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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / April 2007Bite wounds (pic)
http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg http://i11.tinypic.com/40m1h0z.jpg She loves to go outside and fight, what can I do? She's very tough with an amazing pain threshold. Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it constantly. > She loves to go outside and fight, what can I do? Keep her in, you a.s. Satisfy your freakish need for violence yourself and leave your cat out of it. >http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it >constantly. Ow! Do girls fight that much? At least it doesn't look infected - it looks like she was bitten by a vampire. Is this girl your girlfriend's cat? >> http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > looks like she was bitten by a vampire. Is this girl your > girlfriend's cat? :) > http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it > constantly. Wrong! She doesn't love to go outside and FIGHT. She enjoys outside, I'm sure she'd be just as happy to pass on the fighting part TYVM. Build her an enclosure where she can safely get some air or be the adult and keep her inside for her own good. You do realize, I hope, that she can pick up feline AIDS and Leukemia while fighting. If you continue to permit her to engage in this dangerous behavior she will end up with an abscess eventually. An abscess can require an overnight at least at the vet after the surgery required to drain and clean them out. A lot of wear and tear on the cat as well as your wallet that is totally avoidable. Next question: Is she spayed? W In rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Wendy <wendypart@nospam.com> wrote: [snip] Why did the OP have to crosspost? I don't want to read this drivel. We don't engage in the inside/outside debate on RPCA. Off to kill the thread... Joyce > In rec.pets.cats.anecdotes Wendy <wendypart@nospam.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Off to kill the thread... Ask Adrian you simple-minded bitch. Meanwhile, doesn't your killfile work unless you announce you're going to use it? > Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it > constantly. Purrs that she heals fast. Just wanted to point out that this is not 'our' Adrian, with Snoopy and Baggy. This is someone else.  SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://s120.photobucket.com/albums/o185/frankiennikki/ http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it > constantly. You can do more for the health of your cat by one simple act... keeping them indoors. I know a lot of people will debate that; however, your cat is exposed to a lot of dangers outside. If you want to minimize that keep her inside. > You can do more for the health of your cat by one simple act... keeping > them indoors. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > If you want to minimize that keep her inside. At least Adrian took her to the vet, a lot of Gomers don't. We built a 12' X 16' X 9' enclosure for our cats as we didn't want them to be endangered by anyone. One of our neighbors tried to claim that our cats were putting scratches on their car. When I pointed out to them that we kept our cats indoors, they said that the cats COULD have come outside and did the scratches. I pointed out the large population of strays that were in the neighborhood at the time and was told that I was trying to pass the buck. For sanity's sake an enclosure was planned and built within a month. Our first year here, we found homes for at least 12 cats that had been roaming around the area. There are still a few that come around, but they all look like they have homes. We don't encourage them, and our owners have their own outside playroom, so they don't have to worry as much about getting attacked or close to those with diseases. Funny note. We're in a suburb of a small city. Our housing area is fenced in around all sides with other housing areas abutting the fences. We live on the edge of the neighborhood, with one of the border fences as part of our back yard. We came home once and found that someone had gone into the cat enclosure and tried to break into our house using the cat entrance to our bedroom window. Glad the dumb fool didn't get stuck in there. The cats were pretty freaked out by the ordeal, except QC. We suspect that our big baby probably visited the would be burglar and let him know that she loved him. Pam S. >> http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > If you want to minimize that keep her inside. Your human children are probably safer, too, if kept indoors and not allowed to play with other children. That does NOT mean it's the optimum way of raising them. Cats have a way of sorting things out among themselves, and establishing a neighborhood "pecking order". Aside from in-house disagreements (which you'll have occasionally anyway, if you have more than one cat), spayed female cats will only fight to defend their territory. Once established, you'll probably see no more fights. I don't mean to open the same old controversy yet again, but please realize there are two (perfectly valid) schools of thought about indoor vs. outdoor. Only you know the circumstances where you live, and must decide for yourself which is best for your feline family. Just don't preach to the rest of us, as though the only people who care about their cats are the ones who force them to be indoor only! >>> http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > preach to the rest of us, as though the only people who care about their > cats are the ones who force them to be indoor only! We are talking about cats, not kids. >>>> http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg >>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > We are talking about cats, not kids. Some of us regard both the same, except that unlike children, the cats don't grow up and leave home. (From many observations posted to these newsgroups, cats on their own generally exhibit more common sense than kids, too!) >>> http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > and not allowed to play with other children. That does NOT > mean it's the optimum way of raising them. Yeah yeah, blah blah blah. Cats are not CHILDREN. They don't know to look both ways and hold mommy's hand when crossing the street. You're all for cats just hanging out outside, regardless of the dangers, because they are cats. Screw it if they get hurt or killed that way, right? They're just being cats, right? I told you last week about a cat I saw laying dead by the side of the road, hit by a car, but you still insist they should run loose. Sometimes you make no sense whatsoever. Jill Why is this miserable saga being cross-posted to RPCH+B? Our group is such a happy little place and it's a shame to see it invaded by rancorous nitwits from RPCA. I think I'm gonna file a few abuse reports and cry myself to sleep. Charlie >>>> http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg >>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Jill >>Your human children are probably safer, too, if kept indoors >>and not allowed to play with other children. That does NOT >>mean it's the optimum way of raising them. > > Yeah yeah, blah blah blah. Cats are not CHILDREN. They don't know to look > both ways and hold mommy's hand when crossing the street. From what I've observed, cats don't NEED to "hold mommy's hand when crossing the street". It's true they CAN be run over (often by motorists who deliberately accelerate to hit them), but unless there is a great deal of heavy traffic, cats are generally more cautious than children are about such things. > You're all for cats just hanging out outside, regardless of the dangers, > because they are cats. Not exactly - mine have always been given the choice, if I lived where they could be allowed out. I even had one who CHOSE to be indoor only, and freaked out if she found herself outside for any reason. > Screw it if they get hurt or killed that way, right? > They're just being cats, right? I told you last week about a cat I saw > laying dead by the side of the road, hit by a car, but you still insist they > should run loose. I have also said it depends upon the individual circumstances, and each of us must judge those for our own furry families. Yes, cats get run over - so do dogs, squirrels, rabbits, skunks, deer, and the occasional human. I am one who values quality of life over quantity, so when I live in comparatively "safe" areas where they may hunt and play in gardens, my cats are allowed to CHOOSE their lifestyles. (After all, life is a fatal disease - no living thing escapes it alive.) > Sometimes you make no sense whatsoever. Meaning you disagree, and will admit of no possible argument that supports any viewpoint but your own. (You and that moron in the White House appear to have that trait in common!) > >>>http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - Show quoted text - erm... i can't be bothered to argue with anyone about the indoors vs outdoors thing cos it si late BUT i would like to say that all of my cats have had access to the great outdoors, only lost one on the road in 20 odd years of being owned by cats (which we decided in hindsight was inevitable at that time since we lived on what was for a short time a bus route due to a temporary detour by the bus company in its routes), and the rest have lived to ripe old ages and died of other things related to being ancient and not from disease caught from going outside. it may be very different in the USA than it is in the UK but i would say the majority of people in the UK let their animals out into their gardens, few build enclosures, as we dontl really see the need to. Both my current cats can go outside when the door is open, although right now they don't seem to want to as there are no comfy sofas or radiator hammocks outside so they don;t see the point of it really. But when summer comes i am sure they will both be out layign onthe back lawn sunning themselves or snoozing under a bush somewhere and i will of course let them without worry. They are both very old, jessie is about 17 we think, and not likely to stray much further than next doors garden and up aback alleyway, neither go very far at all. Small issue with a large white and tabby tom cat who visits from a few houses further up the road but jessie see him off with a hiss and I see him off too with a mug of water when I see him, other than that I see no reason to curtail their enjoyment of the great outdoors intheir twilight years, why would I? as we have no cat flap they can only go out when soemone is in the house and so there is always someone present in case of any emergency such as a fight or what not, but there has nto been so far and I doubt there will be given the age and temperament of the 2 cats i have living with me. the decision to let your cats outdoors is to me a natural one to make, they love going outside to patrol their territory (well jessie does anyway) and I woudl feel as though i were depriving them of a natural instinct if I were to restrict their movements outside and keep them in all the time. you must remember that not all places are fraught with dangers outside, some of us live in quiet little places in the home counties of merrie england where nothing terribly dangerous really happens. what happened to sheelaghs cat ringo was very unusual, very rare indeed as there is not the same gun culture here as inthe states and people are not allowed most forms of gun without a licence of some sort, very hard to get. you may want to slate me for it but i will continue to let my cats outside as i believe that they gain a great deal from the few times they bother to shift themselves off the sofa and venture outside and this far outweighs the miniscule risk there is in my area of them coming to any harm bookie > > >>>http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > - Show quoted text - WHOOOO HOOOO Cambridge won the Boat Race... I take it you were glued to the Box, same as I was ...?? S;o) > > > >>>http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] > > - Show quoted text - yes, sad aren't I? last year I put £10 on one of the crews sinking (or being swamped os bad they had to pull out of the race) didn't know that bloody oxford had a pump fitted to their boat, dirty cheating oxford scum. when i was a student, and in the couple of years after i graduated, i used to make the trip to watch fromthe bank somewhere, not actually get to see anything except the banks of people's head and then get royally drunk and try to catch the last train back to cambridge from kings cross. Now i am old and i actually want to see the whole race and the technical aspects of the rowing (since I am a sad old rower too) and so i always watch it on the telly now. Also my bladder will not hodl up to all the waiting in queues for the toilets that goes with watching it from the bank inthe 90s when i was an undergraduate it was fairly dull affair with cambridge always winning by a fairly hefty margin, but the last few years have produced some awesome races, such as seb mayer blowing up when cambridge were in the lead by quite a way at barnes bridge and oxford storming through to win, and some others which were close races right until the last. I don't know what it all looks like to people who don't row or who have not been to either uni , or who haven't rowed for oxford or cambridge, but since i have done all the above I am deeply interested inthe result and how it goes. Also i can understand the pain of the race and the exertion to get down the course, and how it feels to do so many months of training for one race and see it all go to waste; I lost my boat race just like the oxford boys did on saturday :-( . to watch it on tv and see the pain on their faces in awesome as I can understand how much it is hurting them and how much their legs, backs, whole bodies are screaming "stop! pain! stop! this hurts!!!!" but how pride makes them push that much harder despite the fact their lungs feel as though they are about to explode and they feel as though they cannot take another breath. Somehow you just keep going through the pain. anyway, yes i am pleased that cambridge won for personal reasons, and pleased that it was a good race and a real spectacle and not a walkover so hopefully interest inthe event will keep going.. > http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it > constantly. I am amazed that you still have a pet cat in all honesty. It somehow doesn't ring true IMHO. If any vet that I know saw that, they would have at the very least have provided a course of antibiotics to ensure that the wound healed without a bacterial infection as well as pain meds, because abscess's are extremely painful as you well know. I suspect that the abscess has burst on it's own through the poor cat agitating it through licking and nibbling at it because of the pain it is causing. Only one of my cats has ever had an abscess like that one & I can assure you that my vet didn't wish me well and throw me out the door with a nod of amazement..!! Get your poor cat back to the vets surgery asap & make sure that you get that seen to, then don't allow her out again..Because to my detriment, I know exactly what happens when you allow your cat to roam free. This time you were lucky. Next time, I wonder if her pain threshold will tolerate a few BB gun pellets through the face and leg? Mine certainly didn't.. Forgive me if I sound harsh, but I am not telling you this for the sake of it. I recently nearly lost my cat to both BB pellets and an abbess on the face that resulted because of those pellets. Build her a nice outdoor pen, & she will get used to it, HONESTLY- & will still allow her to go out and catch some rays, but in safety...Imagine the pain you would feel if that bite was on your back? You also need to think about rabies, and all other manner of possibilities that she might have been infected with too. Do yourself a favour, & her one too, PLEASE? THANK YOU S;o) > http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it > constantly. On second thoughts.. It is wrong of me to doubt your integrity, & I apologize wholeheartedly too. If you took your cat to see a vet and he patted you on the back and sent you home, I would get yourself a second opinion, because I honestly can't believe that any self respecting vet would send you away with no treatment...I am shocked!! Whilst I accept that she is keeping it clean, It does sound rather neglectful of them not to at least give you antibiotics, pain meds & possibly bloods too, to ensure that she didn't pick up any nasty in that wound... It is a deep wound & who knows what bit her? Let us know how you got on please? S;o) > If you took your cat to see a vet and he patted you on the back and > sent you home, I would get yourself a second opinion, because I > honestly can't believe that any self respecting vet would send you > away with no treatment...I am shocked!! Of course he gave me antibiotics (in fact he gave her a shot), but he didnt have to drain the wound cause the cat took care of that by herself >> If you took your cat to see a vet and he patted you on the back and >> sent you home, I would get yourself a second opinion, because I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Of course he gave me antibiotics (in fact he gave her a shot), but he > didnt have to drain the wound cause the cat took care of that by herself Probably she licked it because it hurt so much, you idiot. Take your cat to a shelter so that someone sensible might adopt her. > > If you took your cat to see a vet and he patted you on the back and > > sent you home, I would get yourself a second opinion, because I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Of course he gave me antibiotics (in fact he gave her a shot), but he > didnt have to drain the wound cause the cat took care of that by herself Oh Good;o) I am so pleased to hear that & thank you so much for letting ,me know too. I appreciate that no end. If I explain myself as I should have done in the first instance, you will understand my concern. I recently had a cat with Pyometra (puss filled womb!). Obviously I couldn't see this, but I did notice that she was looking miserable so I took her just to be on the safe side. I was told to bring her back the next morning, which I did of course. To cut a very long miserable story short, the vet didn't treat her then took nearly 48 hours off work for personal reasons, & had my cat locked in her surgery & I wasn't able to access her or remove her from the premises either. She wasn't fed or watered for over 36 hours, & when the vet returned to work She was @ deaths door. The vet apologized of course, then proceeded to tell me that she wanted to operate on her immediately, but that the prognosis wasn't very optimistic about the prognosis or outcome. (surprise surprise?!!) Fortunately, for both Lilly & ourselves, she did get through it, but no thanks to the vet who left her in that condition...The moment that it was possible for us to remove her, we did & took her to a recommended vet a few miles further away, but one that we felt we could trust. More recently, we also had one of our males shot by a BB gun, by a pair of young youths, who callously shot him @ near point blank range. He was a stray that moved in with us last Xmas. I don't normally allow my cats to stray, but on this particular day, I let him out into the back garden, & he wandered off to the meadow behind our house where I take them all on reins.... We noticed him missing @ meal time, & when we went looking for him, we found him in the meadow on his side, panting for breath. He had been shot & was in a very bad way. He spent over a week @ the vets surgery & developed an infection in the facial wound... All of this happend to Ringo because I allowed him to wonder off... In the past, I used to allow all of our cats the freedom they wanted, but now that I have been through a vet that let me & the cat down terribly, & a cat that was shot for no reason other than kids getting a kick out of it...I feel differently... Consequently I worry terribly when I hear stories where a vet doesn't seem to have attended their patient, or cats that have become victims of other predators or pure wickedness, I see bright red... I apologize in full for being so quick to judge, & also without asking the particulars of the case, before I put both feet in my mouth & let rip @ full pelt. I am v.sorry indeed... I'm delighted to hear that she did get the attention that she needed, & sorry that I jumped to conclusion. I understand your reasons for allowing her to roam where she wants to & respect your wishes.. & it is not for me to tell you what is best for her either. However, I still would ask you to consider building her a run, our surrounding your garden so that no one else or any other predator can ever get to her again. Even now, I feel odd advising you to do this, because I used to allow mine where they wished to go too.. But after recent experiences, I have reconsidered, not least because of the vet bills involved, & the reality of loosing them both came so near to actually happening, that I was forced to reconsider my options. I truely am sorry if I sounded like an overbearing old Hag... It certainly wasn't my intention. It was the sight of the wound that set me off & lack of information, that I failed to ask for. Apologize and soothing purrs for the Bruiser cruiser on your block, lol;o) S;o) > > > If you took your cat to see a vet and he patted you on the back and > > > sent you home, I would get yourself a second opinion, because I [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > lol;o) > S;o) have you made a report to the royal college of vet surgeons yet about that joker who nearly killed lilly yet? how is that coming along or have you put it on a back burner with all the stress over ringo? i think that vet needs to be struck off personally , i dontl care how much of a good friend to you she is, she is crap and a danger to animals bookie > > > > If you took your cat to see a vet and he patted you on the back and > > > > sent you home, I would get yourself a second opinion, because I [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > have you made a report to the royal college of vet surgeons yet about > that joker who nearly killed lilly yet? how is that coming along or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > much of a good friend to you she is, she is crap and a danger to > animals Yes I did put it to the back of my mind until Ringo came home, However, I made an appointment last week for this Wednesday. So I will have more news on Wednesday evening as to whether he feels we have a case or, not. ( Personally, I can't see us not having one, because I have a copy of all of Lilly's care sheets whilst she was in their care...) I am determined that no one else should have to go through what Lilly did ever again. To this day I still find it incredible that they left here there on her Tod for nearly 2 days without treatment, then told me that she was near death. She wasn't even contactable- ignoring her mobile phone. Then having the gall to charge me for overnight care, when there was none really was the final straw...!! Since this all happened, my daughter has got to know the nurse who works for the surgery & we have since found out that she regularly leaves post operation patients overnight with no care. It is routine to tell customers that their pet didn't make it the following morning & the favourite excuse is a fit ( Kt works in our local Pub & got her chatting after a few gin & tonics..amazing how a few loosen the tongue) I have no intention of letting this go until I see her struck off.. I have never been the sort of person that causes a fuss about something, especially where somewhere I knew that I had to face them again, but that last incident was enough to force me over my inhibitions. SOD HER!! No Animal Should Have To Suffer That;o( S;o) <snip> > Yes I did put it to the back of my mind until Ringo came home, > However, I made an appointment last week for this Wednesday. So I will [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > No Animal Should Have To Suffer That;o( > S;o) I wish you every success in getting her struck off. It's unbelievable that anyone could be so lacking in care, in a so called proffesional it's criminal. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > > > > > If you took your cat to see a vet and he patted you on the back and > > > > > sent you home, I would get yourself a second opinion, because I [quoted text clipped - 132 lines] > > - Show quoted text - i am keeping everything crossed that you are successful, that admission by the nurse is outrageous, people trust her and the vet with the care of their beloved animals and to leave them post op with no care and just bugger off home is unacceptable. Then to claim that if the animal doesn't make it the next day that it was a fit and not admit that the animal was left to suffer and die when it could have been saved and lived is incredible. They are sooooooo breaking the codes of conduct of the RCVS with failing to provide adequate post op care, this is just not on and completely wrong on so many levels. this vet doesnt' just need to be struck off, she needs to be strung up, absolutely f.cking outrageous. you must have a case against her, are you going to see someone at the RCVS? bookie > > > > > > If you took your cat to see a vet and he patted you on the back and > > > > > > sent you home, I would get yourself a second opinion, because I [quoted text clipped - 152 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Two quickies. I was delighted to see Cambridge win on Saturday too:o) Yes, I have written a letter to to the RCVS, but haven't posted it as yet.... I will email you a copy of my letter to see if you have any thoughts or recommendations to add to it before I send it tomorrow afternoon as long as you don't mind of course? I will also send you all of the details that are relevant & other bits to to compare with the letter I have composed to send to them too, so that you might make some changes/amend if you feel that they are relevant to the case. Kids on the Pc for far too long during the Easter hols ( which they remind is a little rich given the time I devote to it- they could have a point there, but I'm not going to admit to it, lol... S;o) > http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > > http://i11.tinypic.com/40m1h0z.jpg > > She loves to go outside and fight, what can I do? She's very tough with > an amazing pain threshold. She probably does love to go outside but it is very possible that she is being forced to fight. It might be a good idea to build her an enclosure or, failing that, keep her inside. If there are cats, or even A cat, in the neighborhood who attack her, she might need to be kept in. Catfights can lead to serious injury or death and also can spread disease. The "indoor-only" fascists on this ng will get on your case and I hate to side with them. However, I favor letting cats outdoors only in very safe environments and yours is not. Glad your vet gave you antibiotics for her and good luck to you and her, whatever you decide. Will in New Haven -- "Never try to outstubborn a cat." - Robert Heinlein "I am not stubborn, Mr. Heinlein, I am just in charge." - Feather > Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it > constantly. >> http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Will in New Haven Eliminating cross posting here I'm not an indoor only fanatic. But I DO think one has to judge the environment for the cat. This cat is obviously being fought by other cats or dogs. If those photos are to be believed it was severely bitten and could well have been killed. Is that a good thing? I know you don't think so, Will. Enclosures let cats enjoy the OUT while not being attacked or hit by cars. I'm all for those, yes indeed. I'm not saying never let a cat see the outdoors, fer cryin' out loud. Just use caution if you let them out. www.kittywalk.com or some other enclosure so they are kept out of harms way. If you care about them, you don't just let them run all willy nilly. My 2 cents. Jill > >>http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > other enclosure so they are kept out of harms way. If you care about them, > you don't just let them run all willy nilly. My 2 cents. I agree with you and that is pretty much what I said. There have been a couple of people here who tried to convince the OP of the error of her or his ways by being insulting and boorish. They know who they are or they are completely obtuse. Putting you among them never entered my mind. I have been thinking about an enclosure for ours but neither Micki's four nor my Mom's WooToo have ever been OUT and they don't seem to miss it. Bear tells them about the OUT, I am sure. Will in New Haven -- "The difference between food and beer is that beer has some food value, while food has no beer value" - Linda the waitress > Jill >>>> http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg >> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Will in New Haven Thanks. When I had a dog (Sampson, RB 1999) he was never out without being on a leash unless I had a fenced back yard. He wasn't a big dog, in fact he weighed less than my cat does (LOL) but if he had been and I was of the mind to just let him run because he was "supposed to" and he'd bitten someone or someone's pet, they'd have put him down for it. At least in the U.S. As it was, towards the end of his life he was very mean and even on a leash when kids tried to run up and say "Ooooh, it's a puppy!" I'd say NO, he's not a puppy and he will bite so stay back. It was the kids who didn't listen. I can't tell you how often I had to scoop him up and take him back inside before he did his business. Poor doggy. But for that very reason I didn't let him run loose. He'd have bitten any kid who ran up and said, "Oooh, a puppy!" Nope, not a puppy. And not a friendly dog at the end of his life, either. Jill On 8 Apr, 18:20, "Will in New Haven" <bill.re...@taylorandfrancis.com> wrote: > >http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - i would like to point out that my neighbourhood is safe for cats, boringly so, my 2 princesses stay indoors as there is more danger and excitement inside to keep them amused I think, hence I have no worries about letting them go out. bookie > http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it > constantly. Many years ago, we lost our Ginger (20 lbs Tom) to an abscess that refused to heal -- an overwhelming infection. MLB > http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Doc said she'll be OK, apparently she drained the wound by cleaning it > constantly. OUCH! I say, OUCH!! > http://i12.tinypic.com/48f55cz.jpg > > http://i11.tinypic.com/40m1h0z.jpg > > She loves to go outside and fight, what can I do? Don't let her go outside. Any other questions....? IBen Getiner >> She loves to go outside and fight, what can I do? Chase likes to eat plastic. I still don't let him. When I got Jay Jay, he was a previously outdoor cat (picked up as a stray). He pawed and cried at every door and window. It was horrible. I felt so bad for him, but I was not going to let him out. After a week, he quit. Indoor life is pretty plushy. He has been her over 2 years now, and he hasn't shown any interest in the doors since that first week. And while he enjoys watching the birds out the window, he does not cry or paw at the windows anymore. He is a very happy (and healthy) cat. > >> She loves to go outside and fight, what can I do? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > window, he does not cry or paw at the windows anymore. He is a very > happy (and healthy) cat. There you go. Good for you! We tried that with a very old female. It didn't work so good. She bad-azzed our little inside male all over the place until we had to let her back out. She was much happier, and stayed that way until she died of old age a few years later. She was just too old. You sounded like you had much better luck. Great! IBen Getiner >>> She loves to go outside and fight, what can I do? > > Chase likes to eat plastic. I still don't let him. What this thread is, is a troll. Adrian knows exactly how many of us feel about allowing cats to roam, and could not be satisfied with telling us about the bite, which has likely infected his cat with sundry diseased. He had to PHOTOGRAPH the bite. This, not calling an a.shole an a.shole, is what trolling is all about. Posting something just to get a reaction. You're an a.shole, Adrian. The next time you look up and see your cat looking at you, you should see a little cartoon bubble over her head that says "a.shole." She knows it. We know it. Just so you know it. > >>> She loves to go outside and fight, what can I do? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Just so you know it. Apology retracted then. Idiot!!! Sheelagh |
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