think Louie is very perceptive. As for the why, who every really knows why someone else does anything. But I don't think you are far off in that Chris somehow see's himself as your "savior". Which is typical stalking think. That he uses his church to validate his delusions isn't all that unusual. Gives me the creeps too. In any case, it isn't your fault in any way. You strike me as a kind, generous, sensitive person. That isn't wrong or a bad thing to be. Jo Jo strikes me as someone who has read some popular psychology books, but hasn't learned how to communicate with people in a real way. She lives in a world of her own creation, afraid to actually ask people what's going on. (How'd I do?) SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : >>> The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals : >>> speaking [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] : : Jo Why are you still coming in here? >Jo strikes me as someone who has read some popular psychology >books, but hasn't learned how to communicate with people in a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >: >: Jo Couple of reasons. First, I enjoy friendships with a couple of cats. And, it's always nice to hear cat stories. Second, to defend myself. I've never been impressed with people who discuss me behind my back, and try to manipulate others to hurt me. I'm trying to stay aware of where the likely trouble is coming from. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : Why are you still coming in here? > Why are you still coming in here? Ignore him! And please stop quoting the creep. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Mea maxima culpa. I'm leaning to cut like a good keyboarduist! >Ignore him! And please stop quoting the creep. This from a person who listens to Laura Schlesinger? >Jo strikes me as someone who has read some popular psychology >books, but hasn't learned how to communicate with people in a >real way. That's correct. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : This from a person who listens to Laura Schlesinger? : [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : -- > And the problem is, I don't know why. As hard as this is to believe, Louie > thinks he has a deep-seated, um, interest in me, and that if I could be > persuaded to return to the LDS I would leave Louie and marry Chris so his > duty to the church could be done. That would be very sad and pathetic, if true. Remember how kids say, "If a boy puts gum in your hair, that means he likes you"? Usually applies to 9 year olds, though. Before I took the time to learn how to killfile people in my newsreader, I used sorting as a way to make it easier to delete the posts of certain individuals. First, I'd sort the posts according to the poster. That way, I'd have all the posts from the same person together. And then I could just delete, delete, delete, all the posts from whomever I didn't want to read, without even opening them. Once finished with that, I'd sort them again, in subject-line order, which is how I prefer to read Usenet. The sort-delete-sort method is a bit of a pain, and it's a lot easier to killfile. But if you don't know how to do that, it is an option. Your newsreader must allow you to sort the posts into different orders (by subject, date, poster, etc). Joyce Since you appear to be making guesses without bothering to ask the person in question, you'll probably never know for sure. I'm sure if you wonder for a while longer, you could probably find a few more people to feed your preconceptions. That could really make a fire storm. Then you could really be intensely involved. Just keep guessing, why don't you? Asking sounds a lot too simple and direct. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : >> The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals : >> speaking [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] : > : >Jo >>The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals >>speaking [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > To me at least he appears to prey on what he perceives to be your > vulnerability. Might it have something to do with the fact she from time to time mentions her Sikh religion? He seems to be a racist and a bigot - maybe he disapproves of non-Christians, too. I never could understand that sort of attitude - religion is such an intensely personal thing, and most religions have similar ethical teachings (although their members don't always follow them). We all choose whatever path to God we find most acceptable - no one religion is "better" than another, and I'm sure the Supreme Deity doesn't care which "brand" we choose, only that we try to follow its precepts. >>>The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals >>>speaking [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Supreme Deity doesn't care which "brand" we choose, only that we try to > follow its precepts. I haven't been following this thread, but I heartily agree with you. Joy It is true I do mention my faith and I apologize if I may have come across as heavy-handed with it. I don't believe in proselytising or "witnessing." It's against a personal belief I have that faith is unique to the believer and highly personal. For instance, I share with Wiccans the belief in Goddess whereas another Sikh might have a different outlook. My position is very Unitarian. It's not for me to judge. To go about selling your image of the divine or what is perceived to be "the one truth" or the only way to worship, seems like you're peddling faith like a used-car guy or insurance agent. It rather cheapens something bigger than myself; and I hate being sold to. Show me, don't feed me words and expect me to believe blindly. Blessed be, Baha >>>The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals >>>speaking [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >another, and I'm sure the Supreme Deity doesn't care which >"brand" we choose, only that we try to follow its precepts. > It is true I do mention my faith and I apologize if I may have come > across as heavy-handed with it. You have never come across as heavy-handed about your religious faith. There's nothing wrong with sometimes mentioning something that is an important part of your life. That's not at all the same thing as proselytizing. Joyce > > It is true I do mention my faith and I apologize if I may have come > > across as heavy-handed with it. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > important part of your life. That's not at all the same thing as > proselytizing. Sometimes it would be nice to learn MORE about different religious beliefs. Since a certain number of "religion" credits were a graduation requirement at my Prsebyterian-affiliated college (and I've always been next-door to an agnostic) I sought out the more interesting, less "Christian-fundamentalist" offerings. However, the "Comparative Religions" course only offered discussion of the "major" ones - Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Christianity, Budhism - none of the less well-known faiths. My next-door neighbors in North Hollywood were Sikh, but I only knew them to say "hello" when we encountered each other in the hallway. (I'm not even sure whether they are a branch of Hinduism or of Islam, or are something totally unrelated to either.) I know we have some Wiccans here, too - another faith I know nothing about (aside from the false accusation that they practice "witchcraft" - in its most negative connotations). You know, Jo. I really don't think you are correct. However, you could ask him if you want. Your very psychological guess are just that -- guesses. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : > The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals : > speaking [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : : Jo Have you tried communicating directly with the individual in question, or are you just going behind peoples back with a big knife? You never know, some people are actually fairly easy to talk with. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : The matter has been referred to his Stake President by individuals speaking : for my cause. How to work with an ISP though, I've no clue. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] : > : >Jo If this refers to what I am thinking, there is a relative-by-marriage who came to the catKB site (at my suggestion) looking for answers about her own cat's behavior. She was investigating the church and cancelled the missionary lessons after reading certain posts, and I knew nothing of going to any bishoop or Stake leader until after the fact.. >Have you tried communicating directly with the individual in >question, or are you just going behind peoples back with a big [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >: > >: >Jo > If this refers to what I am thinking, there is a relative-by-marriage who > came to the catKB site (at my suggestion) looking for answers about her own > cat's behavior. She was investigating the church and cancelled the missionary > lessons after reading certain posts, and I knew nothing of going to any > bishoop or Stake leader until after the fact.. Baha, I don't blame you for being angry at S.M., and if you really feel you must respond to his attacks, that's your prerogative, of course. But I'd really appreciate it if you didn't quote his garbage in your post - and I'll bet most of us here would appreciate that, too. We all killfile him for a reason. Thank you, Joyce I do apologize. I think there is something in the CatKB thing that if it's so- and-so long, it (the post I respond to) ends up getting clipped on this site but most probably appears if you go through a newsreader or something. I don't want the dreck rehashed any more than you or anyone; sorry to have to put a person through it more. Blessed be, Baha >Baha, I don't blame you for being angry at S.M., and if you really feel >you must respond to his attacks, that's your prerogative, of course. But [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Thank you, >Joyce > I do apologize. I think there is something in the CatKB thing that if it's so- > and-so long, it (the post I respond to) ends up getting clipped on this site > but most probably appears if you go through a newsreader or something. I > don't want the dreck rehashed any more than you or anyone; sorry to have to > put a person through it more. Don't you have the capability to cut and paste in your post? (With the emphasis on "cut"? :)) When I follow-up to a post, it brings the entire initial post into my editor. I can then snip out whatever I want, just using editing keys. If yours is more GUI oriented, you'd probably be using the mouse to highlight the text to eliminate, and then hit "delete". Joyce I can't remember hearing about any person who cancelled missionary appointments. If there really is such a person, then that person had the wrong reasons for investigating the church. SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : If this refers to what I am thinking, there is a relative-by-marriage who : came to the catKB site (at my suggestion) looking for answers about her own [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : >: for my cause. How to work with an ISP though, I've no clue. : >[quoted text clipped - 19 lines] This is a local matter; however, your posts were noted. Do not presume to judge my inlaws' interest in the church and what may be their motivation, now fizzled out. I don't think you realize what a weight your username carries; first impressions do mea something. To others who have commented, did I cut and paste well? Blessed be, Baha >I can't remember hearing about any person who cancelled >missionary appointments. If there really is such a person, then >that person had the wrong reasons for investigating the church. > This is a local matter; however, your posts were noted. Do not presume to > judge my inlaws' interest in the church and what may be their motivation, now [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> missionary appointments. If there really is such a person, then >> that person had the wrong reasons for investigating the church. Perfect. SignatureRemember: It it To Laugh <http://tinyurl.com/2a5u8b> Ah, now there's a way to handle things. Never, ever, speak to the person who is offending you. Go to an authority figure, and complain. Request the authority figure to censure the person who is offending you. Oh, Jo, who's your authority figure, so I may contact him (or her)? SignatureChristopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . : You are always welcome. Even bring along the soap box once in a while. : [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : Jo > I never meant to contribute to this increasingly volatile topic in the manner > I did; I agree this is not the place to discuss deserving or undeserving, nor [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > a virtual soapbox from which to make speeches and enemies. I hope I am still > welcome. Of course you are welcome, Liz. I think we all enjoy your posts. Give the kitties a few scritches from me, and a big hug for yourself. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. >Am I mad then, to disagree with an extreme right winger, or someone who >refuses to get his male cat neutered and lets it out? If you are then so am I Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs >> If Chris has made this place feel like it's no longer a refuge, >> why not just killfile his posts? > Delurking; don't know how to killfile. I don't think you can killfile anything while accessing the group via CatKB - it's one of those forums that takes a Usenet group and presents it as if it was a service of their own, and while it looks quite neat and simple it doesn't give you the options that a real Usenet reader would have. What you need is (a) a news service independent of CatKB and (b) some software to use it. For the first, a lot of people are very happy with news.individual.net (10 euros a year for all groups); other people use giganews.net, which I don't know much about. For the software, try MT-NewsWatcher (what I use) on the Mac or Forte Agent (or Free Agent) on the PC. You will end up being able to do a lot more with Usenet than you can now. I haven't yet killfiled the idiot who's hassling you (it's easy enough just not to read his soapboxing) but I might well do it soon. ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 |
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