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Pat - 23 Mar 2007 19:19 GMT
March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have determined
that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the tainted pet food that has
killed several animals.

A source close to the investigation tells ABC News that the rodenticide,
which the source says is illegal to use in the United States, was on wheat
that was imported from China and used by Menu Foods in nearly 100 brands of
dog and cat food.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912
jofirey - 24 Mar 2007 00:24 GMT
> March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have determined
> that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the tainted pet food that
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>
> http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2975912

I thought I was keeping up with the news better than that.  When did we
start importing wheat from China?

Jo
Ketzl's Dad - 24 Mar 2007 00:32 GMT
>> March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have determined
>> that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the tainted pet food that
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Jo

Are we still paying US farmers NOT to grow wheat?

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Gandalf - 24 Mar 2007 00:48 GMT
>>> March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have determined
>>> that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the tainted pet food that
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>
>Are we still paying US farmers NOT to grow wheat?

I thought the wheat gluten came from Australia(?)

How can China POSSIBLY be exporting FOOD. To North America?

This doesn't pass the smell test.....
Ketzl's Dad - 24 Mar 2007 00:57 GMT
>>>> March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have determined
>>>> that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the tainted pet food that
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> This doesn't pass the smell test.....

The evening news was pretty clear: it came from China.

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Outsider - 24 Mar 2007 01:08 GMT
>>>>> March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have
>>>>> determined that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> The evening news was pretty clear: it came from China.

make sure you get the whole link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_(food)
Outsider - 24 Mar 2007 01:06 GMT
>>>> March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have
>>>> determined that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> This doesn't pass the smell test.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_gluten_(food)
Jack Campin - bogus address - 24 Mar 2007 01:21 GMT
>>>> the rodenticide, which the source says is illegal to use in the
>>>> United States, was on wheat that was imported from China and
>>>> used by Menu Foods in nearly 100 brands of dog and cat food.
>>> When did we start importing wheat from China?

Unless "you" own shares in a transnational food corporation,
"we" didn't.  The capitalist megafoodbiz did, as soon as there
was money to be made at it.

The answer seems to be "by 2003":
http://english.people.com.cn/200302/22/eng20030222_112077.shtml

> How can China POSSIBLY be exporting FOOD. To North America?

Ireland was a net food exporter during the Great Famine.  So was
Bengal during the genocidal famine of the 1940s.  The fact that
a food would be better used at home doesn't stop capitalism from
shipping it to the opposite side of the planet.

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jofirey - 24 Mar 2007 04:37 GMT
>>>>> the rodenticide, which the source says is illegal to use in the
>>>>> United States, was on wheat that was imported from China and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> a food would be better used at home doesn't stop capitalism from
> shipping it to the opposite side of the planet.

I understand that, but with the price of fuel and the cost of shipping, not
to mention that if we run short of wheat there is always Canada makes me
wonder how it makes dollars and cents.

Jo
Debbie Wilson - 24 Mar 2007 10:46 GMT
> I understand that, but with the price of fuel and the cost of shipping, not
> to mention that if we run short of wheat there is always Canada makes me
> wonder how it makes dollars and cents.

My guess is that like a lot of China's exports, it will be sold to the
US at an incredibly low price. I can't remember the proper phrase for
this but it's been a bone of contention regarding Chinese-made shoe
exports to the EU recently.

Deb.
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 24 Mar 2007 23:10 GMT
>> I understand that, but with the price of fuel and the cost of
>> shipping, not to mention that if we run short of wheat there is
>> always Canada makes me wonder how it makes dollars and cents.

If you've got hundreds of tons of wheat on your hands that's been
condemned as unfit for use as rat poison, you're not going to be too
fussy about the price you get for it, are you?  Match up with a pet
food manufacturer like Nestle (the owner of Purina) which has shown
exactly zero remorse about killing millions of babies and you've got
a deal.

> My guess is that like a lot of China's exports, it will be sold to the
> US at an incredibly low price. I can't remember the proper phrase for
> this but it's been a bone of contention regarding Chinese-made shoe
> exports to the EU recently.

"Dumping".  What the US does with rice all over the planet.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 24 Mar 2007 21:57 GMT
>>>>>>the rodenticide, which the source says is illegal to use in the
>>>>>>United States, was on wheat that was imported from China and
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> to mention that if we run short of wheat there is always Canada makes me
> wonder how it makes dollars and cents.

Three words:  "labor costs" and "subsidies"
Aleks A.-Lessmann - 29 Mar 2007 05:04 GMT
>I understand that, but with the price of fuel and the cost of shipping, not
>to mention that if we run short of wheat there is always Canada makes me
>wonder how it makes dollars and cents.

Always remember that in China, political prisoners are forced to do work
wherever needed. That changes the calculation for any product of China.

Regards
Aleks
Jack Campin - bogus address - 30 Mar 2007 00:22 GMT
> Always remember that in China, political prisoners are forced to do
> work wherever needed. That changes the calculation for any product
> of China.

Not just political prisoners, *any* prisoners.

Just like the USA.

I doubt there's much difference in the relative sizes of the prison
economy between the two countries.

It's not really relevant to criminally disposing of duff merchandise,
anyway.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 24 Mar 2007 21:55 GMT
>>>>March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have determined
>>>>that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the tainted pet food that
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> This doesn't pass the smell test.....

Why?  They can get more money selling it abroad - why worry
if a few more hundreds of thousands of their own people
starve?  (Communist China is adopting Capitalist values,
hadn't you noticed?)
kraut - 24 Mar 2007 01:43 GMT
>> March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have determined
>> that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the tainted pet food that
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Jo

Wheat gluten.

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 24 Mar 2007 21:53 GMT
>>March 23, 2007 - ABC News has learned that investigators have determined
>>that a rodent-killing chemical is the toxin in the tainted pet food that
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> I thought I was keeping up with the news better than that.  When did we
> start importing wheat from China?

When it became cheaper than buying it from American farmers?
 (And of course, food producers have another competitor for
purchases of grain - it's a raw material for ethanol.)
 
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