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Bobcat - 27 Oct 2004 21:33 GMT
Many people seek new occupations and money-making schemes This set me
on a bizarre train of thought: - cat-related ventures which are doomed
to failure from the start by the very nature of the little darlings.
I've thought of a few, and perhaps you can dream up others.

CAT OBEDIENCE SCHOOL - This is not to teach people to follow the
wishes of their kitties, but the reverse. The most obvious pitfall is
that cats will listen to what you tell them to do - and then ignore it
or do the opposite.

CAT SLEDDING -  It's simple, the Inuit have been doing it for
centuries, but with dogs. Why not cats? Because they're cats, that's
why. Try to make them go in a single direction, let alone the one you
have in mind!

CAT RESCUE TEAMS - Dogs are also trained to hunt for skiers lost or
trapped by avalanches.  How about using cats? One of my favourite
cartoons is titled "If Lassie were a cat" gives us a clue. In it Timmy
calls from the bottom of a well, "Lassie, go get help. I'm trapped
here!" Lassie the cat looks down the well and replies, "Where's my
food?"

WATCH CATS - A burglar breaks into your house at 3:00 am. Your
ever-alert cat wakes and streaks towards the felon - right past him,
and down to the basement litter pan to answer an urgent call of
nature. The burglar goes about his business while you continue
sleeping upstairs.

Care to add any kitty-related ventures doomed to fail?
Margaret Fine - 27 Oct 2004 22:01 GMT
> Many people seek new occupations and money-making schemes This set me
> on a bizarre train of thought: - cat-related ventures which are doomed
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Care to add any kitty-related ventures doomed to fail?

How about cat guide for the blind.  It will fail because cats will never
 go where you tell them to.  Their blind person will say "forward" and
just to be contrary the cat will go backwards.  Plus it is hard on the
blind person when they have to stop every 5 minutes so their cat can groom.

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Mary - 27 Oct 2004 22:03 GMT
>Care to add any kitty-related ventures doomed to fail?

CAT SMALL PET SITTING - The cats would watch peoples small pets while they're
away on vacation, especially hamsters, fish and birds. Of course the visitors
would check in but not check out.

BIRD CATS - There are bird dogs and now bird cats. You take them hunting with
you and when you shoot a bird and it falls, the cat will go to retrieve it, but
instead just sit there and dine. "What? You didn't get this for me?"
Bobcat - 27 Oct 2004 22:26 GMT
> >Care to add any kitty-related ventures doomed to fail?

> CAT SMALL PET SITTING - The cats would watch peoples small pets while they're
> away on vacation, especially hamsters, fish and birds. Of course the visitors
> would check in but not check out.

> BIRD CATS - There are bird dogs and now bird cats. You take them hunting with
> you and when you shoot a bird and it falls, the cat will go to retrieve it, but
> instead just sit there and dine. "What? You didn't get this for me?"

Oh, I love those! I think we're onto something here. Keep 'em coming!
Bobcat
Christina Websell - 27 Oct 2004 23:17 GMT
> >Care to add any kitty-related ventures doomed to fail?
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> it, but
> instead just sit there and dine. "What? You didn't get this for me?"

FOOD GUARDING CATS
Never expect your cats to look after your ham/turkey/chicken salad when you
are suddenly called to the telephone.

CATS WHO LIVE ON A POULTRY FARM
Don't trust them when they volunteer to look after baby chicks.
Kreisleriana - 27 Oct 2004 23:24 GMT
>> >Care to add any kitty-related ventures doomed to fail?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>CATS WHO LIVE ON A POULTRY FARM
>Don't trust them when they volunteer to look after baby chicks.

CAT OFFICE TEMPS:
They  run like maniacs to a ringing phone, fax machine, or printer;
but they will not actually *do* anything about them. ;)

Theresa
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Cheryl Perkins - 27 Oct 2004 23:41 GMT
> CAT OFFICE TEMPS:
> They  run like maniacs to a ringing phone, fax machine, or printer;
> but they will not actually *do* anything about them. ;)

CLEANERS/MAIDS:
While they *will* wave their tails about like mobile dusters, and rub the
furniture, they will deposit (not remove) cat hairs, re-distribute dust,
and, as a bonus, tidy cluttered surfaces by ensuring that especially
fragile vases or ornaments end up on the floor instead.

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Bobcat - 28 Oct 2004 00:42 GMT
> CAT OFFICE TEMPS:
> They  run like maniacs to a ringing phone, fax machine, or printer;
> but they will not actually *do* anything about them. ;)
> Theresa

This has been an ongoing problem at Ailurophile Enterprises, the
all-feline communications company. See memo, and others: -

http://www.flippyscatpage.com/internalmemo.html
Kreisleriana - 28 Oct 2004 02:20 GMT
>> CAT OFFICE TEMPS:
>> They  run like maniacs to a ringing phone, fax machine, or printer;
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>http://www.flippyscatpage.com/internalmemo.html

Yes-- and I've seen on occasion that there are some exceptional cats
who answer phones, faxes, and do some filing.  I get the impression
that these are a miniscule minority. ;)

Theresa
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Steve Touchstone - 28 Oct 2004 03:49 GMT
>CAT OFFICE TEMPS:
>They  run like maniacs to a ringing phone, fax machine, or printer;
>but they will not actually *do* anything about them. ;)

Unless you have a cat like Sammy, who will collect and erase messages
from your answering machine.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 27 Oct 2004 22:28 GMT
> CAT RESCUE TEAMS - Dogs are also trained to hunt for skiers lost or
> trapped by avalanches.  How about using cats? One of my favourite
> cartoons is titled "If Lassie were a cat" gives us a clue. In it Timmy
> calls from the bottom of a well, "Lassie, go get help. I'm trapped
> here!" Lassie the cat looks down the well and replies, "Where's my
> food?"

Or imagine being Timmy, looking up to the top of the well, and seeing
Lassie-kitty sitting on the edge, washing herself. :)

Which reminds me, has anyone see the Cable show "Six Feet Under"? If so,
remember the one where a woman dies because her cat accidentally knocks
a plugged-in appliance into the bathtub, where she's immersed in water?
After showing just her feet shaking (electrocution convulsions - this
show was good about not showing the explicit details of death), the camera
slowly pans back to the vanity table, where the cat had knocked off the
electrical appliance. I was expecting to see the cat looking freaked out
and upset that its person had just died, but instead, it was just sitting
there calmly washing itself. :)

Joyce
Christina Websell - 27 Oct 2004 23:25 GMT
> Which reminds me, has anyone see the Cable show "Six Feet Under"? If so,
> remember the one where a woman dies because her cat accidentally knocks
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Joyce

It is illegal in the UK to have an electrical power point in the bathroom
for just this reason.

Tweed
Oh I forgot, there can be a two point thingie for an electric shaver.
Margaret Fine - 28 Oct 2004 00:17 GMT
>>Which reminds me, has anyone see the Cable show "Six Feet Under"? If so,
>>remember the one where a woman dies because her cat accidentally knocks
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Tweed
> Oh I forgot, there can be a two point thingie for an electric shaver.

The cats in the UK must be pretty maniacal.  They killed so many people
by knocking electrical appliances in the tub that there had to be a law
made against having electrical power points in the bath?    :-)

Sorry, I couldn't resist.  When I read it the first time it just struck
me as funny!  :-)
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Christina Websell - 28 Oct 2004 00:40 GMT
>>>Which reminds me, has anyone see the Cable show "Six Feet Under"? If so,
>>>remember the one where a woman dies because her cat accidentally knocks
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Sorry, I couldn't resist.  When I read it the first time it just struck me
> as funny!  :-)

You got me there, I don't understand.that any house here would have an
electrical point in the bathroom - it's so dangerous.  My house was built in
the 30's.
It hasn't got one.  I don't think any cats could knock an electrical
appliance into the bath in England. .  It's not possible.  We prevent it by
having no plug-in power points in our bathrooms. It's actually illegal.

Tweed
Yoj - 28 Oct 2004 00:52 GMT
> You got me there, I don't understand.that any house here would have an
> electrical point in the bathroom - it's so dangerous.  My house was built in
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Tweed

We generally have them in the U.S.  Men use them for their electric
razors, and women use them for their hair dryers.  Actually, I don't use
either of those, but there is a plug in my bathroom.  I have an
emergency light plugged into it.  It is a nightlight unless the power
goes out, in which case it lights up.  It is positioned far enough from
the bathtub that you'd have to be a idiot to have an appliance plugged
in and manage to knock it into the tub, though.

Joy
Cheryl Perkins - 28 Oct 2004 12:31 GMT
> We generally have them in the U.S.  Men use them for their electric
> razors, and women use them for their hair dryers.  Actually, I don't use
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the bathtub that you'd have to be a idiot to have an appliance plugged
> in and manage to knock it into the tub, though.

I thought the US and Canadian codes were similar, and I don't think I've
ever seen a regular electrical outlet in a bathroom. They *do* allow a
special one for razors, and I've seen special arrangements for hair
dryers in public places like changerooms at fitness clubs, but I was
always under the impression that they had some kind of safety device that
would shut off the power instantly in case of accident.  

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O J - 28 Oct 2004 18:05 GMT
>I thought the US and Canadian codes were similar, and I don't think I've
>ever seen a regular electrical outlet in a bathroom. They *do* allow a
>special one for razors, and I've seen special arrangements for hair
>dryers in public places like changerooms at fitness clubs, but I was
>always under the impression that they had some kind of safety device that
>would shut off the power instantly in case of accident.  

Precisely.  It's called a "ground fault interrupter".  The damage is
usually done NOT when a person completes a circuit back to the wall
plug, but when current flows from a 'hot' lead through the person to a
ground (earth) such as a water pipe. A fuse will usually allow  a
deadly amount of current to flow before it blows -- it's designed to
prevent burned out house wiring and resulting fires.  A GFI will blow
as soon as there is the slightest current from a 'hot' lead to ground.
They are required for all outlets in bathrooms in all the building
codes and have been for some time.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Steve Touchstone - 28 Oct 2004 22:18 GMT
>Precisely.  It's called a "ground fault interrupter".  The damage is
>usually done NOT when a person completes a circuit back to the wall
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>They are required for all outlets in bathrooms in all the building
>codes and have been for some time.

for those interested, check here for a picture of a typical gfi wall
socket and more detailed explanation of how it works.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/gfi.html

here's a quote from the link: "A typical circuit breaker interrupts
the ciruit at 20 amperes, but it takes only about 100 milliamperes to
electrocute a person in such a scenario. The GFI is designed to detect
currents of a few milliamperes and trip a breaker at the receptacle or
at the breaker panel to remove the shock hazard.

The GFI has a "Test" button which causes a small difference between
"hot" and neutral currents to test the device. In an example given by
John de Armond, the test button put the 120 volt supply across a 14.75
K resistor, producing a current of 8.2 mA. The UL requirement for a
GFI is that it trip when there is 5 mA of leakage current. There is
also a reset button to use after it has been tripped."
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Jeanne Hedge - 28 Oct 2004 22:38 GMT
>They are required for all outlets in bathrooms in all the building
>codes and have been for some time.

They're also required in kitchens and outside in some localities
(whatever the local building code calls for).

A builder remodelling my parent's kitchen a while back told my dad
that their local building code required GFI outlets instead of regular
outlets if they were within X feet of where water normally is found
(mainly bathrooms and kitchens). Their town also requires permanent
outdoor outlets to be of the GFI type.

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha

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Margaret Fine - 28 Oct 2004 04:30 GMT
>>>>Which reminds me, has anyone see the Cable show "Six Feet Under"? If so,
>>>>remember the one where a woman dies because her cat accidentally knocks
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Tweed

Sorry, it was just the way I read the post. :-) Bobcat had mentioned the
cat knocking the appliance into the bath and you said they don't have
them in the bathroom for just that reason.  I know you mean because in
general it could be dangerous but when I first read it I thought you
meant because cats were always knocking electrical appliances into the
bath.  You'll have to forgive me, I've just had a weird day and was
reading your post too literally and then couldn't stop myself from
teasing and being silly.  :-)

BTW, in most newer houses here in the US they do have electrical outlets
in the bathroom but they have something called a Ground Fault Protector
or indicators.  If an appliance is plugged in and falls into the water
this thing trips and cuts off the power so it is hard to electrocute
yourself anymore.  They're also installing them more and more directly
on things like hair dryers and kitchen appliances.

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Adrian - 29 Oct 2004 16:53 GMT
>> The cats in the UK must be pretty maniacal.  They killed so many
>> people by knocking electrical appliances in the tub that there had
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Tweed

I remember when my grandfather bought a house in North Wales, there was
a 13Amp socket in the bathroom wired into the lighting circuit.
Obviously dangerous but he used it for the next thirty years until the
house was rewired.
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Steve Touchstone - 28 Oct 2004 03:49 GMT
>It is illegal in the UK to have an electrical power point in the bathroom
>for just this reason.
>
>Tweed
>Oh I forgot, there can be a two point thingie for an electric shaver.

As far as I know, modern code here requires a GFC or ground fault
circuit on any outside socket, and any inside socket near where water
is expected to be used. Basically, it's a smart wall socket which has
a built in sensor which monitors the flow of electricity. The sensor
senses any short in the circuit, like an appliance dropped in water,
and closes the circuit - supposedly quick enough to keep you from
being electricuted. Most, if not all, have test/reset buttons, so
they're easy to recognise.

They're easy to install - though older homes that don't have a ground
wire take a little more work. Should be easy to tell if you have the
ground wire, since you'll a three hole plugs instead of the older two
hole. I remember hearing on one of the home improvement shows that
it's the cheapest, easiest, and best way to improve safety in a home.
Course, just because you have one doesn't mean the person who
installed it did so correctly.
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Stormin Mormon - 28 Oct 2004 03:12 GMT
Lassie would have unplugged the cord with her teeth.

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Bobcat <bob_cattUNSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

Which reminds me, has anyone see the Cable show "Six Feet Under"? If so,
remember the one where a woman dies because her cat accidentally knocks
a plugged-in appliance into the bathtub, where she's immersed in water?
After showing just her feet shaking (electrocution convulsions - this
show was good about not showing the explicit details of death), the camera
slowly pans back to the vanity table, where the cat had knocked off the
electrical appliance. I was expecting to see the cat looking freaked out
and upset that its person had just died, but instead, it was just sitting
there calmly washing itself. :)

Joyce
Marina - 28 Oct 2004 04:40 GMT
> Which reminds me, has anyone see the Cable show "Six Feet Under"? If so,
> remember the one where a woman dies because her cat accidentally knocks
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> and upset that its person had just died, but instead, it was just sitting
> there calmly washing itself. :)

Yes, I saw that one. LOL!

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Stormin Mormon - 28 Oct 2004 03:10 GMT
Decorative cat grooming.

I'm sure I'll think of some more.

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Many people seek new occupations and money-making schemes This set me
on a bizarre train of thought: - cat-related ventures which are doomed
to failure from the start by the very nature of the little darlings.
I've thought of a few, and perhaps you can dream up others.

CAT OBEDIENCE SCHOOL - This is not to teach people to follow the
wishes of their kitties, but the reverse. The most obvious pitfall is
that cats will listen to what you tell them to do - and then ignore it
or do the opposite.

CAT SLEDDING -  It's simple, the Inuit have been doing it for
centuries, but with dogs. Why not cats? Because they're cats, that's
why. Try to make them go in a single direction, let alone the one you
have in mind!

CAT RESCUE TEAMS - Dogs are also trained to hunt for skiers lost or
trapped by avalanches.  How about using cats? One of my favourite
cartoons is titled "If Lassie were a cat" gives us a clue. In it Timmy
calls from the bottom of a well, "Lassie, go get help. I'm trapped
here!" Lassie the cat looks down the well and replies, "Where's my
food?"

WATCH CATS - A burglar breaks into your house at 3:00 am. Your
ever-alert cat wakes and streaks towards the felon - right past him,
and down to the basement litter pan to answer an urgent call of
nature. The burglar goes about his business while you continue
sleeping upstairs.

Care to add any kitty-related ventures doomed to fail?
bonbon - 28 Oct 2004 07:30 GMT
CAT CHRISTMAS TREE DECORATORS - because cats prefer the stuff to all
be OFF of the tree, where it can be batted about the room

CAT IRONERS - because ironing cloths is just plain silly.......that
ironing board was set up for the CAT to lay on.

CAT MECHANICS - cars shouldn't run at all, cars are what takes the CAT
to the vets office.

CAT GARDENERS - because th......wait a minute.......CATS make
excellent gardeners.

CAT BABYSITTERS - because babies stink often, cry too much, they don't
eliminate in the box, they keep getting perfectly good milk that the
CAT could be drinking, and they receive entirely too much attention.
Attention that could be given to the CAT.

-bonbon
Seanette Blaylock - 28 Oct 2004 15:46 GMT
bonbon <not@taking.replies> had some very interesting things to say
about Re: Doomed cat ventures:

>CAT MECHANICS - cars shouldn't run at all, cars are what takes the CAT
>to the vets office.

Felix heartily agrees. He was quite disgusted yesterday when he found
out there's an auto shop in town called AutoVet [DH took the car in
for a smog test. The nice gent who did the test also figured out why
the speedometer, odometer, and OBD2 port no longer worked and fixed it
at no extra charge. The problem we've been unable to figure out for
over a year turned out to be a dead fuse].

We even did pass the smog test [that was a worry, since we'd also had
engine problems. Very bright young friend of ours diagnosed that one.
$20 for new spark plug wires later, the engine purrs :-)].

Now to find money and time to fix the A/C [OK, won't be a big issue
until April or May, probably :-)].

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Enfilade - 28 Oct 2004 19:19 GMT
SMOKEY'S PIZZA DELIVERY:
All Pizzas ordered are delivered directly to Smokey's stomach in ten
minutes or less.  He also does sandwiches.

TYCHE'S JANITORIAL SERVICE:
All floors are licked clean.  All vaccuum cleaners are shoved out
balconies, or left out for the garbageman.

KUMANI'S EXTERMINATOR:
Bugs found and promptly eaten.

NOCTURNE'S CHARITY:  ENMITY INTERNATIONAL
Campaigning for the repeal of human rights.  

--Fil
Cheryl Perkins - 28 Oct 2004 23:43 GMT
This thread reminded me of the funniest cat book, 'The Unaduterated Cat'
by Terry Pratchett. He has some similar ideas in his chapter 'The Cats We
Missed'; ie what we might have had if we had no dogs, and tried getting
cats to fill for the dogs.

<snip>
> CAT SLEDDING -  It's simple, the Inuit have been doing it for
> centuries, but with dogs. Why not cats? Because they're cats, that's
> why. Try to make them go in a single direction, let alone the one you
> have in mind!

aka 'The Pussky. Much used by lazy Eskimos, trappers, Mounties, etc.
Refuses to go out in cold weather.'

> CAT RESCUE TEAMS - Dogs are also trained to hunt for skiers lost or
> trapped by avalanches.  How about using cats? One of my favourite
> cartoons is titled "If Lassie were a cat" gives us a clue. In it Timmy
> calls from the bottom of a well, "Lassie, go get help. I'm trapped
> here!" Lassie the cat looks down the well and replies, "Where's my
> food?"

And there's the St. Eric 'never a great success since they depended on the
cat's natural sense of charity and benevolence."

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