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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2004Ban Those Names!
from the "He's got too much time on his hands" department... (would you change your kitty's name?) Brazilian Seeks Ban on Human Pet Names By Associated Press Published October 28, 2004, 3:42 PM CDT BRASILIA, Brazil -- A Brazilian legislator wants to make it illegal to give pets names that are common among people. Federal congressman Reinaldo Santos e Silva proposed the law after psychologists suggested that some children may get depressed when they learn they share their first name with someone's pet, said Damarias Alves, a spokeswoman for Silva. "Names have importance," said Alves. The congressman "wants to challenge people's assumptions that it's acceptable to give animals human names," she said. If the law is passed, pet stores and veterinary clinics would be required to display a sign noting the prohibition of human first names for pets. Brazilians who break the law would be subject to fines or community service. Alves admitted the law's chances of passage were slim but said Silva hoped the bill would call attention to his other efforts to protect animals. "He's proposed many laws to protect wildlife in Brazil, but this is the only one that has ever gotten any attention," Alves said. Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha ============ http://www.jhedge.com > from the "He's got too much time on his hands" department... > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > first name with someone's pet, said Damarias Alves, a spokeswoman for > Silva. Well that's simply ridiculous (and I'm glad I don't live in Brazil - a former co-worker told me her fiance's mother couldn't buy land down there by herself, he has to go do it for her... talk about the Dark Ages). Why would children get upset if a pet is called Joe or Sam or Frank? This makes no sense. I think this politician is off his rocker. Jill >> from the "He's got too much time on his hands" department... >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Why would children get upset if a pet is called Joe or Sam or Frank? > This makes no sense. I think this politician is off his rocker. One of my cousins bought a dog, and named it Rachel. A couple of years later, when his daughter was born, he named her Rachel as well. The other relatives, including me, felt that it was a bit odd to give his child a name that he had also given to the dog. If he had given his daughter a name that concidentally was that of someone else's pet, that wouldn't be an issue (well, unless he had named his daughter Spot, Rover, etc.).  SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria >One of my cousins bought a dog, and named it Rachel. A couple of >years later, when his daughter was born, he named her Rachel as well. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >else's pet, that wouldn't be an issue (well, unless he had named his >daughter Spot, Rover, etc.). My great-aunt Annie named her mule Myra after my grandmother (her sister-in-law). > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>>they learn they share their first name with someone's pet, said >>>Damarias Now this is why I could never be a politician. Having to worry about things like this all the time for the good of the people would just make me crazy. Mike The early bird gets the worm; but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese!! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/skippymjp/my_photos John F. Eldredge <john@jfeldredge.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Ban Those Names!: >One of my cousins bought a dog, and named it Rachel. A couple of >years later, when his daughter was born, he named her Rachel as well. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >else's pet, that wouldn't be an issue (well, unless he had named his >daughter Spot, Rover, etc.). I'd think it would be too confusing to give a child a name already in use in the family. :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL >I'd think it would be too confusing to give a child a name already in >use in the family. :-) Especially if she hears "Rachel! Outside for doo-doos now, girl! But not in the flower beds!" ;-) --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > Why would children get upset if a pet is called Joe or Sam or Frank? This > makes no sense. I think this politician is off his rocker. My first cat was named "Peter", to which my grandfather took (mock) exception. (His surname was Peter.) He insisted upon calling the cat by "Here, Vogt! Here, Vogt!" (my maiden name). He also used to "abuse" it, verbally - all the while holding it on his knee, petting it. (My grandfather was a rather large man, and the sight of that tiny kitten on his knee, purring away - while being verbally insulted in a tender tone of voice - is one of my precious memories.) > Jill >from the "He's got too much time on his hands" department... > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >"He's proposed many laws to protect wildlife in Brazil, but this is >the only one that has ever gotten any attention," Alves said. What I think they should really do in Brazil, is ban giving "animal" names to people. When people go around calling themselves XuXu, how is anybody supposed to know what are "human" or "animal" names? :P:P:P:P Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com >from the "He's got too much time on his hands" department... > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >============ >http://www.jhedge.com When the DH and I got married my grandmother had a miniature pincer named Linda Lee. DH and I had both always liked the name Linda so when our little girl was born we named her Linda Marie and never once thought about the dog being named Linda. I learned 40+ years later that the next born thought that we had named our Linda after the dog, probably because we called her Linda Ree when she was little. Nan >"Names have importance," said Alves. The congressman "wants to >challenge people's assumptions that it's acceptable to give animals >human names," she said. I do believe the Brazilian congressman has far too much time on his hands. Mind you, if I were a cat or a dog, if I was named Reinaldo Santos e Silva, it would depress me to think I had the same name as a stupid congressman with an amoeba for a brain ;-) Of course, the congressman fails to understand we are all animals... Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > Mind you, if I were a cat or a dog, if I was named Reinaldo Santos e > Silva, it would depress me to think I had the same name as a stupid > congressman with an amoeba for a brain ;-) LOL!!! Joyce > >"Names have importance," said Alves. The congressman "wants to > >challenge people's assumptions that it's acceptable to give animals [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > for a brain ;-) Of course, the congressman fails to understand we are all > animals... I think this is just proof positive that no matter the nation, everyone elects jackasses to public office! Blessed be, Baha > I think this is just proof positive that no matter the nation, everyone elects > jackasses to public office! > > Blessed be, > Baha It's good to know that the US doesn't have a monopoly on them. At least, I think it is... Dan >> I think this is just proof positive that no matter the nation, >> everyone elects jackasses to public office! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dan The trouble is, there's plenty to go round. ;-) SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. > Federal congressman > Reinaldo Santos e Silva proposed the law after psychologists suggested > that some children may get depressed when they learn they share their > first name with someone's pet Give me a break!!! What would be depressing about that? I would have found it *funny* to meet a cat or dog named Joyce. > "Names have importance," said Alves. The congressman "wants to > challenge people's assumptions that it's acceptable to give animals > human names," she said. I'd like to challenge their assumptions that animals are inferior to humans. (Maybe they don't realize that humans are also animals, and therefore, all people would be illegally named? :)) > Alves admitted the law's chances of passage were slim but said Silva > hoped the bill would call attention to his other efforts to protect > animals. His "other" efforts to protect animals? Implying that the ban-human- names idea has something to do with protecting animals? Joyce >I'd like to challenge their assumptions that animals are inferior to >humans. (Maybe they don't realize that humans are also animals, and >therefore, all people would be illegally named? :)) The original idea is from a Brazilian congressman. A school Nathan went to had a Brazilian nun who taught religion. Lovely lady, but some interesting ideas ;-) In one lesson she asked the kids to write down the names of five family members who loved them. Nathan wrote "Mum, Dad, Waffles, Francis, Marble" The school has a Sister Francis. The Brazilian nun saw Nathan's writing and said, "Nathan! you do not say Francis, it is Sister Francis!" Nathan responded by saying that Francis was his cat, as is Waffles & Marble. The nun was most confused - "How can animals be your family?" she said. Nathan insisted that Waffles, Francis and Marble are indeed his family, and loved members at that. The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. My response was that animals are god's creatures, and as such, we should respect them and if a child can learn to love and respect animals, that child will learn to love & respect people, as the animals respond to be treated with kindness. This seemed to be a reason for much deep thought. So much so that on a holiday back in Brazil, she retold the story at a mass in her church. Different culture, different attitudes methinks. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > In one lesson she asked the kids to write down the names of five family > members who loved them. Nathan wrote "Mum, Dad, Waffles, Francis, Marble" > The school has a Sister Francis. The Brazilian nun saw Nathan's writing > and said, "Nathan! you do not say Francis, it is Sister Francis!" Oddly, she had no comment about the other names in Nathan's list. I wonder who she thought "Waffles" and "Marble" were?? :) Nathan's brother and/or sister, LOL? (Well, that congressman didn't say anything about not giving animal names to children! :)) I suppose that if this nun were new to the UK and not familiar with English names, that might explain the oversight. > The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on > to say that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are > not looked upon in this way, they are just animals. I think Britta has posted about this, too - that the Thais she meets think it's odd how much she and Dennis adore Vino. > This seemed to be a reason for much deep thought. So much so that on a > holiday back in Brazil, she retold the story at a mass in her church. That's wonderful! You did a great thing, Helen. Joyce >I suppose that if this nun were new to the UK and not familiar with English >names, that might explain the oversight. She's been here years ;-) --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > confused - "How can animals be your family?" she said. Nathan insisted that > Waffles, Francis and Marble are indeed his family, and loved members at that. You are doing a wonderful job raising Nathan! He sounds like such a good human being. > The Brazilian nun often reminds me of this tale, as she then goes on to say > that in Brazil, this would be seen as most odd, as animals are not looked upon > in this way, they are just animals. My response was that animals are god's That is very common in many countries, unfortunately. In Mexico they make fun at all the things americans do to pamper their pets. My mom still argues with me when she mentions that I don't have children and I reply saying that I have seven. :) SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > In Mexico they make fun at all the things americans do to pamper > their pets. This makes me sad. I don't like the idea that the way I treat my cats is seen as some sort of over-privileged indulgence. Yes, I am privileged, and my ability to treat animals well is certainly part of that privilege. But it's not a *negative* thing. I consider myself and my pets to be very lucky, and I'm grateful for the opportunity to be good to them, to give them what they need to be healthy and happy, and so forth. My animals mean so much to me. I hate thinking that some people would make fun of that. Joyce >This makes me sad. I don't like the idea that the way I treat my cats >is seen as some sort of over-privileged indulgence. Yes, I am privileged, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Joyce I've always treated pets very well, but really only pampered them the way I do now for the last five years or so. (About the time the "empty nest" set in, coincidence?0 But when you think about it, pampering and spoiling pets seems to be a relatively recent phenomenon. PetsMarts really only came into existence around here in the last 10 years. I never *heard* of some of the products sold now five years ago. I wonder. But it's a very good thing, IMO. Our pets are way past due (thinking back to how it was when I was a kid) Sherry > I've always treated pets very well, but really only pampered them the way I do > now for the last five years or so. (About the time the "empty nest" set in, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > how it was when I was a kid) > Sherry Yeah, it's funny how that happened just as the baby-boomers started experiencing empty nest syndrome - myself included! ;> Hugs, CatNipped > > In Mexico they make fun at all the things americans do to pamper > > their pets. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Joyce It's funny, DH were at the movies last night where they have those slide shows beforehand giving the audience "movie trivia". One of the items said that Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones spent $210,000 per *hour* on their wedding. My first thought was, "My gawd, do you know how many kittens could be immunized, speutered and fed for what a couple of spoiled movie stars spent celebrating themselves and their wealth!???" *Then* I thought of all the starving children in the world who could be fed for the same amount. Either way, I could definitely find something better to do than further pamper two overly-pampered celebs! Hugs, CatNipped > One of the items said >that Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones spent $210,000 per *hour* on >their wedding. That's truly disgusting. For all I know, the pair may donate millions to charity, but that's still an obscene amount of money for a wedding. Sherry >That's truly disgusting. For all I know, the pair may donate millions to >charity, but that's still an obscene amount of money for a wedding. > >Sherry When Vernon & I got married, in attendance were Vernon & I (obviously), Nathan, two witnesses, my mum & dad. That was it. Lovely. Afterwards we went home, got into my old tracksuit - cooked lunch for everyone & then did a massive buffet for the evening, when we had open house, where we invited all of our friends round. Loved it. My wedding probably cost a thousand times less than the House of Spartacus event and I bet it was as much fun ;-) Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > >That's truly disgusting. For all I know, the pair may donate millions to > >charity, but that's still an obscene amount of money for a wedding. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > round. Loved it. My wedding probably cost a thousand times less than the House > of Spartacus event and I bet it was as much fun ;-) Louie and I spent around $7000.00, which in the US is considered a cheap wedding. We found a place that would do a dry reception (no booze for orthodox Sikhs) and a "Buffalo Buffet" of pizza, wings, and beef on weck. (a Kummelweck roll, salted on top and flavored with caraway seeds.) One of my buddies told me he had never had such a good time at a wedding without getting plowed. My dress was made in Toronto by an Indian tailor, who had never had a big, fat lady walk into her home, standing a foot taller than the top of her bunned hair; she looked like God had dropped a mountain in her living room. The whole dress job cost around $150, including cost of fabric. It is truly disgusting how we got treated when we asked for no booze. Some places got really rude about it. One fellow was honest enough to tell us that the bulk of his money came from the booze and recommended the place where we had our reception. We had a family portrait done, which sat on the gift table: me and Louie and Fritzie, who was sticking his tongue out at the camera! We could do something without including the kitty in some way, after all. Blessed be, Baha > Cheers, helen s > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > > >That's truly disgusting. For all I know, the pair may donate millions to > > >charity, but that's still an obscene amount of money for a wedding. > > > > > >Sherry I honestly can't remember how much our wedding cost, but I do know that we didn't borrow anything for it, we managed to pay in advance for everything. We got married in the registry office, and were taken there by Ade's stepfather, who has a gorgeous powder blue vintage Jaguar. If he hadn't had that car, then we would have simply ordered a taxi. We chose a venue that was within walking distance of the train station, bus station and main hotels in town, and stayed there for the dinner and the evening reception. That allowed as many people as possible to make their way home after the wedding at minimal cost. A teetotal friend drove us home at the end of the night. One of my friends organised everyone for the photographs, and enough people ordered extra sets that we ended up with a gorgeous wedding album. We didn't have a disco, two of my friends offered to bring their band and put on a barn dance for us :) Everyone had fun, we didn't end up in debt, and I have lots of great memories. Jeanette Singh <bahadur@localnet.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Ban Those Names!: >It is truly disgusting how we got treated when we asked for no booze. Some places >got really rude about it. One fellow was honest enough to tell us that the bulk of >his money came from the booze and recommended the place where we had our reception. Maybe you should have asked Mormon friends for suggestions. :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL One of the best weddings I went to was my best friend's. A register office job, so she went in as Miss C and came out ten minutes later as Mrs B. Reception at her in-laws' house. Halfway through the afternoon, as the more senior members of the party were dropping off to sleep, the bridge decided she wanted to go out for a walk. So she gathered up her husband, the best man (his best friend), her sister, Richard and myself, and we all wandered off (in our wedding finery on a weekday afternoon in a quiet, residential part of town!), ending up at the local pub where several games of pool were played. Simple, inexpensive and no nonsense, but fun. By contrast, my niece's wedding involved a drive from town centre (church) to somewhere scenic for photos (no warning - just ordered to drive out to the middle of nowhere) then elsewhere for the reception, which in itself was an homage to spending, bad taste and over-the-top-ness. I got out as soon as I could. SignatureCathi > One of the best weddings I went to was my best friend's. A register > office job, so she went in as Miss C and came out ten minutes later as > Mrs B. Reception at her in-laws' house. Halfway through the afternoon, > as the more senior members of the party were dropping off to sleep, the > bridge decided she wanted to go out for a walk. I had to think about this for a while before I figured out what you had meant to say. The *bridge* wanted to go out for a walk?? OK, what could that mean? Is this some sort of UK slang for someone who's just gotten married? :) OH!! DUH... it's a *typo*. Sometimes I'm so literal- minded I really scare myself. :) Joyce > > One of the best weddings I went to was my best friend's. A register > > office job, so she went in as Miss C and came out ten minutes later as [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >gotten married? :) OH!! DUH... it's a *typo*. Sometimes I'm so literal- >minded I really scare myself. :) Ergh .... I couldn't sleep this morning, so got up and did newsgroups instead. Obviously I was sleepier than I thought! SignatureCathi >> > One of the best weddings I went to was my best friend's. A register >> > office job, so she went in as Miss C and came out ten minutes later as [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Ergh .... I couldn't sleep this morning, so got up and did newsgroups > instead. Obviously I was sleepier than I thought! When I did a lot more touch typing than I do now, my fingers would never let me type "bread." As soon as the a.d. part came into view my fingers just insisted on typing "and." It was always breand. Tweed >When Vernon & I got married, in attendance were Vernon & I (obviously), >Nathan, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Cheers, helen s It *sounds* fun. Isn't that the purpose of a wedding? To share your special day with friends and family? We had my daughter's wedding in our back yard, (garden). It was so fun. We spent more money on food than anything else, because the flowers were already there. Even the cats got to come. :) Sherry > It *sounds* fun. Isn't that the purpose of a wedding? To share your special day > with friends and family? We had my daughter's wedding in our back yard, > (garden). It was so fun. We spent more money on food than anything else, > because the flowers were already there. Even the cats got to come. :) > > Sherry Same thing with us. We were married underneath a huge tree (vintage unknown to myself) in Rob's parents' back yard. Again more money was spent on the food than anything else, and we had a blast. I was a nervous wreck and Rob shoved wedding cake into my face. The toast was made with sparkling cider in order to keep Rob's Mormon mother and minister (who officiated) happy, and to keep me on the wagon. (I'm an alcoholic) A great time was had by everyone and we still talk about the wedding whenever we visit Rob's parents' back yard. Sadly, the gigantic tree has not only taken over the back yard, but is endangering the neighbor's garage. It is going to have to come down, if it hasn't already. >> It *sounds* fun. Isn't that the purpose of a wedding? To share your special day >> with friends and family? We had my daughter's wedding in our back yard, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >made with sparkling cider in order to keep Rob's Mormon mother and >minister (who officiated) happy, and to keep me on the wagon. The Mormons I know more than make up for it with sugar. ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Kreisleriana <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Ban Those Names!: >>Same thing with us. We were married underneath a huge tree (vintage >>unknown to myself) in Rob's parents' back yard. Again more money was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>minister (who officiated) happy, and to keep me on the wagon. >The Mormons I know more than make up for it with sugar. ;) [chuckle] That we do. :-) You have heard how many Mormons it takes to change a light bulb, right? Ten. One to change the bulb and nine to bring the refreshments. :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Tanada <tanada@earthlink.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Ban Those Names!: >Same thing with us. We were married underneath a huge tree (vintage >unknown to myself) in Rob's parents' back yard. Again more money was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >alcoholic) A great time was had by everyone and we still talk about the >wedding whenever we visit Rob's parents' back yard. I warned Bob that cake-smooshing was NOT acceptable to me [I wanted a little more dignity to celebrate what was to us a sacred ceremony than that]. Fortunately, he agreed with me. :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL > Tanada <tanada@earthlink.net> had some very interesting things to say > about Re: Ban Those Names!: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL DH and I agreed with that - we fed each other with forks. Amazed the in laws. The one thing I really wanted was to something with the tables. Numbers are so boring. We (DH + I + F-IL) used to always joke about needing a new excuse to go to Maine (York area about 1 hour car trip). So we took pictures of various places and used the picture on the tables instead of numbers. (we also included Maine lottery tickets and goldenrod taffy as favors). We didn't have a head table, it was the MAINE table (the welcome to Maine sign). Surprised a bunch of people. Signature-Kim owned by Egbert, Niobe, Sekhar and Rocket take the cat out before you reply one cat just leads to another... http://photos.yahoo.com/sir_eg_of_bert http://picturetrail.com/ownedbycats > I warned Bob that cake-smooshing was NOT acceptable to me [I wanted a > little more dignity to celebrate what was to us a sacred ceremony than > that]. Fortunately, he agreed with me. :-) Us too - I never did like the smooshing the cake in the face "joke". I think when you are celebrating your love you should at least show each other some respect and kindness. Feeding each other cake is supposed to symbolize taking care of and providing for one another, not humiliating one another. Hugs, CatNipped > -- > "The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be > doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. > :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL > I warned Bob that cake-smooshing was NOT acceptable to me [I wanted a > little more dignity to celebrate what was to us a sacred ceremony than > that]. Fortunately, he agreed with me. :-) Us too - I never did like the smooshing the cake in the face "joke". I think when you are celebrating your love you should at least show each other some respect and kindness. Feeding each other cake is supposed to symbolize taking care of and providing for one another, not humiliating one another. Hugs, CatNipped > -- > "The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be > doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. > :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL >> I warned Bob that cake-smooshing was NOT acceptable to me [I wanted a >> little more dignity to celebrate what was to us a sacred ceremony than [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >some respect and kindness. Feeding each other cake is supposed to symbolize >taking care of and providing for one another, not humiliating one another. I've never been married, so maybe I'm missing something symbolic, but I've never understood the cake in the face deal. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html > >> I warned Bob that cake-smooshing was NOT acceptable to me [I wanted a > >> little more dignity to celebrate what was to us a sacred ceremony than [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I've never been married, so maybe I'm missing something symbolic, but > I've never understood the cake in the face deal. I am married and still don't understand it! ;> Hugs, CatNipped > -- > Steve Touchstone, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html > Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html > Us too - I never did like the smooshing the cake in the face "joke". I > think when you are celebrating your love you should at least show each other > some respect and kindness. Feeding each other cake is supposed to symbolize > taking care of and providing for one another, not humiliating one another. Not to mention wasting perfectly good cake! :) Joyce > > Us too - I never did like the smooshing the cake in the face "joke". I > > think when you are celebrating your love you should at least show each other [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Joyce Oh gawd yes!!! ;> Hugs, CatNipped jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net wrote in news:O8Fhd.2933$_3.34887 @typhoon.sonic.net: > Not to mention wasting perfectly good cake! :) I've encountered too many wedding cakes that looked like beautiful pieces of architecture, and tasted like them, too! ;) Give me a simple chocolate cake with buttercream frosting any day. Chocolate chips inside is even better! Hmm, is there such a thing as wedding brownies? :D >jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net wrote in news:O8Fhd.2933$_3.34887 >@typhoon.sonic.net: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >cake with buttercream frosting any day. Chocolate chips inside is even >better! Hmm, is there such a thing as wedding brownies? :D When did they stop having fruitcakes at weddings? Once upon a time they would put a piece of the wedding (fruit) cake under a bell jar as a keepsake, fruitcake being a substance that conceivably outlasts the Pyramids. > When did they stop having fruitcakes at weddings? Once upon a time > they would put a piece of the wedding (fruit) cake under a bell jar as > a keepsake, fruitcake being a substance that conceivably outlasts the > Pyramids. The problem is, there is only one fruitcake in the entire world. It keeps getting sent from one person to another as a Christmas gift. So I guess it's just too busy to appear at weddings. Joyce Me I'm married *and* divorced, But I must have missed more than Steve as I have never heard of it, the only cake in the face I know is the slapstick kind, and that never made me laugh either. Jean.P. > > Us too - I never did like the smooshing the cake in the face "joke". I > > think when you are celebrating your love you should at least show each other [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Joyce ---------------------<snip>---------------------- > Feeding each other cake is supposed to symbolize >taking care of and providing for one another, not humiliating one another. Yeah! The humiliating each other will come soon enough! Regards and Giggles, O J > ---------------------<snip>---------------------- > > Feeding each other cake is supposed to symbolize [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Regards and Giggles, > O J ROTFLMAO!!! Yep! ;> Hugs, CatNipped > It *sounds* fun. Isn't that the purpose of a wedding? To share your special day > with friends and family? We had my daughter's wedding in our back yard, > (garden). It was so fun. We spent more money on food than anything else, > because the flowers were already there. Even the cats got to come. :) > > Sherry Same thing with us. We were married underneath a huge tree (vintage unknown to myself) in Rob's parents' back yard. Again more money was spent on the food than anything else, and we had a blast. I was a nervous wreck and Rob shoved wedding cake into my face. The toast was made with sparkling cider in order to keep Rob's Mormon mother and minister (who officiated) happy, and to keep me on the wagon. (I'm an alcoholic) A great time was had by everyone and we still talk about the wedding whenever we visit Rob's parents' back yard. Sadly, the gigantic tree has not only taken over the back yard, but is endangering the neighbor's garage. It is going to have to come down, if it hasn't already. Pam S. > It *sounds* fun. Isn't that the purpose of a wedding? To share your > special day [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sherry DH and I got married in a gazebo in a park garden (in a misty rain) with just our immediate families in attendance. After brunch at a little restaurant, DH's family went home and my family joined us for a hysterical round of miniature golf in the (sometimes pouring, sometimes misting) rain. My one regret is that no-one was videotaping the golf game :) SignatureElise (supervised by Gossamer & Jeeves) dragonandthistle at snet dot net > When Vernon & I got married, in attendance were Vernon & I (obviously), Nathan, > two witnesses, my mum & dad. That was it. Lovely. Afterwards we went home, got [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Cheers, helen s You probably had more fun than those nut cases did, and your marriage will probably last longer. We spent less than 300 total for Rob's and my wedding 20+ years ago, and most of that was for the buffet we served. There were probably 14 people in attendance and we had a blast. $210,000/hour seems obscene to me. So many cats and d-things could be speutered and find homes for that much money. Pam S. disgusted Dennis and I got married on the beach in Australia. It wasn't an elopement because everybody knew about it, but we just didn't put on a party for anyone and nobody was about to come all the way to Australia for our wedding. For $5000 we had a month in Australia during which time we drove from Sydney to Cairns and back in our cheap rental car, scuba diving, sight seeing, a lovely beach wedding on Dunk Island followed by 2 nights at their resort, and a great photographer. I had sewed my own dress before our trip, it was just a little white summer dress. Dennis had on some black shorts and Tevas. We got Martin and Rose, a Jewish couple from NY who we met on the trail down to the beach before the wedding, to be our witnesses. They thought it was "soooo romaaaaantic!", their own wedding just a few days previously had been a grand affair with 250 guests, for which they would be paying for the next 5 years. Dennis and I had no debts from the wedding and instead invested our savings in a condo. We sold the condo for a profit and now have enough money to move to Australia permanently. On February 21st, 2006, we will go back to Dunk Island and renew our vows for our 10th anniversary. -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > When Vernon & I got married, in attendance were Vernon & I (obviously), Nathan, > two witnesses, my mum & dad. That was it. Lovely. Afterwards we went home, got [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Cheers, helen s > > One of the items said > >that Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones spent $210,000 per *hour* on > >their wedding. > > That's truly disgusting. For all I know, the pair may donate millions to > charity, but that's still an obscene amount of money for a wedding. Our wedding was on top of Mt Keira, to the backdrop of a wonderful view of Illawarra and the sea. My dress cost $40, the shoes $100, the makeup was free when I bought the Christian Dior lipstick (I got it done at one of those stalls in the cosmetics department of a big department store - lipstick was $40 and I needed it to "touch up" anyway). Joel's suit hire was $150. The Celebrant's fee is a set $300. The booze cost at the most, $500. Various sundries came to about another $200. The reception was out our favourite restaurant ( a Japanese place - they threw in the decoration for free, we hadn't asked for it) and we asked the guests to pay for their dinner (at $25 per person) rather than give us gifts. We ate till we couldn't fit anything more in (and had leftovers), my parents supplied the cake, and there was lots of booze left over (we're going to drink the last bottle tonight - its our 1st anniversary today) and everyone said it was the most relaxed and comfortable wedding they'd ever been to - and the cheapest (some people did bring gifts, but they were sweet, thoughtful, nont "wedding present" small electrical appliance - priced gifts) to boot. I think we probably payed less than $1000 when everything got added up. It was just the right combination of formal ceremony and casual celebration for us. I'd do it again! Yowie Boss isn't here, so I'm being sneaky and posting & reading at work. Hence my not-lurking today. > > > One of the items said > > >that Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones spent $210,000 per *hour* [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Boss isn't here, so I'm being sneaky and posting & reading at work. Hence my > not-lurking today. Happy Anniversary, Yowie and Joel! Your wedding sounds lovely! Your description almost made me feel as if I was there. IIRC, you took me to the top of Mt. Keira when I was there. We went to a Japanese restaurant too. I wonder if it was the same one? You had the right idea. Spending obscene amounts of money is not the way to have a beautiful wedding. Joy > (we're going to drink the last > bottle tonight - its our 1st anniversary today) It's been a year already? Congratulations! I'll never forget that beautiful picture of you and Joel, walking away from the camera with your arms around each other. Full of meaning and symbolism. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >Our wedding was on top of Mt Keira, to the backdrop of a wonderful view of >Illawarra and the sea. My dress cost $40, the shoes $100, the makeup was [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >right combination of formal ceremony and casual celebration for us. I'd do >it again! Happy anniversary! Doesn't seem possible that it's been a year SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html >(we're going to drink the last >bottle tonight - its our 1st anniversary today) Happy anniversary!! Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- > there was lots of booze left over (we're going to drink the last > bottle tonight - its our 1st anniversary today) Hey, congratulations!!! That year sure went fast! Joyce Happy anniversary to you and your family, Vicky, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > Our wedding was on top of Mt Keira, to the backdrop of a wonderful view of > Illawarra and the sea. <snip> its our 1st anniversary today) and everyone said it was the > most relaxed and comfortable wedding they'd ever been to - and the cheapest > (some people did bring gifts, but they were sweet, thoughtful, nont "wedding [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Boss isn't here, so I'm being sneaky and posting & reading at work. Hence my > not-lurking today. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, Vicky. And many more to come. Sam >> > One of the items said >> >that Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones spent $210,000 per *hour* [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > my > not-lurking today. > Our wedding was on top of Mt Keira, to the backdrop of a wonderful > view of Illawarra and the sea. My dress cost $40, the shoes $100, the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Boss isn't here, so I'm being sneaky and posting & reading at work. > Hence my not-lurking today. Happy anniversary to you and Joel. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. > there was lots of booze left over (we're going to drink the last > bottle tonight - its our 1st anniversary today) and everyone said it was the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > right combination of formal ceremony and casual celebration for us. I'd do > it again! I'm late, but Happy Anniversery! I hope it was the first of many years of love and happiness. Pam S. on behalf of the fam damily Happy anniversary to you, happy anniversary to you, happy anniversary, happy anniversary, happy anniversary to yooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu! Hugs, CatNipped > > > One of the items said > > >that Michael Douglas and Catherine Zeta Jones spent $210,000 per *hour* [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Boss isn't here, so I'm being sneaky and posting & reading at work. Hence my > not-lurking today. "CatNipped" <CatNipped@ix.netcom.com> wrote in news:8OVhd.52613$EI6.1753 @fe2.texas.rr.com: > Happy anniversary to you, > happy anniversary to you, > happy anniversary, happy anniversary, > happy anniversary to yooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu! I always preferred the Flintstones' version, with the Lone Ranger theme music with that long chorus: Happy, happy, happy, happy, happ....y anniversary >... we're going to drink the last >bottle tonight - its our 1st anniversary today ... Happy aniversary! May life bring you all the best! Regards and Purrs, O J > Our wedding was on top of Mt Keira, to the backdrop of a wonderful view of > Illawarra and the sea. My dress cost $40, the shoes $100, the makeup was [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Yowie Oh, I just got to this, I'm *still* catching up! I can't believe it's been a year already, congratulations! Wow! I hope you have a great anniversary, and many more :-) -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album >> confused - "How can animals be your family?" she said. Nathan insisted >> that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > argues with me when she mentions that I don't have children and I reply > saying that I have seven. :) Being able to pamper a pet is a luxury that is beyond the means of a large part of the world. But so are a lot of other things. I for one an grateful that I'm able to indulge that particular luxury. My grandmother's would be appalled at how well we treat our cats, and they liked cats. Attitudes change as circumstances allow. Jo >You are doing a wonderful job raising Nathan! He sounds like such a good >human being. Gosh, thank you (blush..) I think he's not bad, but I know I'm biased! He does have a kind heart. Even though he's now reached the lofty heights of being 16, he's not shy to say to his mum & dad that he loves them and give them a big hug :-) Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- >>You are doing a wonderful job raising Nathan! He sounds like such a good >>human being. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >he's not shy to say to his mum & dad that he loves them and give them a big hug >:-) That's so sweet. My little (38) brother was always a sweetie like that. :) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Ban Those Names!: >That is very common in many countries, unfortunately. In Mexico they >make fun at all the things americans do to pamper their pets. My mom >still argues with me when she mentions that I don't have children and I >reply saying that I have seven. :) MIL is resigned to conversations about her grandcat and grandbird. My mother takes it very much in stride, being a pet person herself. Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL > That is very common in many countries, unfortunately. In Mexico they > make fun at all the things americans do to pamper their pets. My mom > still argues with me when she mentions that I don't have children and I > reply saying that I have seven. :) I get that business from my in-laws, who don't quite seem to understand that my fetus facilities are shut down. Mutha-in-law is from China, Doc-Sahib is from India, and both of them scratch their heads when I tell them about the kitty tree we just bought, or something funny one of the cats did. At best they figure cats to be rodent repellent. They get kind of uncomfortable when Louie or I would say "Time to go home and feed the kids now." One of them was heard to mutter, "Why can't they just adopt like normal people?" I said we did, four times. Blessed be, Baha > -- > Victor Martinez > Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > > Federal congressman > > Reinaldo Santos e Silva proposed the law after psychologists suggested [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > hoped the bill would call attention to his other efforts to protect > > animals. > His "other" efforts to protect animals? Implying that the ban-human- > names idea has something to do with protecting animals? > Joyce I may have missed some of this thread, but if some politico has proposed a law banning people from naming animals after humans, I'd be in trouble if I lived in the U.S. and the law were enacted! When we acquired one of our kitties we asked the little girl next door (and her mom) if we could name our new arrival after her. The little girl was delighted, and agreed immediately, as did her parent. Mind you, the entire family are ailurophiles so we weren't surprised at their reaction! > I may have missed some of this thread, but if some politico has > proposed a law banning people from naming animals after humans, I'd be > in trouble if I lived in the U.S. and the law were enacted! Not in the US - Brazil. And it's unlikely to pass. I have a feeling the Brazillian people have more serious problems facing them than what to name their pets. <insert eye-rolling emoticon here> Joyce > acquired one of our kitties we asked the little girl next door (and > her mom) if we could name our new arrival after her. The little girl > was delighted, and agreed immediately, as did her parent. Mind you, One of our friends' daughter is called Maya and she loves the fact that one of our cats is also called Maya. Mind you, Maya (ours) doesn't quite enjoy Maya (theirs) chasing around her... :) SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com My family and I were all out together one day going to visit someone when we met a man with two dogs, we stopped to say hello to the dogs and asked their names, burst out laughing when he said Dianne and Michael, he looked slightly offended, so we explained that they were the names of my daughter and her husband, the only family members who were not with us at the time, we all thought it was extremely funny. Jean.P. > > > Federal congressman > > > Reinaldo Santos e Silva proposed the law after psychologists [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > the entire family are ailurophiles so we weren't surprised at their > reaction! > that some children may get depressed when they learn they share their > first name with someone's pet, said Damarias Alves, a spokeswoman for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > challenge people's assumptions that it's acceptable to give animals > human names," she said. Nocturne says she would be depressed to share a name with a lowly human...how...Ok Nox, it's not "Degrading," you get rid of that attitude right now. --Fil |
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