Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / May 2007
Some incredibly good luck
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Pat - 29 Apr 2007 19:37 GMT The cats have been patiently waiting for the last 14 months to run around outside, and it's made me very sad as well as costing a lot of money for cat litter, but today I got *very* lucky in that a neighbor decided to replace his welded wire fence with chain link, and gave me a mess of t-posts plus over 100' of wire, which means I finally have enough material to fence the yard.
Now I need to get out there and do the work, but after about half an hour in the sun, I get boiling hot and have to go inside, have a cold shower and wait until my face is not beet red any longer. When I can work in the shade I can keep going a little longer.
Once I get the fence done there's still a long way to go before the cats can use the yard - I'll have to cut a hole in a wall and put in a door (with a cat flap in it), which means finding an electric saw to borrow, as well as the funds to buy materials to build a door and the hardward for it (knob and hinges), and a few other odds and ends.
So I could use a few spare purrs, that for the kitties' sake I can keep going and get this all done ASAP, and that I can find an inexpensive saw to buy, because I have other projects that will require one. The garage needs resided and that will mean lots of heavy cutting, not to mention the cost of the new siding and fixing the front porch which is falling down.
And I've got to put some vents in the roof because there's too much mold up there! I had ordered a few trees to plant but cancelled the order because these other projects take precedence. The cats' happiness and comfort are at the top of my agenda this spring!
Magic Mood Jeep - 29 Apr 2007 21:17 GMT > The cats have been patiently waiting for the last 14 months to run around > outside, and it's made me very sad as well as costing a lot of money for [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > at > the top of my agenda this spring! I bet for the cost of the materials, you can BUY a premade cat door, one that's made to go on either existing doors, or through a wall. Check your local pet supply store.
Pat - 29 Apr 2007 21:35 GMT | > I'll have to cut a hole in a wall and put in a door (with a | > cat flap in it), which means finding an electric saw to borrow, as well as | > the funds to buy materials to build a door and the hardward for it (knob | > and hinges), and a few other odds and ends.
| I bet for the cost of the materials, you can BUY a premade cat door, one | that's made to go on either existing doors, or through a wall. Check your | local pet supply store. It's the back yard that's getting fenced in, and I already have the cat flap, but there is no back door to install it in.
There are two exits from this house and both are in the front. I could just cut a hole in the wall somewhere in the back part of the house and put the cat flap in that, but I would rather be able to walk right out into the back yard myself, instead of going around from the front.
Magic Mood Jeep - 30 Apr 2007 00:21 GMT > | > I'll have to cut a hole in a wall and put in a door (with a > | > cat flap in it), which means finding an electric saw to borrow, as [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > back > yard myself, instead of going around from the front. OK - I misread your OP :D
For some inane reason, I read that you were cutting a hole and buying materials to build a PET door, not a PEOPLE door
jmcquown - 30 Apr 2007 00:09 GMT >> The cats have been patiently waiting for the last 14 months to run >> around outside, and it's made me very sad as well as costing a lot [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > one that's made to go on either existing doors, or through a wall. > Check your local pet supply store. That's what I was thinking! Then she'd just need to measure and cut the hole in the door for the flap. She can get a locking flap to keep out critters that aren't cats, too!
Jill
Pat - 30 Apr 2007 00:42 GMT | Magic Mood Jeep wrote: | > I bet for the cost of the materials, you can BUY a premade cat door, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | hole in the door for the flap. She can get a locking flap to keep out | critters that aren't cats, too! I guess some of my messages aren't showing up in your news reader. Maybe this one will... As I replied to Nancy Lee (above), it's the back yard that's getting fenced in, and I already have the cat flap, but there is no back door to install it in.
There are two exits from this house and both are in the front. I could just cut a hole in the wall somewhere in the back part of the house and put the cat flap in that, but I would rather be able to walk right out into the back yard myself, instead of going around from the front. So I must build a door. Not a cat door. A human door. Building a human door is a lot of work but much, much cheaper than buying one (at least where exterior doors are concerned).
jmcquown - 30 Apr 2007 00:57 GMT >> Magic Mood Jeep wrote: >>> I bet for the cost of the materials, you can BUY a premade cat door, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Building a human door is a lot of work but much, much cheaper than > buying one (at least where exterior doors are concerned). Oh, sorry! I didn't understand that part. Wow, I have never heard of a house without a back door. You definitely need a back door! What if a fire started at the front of the house? Can you raise the windows enough to climb out quickly? I'd be worried about not having an easy exit from the rear of the dwelling, for whatever reason.
Anyway, congratulations on the freebies from your neighbor. It's a good start!
Jill
Pat - 30 Apr 2007 01:11 GMT | Pat wrote: | >> Magic Mood Jeep wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] | Anyway, congratulations on the freebies from your neighbor. It's a good | start! There are windows all around, easy escapes but I don't want to leave any screens off to have a quick rear exit.
So far today I've got all the yard measuring done, dug a hole for the cedar corner post and put that in, laid out all the steel t-posts in position and have started pounding them in. I had to move the corner post because the first hole I started turned out to be right on top of a huge tree root.
On the way out to pound in a few more posts before it gets dark :)
John F. Eldredge - 30 Apr 2007 03:30 GMT >>> Magic Mood Jeep wrote: >>>> I bet for the cost of the materials, you can BUY a premade cat door, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >Anyway, congratulations on the freebies from your neighbor. It's a good >start! My house has a front door and a side door, but no doors on the rear or other side wall. This is true of several of my neighbors' houses as well, probably due to a similar floor plan (they were all apparently built by the same developer).
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Sherry - 30 Apr 2007 14:42 GMT > On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:57:30 -0500, "jmcquown" > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > -- > John F. Eldredge -- j I've noticed several of the older frame homes built around the 1930's here have two doors almost side-by-side in the front. They look like duplexes, but they're not. The door on the left goes into the living room & the door on the right goes into the front bedroom. I always thought it curious that anyone would want a door going right out of their bedroom. A lot of those homes are right around the school, so I wonder if back then they rented sleeping rooms to the schoolteachers.
Sherry goes directly into the front bedroom.
jmcquown - 30 Apr 2007 17:13 GMT >> On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:57:30 -0500, "jmcquown" >> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > Sherry > goes directly into the front bedroom. A side door makes more sense to me than two front doors. My grandmother's house had a side door near the kitchen and a front door. They were spaced far enough apart that if you needed to get out from the front or the rear of the house it was easy to do so via either door.
My apartment has a front door, a back door, and sliding doors off my bedroom. The back door and the sliders both open onto the fenced patio. I like being able to step into my bedroom off the patio (to answer a ringing phone, for example).
Jill
Sherry - 30 Apr 2007 18:25 GMT > >> On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:57:30 -0500, "jmcquown" > [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > Jill- Hide quoted text - Do you like your sliding glass doors? We had them once. I loved the way they let light in (and fresh air, since they had screens). But they were on the north and man, they leaked cold air something awful. Properly installed, I'd have really liked them.
Sherry
jmcquown - 01 May 2007 05:58 GMT >>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:57:30 -0500, "jmcquown" >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Sherry I love them! I notice no leakage of cold (or hot, for that matter) air. Of course I live in the southern US where it's really only cold for a couple of months a year, and even then not necessarily frigid cold. And there's a "pin" that inserts through the metal frame of the doors where the slider meets the stationary door frame, for security. With the pin in place when the doors are closed there is no way to lift them off the track to try to break in. The fresh air, particularly this time of year and in the fall, is wonderful!
Of course, I had to install a baby gate in front of the screen door to prevent Persia from crashing through it at the sight of another cat! LOL If I don't feel like removing it and the phone rings, I have to dash in the back door and around the corner to the bedroom, then across the room to where the phone is. Persia is invariably trying to trip me as I run ;)
Kathy - 30 Apr 2007 17:57 GMT >>> Magic Mood Jeep wrote: >>>> I bet for the cost of the materials, you can BUY a premade cat door, [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Jill I don't have a back door either. If I were to let the cat out, she could get in through a window. Thought of that? Of course, you couldn't get through the window, but maybe it would be easier /cheaper for you to go around.
Marina - 30 Apr 2007 05:39 GMT > The cats have been patiently waiting for the last 14 months to run around > outside, and it's made me very sad as well as costing a lot of money for cat > litter, but today I got *very* lucky in that a neighbor decided to replace > his welded wire fence with chain link, and gave me a mess of t-posts plus > over 100' of wire, which means I finally have enough material to fence the > yard. Congrats on the freebie! Purrs that you can finish the fence and build the door soon.
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polonca12000 - 03 May 2007 21:23 GMT > The cats have been patiently waiting for the last 14 months to run around > outside, and it's made me very sad as well as costing a lot of money for cat [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > wait until my face is not beet red any longer. When I can work in the shade > I can keep going a little longer. <snip>
> And I've got to put some vents in the roof because there's too much mold up > there! I had ordered a few trees to plant but cancelled the order because > these other projects take precedence. The cats' happiness and comfort are at > the top of my agenda this spring! Lots of purrs and best wishes, Polonca and Soncek
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