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Mark Edwards - 17 Apr 2007 01:15 GMT
So please cease and desist.

Thank you.

Hugs and Purrs,
Mark
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Joy - 17 Apr 2007 01:27 GMT
> So please cease and desist.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark

Works for me!

Joy
Matthew - 17 Apr 2007 01:47 GMT
>> So please cease and desist.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Joy
Sex, Politics and Religion   should never be discussed among friends it
causes problems no matter what and should be avoided at all cost unless you
are trying to get rid of that friend.
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2007 01:54 GMT
>>> So please cease and desist.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> it causes problems no matter what and should be avoided at all cost
> unless you are trying to get rid of that friend.

I was raised on those same principles.  (Well, okay, some of us gabby girls
will discuss sex in general - I sometimes think we're worse than the
proverbial "locker room" talk!)  But politics and religion, uh uh.  Fastest
way to turn a "friendly" conversation into a confrontation.

Jill
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 03:07 GMT
> >news:13284csjr2gkb2@news.supernews.com...
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> causes problems no matter what and should be avoided at all cost unless you
> are trying to get rid of that friend.

I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a
couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide
the irritation for months and I finally just blurted it out. That I
don't give a crap who is the father of
Anna Nicole Smith's baby, and I've already heard/said every cruddy
thing imaginable about
our Prez, so both of those topics were  worn flat out. I was sick of
hearing *her* and even sicker
of hearing *myself* drone on and on about it. She took it pretty well.
Real friends usually do
appreciate honesty.
Sherry
Pat - 17 Apr 2007 03:24 GMT
| I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a
| couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide
| the irritation for months and I finally just blurted it out. That I
| don't give a crap who is the father of
| Anna Nicole Smith's baby

And what on earth does this have to do with the fact that governments are
becoming so tyrannical that non talking about the situation is a virtual
guarantee that their grip on our throats will get increasingly tighter?
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 03:27 GMT
On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
wrote:

> | I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a
> | couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> becoming so tyrannical that non talking about the situation is a virtual
> guarantee that their grip on our throats will get increasingly tighter?

It is in the group of topics in my brain which are categorized as
"Things I
Am Sick of Hearing/Talking About".
The same friend invited me to join the Democratic Women's Club. I
said, no thanks,
I think I'd rather spend the afternoon sitting on the picnic table and
eating
ground glass.

Sherry
Shiral - 17 Apr 2007 06:25 GMT
> On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Sherry

Ah, excuse me, but take another look at the subject line of this
thread?

I happen to disagree with you profoundly, but I agree with Mark's
request to discontinue political discussions in a cat newsgroup.

Melissa
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 06:44 GMT
> > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Melissa-

Are you replying to me? If so, I find that highly ironic since I
rarely post anything political.
The post you have replied to has nothing to do with politics -- I've
simply stated that political discussions &
celebrity gossip bores me and have absolutely no interest in spending
time with a group of women who discuss
either topic.
There was really nothing for you to either agree *or* disagree with,
in the original thought/intent of the post.
Sherry
Shiral - 17 Apr 2007 17:29 GMT
> > > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
> > > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

It simply seemed you managed to make a political statement on the way
to saying politics bore you.

Melissa
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:23 GMT
> > > > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
> > > > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> Melissa-

What? Are you joking? I'm assuming that you are, but I don't see a
smiley face?
If not, let me get this straight.
This entire thread in consideration, you singled out *my* post -- over
ALL the others--and slapped my hand
for it?
For posting that politics bore me, but I somehow managed to offend you
by making THAT sound like a political
statement? Why?

Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:27 GMT
>>On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
>>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> I happen to disagree with you profoundly, but I agree with Mark's
> request to discontinue political discussions in a cat newsgroup.

But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title
of this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those
who CHOOSE to discuss it?  I seriously doubt whether ANY of
us reads every single post to this newsgroup!  It's easy
enough to skip over posts we don't want to read - whether
the topic is of no interest, or we just get tired of
pursuing it, most threads die eventually.

> Melissa
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Apr 2007 21:05 GMT
> But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title
> of this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the topic is of no interest, or we just get tired of
> pursuing it, most threads die eventually.

I truly don't understand why people can't follow this simple logic.

Why do so many people feel compelled to read EVERYTHING that's posted
here? I sure don't! This newsgroup has 100-150 posts a day. I don't have
time to read all of them. I read the ones that are interesting to me. I
would never dream of asking people to stop posting to a thread, just
because I happen to find it boring. Occasionally a thread that doesn't
interest me in the slightest will take over the newsgroup. When that
happens, I consider it a light day on RPCA. :)

So, I'd like to challenge the people who've asked us to stop this
conversation: please explain why we should. Why are you unable to simply
kill the thread, or ignore the posts, or whatever? I'm not just saying
this rhetorically. I really don't get it. It's not that hard to pick and
choose, so why don't you? What makes that so difficult?

Joyce
Sjouke Burry - 17 Apr 2007 21:32 GMT
>  > But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title
>  > of this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Joyce
Do you consider politicians to pets???
Or are they related to cats???
Or are you just trying to bugger people???
At the very least its putting you in a category
which is quite despicable.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Apr 2007 02:16 GMT
> Do you consider politicians to pets???

I don't understand what this means.

> Or are they related to cats???

We have many, many off-topic converations. Hang around a while and you'll
see that. The objection to political discussions doesn't come from the
fact that it's off-topic. I guess a lot of people are afraid they'll cause
flame wars. And while that's not a totally irrational fear, I think they're
not giving us enough credit for being able to discuss politics civilly. I'm
all for trying to ban flames, but why should certain topics be off-limits?
(Allowing for things like work-safe, family-safe, etc.)

> Or are you just trying to bugger people???
> At the very least its putting you in a category
> which is quite despicable.

That seems a bit over the top. Despicable? LOL.

Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Apr 2007 21:35 GMT
>>  > But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title  > of
>> this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those  > who CHOOSE
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> At the very least its putting you in a category
> which is quite despicable.

Judging from your post, English is not your native tongue,
so perhaps you can be excused for not comprehending Joyce's
post.  However, most news-groups have their share of
off-topic posts, and when the title is so clearly NOT cat
related (as in this case) why would you even bother to READ
it, much less reply?
Sjouke Burry - 18 Apr 2007 22:27 GMT
>>>  > But when the topic is clear (as it certainly is in the title  > of
>>> this thread) why not just leave the discussion to those  > who CHOOSE
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> so clearly NOT cat related (as in this case) why would you even bother
> to READ it, much less reply?
Try and visit alt.astronomy , sci.astro,
alt.windows-xp etc. etc., and see what
off-topic drivel can do to a newsgroup.
In the end it drives away people, and
leaves complete newsgroups in the hands
of a small group of people jelling at
each other, instead of people discussing
things they have agreed upon by choosing
a newsgroupname, in this case pets and cats.
Also, dropping off-topic bombs into
newsgroups to stir up trouble seems to be
the hobby of a growing group of people.
Religion/sex/politics/crime are surefire
subjects to raise a debate.
BUT, maybe thats wat you want.....
(I hope my english does not sound to daft...)
Tanada - 17 Apr 2007 16:48 GMT
> It is in the group of topics in my brain which are categorized as
> "Things I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> eating
> ground glass.

I still have some of that ground glass in my back yard, Sherry.  I agree with you, but I have the ingredients to carry it out.

Pam S.
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 17:22 GMT
> > It is in the group of topics in my brain which are categorized as
> > "Things I
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Pam S.

Awesome! I'll bring the tablecloth and we'll discuss the latest
various conspiracies (and they are many)...of the Mothership being
carried out right under our noses in our own homes. Now that's scary
when you think about it.

Seriously though, everyone; It is not my intention to offend any
friends, either IRL or cyber. I've found that the older I get, I
realize
life is too short to spend it letting people tie me to the telephone,
or worse, in person, for an hour and  drone on and on about the same,
old, tired, topics while I sit there wanting to bolt and run.
but instead listen intently with a glazed look on my face, all in the
name of being "polite". Yesterday was my birthday so I felt a little
more entitled than usual. :-)

With newsgroups, I can roll my eyeballs and no one sees. :-)

I like to think that I can recognize that glazed-over look on *my*
friends when I get wound up on a topic that they are not interested
in. I hope so.
Tanada - 18 Apr 2007 00:32 GMT
> life is too short to spend it letting people tie me to the telephone,
> or worse, in person, for an hour and  drone on and on about the same,
> old, tired, topics while I sit there wanting to bolt and run.
> but instead listen intently with a glazed look on my face, all in the
> name of being "polite". Yesterday was my birthday so I felt a little
> more entitled than usual. :-)

HAPPY PURRDAY SHERRY!!!!  May you have as many more purrdays as there are spare hairs on Larry's head (a lot, but not too many)

Pam S. and the Fayetteville Mafia
Sherry - 18 Apr 2007 01:12 GMT
> > life is too short to spend it letting people tie me to the telephone,
> > or worse, in person, for an hour and drone on and on about the same,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Pam S. and the Fayetteville Mafia

OOOOOooooo!!! Thank you Pammy!
Only you could offer such a bizarre birthday wish, and probably only
me would laugh my head off reading it.
I know there are at least 25 spare hairs, because he's too cheap to go
to the barbershop and I cut his hair just the other day. (I still make
him say the 7 magic words when he sits down in the chair before I'll
even turn on the clippers...."I DON'T CARE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE"
And that's a lot of purrdays!

Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:18 GMT
> On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> eating
> ground glass.

I used to try to be a-political, too - until I saw what
voter apathy and reluctance to "make waves" was leading us
into.  (Think how different the world would be today, if
your average well-intentioned German in the 1930's had
voiced his/her opposition to Hitler BEFORE it became
dangerous to disagree with the status quo!)
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:11 GMT
On Apr 17, 12:18�pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 9:24 pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> voiced his/her opposition to Hitler BEFORE it became
> dangerous to disagree with the status quo

I don't think I'm a-political though. I firmly believe *everyone*
should become
educated on the issues at hand and vote; and let your congressmen
know
exactly how you think you should be represented.
I just don't think a nonstop stream of anti-<insert political topic>
venom confined
within a small circle of friends really is very effective. I'm talking
about IRL
friends now, not newsgroups. It always makes me want to say, "Yes, but
what
are you *doing* about it?"
At least when I *do* get on a soapbox about something, I don't just
rave at my friends
like a rabid squirrel from my armchair, whichi s exactly what the
friends I'm
talking about do about politics. I probably do plenty of it, but I
also circulate
petitions and do try to put some effort behind the words.
Newsgroup discussion does differ in the way that your words/views
potentially reach
an awful lot of people. And again, I don't care one way or another, as
long as the
thread is marked so that I can choose to read it, or not. I feel the
same way about
any offtopic thread, not just politics.
It seems to me that the resentment, anger, hurt feeling stem more from
"net-nannying" people
than from the political views expressed themselves. I hate using the
word "net-nanny'' but
you know what I mean.

Sherry

Sherry
Pat - 17 Apr 2007 19:27 GMT
| I used to try to be a-political, too - until I saw what
| voter apathy and reluctance to "make waves" was leading us
| into.  (Think how different the world would be today, if
| your average well-intentioned German in the 1930's had
| voiced his/her opposition to Hitler BEFORE it became
| dangerous to disagree with the status quo!)

Thanks to electronic voting machines (now in 70% of precincts nationwide)
it's no longer enough to educate yourself on the issues and go out and vote
for the best candidates.

See the following 12-minute video of Clinton Eugene Curtis, a former
programmer for NASA and Exxon, testifying before the US Judiciary that he
was enlisted by Republicans to create a program which could guarantee Bush's
presidential election victory:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5851494414241212085

If it can be done for Bush, anyone can do it. For more on how elections can
be and are being hacked, watch the following:

Princeton University Exposes Diebold Flaws (9 minutes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g

Hack The Vote (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ziiqm1BYy5w
Hack The Vote (Part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5p7YjWaHNc
Hack The Vote (Part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zNg-j4KJg0
Hack The Vote (Part 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdrtxGNovvo

American Blackout (award-winning 90-minute documentary):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6083303169951698685
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:29 GMT
On Apr 17, 1:27�pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
wrote:

> | I used to try to be a-political, too - until I saw what
> | voter apathy and reluctance to "make waves" was leading us
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> American Blackout (award-winning 90-minute documentary):http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6083303169951698685

But what are *you* doing about it, as an individual?

Sherry
Pat - 17 Apr 2007 19:46 GMT
On Apr 17, 1:27?pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
wrote:
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote
> |
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> American Blackout (award-winning 90-minute
> documentary):http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6083303169951698685

But what are *you* doing about it, as an individual?

Sharing educational material like the above, whenever and wherever I can.
Telling everyone I know to do the same.

One good thing to do (I've done it) is contact your representatives and urge
them to support and/or co-sponsor HR811 the Paper Audit Bill.

Visit http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/ and take action!

See also http://wheresthepaper.org/
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:54 GMT
On Apr 17, 1:46?pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
wrote:

> On Apr 17, 1:27?pm, "Pat" <patricia251.catlit...@centurytel.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> See alsohttp://wheresthepaper.org/- Hide quoted text -

That's good; I think part of political apathy comes from the thought
"What can I do
about it--I'm only one person" (This is true of *any* issue--animal
cruelty, spay/neuter, too)
Just curious, but you do post in any political newsgroups? You seem to
have a lot
to say and do a lot of internet research--maybe there's other forums
that would be
interested too.

Sherry
Pat - 17 Apr 2007 20:09 GMT
| I think part of political apathy comes from the thought
| "What can I do about it--I'm only one person" (This is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
| research--maybe there's other forums that would be
| interested too.

Since my candidate (Ron Paul) is being largely ignored by the mainstream
media (meaning the ones in the Murdoch/Turner empires) with its globalist
agenda, I'm doing my utmost to promote him online.

I've compiled some useful links and things to do, in case you think our
liberty is important enough to get involved and fight to maintain, check
them out:

A good starting point: http://ronpaul.org

Review of his latest book:
http://www.mises.org/store/Foreign-Policy-of-Freedom-A-P359C0.aspx

Archives of his writings and speeches:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul-arch.html

There's also an archive at http://www.house.gov/paul/ then click on the
Index for Texas Straight Talk

His YouTube page:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RonPaul2008dotcom

The campaign site: http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Support hub: http://www.dailypaul.com/

His MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/ronpaul2008

Time Magazine gets blasted (and I mean BLASTED!!) for failing
conservatives - Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1GoAn_FhBE
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDuMpKJMwo

Yahoo Groups to join:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RonPaul2008/join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RonPaulGrassRootsAction/join
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RonPaulforPresident/join

Become a member at http://www.digg.com then check the Politics sections for
articles to Digg.

Email media outlets asking for coverage of Ron Paul. He's like to be on
Hardball with Chris Matthews so contact hardball@msnbc.com

You can use this website to email to media without having to look up contact
info: http://capwiz.com/pdamerica/

Search for straw polls online and vote for Ron Paul. If the did not include
him, read them the riot act by email.

Sign up for Google Alerts (http://alerts.google.com) on "ron paul" to find
everything that turns up on the 'net about him and you'll find many blogs
and other sites where you can leave comments and respond to others'
comments.

Join http://www.downsizedc.org/ and take actions.

Last but not least, I've downloaded dozens of documentary films from Google
Video, converted the files and burned them to DVDs that can be watched on
television. I've also put many good mp3s on CD. I am duplicating these disks
for a semi-public Liberty Disk lending library to be placed in local stores.
It's a good way to get customers to keep coming back in!

I'll also be making signs, placards and other campaign merchandise available
in the near future.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Apr 2007 21:26 GMT
> That's good; I think part of political apathy comes from the thought
> "What can I do
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> that would be
> interested too.

The trouble with posting to political newsgroups (aside from
the flames and profanity) is that you're preaching to those
who are ALREADY politically active.  If democracy is under
threat (as many of us believe) the people to "convert" are
those with no opinion, who simply don't care!  (Even if the
majority turn out to favor the "other guy", at least it
would genuinely BE "the will of the people", if everyone
could be motivated to eudcate themselves on the issues and
VOTE.)
Pat - 18 Apr 2007 21:36 GMT
| The trouble with posting to political newsgroups (aside from
| the flames and profanity) is that you're preaching to those
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
| could be motivated to eudcate themselves on the issues and
| VOTE.)

Our REPUBLIC is what's under threat today. A Republic is governed by the
rule of law, the highest law of the land being the Constitution. Democracy
is rule by majority, even when it goes against the supreme law of the land.

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the
REPUBLIC for which it stands...." Does that ring any bells????
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Apr 2007 21:15 GMT
> | I used to try to be a-political, too - until I saw what
> | voter apathy and reluctance to "make waves" was leading us
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> it's no longer enough to educate yourself on the issues and go out and vote
> for the best candidates.

You get no argument from me about that!  (I've not been in
Arizona for an election, yet, but California refused to USE
the electronic machines unless forced to - people could vote
early, using them if they chose, but the general election
last November still used paper ballots marked in ink.)  Of
course, if people weren't already suspicious of them, the
fact that the guy who manufactures them promised to deliver
his state's vote to Bush (and DID) would be plenty of cause
for uneasiness!
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:13 GMT
> | I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a
> | couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> becoming so tyrannical that non talking about the situation is a virtual
> guarantee that their grip on our throats will get increasingly tighter?

Good point!  (You and I may not agree on a lot of political
things, but the freedom to DISCUSS them openly should be
precious to ALL of us!)
Shiral - 18 Apr 2007 17:43 GMT
On Apr 17, 10:13 am, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > | I have a very dear friend that I absolutely had to get blunt with a
> > | couple of weeks ago. I tried to hide
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> - Show quoted text -

I can agree with that, too. SHerry, if you felt jumped on by me, I
apologize. That was not my intention.

For those of you who are glad you live next door to armed neighbors,
I'll just leave you with my perspective, here. Last night, the
neighbors in the apartment above mine started another marital quarrel.
This is not, alas, an unusual occurrence.  The woman of the couple
always sounds extremely angry and on the verge of truly losing all
self control. She doesn't just shout, she snarls, and often uses four-
letter words. Unfortunately these arguments often happen after ten or
eleven p.m. last night. (I can't understand why her husband isn't long
gone, by now. It can't be pleasant living with her.)

Anyhow, she started up again late last night. Not surprisingly, her
next door neighbor pounded on her bedroom wall in protest as it was
after eleven p.m. on a weeknight. I was considering pounding on my
ceiling as well.  This woman started really yelling at the neighbor as
well as her husband, screeching  very vulgar language.  Frankly, I'm
thankful she wasn't armed, and also that I had refrained from thumping
on my ceiling. I would not care to have that kind of abuse directed at
me, ever by anyone. As unpleasant as it was to hear though, I'd far
rather have listened to that than to gunshots.

However much I wish my upstairs neighbor would move away, I do not
wish her any harm.  She is not the first obnoxious neighbor I've had
in this place (Although most of the people here are pleasant and
normal).   It's not fun ever having boorish neighbors. But while
they're bad enough unarmed, I REALLY wouldn't want to live  near this
woman if she had a gun. I remember the obnoxious neighbors, and I was
delighted when the last memorably obnoxious guy(Who played his TV very
loud late at night and periodically screamed at his girlfriend) was
finally evicted after numerous neighbors complained about him to the
Resident Manager and after a visit from the police at three a.m when
he started beating his girlfriend in the middle of the night. But his
presence here was ONLY a source of irritation. No matter where one
lives, one runs the risk of  being around annoying people  But it did
not end in tragedy, and he left without injuring anyone ELSE.

Think about that one, for a while.

Melissa
Sherry - 18 Apr 2007 18:45 GMT
> On Apr 17, 10:13 am, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
>
[quoted text clipped - 59 lines]
>
> Melissa

Now I'm really bumfuzzled. Just yesterday, you wrote, to me:
"Ah, excuse me, but take another look at the subject line of this
thread?
I happen to disagree with you profoundly, but I agree with Mark's
request to discontinue political discussions in a cat newsgroup."

And today you author a posting about gun control, one of the most
volatile, and yes,
"political" discussions. Far more "political" by definition than
anything I ever posted in this thread.
(and what I did post, was far LESS political than what half a dozen
other posters wrote--yet you seemed
to have no problem with that)

It's not whether or not politics should be a taboo subject. It's the
hypocrisy that has me
absolutely shaking my head in disbelief.

Sherry
Matthew - 17 Apr 2007 03:30 GMT
>> <Mark-Edwa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >news:13284csjr2gkb2@news.supernews.com...
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> appreciate honesty.
> Sherry

Oh come on sherry lets talk about that I could get a couple good licks in
there

Rationality just took back over Sorry momentary Playboy losses of thought
there.  I feel the same way about Paris Hilton  no one gives a flying F@ck
about the party trash girl I had to tell a friend of mind that is love with
her.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:22 GMT
>>Real friends usually do
>>appreciate honesty.
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> about the party trash girl I had to tell a friend of mind that is love with
> her.

Out of curiosity, has he ever MET her?  You can't be "in
love" with someone you don't even know!  ("Infatuated" maybe
- with an idea, not a person - but love needs time and
propinquity in order to grow.)
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 03:15 GMT
> So please cease and desist.
>
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> --
> Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request

Well, yeah, but some people can discuss politics rationally and some
can't. I understand
the rationale that politics has no business on a cat usenet group,
even though personally
it doesn't bother me. At least I can quit reading if it does. When
you get buttonholed by someone
IRL it's still socially unacceptable to stick your fingers in your
ears.
The MF word DOES bother me, intensely. I could go the rest of my life
and never
see that word in print and be quite happy about it.
We all have our own little different quirks that bug us.

Sherry
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2007 07:09 GMT
>> So please cease and desist.
>>
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> IRL it's still socially unacceptable to stick your fingers in your
> ears.

I personally don't care if it's socially unacceptable.  I'd gladly stick my
fingers in my ears to get the message across that I don't want to hear it!
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:31 GMT
>>>So please cease and desist.
>>>
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> I personally don't care if it's socially unacceptable.  I'd gladly stick my
> fingers in my ears to get the message across that I don't want to hear it!

Don't you think that's likely to appear rather ridiculous,
if you're older than ten or so?  (Easier to simply avoid the
offending person, I should think - and easier still when all
you need do is ignore newsgroup posts by that person,
instead of replying to them.)
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2007 19:53 GMT
>>>> So please cease and desist.
>>>>
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> you need do is ignore newsgroup posts by that person,
> instead of replying to them.)

Not if you're stuck in a captive audience.  This example isn't about
politics, but I used to sit next to a co-worker who would go on and on about
Jesus this and Jesus that.  Better for me to plug my ears to get my message
across than to tell her to shut the F*** up!
Sherry - 17 Apr 2007 19:56 GMT
> >>>> So please cease and desist.
>
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> Jesus this and Jesus that. Better for me to plug my ears to get my message
> across than to tell her to shut the F*** up!- Hide quoted text -

Finally! Someone "gets it"!!
I don't mean plugging your ears, but the way it feels to be a captive
audience.
(When I was working, I found a Walkman really useful for this.
Sometimes I
just had the earplugs in, and it wasn't even turned on!!)

Sherry
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2007 21:00 GMT
>>>>> the rationale that politics has no business on a cat usenet group,
>>>>> even though personally
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> Sometimes I
> just had the earplugs in, and it wasn't even turned on!!)

Unfortunately I couldn't wear a walkman.  I was doing tech support and had
to wear a headset and answer the phone.  But boy, did I want to smack her
into the next department!  Someone in the department mentioned she had been
prescribed Paxil and this woman said, "Jesus is my Paxil."  Oh give me an
f'n break!

Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Apr 2007 21:20 GMT
>>>>>So please cease and desist.
>>>>>
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> Jesus this and Jesus that.  Better for me to plug my ears to get my message
> across than to tell her to shut the F*** up!

I'm afraid I'd be more likely to say (laughing
incredulously) "You can't really BELIEVE that!"  (Might make
me an enemy for life, but I guarantee I'd not be bored by
those particular remarks again!)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 18:11 GMT
>>So please cease and desist.
>>
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> see that word in print and be quite happy about it.
> We all have our own little different quirks that bug us.

Of course, and SFAIK, no one is being compelled to
participate in ANY discussions - whether they are on- or
off-topic!  One of the nicest things about this newsgroup,
IMO, is the fact that we DO discuss so many things that are
only marginally cat-related.  Illnesses and personal
tragedies (our own and those of our friends), politics -
even religion on occasion.  That's what "freedom of speech"
is all about, and why we should all do our best to defeat
government and corporate attempts to limit the freedom of
the Internet.  More than any other newsgroup I've
encountered, this one seems to be a group of friends who
feel free to discuss various topics, and express our
opinions.  You encounter very few "flames" here, and most of
those are perpetrated by trolls, not regular posters.
(There are almost NO names in my "kill-file" for this group,
because almost everyone here has worthwhile things to say,
even if I don't always agree with them.)
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2007 04:12 GMT
>So please cease and desist.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Hugs and Purrs,
>Mark

I love politics.  Just not in my ng.  Come on people, peace, love and
kitties.  And as for those poor people at VT, why don't we concentrate
on sending them purrs?

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

Make Levees, Not War
Tanada - 17 Apr 2007 16:45 GMT
> So please cease and desist.
>
> Thank you.

Thank YOU.  I'd love to have a smaller killfile.

Pam S.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2007 17:56 GMT
> So please cease and desist.

There's some reason you can't just scroll past any threads
you consider "political"?  (Instead of starting another one,
just to express your disdain for them?)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Apr 2007 21:12 GMT
> So please cease and desist.

Mark, with all due respect, weren't you the person who started the gun
control discussion, with your post about the VT shootings? It seems unfair
to spark a controveral discussion and then, when it gets underway, ask
people to stop. (And why not just stop reading it, if you're sick of it?)

Joyce
 
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