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jofirey - 28 Apr 2007 16:06 GMT
We has rats wit big heads.  Or wnz anyways!

Momma says its a rat

Daddy and big sis claims its a dog!

They won't lets me play wif it.  Should I kilz it to pertect my house?

Molly

(My daughter is the proud owner of a four week old Chihuahua.  Pup's name is
Camile and she is going to be a beauty.  But she has and is being hand
raised.  So guess who gets to baby sit while she is at work.  Much to the
dismay of the resident crew.  Cam is only just starting to cut teeth and to
stand up and walk properly.  She is eating an Esbilac and puppy food gruel.
Often.  Very often.  She has a hard time managing to eat enough to last her
very long.  But she pees and poops normally and is starting to want to play.
Her tail when she's excited looks like a crooked piece of coat hanger wire.
Will definitely get pictures as soon as I charge the movie camera.)

Jo
mlbriggs - 28 Apr 2007 17:24 GMT
> We has rats wit big heads.  Or wnz anyways!
>
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>
> Jo

So now you have another baby to raise!  Best wishes.  MLB
Marina - 28 Apr 2007 18:35 GMT
> We has rats wit big heads.  Or wnz anyways!
>
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> Her tail when she's excited looks like a crooked piece of coat hanger wire.
> Will definitely get pictures as soon as I charge the movie camera.)

Can't wait for the pics! What does Kayla say about the 'rat'?

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wafflycat - 28 Apr 2007 22:36 GMT
> (My daughter is the proud owner of a four week old Chihuahua.  Pup's name
> is Camile and she is going to be a beauty.  But she has and is being hand
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>
> Jo

Careful with that 'rat'. Many years ago a neighbour of mine had a cat. Got
chihuahua puppy. Left puppy & cat in same room overnight. Next morning, no
puppy, one very well-fed feline. It was very expensive cat food...
Ketzl's Dad - 28 Apr 2007 22:39 GMT
> Careful with that 'rat'. Many years ago a neighbour of mine had a cat. Got
> chihuahua puppy. Left puppy & cat in same room overnight. Next morning, no
> puppy, one very well-fed feline. It was very expensive cat food...

OMG!

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jofirey - 29 Apr 2007 01:10 GMT
>> (My daughter is the proud owner of a four week old Chihuahua.  Pup's name
>> is Camile and she is going to be a beauty.  But she has and is being hand
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> chihuahua puppy. Left puppy & cat in same room overnight. Next morning, no
> puppy, one very well-fed feline. It was very expensive cat food...

We are being very careful.  Grandson was even willing to sleep with his
bedroom door shut to keep the cats safely out.

The cats have checked Camile out with careful supervision, and they haven't
shown any stalking behavior.  And both have been around very small dogs
before.  But we aren't taking any chances.

Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Apr 2007 07:09 GMT
> Careful with that 'rat'. Many years ago a neighbour of mine had a cat. Got
> chihuahua puppy. Left puppy & cat in same room overnight. Next morning, no
> puppy, one very well-fed feline. It was very expensive cat food...

Good God! That's awful!

Joyce
Kreisleriana - 29 Apr 2007 15:56 GMT
> > Careful with that 'rat'. Many years ago a neighbour of mine had a cat. Got
> > chihuahua puppy. Left puppy & cat in same room overnight. Next morning, no
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>
>Joyce

We had a case here in New York City of an unleashed Chihuahua that was
killed by a peregrine falcon.  Yes, we have those here-- they live on
high rises.

Theresa
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Make Levees, Not War
Christina Websell - 29 Apr 2007 15:46 GMT
>> (My daughter is the proud owner of a four week old Chihuahua.  Pup's name
>> is Camile and she is going to be a beauty.  But she has and is being hand
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> chihuahua puppy. Left puppy & cat in same room overnight. Next morning, no
> puppy, one very well-fed feline. It was very expensive cat food...

I've heard of that happening too.   Chi puppies are so tiny I suppose a cat
that hunts would have no problems looking upon them as prey.
Foxes here will also take them when they are adult if they nip out into the
garden for a call of nature at night, unsupervised,  especially in the
cub-rearing season (which is now.)  This is when a lot of cats go missing
too.

Tweed
jofirey - 29 Apr 2007 16:21 GMT
>>> (My daughter is the proud owner of a four week old Chihuahua.  Pup's
>>> name is Camile and she is going to be a beauty.  But she has and is
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>
> Tweed

I'm just hoping my daughter is showing a little sense where her cats are
concerned.  And that she keeps an eye on my grandson as well.  He's nine.
He forgets things and doesn't always have great judgment.  But I don't think
outdoors will be a problem.

A lot of Chihuahua owners train them to use "pee pads" indoors and never let
them outside.  The woman who does my nails has a dog that is several years
old that has never been outdoors.

I'm not really sure what I think of the idea.  But these tiny dogs are less
equipped to deal with the outdoors than even a cat.

And Camile is smaller right now than prey my cats have brought home.  Except
for her very big head of course.  I'm guessing that is why she's an orphan.
They have these guys bred down so small that they can't make it thru  a
normal delivery.

I'm just glad she went home yesterday.  Makes me nervous worrying about her.
Even if she is darling.

Jo
Christina Websell - 29 Apr 2007 16:57 GMT
>>> Careful with that 'rat'. Many years ago a neighbour of mine had a cat.
>>> Got chihuahua puppy. Left puppy & cat in same room overnight. Next
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> I'm not really sure what I think of the idea.  But these tiny dogs are
> less equipped to deal with the outdoors than even a cat.

I don't believe that.  Chihuahuas are big dogs in tiny bodies, that's all.
They can enjoy a full life outdoors providing they are always supervised.
They can walk your legs off.
I still remember when my friend and I went to the seaside for a holiday,
back in the days when hotels accepted dogs.  I had a large dog, she had a
chihuahua.   We were walking along the promenade with our dogs, enjoying the
weather and the sea air when a Great Dane ambled along with his people.  My
dog did the sensible thing, and ignored him.  The chihuahua immediately
launched an attack on the Great Dane.  On his ankles, that is, as that's all
she could reach.
Thank goodness for the Dane temperament.  He looked down from his great
height at this little thing biting his feet, put his head down to her to
enquire what she was playing at which was enough to make her back off.  He
could have killed her easily with a snap.

Tweed

> And Camile is smaller right now than prey my cats have brought home.
> Except for her very big head of course.  I'm guessing that is why she's an
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>
> Jo
Lesley - 29 Apr 2007 18:51 GMT
On 29 Apr, 08:57, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I don't believe that.  Chihuahuas are big dogs in tiny bodies,

A friend of Dave's wanted to rescue a dog and went to Battersea Dogs
Home to get...well they wanted a medium to large sized dog...so as
they were looking round this bold Chihuahua came bouncing up to the
wire and doing the whole "Take me! Take me!" routine

Was a sad story, some people think it's cute to dress dogs in their
national costumes and as long as the dog is fine with it- I don't see
a problem (Try dressing a cat in the national costume eg a Siamese in
Thai costume...well I hope you have antiseptic handy) but the previous
owners having got a bit worried that his little sombero fell off when
he moved...stapled it to his head....

So there's Andy looking for a medium to big dog and this little
chihuahia (who still had stitches on his head where the RSPCA took the
staples out looked as Andy said "A bit like Frankensteins Monster")
was bouncing off the cage with an attitude that plainly said "I have
chosen YOU! Get me outta here now!"

Guess who having gone for a medium to large dog came out with the
chihuahua?

Andy always used to say of Chico "There's a rottweiler in there
somewhere....and we think he must have eaten it"

He was scared of nothing when Andy had to go and work in the USA, this
being before pet passports Chico had to be in quarantine and the
people there said he was a lovely dog but had a tendency to attempt to
fight of f**k every other dog in the place (despite being neutured) .
When he left quarantine apparently 2 great danes, several alsations
etc were so glad to see the back of Chico

Sadly he picked up some infection (possibly even from the quarantine
kennel- he became ill within a few days of leaving it) and couldn't
shake it (As Andy said "For all he had the heart of a lion..which he
probably ripped out OF a lion..he was like that") got worse and Andy
had to give the vet that awful nod

Chico's last action before he crossed the Bridge was to bite the
b***ard who just stuck a needle in

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
jmcquown - 29 Apr 2007 17:16 GMT
>>>> (My daughter is the proud owner of a four week old Chihuahua.
>>>> Pup's name is Camile and she is going to be a beauty.  But she has
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> never let them outside.  The woman who does my nails has a dog that
> is several years old that has never been outdoors.

Haven't these owners ever heard of a thing called a collar and a leash?  I
would hate it if my little mutt Sampson (RB), who never weighed more than 12
lbs. soaking wet and was usually more like 10 lbs. had never have gotten to
sniff around some shrubs, or watch in wonder as a butterfly sailed over his
head.

Anyway, I hope Camile makes out okay.

Jill
jofirey - 29 Apr 2007 21:43 GMT
>>>>> (My daughter is the proud owner of a four week old Chihuahua.
>>>>> Pup's name is Camile and she is going to be a beauty.  But she has
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>
> Jill

Oh, she will get out with supervision.  She already has Charlie wrapped
around her teeny tiny paw.  Its just I know a lot of the owners of these
little guys treat them like wind-up toys.

The poodles we raised topped out at four pounds.  At one time, the first one
tried to attack a draft horse.

Its just they aren't nearly capable of finishing the fights they try to
start.

Jo
jmcquown - 01 May 2007 12:16 GMT
>>> A lot of Chihuahua owners train them to use "pee pads" indoors and
>>> never let them outside.  The woman who does my nails has a dog that
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> Its just they aren't nearly capable of finishing the fights they try
> to start.

It's always the little ones, isn't it?  I was sitting on the front porch
with my mom once and Sampson was on a leash chained nearby.  A German
Shepherd (off leash and alone) trotted down the street.  Sampson broke his
leash and charged off after it!  Thank goodness it wasn't in the mood for a
fight.

Jill
Lesley - 01 May 2007 13:05 GMT
>It's always the little ones, isn't it?  I was sitting on the front porch
>with my mom once and Sampson was on a leash chained nearby.  A German
>Shepherd (off leash and alone) trotted down the street.  Sampson broke his
>leash and charged off after it!  Thank goodness it wasn't in the mood for a
>fight.

The most maleovent canine I ever knew was a toy poodle. He got savaged by an
Alsatian once and then waited until the Alsation was tied up outside his
owners house, the gate was closed but the Alsations paws were under it....
Sweep did so much damage the Alsation had to have several toes amputated

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Kreisleriana - 01 May 2007 15:05 GMT
>>>> A lot of Chihuahua owners train them to use "pee pads" indoors and
>>>> never let them outside.  The woman who does my nails has a dog that
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>
>Jill

Just seeing dogs bigger than them seems to piss off some little dogs
no end. ;)  

One of my colleagues at an old job had a beautiful, beautifully
trained golden retriever named Boswell.  He was an extra-big golden,
and the sweetest, most delightful dog (Anne said he had a crush on me,
about which more another time ;))

But Anne and Boz lived in a co-op full of little dogs, most of which
would go absolutely nuts at the sight of Boz.  And Boz, perfect
gentleman that he was, would always back down, and try to placate the
little monsters.  It was an insane situation for Anne-- her 90-pound
dog was being terrorized by dogs slightly bigger than hamsters. :P

Theresa
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Make Levees, Not War
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 29 Apr 2007 22:22 GMT
> And Camile is smaller right now than prey my cats have brought home.  Except
> for her very big head of course.  I'm guessing that is why she's an orphan.
> They have these guys bred down so small that they can't make it thru  a
> normal delivery.

Are you saying that her mother died giving birth to her? That's sad.

Joyce
jofirey - 30 Apr 2007 01:16 GMT
> > And Camile is smaller right now than prey my cats have brought home.
> > Except
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>
> Are you saying that her mother died giving birth to her? That's sad.

Yes, and it is sad but not uncommon for some breeds.  Several breeds with
relatively large heads almost always need to be delivered by c-section.  And
a lot of toy breed get into trouble.  So often their "litter" will only be
one or two pups.  Which would be great, except that those one or two pups
are then relatively large and difficult to deliver.

Jo
polonca12000 - 02 May 2007 22:01 GMT
> We has rats wit big heads.  Or wnz anyways!
>
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>
> Jo

VEry much looking forward to the pics.
Best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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