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jenicajones79 - 03 May 2007 18:22 GMT
I have a newly adopted adult cat who I have noticed has consistant dilated
pupils.  From what I can tell she is a Burmese.  Is this normal, or should I
be concerned?  Are there any illnesses that may affect her eyes in that way
or do Burmese normally have dilated eyes?
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 May 2007 19:04 GMT
> I have a newly adopted adult cat who I have noticed has consistant dilated
> pupils.  From what I can tell she is a Burmese.  Is this normal, or should I
> be concerned?  Are there any illnesses that may affect her eyes in that way
> or do Burmese normally have dilated eyes?

Maybe she's still adjusting to her new surroundings, and is a bit nervous
about it. Dilated pupils can be a sign of kitty anxiety. I'm not saying it
can't be something else, but I have a nervous kitty myself, and when I first
got him, his eyes were almost always big and black, to the point where I
wasn't sure what color his irises were (they're copperish, btw). Now that
he's somewhat calmed down, I get to see more copper and less black.

Joyce
Takayuki - 03 May 2007 22:19 GMT
>Maybe she's still adjusting to her new surroundings, and is a bit nervous
>about it. Dilated pupils can be a sign of kitty anxiety. I'm not saying it
>can't be something else, but I have a nervous kitty myself, and when I first
>got him, his eyes were almost always big and black, to the point where I
>wasn't sure what color his irises were (they're copperish, btw). Now that
>he's somewhat calmed down, I get to see more copper and less black.

Awww.  Maybe you should have kept Jake, although then it would be
three hoolicats vs. Smudge rather than two. :)

Here's an interesting video of a cat's pupils dilating when apparently
being shown a kitty toy off camera:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgtODQ965D0
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 May 2007 23:23 GMT
> >Maybe she's still adjusting to her new surroundings, and is a bit nervous
> >about it. Dilated pupils can be a sign of kitty anxiety. I'm not saying it
> >can't be something else, but I have a nervous kitty myself, and when I first
> >got him, his eyes were almost always big and black, to the point where I
> >wasn't sure what color his irises were (they're copperish, btw). Now that
> >he's somewhat calmed down, I get to see more copper and less black.

> Awww.  Maybe you should have kept Jake, although then it would be
> three hoolicats vs. Smudge rather than two. :)

LOL. Jake had a personality rather similar to Licky's (who, btw, was known
as "Socks" when I had them both). The two of them would run off if they
were awake and they saw me coming. But then, in the middle of the night,
I'd wake up to find them both sleeping in my bed. I'd pet them, and they
would both purr their heads off.

For the uninitiated, Jake was Licky's littermate. I fostered both of them
when they were 3 months old, up to 5 months old, and then Jake got adopted.
Although they had similar personalities, they looked really different. Jake
was all fuzzy, and mostly black except for his belly, which was this pretty
silver-grey color.

Here's my photo site for the two of them:

http://www.sonic.net/~jwermont/cats/licky/babylicky.html

Smudge would not have been happy at all if I'd kept both of them!

Joyce
Takayuki - 07 May 2007 06:57 GMT
>For the uninitiated, Jake was Licky's littermate. I fostered both of them
>when they were 3 months old, up to 5 months old, and then Jake got adopted.
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>
>Smudge would not have been happy at all if I'd kept both of them!

I didn't realize that Jake had a silver belly!  It's very pretty and
unusual, sort of like a reverse silverback gorilla.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 03 May 2007 19:10 GMT
> I have a newly adopted adult cat who I have noticed has consistant dilated
> pupils.  From what I can tell she is a Burmese.  Is this normal, or should I
> be concerned?  Are there any illnesses that may affect her eyes in that way
> or do Burmese normally have dilated eyes?

What kind of lighting does her environment have?  Like
humans, cats' pupils dilate in shadow to allow more light to
enter the eye.
jenicajones79 - 03 May 2007 19:24 GMT
It does not respond to any light.  Whether in the well lit living room or the
dim bedroom.

>> I have a newly adopted adult cat who I have noticed has consistant dilated
>> pupils.  From what I can tell she is a Burmese.  Is this normal, or should I
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>humans, cats' pupils dilate in shadow to allow more light to
>enter the eye.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 May 2007 19:30 GMT
> It does not respond to any light.  Whether in the well lit living room or the
> dim bedroom.

Hmm. I wonder if she has a visual impairment, then? Maybe her pupils have
to stay dilated so she can see at all. Especially if her eyes don't respond
to light, I'd be concerned about her vision.

Joyce
jenicajones79 - 03 May 2007 19:49 GMT
I checked a few sites and the information that I found either points to
blindness or hypertension/kidney failure.  She's going in tomorrow to get
checked, so thank you for your thoughts.

> > It does not respond to any light.  Whether in the well lit living room or the
> > dim bedroom.
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>
>Joyce
Will in New Haven - 03 May 2007 21:14 GMT
> I checked a few sites and the information that I found either points to
> blindness or hypertension/kidney failure.  She's going in tomorrow to get
> checked, so thank you for your thoughts.

Good luck to her and to you. I hope you won't be too upset if she has
impaired vision. Even blind cats can be ok if they are well cared for
and you sound like you intend to care for her.

Sunrise says "but then she can't see how PRETTY I am" but we will
ignore that for now.

Will in New Haven

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> jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote:
> > > It does not respond to any light.  Whether in the well lit living room or the
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>
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jenicajones79 - 03 May 2007 21:20 GMT
Thank you.  I am hoping for blindness rather than the other possibility.  And
yes she will be very well cared for, she's only been with us for 2 1/2 months
but she's already a huge part of our family.

Thank you again for your well wishes.

>> I checked a few sites and the information that I found either points to
>> blindness or hypertension/kidney failure.  She's going in tomorrow to get
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>>
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Daniel Mahoney - 03 May 2007 22:00 GMT
> Thank you.  I am hoping for blindness rather than the other possibility.  And
> yes she will be very well cared for, she's only been with us for 2 1/2 months
> but she's already a huge part of our family.
>
> Thank you again for your well wishes.

Please let us know what you learn. We'll keep our fingers crossed, and our
kitties will be sending "good health" purrs.

Dan
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 May 2007 03:07 GMT
> It does not respond to any light.  Whether in the well lit living room or the
> dim bedroom.

Does she appear to see okay?  If the pupils don't respond at
ALL, could she be blind?
jenicajones79 - 04 May 2007 16:36 GMT
Update:  The male stray cat that we were caring for over the last 4 days went
off to his new home last night.  The instant that he left my cat's whole
personality changed.  It's like she sensed that he wasn't there not even 5
minutes after my neighbor came to get him.  I think it was too much stress
within the last few months with her being new to our home and then the added
visitor.  My other cat, Hallie, doesn't react to stress the same way Sweet
Pea does and we've had Hallie for almost 9 years, so I panicked.  The signs
Sweat Pea had were very scary though, she became very lethargic and withdrawn,
combined with her constant dilated pupils I wasn't sure what I was dealing
with.  Funny too because she stays in my room and the stray was never allowed
in that room.  So Joyce, I think you were right.  I am going to watch her
over the next couple of days to be sure.

>> It does not respond to any light.  Whether in the well lit living room or the
>> dim bedroom.
>
>Does she appear to see okay?  If the pupils don't respond at
>ALL, could she be blind?
polonca12000 - 07 May 2007 21:49 GMT
> Update:  The male stray cat that we were caring for over the last 4 days went
> off to his new home last night.  The instant that he left my cat's whole
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> in that room.  So Joyce, I think you were right.  I am going to watch her
> over the next couple of days to be sure.

I'm so very glad and relieved to hear that.
Best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
Takayuki - 03 May 2007 22:15 GMT
>I have a newly adopted adult cat who I have noticed has consistant dilated
>pupils.  From what I can tell she is a Burmese.  Is this normal, or should I
>be concerned?  Are there any illnesses that may affect her eyes in that way
>or do Burmese normally have dilated eyes?

I doubt that it's a Burmese thing, although if Lois is lurking here,
she's a Burmese breeder, so she'd definitely know.
CatNipped - 04 May 2007 17:45 GMT
>I have a newly adopted adult cat who I have noticed has consistant dilated
> pupils.  From what I can tell she is a Burmese.  Is this normal, or should
> I
> be concerned?  Are there any illnesses that may affect her eyes in that
> way
> or do Burmese normally have dilated eyes?

Cats' eyes dilate when they spot "prey" (Sammy's eyes stay dilated most of
the time since she seems to consider almost everything in her environment a
potential meal!! ;>).

Interestingly, human eyes dilate when they see something or someone
desirable.

Hugs,

CatNipped
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 May 2007 19:57 GMT
> Cats' eyes dilate when they spot "prey" (Sammy's eyes stay dilated most of
> the time since she seems to consider almost everything in her environment a
> potential meal!! ;>).

> Interestingly, human eyes dilate when they see something or someone
> desirable.

Aren't these the same thing? :)

Joyce
CatNipped - 04 May 2007 21:36 GMT
> > Cats' eyes dilate when they spot "prey" (Sammy's eyes stay dilated most
> > of
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>
> Joyce

Well, kind of - LOL!
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3852/is_199801/ai_n8807489

Hugs,

CatNipped
Sherry - 08 May 2007 23:42 GMT
> I have a newly adopted adult cat who I have noticed has consistantdilatedpupils. From what I can tell she is a Burmese. Is this normal, or should I
> be concerned? Are there any illnesses that may affect her eyes in that way
> or do Burmese normally havedilatedeyes?

I am sorry to come in late, but I didn't see this thread earlier.

NO, it is not normal for a cat to have fixed, dilated pupils.
Something is wrong. There could be a brain injury involved, or
something like detached retinas, which are caused by different things.
Your cat seriously needs to see a vet, or even better, a veterinary
ophthamologist to see if her sight can be saved. One thing that causes
detached retinas is high blood pressure. So not only do your kitty's
eyes need to be checked, her general health needs checked too, as
there could be an underlying cause that could not only make her blind,
but very ill.
Good luck. I sincerely hope it all works out okay. Please keep us
posted.

Sherry
jenicajones79 - 08 May 2007 23:53 GMT
Wasn't sure if you saw this one, thank you for your help though:

Update:  The male stray cat that we were caring for over the last 4 days went
off to his new home last night.  The instant that he left my cat's whole
personality changed.  It's like she sensed that he wasn't there not even 5
minutes after my neighbor came to get him.  I think it was too much stress
within the last few months with her being new to our home and then the added
visitor.  My other cat, Hallie, doesn't react to stress the same way Sweet
Pea does and we've had Hallie for almost 9 years, so I panicked.  The signs
Sweat Pea had were very scary though, she became very lethargic and withdrawn,

combined with her constant dilated pupils I wasn't sure what I was dealing
with.  Funny too because she stays in my room and the stray was never allowed
in that room.  So Joyce, I think you were right.  I am going to watch her
over the next couple of days to be sure.

>> I have a newly adopted adult cat who I have noticed has consistantdilatedpupils. From what I can tell she is a Burmese. Is this normal, or should I
>> be concerned? Are there any illnesses that may affect her eyes in that way
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>
>Sherry
 
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