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Mark Edwards - 17 Apr 2007 01:15 GMT So please cease and desist.
Thank you.
Hugs and Purrs, Mark
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Joy - 17 Apr 2007 01:27 GMT > So please cease and desist. > > Thank you. > > Hugs and Purrs, > Mark Works for me!
Joy
Matthew - 17 Apr 2007 01:47 GMT >> So please cease and desist. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Joy Sex, Politics and Religion should never be discussed among friends it causes problems no matter what and should be avoided at all cost unless you are trying to get rid of that friend.
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2007 01:54 GMT >>> So please cease and desist. >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > it causes problems no matter what and should be avoided at all cost > unless you are trying to get rid of that friend. I was raised on those same principles. (Well, okay, some of us gabby girls will discuss sex in general - I sometimes think we're worse than the proverbial "locker room" talk!) But politics and religion, uh uh. Fastest way to turn a "friendly" conversation into a confrontation.
Jill
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 03:07 GMT > >news:13284csjr2gkb2@news.supernews.com... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > causes problems no matter what and should be avoided at all cost unless you > are trying to get rid of that friend. I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide the irritation for months and I finally just blurted it out. That I don't give a crap who is the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby, and I've already heard/said every cruddy thing imaginable about our Prez, so both of those topics were worn flat out. I was sick of hearing *her* and even sicker of hearing *myself* drone on and on about it. She took it pretty well. Real friends usually do appreciate honesty. Sherry
Pat - 17 Apr 2007 03:24 GMT | I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a | couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide | the irritation for months and I finally just blurted it out. That I | don't give a crap who is the father of | Anna Nicole Smith's baby And what on earth does this have to do with the fact that governments are becoming so tyrannical that non talking about the situation is a virtual guarantee that their grip on our throats will get increasingly tighter?
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 03:27 GMT On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> | I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a > | couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > becoming so tyrannical that non talking about the situation is a virtual > guarantee that their grip on our throats will get increasingly tighter? It is in the group of topics in my brain which are categorized as "Things I Am Sick of Hearing/Talking About". The same friend invited me to join the Democratic Women's Club. I said, no thanks, I think I'd rather spend the afternoon sitting on the picnic table and eating ground glass.
Sherry
Shiral - 17 Apr 2007 06:25 GMT > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Sherry Ah, excuse me, but take another look at the subject line of this thread?
I happen to disagree with you profoundly, but I agree with Mark's request to discontinue political discussions in a cat newsgroup.
Melissa
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 06:44 GMT > > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Melissa- Are you replying to me? If so, I find that highly ironic since I rarely post anything political. The post you have replied to has nothing to do with politics -- I've simply stated that political discussions & celebrity gossip bores me and have absolutely no interest in spending time with a group of women who discuss either topic. There was really nothing for you to either agree *or* disagree with, in the original thought/intent of the post. Sherry
Shiral - 17 Apr 2007 17:29 GMT > > > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> > > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > - Show quoted text - It simply seemed you managed to make a political statement on the way to saying politics bore you.
Melissa
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:23 GMT > > > > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> > > > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Melissa- What? Are you joking? I'm assuming that you are, but I don't see a smiley face? If not, let me get this straight. This entire thread in consideration, you singled out *my* post -- over ALL the others--and slapped my hand for it? For posting that politics bore me, but I somehow managed to offend you by making THAT sound like a political statement? Why?
Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:27 GMT >>On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> >>wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > I happen to disagree with you profoundly, but I agree with Mark's > request to discontinue political discussions in a cat newsgroup. But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title of this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those who CHOOSE to discuss it? I seriously doubt whether ANY of us reads every single post to this newsgroup! It's easy enough to skip over posts we don't want to read - whether the topic is of no interest, or we just get tired of pursuing it, most threads die eventually.
> Melissa jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Apr 2007 21:05 GMT > But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title > of this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the topic is of no interest, or we just get tired of > pursuing it, most threads die eventually. I truly don't understand why people can't follow this simple logic.
Why do so many people feel compelled to read EVERYTHING that's posted here? I sure don't! This newsgroup has 100-150 posts a day. I don't have time to read all of them. I read the ones that are interesting to me. I would never dream of asking people to stop posting to a thread, just because I happen to find it boring. Occasionally a thread that doesn't interest me in the slightest will take over the newsgroup. When that happens, I consider it a light day on RPCA. :)
So, I'd like to challenge the people who've asked us to stop this conversation: please explain why we should. Why are you unable to simply kill the thread, or ignore the posts, or whatever? I'm not just saying this rhetorically. I really don't get it. It's not that hard to pick and choose, so why don't you? What makes that so difficult?
Joyce
Sjouke Burry - 17 Apr 2007 21:32 GMT > > But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title > > of this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Joyce Do you consider politicians to pets??? Or are they related to cats??? Or are you just trying to bugger people??? At the very least its putting you in a category which is quite despicable.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Apr 2007 02:16 GMT > Do you consider politicians to pets??? I don't understand what this means.
> Or are they related to cats??? We have many, many off-topic converations. Hang around a while and you'll see that. The objection to political discussions doesn't come from the fact that it's off-topic. I guess a lot of people are afraid they'll cause flame wars. And while that's not a totally irrational fear, I think they're not giving us enough credit for being able to discuss politics civilly. I'm all for trying to ban flames, but why should certain topics be off-limits? (Allowing for things like work-safe, family-safe, etc.)
> Or are you just trying to bugger people??? > At the very least its putting you in a category > which is quite despicable. That seems a bit over the top. Despicable? LOL.
Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Apr 2007 21:35 GMT >> > But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title > of >> this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those > who CHOOSE [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > At the very least its putting you in a category > which is quite despicable. Judging from your post, English is not your native tongue, so perhaps you can be excused for not comprehending Joyce's post. However, most news-groups have their share of off-topic posts, and when the title is so clearly NOT cat related (as in this case) why would you even bother to READ it, much less reply?
Sjouke Burry - 18 Apr 2007 22:27 GMT >>> > But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title > of >>> this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those > who CHOOSE [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > so clearly NOT cat related (as in this case) why would you even bother > to READ it, much less reply? Try and visit alt.astronomy , sci.astro, alt.windows-xp etc. etc., and see what off-topic drivel can do to a newsgroup. In the end it drives away people, and leaves complete newsgroups in the hands of a small group of people jelling at each other, instead of people discussing things they have agreed upon by choosing a newsgroupname, in this case pets and cats. Also, dropping off-topic bombs into newsgroups to stir up trouble seems to be the hobby of a growing group of people. Religion/sex/politics/crime are surefire subjects to raise a debate. BUT, maybe thats wat you want..... (I hope my english does not sound to daft...)
Tanada - 17 Apr 2007 16:48 GMT > It is in the group of topics in my brain which are categorized as > "Things I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > eating > ground glass. I still have some of that ground glass in my back yard, Sherry. I agree with you, but I have the ingredients to carry it out.
Pam S.
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 17:22 GMT > > It is in the group of topics in my brain which are categorized as > > "Things I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Pam S. Awesome! I'll bring the tablecloth and we'll discuss the latest various conspiracies (and they are many)...of the Mothership being carried out right under our noses in our own homes. Now that's scary when you think about it.
Seriously though, everyone; It is not my intention to offend any friends, either IRL or cyber. I've found that the older I get, I realize life is too short to spend it letting people tie me to the telephone, or worse, in person, for an hour and drone on and on about the same, old, tired, topics while I sit there wanting to bolt and run. but instead listen intently with a glazed look on my face, all in the name of being "polite". Yesterday was my birthday so I felt a little more entitled than usual. :-)
With newsgroups, I can roll my eyeballs and no one sees. :-)
I like to think that I can recognize that glazed-over look on *my* friends when I get wound up on a topic that they are not interested in. I hope so.
Tanada - 18 Apr 2007 00:32 GMT > life is too short to spend it letting people tie me to the telephone, > or worse, in person, for an hour and drone on and on about the same, > old, tired, topics while I sit there wanting to bolt and run. > but instead listen intently with a glazed look on my face, all in the > name of being "polite". Yesterday was my birthday so I felt a little > more entitled than usual. :-) HAPPY PURRDAY SHERRY!!!! May you have as many more purrdays as there are spare hairs on Larry's head (a lot, but not too many)
Pam S. and the Fayetteville Mafia
Sherry - 18 Apr 2007 01:12 GMT > > life is too short to spend it letting people tie me to the telephone, > > or worse, in person, for an hour and drone on and on about the same, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. and the Fayetteville Mafia OOOOOooooo!!! Thank you Pammy! Only you could offer such a bizarre birthday wish, and probably only me would laugh my head off reading it. I know there are at least 25 spare hairs, because he's too cheap to go to the barbershop and I cut his hair just the other day. (I still make him say the 7 magic words when he sits down in the chair before I'll even turn on the clippers...."I DON'T CARE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE" And that's a lot of purrdays!
Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:18 GMT > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > eating > ground glass. I used to try to be a-political, too - until I saw what voter apathy and reluctance to "make waves" was leading us into. (Think how different the world would be today, if your average well-intentioned German in the 1930's had voiced his/her opposition to Hitler BEFORE it became dangerous to disagree with the status quo!)
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:11 GMT On Apr 17, 12:18�pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > voiced his/her opposition to Hitler BEFORE it became > dangerous to disagree with the status quo I don't think I'm a-political though. I firmly believe *everyone* should become educated on the issues at hand and vote; and let your congressmen know exactly how you think you should be represented. I just don't think a nonstop stream of anti-<insert political topic> venom confined within a small circle of friends really is very effective. I'm talking about IRL friends now, not newsgroups. It always makes me want to say, "Yes, but what are you *doing* about it?" At least when I *do* get on a soapbox about something, I don't just rave at my friends like a rabid squirrel from my armchair, whichi s exactly what the friends I'm talking about do about politics. I probably do plenty of it, but I also circulate petitions and do try to put some effort behind the words. Newsgroup discussion does differ in the way that your words/views potentially reach an awful lot of people. And again, I don't care one way or another, as long as the thread is marked so that I can choose to read it, or not. I feel the same way about any offtopic thread, not just politics. It seems to me that the resentment, anger, hurt feeling stem more from "net-nannying" people than from the political views expressed themselves. I hate using the word "net-nanny'' but you know what I mean.
Sherry
Sherry
Pat - 17 Apr 2007 19:27 GMT | I used to try to be a-political, too - until I saw what | voter apathy and reluctance to "make waves" was leading us | into. (Think how different the world would be today, if | your average well-intentioned German in the 1930's had | voiced his/her opposition to Hitler BEFORE it became | dangerous to disagree with the status quo!) Thanks to electronic voting machines (now in 70% of precincts nationwide) it's no longer enough to educate yourself on the issues and go out and vote for the best candidates.
See the following 12-minute video of Clinton Eugene Curtis, a former programmer for NASA and Exxon, testifying before the US Judiciary that he was enlisted by Republicans to create a program which could guarantee Bush's presidential election victory: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5851494414241212085
If it can be done for Bush, anyone can do it. For more on how elections can be and are being hacked, watch the following:
Princeton University Exposes Diebold Flaws (9 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g
Hack The Vote (Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ziiqm1BYy5w Hack The Vote (Part 2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5p7YjWaHNc Hack The Vote (Part 3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zNg-j4KJg0 Hack The Vote (Part 4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdrtxGNovvo
American Blackout (award-winning 90-minute documentary): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6083303169951698685
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:29 GMT On Apr 17, 1:27�pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> | I used to try to be a-political, too - until I saw what > | voter apathy and reluctance to "make waves" was leading us [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > American Blackout (award-winning 90-minute documentary):http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6083303169951698685 But what are *you* doing about it, as an individual?
Sherry
Pat - 17 Apr 2007 19:46 GMT On Apr 17, 1:27?pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote > | [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > American Blackout (award-winning 90-minute > documentary):http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6083303169951698685 But what are *you* doing about it, as an individual?
Sharing educational material like the above, whenever and wherever I can. Telling everyone I know to do the same.
One good thing to do (I've done it) is contact your representatives and urge them to support and/or co-sponsor HR811 the Paper Audit Bill.
Visit http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/ and take action!
See also http://wheresthepaper.org/
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:54 GMT On Apr 17, 1:46?pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 1:27?pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > See alsohttp://wheresthepaper.org/- Hide quoted text - That's good; I think part of political apathy comes from the thought "What can I do about it--I'm only one person" (This is true of *any* issue--animal cruelty, spay/neuter, too) Just curious, but you do post in any political newsgroups? You seem to have a lot to say and do a lot of internet research--maybe there's other forums that would be interested too.
Sherry
Pat - 17 Apr 2007 20:09 GMT | I think part of political apathy comes from the thought | "What can I do about it--I'm only one person" (This is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | research--maybe there's other forums that would be | interested too. Since my candidate (Ron Paul) is being largely ignored by the mainstream media (meaning the ones in the Murdoch/Turner empires) with its globalist agenda, I'm doing my utmost to promote him online.
I've compiled some useful links and things to do, in case you think our liberty is important enough to get involved and fight to maintain, check them out:
A good starting point: http://ronpaul.org
Review of his latest book: http://www.mises.org/store/Foreign-Policy-of-Freedom-A-P359C0.aspx
Archives of his writings and speeches: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html
There's also an archive at http://www.house.gov/paul/ then click on the Index for Texas Straight Talk
His YouTube page: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RonPaul2008dotcom
The campaign site: http://www.ronpaul2008.com
Support hub: http://www.dailypaul.com/
His MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/ronpaul2008
Time Magazine gets blasted (and I mean BLASTED!!) for failing conservatives - Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1GoAn_FhBE Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDuMpKJMwo
Yahoo Groups to join: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RonPaul2008/join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RonPaulGrassRootsAction/join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RonPaulforPresident/join
Become a member at http://www.digg.com then check the Politics sections for articles to Digg.
Email media outlets asking for coverage of Ron Paul. He's like to be on Hardball with Chris Matthews so contact hardball@msnbc.com
You can use this website to email to media without having to look up contact info: http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/
Search for straw polls online and vote for Ron Paul. If the did not include him, read them the riot act by email.
Sign up for Google Alerts (http://alerts.google.com) on "ron paul" to find everything that turns up on the 'net about him and you'll find many blogs and other sites where you can leave comments and respond to others' comments.
Join http://www.downsizedc.org/ and take actions.
Last but not least, I've downloaded dozens of documentary films from Google Video, converted the files and burned them to DVDs that can be watched on television. I've also put many good mp3s on CD. I am duplicating these disks for a semi-public Liberty Disk lending library to be placed in local stores. It's a good way to get customers to keep coming back in!
I'll also be making signs, placards and other campaign merchandise available in the near future.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Apr 2007 21:26 GMT > That's good; I think part of political apathy comes from the thought > "What can I do [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that would be > interested too. The trouble with posting to political newsgroups (aside from the flames and profanity) is that you're preaching to those who are ALREADY politically active. If democracy is under threat (as many of us believe) the people to "convert" are those with no opinion, who simply don't care! (Even if the majority turn out to favor the "other guy", at least it would genuinely BE "the will of the people", if everyone could be motivated to eudcate themselves on the issues and VOTE.)
Pat - 18 Apr 2007 21:36 GMT | The trouble with posting to political newsgroups (aside from | the flames and profanity) is that you're preaching to those [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | could be motivated to eudcate themselves on the issues and | VOTE.) Our REPUBLIC is what's under threat today. A Republic is governed by the rule of law, the highest law of the land being the Constitution. Democracy is rule by majority, even when it goes against the supreme law of the land.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands...." Does that ring any bells????
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Apr 2007 21:15 GMT > | I used to try to be a-political, too - until I saw what > | voter apathy and reluctance to "make waves" was leading us [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > it's no longer enough to educate yourself on the issues and go out and vote > for the best candidates. You get no argument from me about that! (I've not been in Arizona for an election, yet, but California refused to USE the electronic machines unless forced to - people could vote early, using them if they chose, but the general election last November still used paper ballots marked in ink.) Of course, if people weren't already suspicious of them, the fact that the guy who manufactures them promised to deliver his state's vote to Bush (and DID) would be plenty of cause for uneasiness!
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:13 GMT > | I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a > | couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > becoming so tyrannical that non talking about the situation is a virtual > guarantee that their grip on our throats will get increasingly tighter? Good point! (You and I may not agree on a lot of political things, but the freedom to DISCUSS them openly should be precious to ALL of us!)
Shiral - 18 Apr 2007 17:43 GMT On Apr 17, 10:13 am, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > | I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a > > | couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I can agree with that, too. SHerry, if you felt jumped on by me, I apologize. That was not my intention.
For those of you who are glad you live next door to armed neighbors, I'll just leave you with my perspective, here. Last night, the neighbors in the apartment above mine started another marital quarrel. This is not, alas, an unusual occurrence. The woman of the couple always sounds extremely angry and on the verge of truly losing all self control. She doesn't just shout, she snarls, and often uses four- letter words. Unfortunately these arguments often happen after ten or eleven p.m. last night. (I can't understand why her husband isn't long gone, by now. It can't be pleasant living with her.)
Anyhow, she started up again late last night. Not surprisingly, her next door neighbor pounded on her bedroom wall in protest as it was after eleven p.m. on a weeknight. I was considering pounding on my ceiling as well. This woman started really yelling at the neighbor as well as her husband, screeching very vulgar language. Frankly, I'm thankful she wasn't armed, and also that I had refrained from thumping on my ceiling. I would not care to have that kind of abuse directed at me, ever by anyone. As unpleasant as it was to hear though, I'd far rather have listened to that than to gunshots.
However much I wish my upstairs neighbor would move away, I do not wish her any harm. She is not the first obnoxious neighbor I've had in this place (Although most of the people here are pleasant and normal). It's not fun ever having boorish neighbors. But while they're bad enough unarmed, I REALLY wouldn't want to live near this woman if she had a gun. I remember the obnoxious neighbors, and I was delighted when the last memorably obnoxious guy(Who played his TV very loud late at night and periodically screamed at his girlfriend) was finally evicted after numerous neighbors complained about him to the Resident Manager and after a visit from the police at three a.m when he started beating his girlfriend in the middle of the night. But his presence here was ONLY a source of irritation. No matter where one lives, one runs the risk of being around annoying people But it did not end in tragedy, and he left without injuring anyone ELSE.
Think about that one, for a while.
Melissa
Sherry - 18 Apr 2007 18:45 GMT > On Apr 17, 10:13 am, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > Melissa Now I'm really bumfuzzled. Just yesterday, you wrote, to me: "Ah, excuse me, but take another look at the subject line of this thread? I happen to disagree with you profoundly, but I agree with Mark's request to discontinue political discussions in a cat newsgroup."
And today you author a posting about gun control, one of the most volatile, and yes, "political" discussions. Far more "political" by definition than anything I ever posted in this thread. (and what I did post, was far LESS political than what half a dozen other posters wrote--yet you seemed to have no problem with that)
It's not whether or not politics should be a taboo subject. It's the hypocrisy that has me absolutely shaking my head in disbelief.
Sherry
Matthew - 17 Apr 2007 03:30 GMT >> <Mark-Edwa...@comcast.net> wrote in message >> >news:13284csjr2gkb2@news.supernews.com... [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > appreciate honesty. > Sherry Oh come on sherry lets talk about that I could get a couple good licks in there
Rationality just took back over Sorry momentary Playboy losses of thought there. I feel the same way about Paris Hilton no one gives a flying F@ck about the party trash girl I had to tell a friend of mind that is love with her.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:22 GMT >>Real friends usually do >>appreciate honesty. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > about the party trash girl I had to tell a friend of mind that is love with > her. Out of curiosity, has he ever MET her? You can't be "in love" with someone you don't even know! ("Infatuated" maybe - with an idea, not a person - but love needs time and propinquity in order to grow.)
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 03:15 GMT > So please cease and desist. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request Well, yeah, but some people can discuss politics rationally and some can't. I understand the rationale that politics has no business on a cat usenet group, even though personally it doesn't bother me. At least I can quit reading if it does. When you get buttonholed by someone IRL it's still socially unacceptable to stick your fingers in your ears. The MF word DOES bother me, intensely. I could go the rest of my life and never see that word in print and be quite happy about it. We all have our own little different quirks that bug us.
Sherry
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2007 07:09 GMT >> So please cease and desist. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > IRL it's still socially unacceptable to stick your fingers in your > ears. I personally don't care if it's socially unacceptable. I'd gladly stick my fingers in my ears to get the message across that I don't want to hear it!
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:31 GMT >>>So please cease and desist. >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I personally don't care if it's socially unacceptable. I'd gladly stick my > fingers in my ears to get the message across that I don't want to hear it! Don't you think that's likely to appear rather ridiculous, if you're older than ten or so? (Easier to simply avoid the offending person, I should think - and easier still when all you need do is ignore newsgroup posts by that person, instead of replying to them.)
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2007 19:53 GMT >>>> So please cease and desist. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > you need do is ignore newsgroup posts by that person, > instead of replying to them.) Not if you're stuck in a captive audience. This example isn't about politics, but I used to sit next to a co-worker who would go on and on about Jesus this and Jesus that. Better for me to plug my ears to get my message across than to tell her to shut the F*** up!
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:56 GMT > >>>> So please cease and desist. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Jesus this and Jesus that. Better for me to plug my ears to get my message > across than to tell her to shut the F*** up!- Hide quoted text - Finally! Someone "gets it"!! I don't mean plugging your ears, but the way it feels to be a captive audience. (When I was working, I found a Walkman really useful for this. Sometimes I just had the earplugs in, and it wasn't even turned on!!)
Sherry
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2007 21:00 GMT >>>>> the rationale that politics has no business on a cat usenet group, >>>>> even though personally [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Sometimes I > just had the earplugs in, and it wasn't even turned on!!) Unfortunately I couldn't wear a walkman. I was doing tech support and had to wear a headset and answer the phone. But boy, did I want to smack her into the next department! Someone in the department mentioned she had been prescribed Paxil and this woman said, "Jesus is my Paxil." Oh give me an f'n break!
Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Apr 2007 21:20 GMT >>>>>So please cease and desist. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Jesus this and Jesus that. Better for me to plug my ears to get my message > across than to tell her to shut the F*** up! I'm afraid I'd be more likely to say (laughing incredulously) "You can't really BELIEVE that!" (Might make me an enemy for life, but I guarantee I'd not be bored by those particular remarks again!)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:11 GMT >>So please cease and desist. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > see that word in print and be quite happy about it. > We all have our own little different quirks that bug us. Of course, and SFAIK, no one is being compelled to participate in ANY discussions - whether they are on- or off-topic! One of the nicest things about this newsgroup, IMO, is the fact that we DO discuss so many things that are only marginally cat-related. Illnesses and personal tragedies (our own and those of our friends), politics - even religion on occasion. That's what "freedom of speech" is all about, and why we should all do our best to defeat government and corporate attempts to limit the freedom of the Internet. More than any other newsgroup I've encountered, this one seems to be a group of friends who feel free to discuss various topics, and express our opinions. You encounter very few "flames" here, and most of those are perpetrated by trolls, not regular posters. (There are almost NO names in my "kill-file" for this group, because almost everyone here has worthwhile things to say, even if I don't always agree with them.)
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2007 04:12 GMT >So please cease and desist. > >Thank you. > >Hugs and Purrs, >Mark I love politics. Just not in my ng. Come on people, peace, love and kitties. And as for those poor people at VT, why don't we concentrate on sending them purrs?
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Tanada - 17 Apr 2007 16:45 GMT > So please cease and desist. > > Thank you. Thank YOU. I'd love to have a smaller killfile.
Pam S.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 17:56 GMT > So please cease and desist. There's some reason you can't just scroll past any threads you consider "political"? (Instead of starting another one, just to express your disdain for them?)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Apr 2007 21:12 GMT > So please cease and desist. Mark, with all due respect, weren't you the person who started the gun control discussion, with your post about the VT shootings? It seems unfair to spark a controveral discussion and then, when it gets underway, ask people to stop. (And why not just stop reading it, if you're sick of it?)
Joyce
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