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Alas, Rita has to stay alone...
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Jane - 06 May 2007 13:07 GMT I went to the shelter yesterday to see the kittens. Of course, I wanted to take ALL of the cats home. They all looked desperately in need of loving slaves. *sniff*
Problem is, I filled out reams of paperwork and went through an interview process, only to find out that they needed proof that my landlords would allow two cats in the apartment. So last night I dug out the lease. "Only one pet per household" The kiss of death.
I'll still call on Monday, but my hopes are not very high. Oh yeah, I could just get a kitten from one of the millions that will probably be advertised in the paper, freecycle, craigslist and just keep an illegal cat, but that's really not me. I tend to be obnoxiously honest.
This is just another reason to start looking into buying my own home.
Jane - owned and operated by the lonely Princess Rita
MaryL - 06 May 2007 13:09 GMT >I went to the shelter yesterday to see the kittens. Of course, I > wanted to take ALL of the cats home. They all looked desperately in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Jane > - owned and operated by the lonely Princess Rita Check with your landlords. Sometimes you can get a modified lease if (1) you can show that your current cat has not done any damage, and/or (2) you agree to pay a pet deposit for the second pet.
MaryL
Jane - 06 May 2007 23:29 GMT On May 6, 8:09 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
> >I went to the shelter yesterday to see the kittens. Of course, I > > wanted to take ALL of the cats home. They all looked desperately in [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > MaryL That's exactly why I will be calling them tomorrow anyway. You never know. After all, the original pet lease said that the cat must be declawed, but I asked them to remove that line immediately. I have been a model tenant for 3 years.
IF they say yes, then I have an appointment to bring Rita to the shelter on Tuesday at 4, when they close. They want to see how she reacts with the kitten before he comes home with us. (I told them to have the men around - she'll love that. She loves guys.)
Jane - owned and operated by Princess Rita
Karen - 07 May 2007 05:12 GMT >> I went to the shelter yesterday to see the kittens. Of course, I >> wanted to take ALL of the cats home. They all looked desperately in [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > MaryL Mine did. I had three cats though the policy was 2, but they just wrote it into the lease.
Karen AKA Kajikit - 06 May 2007 21:05 GMT >I went to the shelter yesterday to see the kittens. Of course, I >wanted to take ALL of the cats home. They all looked desperately in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Jane >- owned and operated by the lonely Princess Rita So see if the landlord will give you permission to have a second cat. Ours doesn't care HOW many felines we have as long as they don't do any damage to the apartment (I'm sure he knows that if they DID go beserk and start destroying stuff that as responsible pet-owners we'd pay to fix it...)
Ginger-lyn - 06 May 2007 23:33 GMT > I went to the shelter yesterday to see the kittens. Of course, I > wanted to take ALL of the cats home. They all looked desperately in [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Jane > - owned and operated by the lonely Princess Rita I don't know what your landlord is like, but can you ask him about adding another cat? Some landlords will make exceptions, in spite of what the lease says.
Ginger-lyn
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 06 May 2007 23:48 GMT > I don't know what your landlord is like, but can you ask him about > adding another cat? Some landlords will make exceptions, in spite of > what the lease says. I agree with Ginger-lyn on this. But I'd also ask for a change in writing, if he does agree to let you (Jane) have another cat. Otherwise, if you should ever get into a conflict with your landlord, he'd have the perfect excuse to evict you, and it would be your word against his that he'd agreed to let you have a second cat.
I hate to be paranoid like this, but renting is business, and you have to protect yourself (and your kitties!).
Good luck! Joyce
Jane - 07 May 2007 13:37 GMT On May 6, 6:48 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:
> > I don't know what your landlord is like, but can you ask him about > > adding another cat? Some landlords will make exceptions, in spite of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Good luck! > Joyce Well, good news. I talked with the Community Relations person, and she said that I was indeed allowed to have two cats. However, I have to do the whole pet lease/money thing for the 2nd cat, too. So I need to get vet papers, a pet lease, a picture, and pay an extra $150 deposit and $25 a month for the 2nd cat. Phew. They don't even have a picture of Rita yet, because I never got around to changing over from Fin to Rita when the cats changed. I guess I'll take care of them all at the same time.
Now to call the shelter at 10am and let them know.
Rita's getting a kitten! I hope, anyway. (Depends a lot on how she reacts when she sees him at the shelter.)
Jane - owned and operated by Princess Rita
MaryL - 07 May 2007 13:57 GMT > On May 6, 6:48 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Jane > - owned and operated by Princess Rita Jane,
I have a major concern with what the shelter is requesting (not your decision, I know). That is, I think it is a very poor idea to ask someone to bring a cat out of her home environment and ask her to act "normal" at the shelter. It is even a very poor idea to introduce the two cats in your own home until they have each had time to be acclimated to the other. The new cat should be in a separate room for awhile, then slowly and carefully introduce them. So, don't be surprised or disappointed if Rita or the new kittend don't "take" to each other at the shelter -- adopt whatever the outcome, and work on the slow introduction. Thanks for doing all this!!
MaryL
MaryL - 07 May 2007 14:01 GMT >> On May 6, 6:48 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > MaryL One final point...If shelter staff do not absolutely require you to bring Rita to the shelter, then decline the invitation and simply bring the new kitten home. In addition to what I wrote earlier, this policy asks you to bring Rita to an environment where there could be contagious diseases (UTI is very common -- indeed, rampant -- in even the best-run shelters). That is another reason why the new kitten should be quarantined in a separate room of your home for awhile (even a bathroom, if you are short on space) -- with food, water, litter box, lots of toys, plenty of attention from you, etc.
MaryL
Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'< http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
Jane - 07 May 2007 14:17 GMT On May 7, 9:01 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:
> >> On May 6, 6:48 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Photos of Duffy and Holly: >'o'<http://tinyurl.com/8y54(Introducing Duffy to Holly)http://tinyurl.com/8y56(Duffy and Holly "settle in") They want me to bring Rita to the shelter to see how she will react to the kitten. It's a better idea then to bring home a kitten, then to have to bring it back once it becomes apparent that she hates it and won't tolerate another cat in the house. Heck, I may have to do that anyway. We are well aware that Rita will be out of her element, scared, and probably miserable. HOWEVER, she's also a rather sociable cat, and travels pretty well. I'll bring her stuffed kitten and bear, and some treats, and a couple of toys to play with, and of course I'll be there the whole time. The lobby where we're going to do this is far away from the d*g area, so I doubt she'll have a problem with the dogs barking.
As for the slowly introducing stuff at home, it just ain't gonna happen. It may be a big apartment, but it's not THAT big. They're just going to have to tough it out the hard way. I have to work all day and don't have the time to do the whole 'slow intro' thing.
We'll manage.
Jane
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 May 2007 20:06 GMT > As for the slowly introducing stuff at home, it just ain't gonna > happen. It may be a big apartment, but it's not THAT big. > They're just going to have to tough it out the hard way. I have to > work all day and don't have the time to do the whole > 'slow intro' thing. I really hope you'll reconsider this. I introduced two of my cats very slowly, and I also work full time and wasn't around during the day. I just kept the new kitten (Roxy) in my bedroom with the door closed at all times. If you have a studio with no separate bedroom, then the bathroom (as MaryL suggested) would also be OK. Little kittens don't require a lot of space, and in fact when they're new to an environment, it's actually less stressful for them to be enclosed in a small space.
It can sometimes take a while for the newcomer to be accepted, so there is a time investment. However, it's really not labor-intensive, from your point of view. There isn't a lot you have to *do*, other than keeping them separate most of the time (ideally with a space under the door where they can sniff each other). Once or twice a day, you can put the kitten into a carrier, and bring her out into the main part of the house, where Rita can check her out through the holes in the carrier. Even with that, I wouldn't do this for more than half an hour per "visit". So it wouldn't really take a lot of effort, just a bit of planning.
Since you've had trouble with cat introductions in the past, it might not be an accurate assumption that you'll "manage". And even if they don't end up hating each other, I thought the point of getting a second cat was so Rita would have a playmate/companion? So it would be best if they could be actual friends, not just roommates who barely tolerate each other.
When I brought Roxy home 9 years ago, I was very meticulous and careful about her introduction to Smudge. But when I brought Licky home, I wasn't planning to keep him - he was a foster kitty - so I put no effort into the introduction at all. Final result: Smudge and Roxy became great friends and played together, groomed each other, and slept all curled up together for years. Smudge and Licky can't stand each other, and 4 years later, they still fight every day, so it's never really settled down. Licky gets along better with Roxy, and they play together, but they're not super close. Now that might just be Licky's personality, being paranoid and wary all the time. But it might have worked out better if I'd done a better job of introducing him into the household.
Joyce
Steve Touchstone - 07 May 2007 14:55 GMT > I have a major concern with what the shelter is requesting (not your > decision, I know). That is, I think it is a very poor idea to ask someone [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > MaryL I was thinking the same thing. I've brought two new cats into the apartment, and neither were especially welcomed by Little Bit and Sammy. They were both well acquainted with Rocky (RB), since he was a regular fixture whenever I took them out for walks - but it was still a while before Sammy welcomed him inside, and the best that can be said is that Little Bit tolerated him. Spotty's introduction was much worse - they had to be kept in separate rooms at first to prevent fights. It was days before I felt I could leave them unsupervised.
OTOH, my experience involved bringing a cat into someone else's territory. Perhaps by making the introduction in a neutral territory would eliminate Rita's feeling of needing to protect her home and give a truer picture of how they would get along. Especially since you say she's not bothered by traveling.
Anyway, purrs coming that the trip and intro go well, and that Rita welcomes a new furry sibling and you soonhave a new master/mistress
Steve Touchstone supervised by LB, Sam and Spot
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 May 2007 19:49 GMT > Well, good news. I talked with the Community Relations person, and > she said that I was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > when the cats > changed. I guess I'll take care of them all at the same time.
> Now to call the shelter at 10am and let them know.
> Rita's getting a kitten! I hope, anyway. (Depends a lot on how she > reacts when > she sees him at the shelter.) Hooray! That's wonderful. Good luck with the introduction - I hope it works out!
Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 07 May 2007 18:46 GMT > > I don't know what your landlord is like, but can you ask him about > > adding another cat? Some landlords will make exceptions, in spite of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I hate to be paranoid like this, but renting is business, and you have > to protect yourself (and your kitties!). As I'm learning to my dismay (although it doesn't involve pets - I have a nice official sticker in my front window confirming that I'm paying rent for them). I rented an Arizona apartment which provided concierge service (for accepting parcels, referring new tenants to area stores, recommending people who perform maid service, etc.). They had a nice (clearly identified) "Recreation Building" for tenant use, with billiard tables, card tables, kitchen and meeting areas, and the complex (of 1220 units) sponsored semi-monthly dinners for residents to socialize. There were nine heated swimming pools, a well-equipped fitness room and a small movie theater which showed weekly matinee's for the kids and at least one screening a month for grown-ups. (An ideal situation for an able-bodied retiree who knows no one in the area.) A month after I moved in, the complex changed hands.
The concierge service was promptly discontinued. Now if you get a parcel by mail, it goes back to the post-office (about ten miles away) unless it will fit in the standard mail-boxes in your area of the complex. (Because the complex provides central mail-boxes, the postman is not allowed to bring the parcel to your door - understandable, since the entire complex must occupy at least a square mile, probably more.) The December dinner was cancelled with no advance notice to those who'd made reservations. (We arrived in our holiday finery to find the building locked, unlit, and a hand-written note on the door announcing the cancellation - no reason given.) The recreation building was promptly turned over to the maintenance department for storage. (Although the "Recreation Building" sign is still prominently visible to prospective tenants being shown around the property.) Because they are visible to prospective tenants, the swimming pools exist and appear well-maintained, but the "heating" is purely theoretical. The fitness room is still there, but most of the equipment is not functional (and they're "not sure" when it will be replaced). The movie theater is still scheduling movies, but they can't show them until they replace the burned out bulb in the projector. (Apparently a major project, since it's been "burned out" for three months, now!)Unfortunately, none of these amenities were written into our leases, so we have no recourse. (Of course, there was no reduction in rent when the amenities disappeared, even though they were the reason many of us chose to pay a much higher rent than the apartments themselves warranted.)
What has me most concerned, though, was that they sent around a notice that they would be inspecting our smoke alarms, checking for leaks, and replacing air-conditioning filters. The notice plainly stated that this was a REQUIRED semi-annual inspection, and that we could not refuse to allow the inspectors access. (Actually, I think the smoke-alarm inspection is required by law for all rental property - it certainly was in California.) I'm retired, so I was present for the alleged inspection (which of course took place during the normal business day, when most residents were at work). They went directly to the air-conditioning unit, changed the filter, and left - must have been here all of five minutes! When I called the office of the building to ask when the smoke alarm inspection would be performed, I was told they showed the inspection was complete! (Why believe ME, when I told them no-one went anywhere NEAR the smoke alarm?) I was upset enough to write a letter to the management company's main office (with a copy and covering note to the Phoenix Fire Department) but so far no one has bothered to reply to that, either!
I've begun looking into "senior housing" (where I can rent an apartment plus maid-service, all utilities paid, three meals a day, a full schedule of recreational activities, an emergency call system and a twenty-four hour staff trained to respond to emergencies). It costs a lot more than I'm paying here - but not really, after figuring in the cost of utilities, groceries, etc. (Oh yes, if I decide I no longer want to drive, they provide transportation for medical appointments, shopping, etc. - all part of the basic package.) When my lease expires, hopefully I'm outa here!
Matthew - 07 May 2007 18:56 GMT >> > I don't know what your landlord is like, but can you ask him about > >> adding another cat? Some landlords will make exceptions, in spite of > [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > provide transportation for medical appointments, shopping, etc. - all part > of the basic package.) When my lease expires, hopefully I'm outa here! Good luck Evelyn. If you were in Florida I could give you about 2 to 3 dozen recommendations since Florida is the retiree state. Services like that are a dime a dozen here
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 May 2007 19:40 GMT > I rented an > Arizona apartment which provided concierge service (for [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > in the area.) A month after I moved in, the complex changed > hands. [snipped rest of story for brevity]
Wow, that is really terrible, Evelyn! You're right that since entitlement to those amenities wasn't written into your leases, you can't do anything about it. These creeps are raking it in at your expense. I wonder why the original management decided to sell?
Sheesh, first it was the cockroaches, now this. How long is it until you can move out of there?
Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 08 May 2007 00:56 GMT > Wow, that is really terrible, Evelyn! You're right that since entitlement > to those amenities wasn't written into your leases, you can't do anything > about it. These creeps are raking it in at your expense. I wonder why > the original management decided to sell? Apparently they are the THIRD owners in the course of a year - the company that owned it when I moved in were already the second in 2006, and this one took over in December, 2006. (And since, if I didn't move in here as planned, I would have had to pay to board the cats for however much longer it took to find another place, I really didn't have many options, even if I'd known.)
> Sheesh, first it was the cockroaches, now this. How long is it until you > can move out of there? My lease isn't up until November 9th, but the gal at the senior facility I'm looking into says sometimes a letter from them thirty days in advance of departure can get new residents out of their existing leases - although I'd be in their "Independent Living" area, they also offer "Assisted Living", so a request on their letterhead often carries a little weight. However, my brother will be going back to Wisconsin the end of this month, and will not return until September, and I'd like them to be here when I move, so I'd probably wait until then, anyway. (I have a lot of "consolidating" to do, too - when I moved from California, I knew I was moving into a larger place, so didn't get rid of nearly as much stuff as I should have, and now it's come back to haunt me!)
jmcquown - 08 May 2007 20:08 GMT > > I rented an > > Arizona apartment which provided concierge service (for [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Joyce I happen to be very happy with my apartment in the mid-South. Not only do they send around a maintenance man to replace the smoke alarm batteries and check on the kitchen fire extinguisher, they send a chimney sweep around once a year. She (Evelyn) really did have a bad time what with the roaches and now this? Not exactly a good rental experience.
My landlord Sherrie has been most gracious given my monetary situation. She removed the "pet fee" from my rent. And yes, they host a BBQ thing up by the pool. Doesn't sound like where I live, though. Hers sounds like Little Shop of Horrors.
Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 09 May 2007 17:49 GMT > I happen to be very happy with my apartment in the mid-South. Not only do > they send around a maintenance man to replace the smoke alarm batteries and > check on the kitchen fire extinguisher, they send a chimney sweep around > once a year. She (Evelyn) really did have a bad time what with the roaches > and now this? Not exactly a good rental experience. Especially when I have lived happily in rental property for most of my adult life, and never before had problems with landlords (or caused them any). In fact, I became fairly good friends with most of them.
Did I mention that, if you are late with your rent by more than two days, they not only tack on a large "late fee" here, but will then only accept "late" payments by cashier's check or credit card? (Even though the late payer has never, ever bounced a personal check?) The new owners live somewhere else, and have hired a very large area management company (whose previous experience must have been mostly in slum areas) to manage the complex of 1220 units.
When I was telling my problems to the liason person at the senior facility I'm considering, she asked the name of the management company. She'd heard of them, okay - apparently they have a very bad reputation in the industry!
Annie Wxill - 10 May 2007 00:30 GMT ...> ... She'd heard of them, okay - apparently
> they have a very bad reputation in the industry! Evelyn, It's too bad you are having such problems. I hope you can find a place that will feel like home to you and that it has stable management.
Annie
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 10 May 2007 19:35 GMT > ...> ... She'd heard of them, okay - apparently > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It's too bad you are having such problems. I hope you can find a place that > will feel like home to you and that it has stable management. I think the senior facility I've found should be fine - they are a non-profit organization (once affiliated with the Lutheran Church, now non-denominational). They offer several levels of care - as a tenant of their "Independent Living" facility, I'll have my own one-bedroom apartment (complete with small kitchen), but my rent will include three meals a day, utilities (except telephone), bi-weekly maid service and laundry service for my flatwork (there are coin-operated machines for my personal laundry). I will have covered parking (for as long as I continue to keep my own car and drive), but they provide transportation for shopping and medical appointments if I choose to use it. There are emergency call buttons in all the apartments, and a 24-hour staff to respond to them. (And of course, they are "pet friendly" - although there's a one-time, non-refundable deposit of $500 - so long as the resident is able to care for any pets.)
In addition to the "Independent Living" apartments, they offer "Assisted Living" (meaning personal care if the resident can no longer manage for him/herself), "Alzheimer's Care", and a "Care Center" for residents requiring temporary or permanent nursing care. (Of course, cost for the various levels of care varies, but that's to be expected, so you don't pay for much you don't need to use.)
We had lunch with the residents, the day we visited - the food was good, and they provide a varied menu (with several choices). The building and grounds are lovely, with elevators and ramps wherever they might be needed. There is a small circulating library, a fitness room, a swimming pool, common areas for "socializing", recreational facilities and planned activities - including arts and crafts workshops and other classes - and regular concerts, etc. in a nice auditorium. The residents and staff seem friendly (and the staff-members don't talk to old people as though they were feeble minded - something I encountered in the place I investigated in California). One determining factor was that several of the staff have some of their own relatives living there - you can assume, if they approve of the place for their family, non-relatives will find it acceptable, too.
I'll be getting another look at it Saturday - my brother and his wife are inveterate "yard-salers", and the facility is having its annual yard sale. (I might even be able to find a couple of pieces of furniture to replace some of the bulkier bits I need to get rid of, and store them in my brother's garage until I'm ready to move.)
polonca12000 - 10 May 2007 22:16 GMT > I think the senior facility I've found should be fine - they are a > non-profit organization (once affiliated with the Lutheran Church, now [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > replace some of the bulkier bits I need to get rid of, and store them in > my brother's garage until I'm ready to move.) That sounds great! Best wishes, Polonca and Soncek
Annie Wxill - 11 May 2007 22:15 GMT > I think the senior facility I've found should be fine ... ... Evelyn, That sounds like an excellent place. With concerts in an auditorium, even. And pet friendly, too. Covered parking, maid service, good food, nice people, exercise room and library. I'm happy for you. I may want to move there too, someday.
Annie
Lesley - 12 May 2007 15:00 GMT . I'm happy for you. I may want to move
> there too, someday. Someday? I wouldn't mind moving in there right now!
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Jack Campin - bogus address - 07 May 2007 23:35 GMT > I rented an Arizona apartment which provided concierge service > [...] A month after I moved in, the complex changed hands. > > The concierge service was promptly discontinued. [hooror story] You would *really* like some of the novels of J.G. Ballard. Try "High-Rise" and "Cocaine Nights".
> What has me most concerned, though, was that they sent > around a notice that they would be inspecting our smoke [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Department) but so far no one has bothered to reply to that, > either! In the UK, the fire brigade would take that very damn seriously.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 08 May 2007 01:00 GMT >>have been here all of five minutes! When I called the >>office of the building to ask when the smoke alarm [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > In the UK, the fire brigade would take that very damn seriously. They would in Los Angeles, too! (And I should think, considering the brush fire danger in desert country, they would here in Arizona, also - once someone gets around to reading my note.)
Chakolate - 10 May 2007 02:23 GMT Jane <ladyjane@smart.net> wrote in news:1178453252.318925.315290 @h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> "Only one pet per household" The kiss of death. Not at all. When I went apartment-hunting, I answered ads that said 'no pets', and asked how strict the rule was. Most of the time the people said they'd bend the rule for a responsible owner. It's just easier to make exception to a 'no pets' rule than it is to tell someone that pets are allowed but not *their* pets.
Chak
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Lesley - 10 May 2007 10:39 GMT >Not at all. When I went apartment-hunting, I answered ads that said 'no >pets', and asked how strict the rule was. Most of the time the people >said they'd bend the rule for a responsible owner. It's just easier to >make exception to a 'no pets' rule than it is to tell someone that pets >are allowed but not *their* pets. When my mum was buying her flat, it had a "no pets" clause and she mentioned that she was looking after my brothers cat and they explained that a "no pets" clause is so if people get big dogs and leave them locked up all day or running wild, they can do something about it. They had no problem with a small indoor only cat
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Cheryl Perkins - 10 May 2007 11:52 GMT >>Not at all. When I went apartment-hunting, I answered ads that said 'no >>pets', and asked how strict the rule was. Most of the time the people >>said they'd bend the rule for a responsible owner. It's just easier to >>make exception to a 'no pets' rule than it is to tell someone that pets >>are allowed but not *their* pets.
> When my mum was buying her flat, it had a "no pets" clause and she mentioned > that she was looking after my brothers cat and they explained that a "no > pets" clause is so if people get big dogs and leave them locked up all day or > running wild, they can do something about it. They had no problem with a > small indoor only cat I was eager to rent a house from a woman I'd rented from before, but I knew from my previous experience that, although an excellent landlady, she believed animals belonged in barns, not in houses, and had in her leases a 'no pets' clause. So whe I was enquiring about the new place, I said up front 'Since I lived in your apartment on X street, I've gotten two cats. Is that going to be a problem?' She wanted a tenant who paid regularly and was unlikely to have the kind of parties the previous tenants had had, and said 'not at all'. When I got my copy of the lease to review, she had put in 'Tenant may have two (2) cats' in place of the 'no pets' clause.
I think that it's probably easier to negotiate this sort of thing when the landlord is an individual or at a small business. The employees of the big management companies who run a lot of the bigger apartment complexes don't seem to have as much leeway in such matters.
 Signature Cheryl
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