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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / March 2007Question re: "cuts and gravy"
All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? Joyce anything in gravy that was chicken or beef is from my understanding and also why take the chance it all went into the garbage > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? > > Joyce > anything in gravy that was chicken or beef is from my understanding and > also why take the chance it all went into the garbage<jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > - Show quoted text - And wouldn't you know that my girl's particularly LOVE the cuts in gravy style food? Poor dears are going to be disappointed that I don't have any for them until all the kinks get worked out. I've been feeding my cats Science Diet for years now, without a qualm, and I'm thankful that I didn't buy any of the tainted foods. I just hope the cat food companies are ALL going to be a lot more vigilant about their ingredients after this mess to keep it from ever happening again. Melissa > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? > > Joyce It's my understanding that it's only in the 'cuts and gravy' style of pet food as the wheat gluten that was tainted was used as a starch to thicken the gravy (remember making home-made gravy? Mom would always add flour to thicken it). But who know where else that wheat was used - any human gravy? I know that Hormel (I think, maybe some other brand?) sells jars of gravy (complete with lumps so that they can call it "home-style").... I don't want to start a panic..... but maybe they should start tracking *where* this wheat came from and *who* bought it.... > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message >> All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and >> gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it >> refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean >> the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? > It's my understanding that it's only in the 'cuts and gravy' style of pet > food as the wheat gluten that was tainted was used as a starch to thicken > the gravy (remember making home-made gravy? Mom would always add flour to > thicken it). OK, but what *is* "cuts and gravy"? That was my question. Does it mean solid chunks of meat in gravy? Or can it be pate-style (mush), which can also be in gravy? Joyce > > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joyce Maybe this will help. If I give Molly canned food of the "cuts and gravy" type she will lick up the gravy and lick the gravy off the chunks. I can't bring myself to describe those chunks as meat. If the gravy can be licked up leaving chunks, that is cuts and gravy. Jo > > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joyce I believe it's the chunks-o-meat in gravy. Similar to a stew. The pate may have a 'gravy' but I don't think it has to be thickened. We had on one of our shelves some cans of one of the recalled brands! It was *not* in the recalled batches, but since we rarely feed canned (only a few like it, and half of those that do get the runny-poo when they do eat it), we pitched them anyway. Some of the crew don't like canned at all, some don't like the cuts-n-gravy style as the meat is rubber (I wouldn't like that either) and some will eat anything that comes out of a can - even peaches! Well, they'll taste it anyway, and then decide it's not to their liking :D > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? Gravy catfood is the commonest kind of catfood to contain gluten, but it does occur in pate-style foods as well. You just have to read the label - if "wheat" or "cereals" is listed as an ingredient, assume it contains gluten. Don't assume you can guess by physical appearance or texture. ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 > > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joyce My understanding (but just basing this on news report I have read) is that it does not involve the pate type. It is the type that has "pieces" of meat in gravy, and it can be either canned or foil-packed. I think you should also avoid anything right now that shows wheat gluten as one of the ingredients. The gluten, itself, is not the problem, but the gluten in the recalled products was contaminated. Cats don't need gluten, so why take any risks? (I suspect that the gluten was used to thicken the gravy, but it *is* used in some non-gravy cat food.) MaryL > > <jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > solid chunks of meat in gravy? Or can it be pate-style (mush), which can > also be in gravy? Unless it specifically MENTIONS "gravy" on the label, I think it's considered safe. The pate stuff sometimes has a little semi-jelled juice in the can, but I think only the actual "gravy" uses wheat. > Joyce > Unless it specifically MENTIONS "gravy" on the label, I > think it's considered safe. The pate stuff sometimes has a > little semi-jelled juice in the can, but I think only the > actual "gravy" uses wheat. Ah yes, the semi-jelled juice. That's what's in the "turkey and giblets" glop that my cats like. Joyce On Mar 24, 4:22 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? > > Joyce I thought it meant the chunks/gravy that's like, well....separate "chunks" of meat with a gravy base. Like you'd put it on toast if it was SOS type canned meat. Not the mush-kind. BTW, some of those "chunks&gravy" kinds don't look like chunks of meat at all. They're just little squares of...something. I've tried to keep up with the latest developments on this deal...I got an e-mail from Petsmart saying I had purchased some of the tainted food. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out what, and when. Then I got another e-mail saying, Sorry! Our mistake, you did NOT purchase any of it. So far, Purina-products have been exempt to my knowledge. Anybody hear any different yet? (well--except for Iams--I heard it was a Purina product? I didn't know that. We have a Purina mill here, and they give us food for the shelter. Usually Purina One or just Purina Chow, sometimes Pro Plan. Maybe they make Iams at another mill) Sherry Sherry Sherry Iams and Eukanuba are products of Procter & Gamble, which is completely different than Purina. The only Purina product affected was Mighty Dog: http://www.purina.com/Company/Press/2007/MightyDog.aspx I'm not taking any chances, feeding my crew Friskies cat food, which they seem to actually enjoy much more than the Iams they were getting anyway. -- Bev A. >On Mar 24, 4:22 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: >> All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Sherry > Iams and Eukanuba are products of Procter & Gamble, which is > completely different than Purina. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -- Bev A. I feed mine Friskies, which I usually buy at PetSmart for around $0.35 a can. I thought I'd save myself a trip, and buy it at Safeway, last night - until I found it was $0.59 a can there! I haven't bought it at a supermarket here in Arizona before - has it always been that much higher, or are suppliers taking advantage of the recall to jack their prices way up? (PetSmart isn't that much further away, so skyrocketing gasoline prices or not, I guess it's back to PetSmart - but maybe check their prices by phone, first.) >>On Mar 24, 4:22 pm, jXwXeXrXmXoX...@sonic.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> >>Sherry > I feed mine Friskies, which I usually buy at PetSmart for > around $0.35 a can. I thought I'd save myself a trip, and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > skyrocketing gasoline prices or not, I guess it's back to > PetSmart - but maybe check their prices by phone, first.) At Safeway, it depends. Sometimes they have sales, to get rid of extra inventory. With the recall, they probably won't have extra inventory of Friskies for a while, so it will be top price. But I've sometimes gotten Friskies at 4/$1.00 (or 4/$1.00) at Safeway, so once this dies down, that will probably happen again. I don't think there's a Petsmart in my area, so I haven't shopped there. But we have Pet Club, a psuedo "warehouse club" type of place. (A membership is not required to shop there, but they also don't put a lot of effort into display, ie, it looks warehouse-y.) You can get cans of Friskies fairly cheap there. Joyce > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? > > Joyce I think it's the sliced beef/chicken in gravy stuff. You need to check the UPC codes and dates to be sure, though. Jill <--for once *thankful* Persia only eats expensive dry prescription kibble! > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? Just the "non-mush" varieties were affected. Bud > > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? > Just the "non-mush" varieties were affected. Thank you, everyone! I'm once again, relieved, as all I've been feeding them is the mush-style. Joyce > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? I've been assuming it means only those kinds which mention "gravy" on the label. I'm not sure whether or not that includes the "in sauce" flavors or not, but I think it was made pretty clear the pates were okay. > Joyce > All the stories about the tainted dog and cat food refer to "cuts and > gravy" style food. I'm just wondering exactly what this means. Does it > refer only to *solid* chunks of meat in gravy? Or does it also mean > the "pate" type cat food that just looks like mush? Anyone know? > > Joyce My mother in law was feeding her dog the chicken and gravy stuff. We put Buffy down last weekend. I'm thinking it's the solid chunks in gravy. kili |
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