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Purrayers for courage...
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Karen AKA Kajikit - 06 Mar 2007 14:04 GMT I did something very difficult for me yesterday - there's an awkward situation brewing at church and rather than stewing about it I emailed our minister with a direct request for an answer... writing it out helped me to feel better about it temporarily, but then I realised that he doesn't work on Mondays so if I'm going to get an answer at all it probably won't be until tomorrow... I can't keep my hands off the 'get mail' button, and I'm feeling sick to my stomach over what he's going to say...
tanadashoes - 06 Mar 2007 14:44 GMT > I did something very difficult for me yesterday - there's an awkward > situation brewing at church and rather than stewing about it I emailed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the 'get mail' button, and I'm feeling sick to my stomach over what > he's going to say... By now you probably have your answer. Sometimes it is really hard to shake the tree for information. Purrs for everything to work out for you and for you to keep grabbing on and using your courage for answers. We're all here for you, John, and the fuzzy butts.
Pam S.
mlbriggs - 06 Mar 2007 15:12 GMT > I did something very difficult for me yesterday - there's an awkward > situation brewing at church and rather than stewing about it I emailed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the 'get mail' button, and I'm feeling sick to my stomach over what > he's going to say... To repeat an old saying: "One truth we learn from living through the years" fear brings more pain than does the pain it fears.: Purrs for your peace of mind. MLB
Kreisleriana - 06 Mar 2007 15:36 GMT >I did something very difficult for me yesterday - there's an awkward >situation brewing at church and rather than stewing about it I emailed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the 'get mail' button, and I'm feeling sick to my stomach over what >he's going to say... Soothing purrs for your nervous tummy, and for your nerves. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
Make Levees, Not War
Irulan - 06 Mar 2007 18:08 GMT Purrs and prayers things go your way. Having courage is a wonderful thing. I wish I had more of it.
Lily & her mama
 Signature Irulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time.
>I did something very difficult for me yesterday - there's an awkward > situation brewing at church and rather than stewing about it I emailed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the 'get mail' button, and I'm feeling sick to my stomach over what > he's going to say... kilikini - 06 Mar 2007 20:47 GMT > I did something very difficult for me yesterday - there's an awkward > situation brewing at church and rather than stewing about it I emailed [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the 'get mail' button, and I'm feeling sick to my stomach over what > he's going to say... There have been so many instances where I hit that "send" button without thinking of the re-purr-cussions. Let's hope you don't get your ear, er, eyes chewed out!
kili
Karen AKA Kajikit - 07 Mar 2007 02:04 GMT >> I did something very difficult for me yesterday - there's an awkward >> situation brewing at church and rather than stewing about it I emailed [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >thinking of the re-purr-cussions. Let's hope you don't get your ear, er, >eyes chewed out! Oh, I thought about the repurcussions VERY carefully before I sent it. It wasn't a spur-of-the-moment thing... and I got my answer, and it wasn't what I wanted to hear... if I was in the mood to be hyper-emotional it could be devastating because he just reinforced a lesson I've learned many times before (you're not good enough, we don't want you, go away) but such is life. I'm hurt, but I'll live. And really, I had my answer before I ever sent the email - if he'd actually cared about my input he would have told me about it beforehand instead of at the meeting with everyone else.
Stormmee - 07 Mar 2007 02:27 GMT I am sorry that these people do not see your value as we here do, perhaps its time to invest some energy in finding another house of worship, again, I am very sorry, Lee, who has had the same lesson many times as well, Lee
> >> I did something very difficult for me yesterday - there's an awkward > >> situation brewing at church and rather than stewing about it I emailed [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > actually cared about my input he would have told me about it > beforehand instead of at the meeting with everyone else. Cantate - 07 Mar 2007 03:52 GMT 2 Thess. 1:3 hugs to you. Prrrrrrrr, mrrrrrrrowr. Eeeemmmrrrppp! (headbutts and kneads) Woof!
Cantate and 5 (waiting for the 5th to come back)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 07 Mar 2007 18:58 GMT > Oh, I thought about the repurcussions VERY carefully before I sent it. > It wasn't a spur-of-the-moment thing... and I got my answer, and it > wasn't what I wanted to hear... if I was in the mood to be > hyper-emotional it could be devastating because he just reinforced a > lesson I've learned many times before (you're not good enough, we > don't want you, go away) but such is life. You got a "we don't want you, go away" message from your *minister*? What kind of minister is that?
> I'm hurt, but I'll live. Of course you are! I would be deeply hurt. The clergy should be addressing your concerns, not dismissing them. Even if he can't do what you suggest, or he thinks it's the wrong solution to the problem, he could still speak to you respectfully about your needs, and help you resolve it within yourself. Of course the clergy are just humans like everyone else, and they're not perfect, but this seems like a basic incompetence to me, and someone should call him on it. You certainly shouldn't be left feeling unwanted.
Purrs, Joyce
Karen AKA Kajikit - 08 Mar 2007 00:01 GMT > > Oh, I thought about the repurcussions VERY carefully before I sent it. > > It wasn't a spur-of-the-moment thing... and I got my answer, and it [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >incompetence to me, and someone should call him on it. You certainly >shouldn't be left feeling unwanted. It's really not important... I was on the music team and he decided unilaterally to bring in a couple of paid singers instead of us. It only mattered to me because he didn't have the courtesy and consideration to break it to me gently or to think it would even matter to me at all. He is NOT a 'people person' so I'm sure it never occurred to him...
Cantate - 08 Mar 2007 00:44 GMT Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm the flute teacher at this school and last week the band director had a flutist from Hawaii come in to give a workshop, without asking me. I was sitting beside him and he said, in front of my students, "You all know I don't play flute. Why do you think I brought in a flute specialist?" (Er, isn't there one sitting beside you??) He's very young and just doesn't think. I know he values my teaching, but... it just never occurred to him that you shouldn't say that in front of someone's students!
Because he's young and such, I just laughed afterwards.
Cantate
David - 08 Mar 2007 17:47 GMT >>You got a "we don't want you, go away" message from your *minister*? >>What kind of minister is that? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > matter to me at all. He is NOT a 'people person' so I'm sure it never > occurred to him... Of course it matters to you! You stated very, very well why it matters to you, and it certainly is important! Volunteers are the backbone of churches, and clergy who fail to recognize that do their congregations a grave injustice. I can think of few things as painful as being told essentially that one's gifts aren't wanted. An organist colleague of mine says that churches are the most un-Christian places. I have my own history as a professional organist of receiving abysmal treatment by clergy and choir directors; I don't want to place myself in harm's way anymore by taking another church music position. If your clergyperson is not a "people person" he should find another line of work, in my opinion, before he does further damage.
David
Kreisleriana - 08 Mar 2007 18:35 GMT >>>You got a "we don't want you, go away" message from your *minister*? >>>What kind of minister is that? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >David "Many deeply religious people are naturally cruel and consider their religious beliefs and practices absolve them from the necessity of possessing any other virtues, particularly charity"
-- Vyvyan Holland (the younger son of Oscar Wilde)
I'm a church musician, too, and I have been lucky for the most part, to work with wonderful people. But churches, are after all, human establishments, subject to all that entails.
Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
Make Levees, Not War
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 08 Mar 2007 19:03 GMT > "David" <david@nowhere.net> yodeled:
>> An organist colleague of mine says that churches are the most un-Christian >> places. I have my own history as a professional organist of receiving >> abysmal treatment by clergy and choir directors; I don't want to place >> myself in harm's way anymore by taking another church music position. >> If your clergyperson is not a "people person" he should find another line >> of work, in my opinion, before he does further damage.
> I'm a church musician, too, and I have been lucky for the most part, > to work with wonderful people. But churches, are after all, human > establishments, subject to all that entails. Exactly - that's what I was saying before. Clergy are humans, they're imperfect like anyone else. But it seems to me that if you're not a "people person", why would you take on the work of being a spiritual leader? Hmm, maybe I'll become a professional athlete. I'm uncoordinated and out of shape, but hey, nobody's perfect. Talk about Bad Career Choices. :)
Joyce
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