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Mark Edwards - 21 Jan 2007 18:56 GMT
Here's something new to worry about with our cats' favorite toy (okay,
second favorite, since we hoomins appear to be their favorite toys -
grin).

From a news item at http://www.nbc5i.com/news/10807181/detail.html

->LOS ANGELES -- A hand-held laser pointer appears to be the
->cause of a fire at a Los Angeles high-rise that caused $200,000
->in damage.
->
->Fire officials said the blaze at the 17-story office building
->on LA's Miracle Mile began just after 10 a.m. Saturday.
->
->The laser device had been placed on an examination table in a
->dermatologist's office on the 12th floor. Officials said the
->device ignited the surrounding furniture.
->
->The fire was put out by the building's sprinkler system, but
->firefighters had to mop up about three inches of water.
->
->There are no reports of any injuries.

I was not aware that a standard laser pointer could put out enough
power to ignite anything, even when continuously pointed at something.
Much less the furniture...

Oh well. Interesting idea for a science project, though. Or a mad
scientist experiment... Bwahahahahahhahhahah!!

Hugs and Purrs,
Mark
William Hamblen - 21 Jan 2007 19:30 GMT
>I was not aware that a standard laser pointer could put out enough
>power to ignite anything, even when continuously pointed at something.
>Much less the furniture...

The battery probably shorted.  Even a small battery can get smoking
hot.  Some poor soul recently had his trousers set alight by a
wireless telephone.

Bud
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John F. Eldredge - 21 Jan 2007 23:06 GMT
>>I was not aware that a standard laser pointer could put out enough
>>power to ignite anything, even when continuously pointed at something.
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>hot.  Some poor soul recently had his trousers set alight by a
>wireless telephone.

Most battery-powered devices have the potential to cause a fire, or at
least get hot enough to burn human skin, if short-circuited.  I once
made the mistake of carrying a 9-volt battery and some coins in the
same pants pocket.  One of the coins shorted out the battery
terminals, getting hot enough to make me dump out the contents of the
pocket in a hurry.  As far as the laser beam is concerned, the only
safety hazard is that you shouldn't shine the beam directly into
anyone's eyes (human or animal).  It could potentially focus down into
a concentrated enough point on the retina to cause a localized burn,
resulting in permanent damage.  Shining the unfocused beam onto
papers, skin, etc. doesn't do any damage.

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Rhonda - 22 Jan 2007 13:47 GMT
> As far as the laser beam is concerned, the only safety hazard is that
> you shouldn't shine the beam directly into anyone's eyes (human or
> animal).  It could potentially focus down into a concentrated enough
> point on the retina to cause a localized burn, resulting in permanent
> damage.

That's the reason I don't want them anywhere near our cats. How can you
tell a cat not to look directly at the beam?

A cat could whip around in the middle of playing and catch it in the
eye. I don't like those things at all because of that -- I won't chance it.

Rhonda
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Jan 2007 20:11 GMT
>  > As far as the laser beam is concerned, the only safety hazard is that
>  > you shouldn't shine the beam directly into anyone's eyes (human or
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> A cat could whip around in the middle of playing and catch it in the
> eye. I don't like those things at all because of that -- I won't chance it.

That's always been my reason for hesitating, too!  My cats
are so much faster than I, I'd be afraid I couldn't move the
point fast enought to prevent shining it in their eyes.  A
flashlight beam may not be quite so intriguing, but they'll
play with that, too, and there's no likelihood of blinding
them with it.
Rhonda - 23 Jan 2007 02:59 GMT
>>  > As far as the laser beam is concerned, the only safety hazard is that
>>  > you shouldn't shine the beam directly into anyone's eyes (human or
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> intriguing, but they'll play with that, too, and there's no likelihood
> of blinding them with it.

I never thought about a flashlight -- I'll have to try that on them.

Rhonda
Jeanne Hedge - 23 Jan 2007 04:45 GMT
>> That's always been my reason for hesitating, too!  My cats are so much
>> faster than I, I'd be afraid I couldn't move the point fast enought to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>I never thought about a flashlight -- I'll have to try that on them.

Tribble (RB) would go crazy chasing a flashlight beam around.  I'd
have him literally going in circles, practically chasing his tail
sometimes  : )

Jeanne Hedge

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Jan 2007 17:37 GMT
>>> That's the reason I don't want them anywhere near our cats. How can you
>>> tell a cat not to look directly at the beam?
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> I never thought about a flashlight -- I'll have to try that on them.

I hit on the idea when I noticed one of my cats following
and meowing at a moving spot of light on the the wall, then
realized it was stalking the reflection from a ring I was
wearing!  (I was reading, and every time I turned a page or
moved my hand, the spot would move.)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 23 Jan 2007 19:14 GMT
>> I never thought about a flashlight -- I'll have to try that on them.

> I hit on the idea when I noticed one of my cats following
> and meowing at a moving spot of light on the the wall, then
> realized it was stalking the reflection from a ring I was
> wearing!  (I was reading, and every time I turned a page or
> moved my hand, the spot would move.)

Today as I was saying goodbye to Smudge, a relection of light from my
car keys was moving around on the cement, near her. She didn't even
notice. :)

Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Jan 2007 23:06 GMT
>  >> I never thought about a flashlight -- I'll have to try that on them.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Joyce

Well, you know there's practically NOTHING one can say about
cats that applies to ALL of them! :-)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 24 Jan 2007 19:31 GMT
>> Today as I was saying goodbye to Smudge, a relection of light from my
>> car keys was moving around on the cement, near her. She didn't even
>> notice. :)

> Well, you know there's practically NOTHING one can say about
> cats that applies to ALL of them! :-)

That's certainly true. My comment above was focused mostly on how
uninterested in playing Smudge seems to be, rather than on how tempting
(or not) that particular game might be. Smudge doesn't play very much.
I don't know if that's due to age (she's almost 10), or that she feels
inhibitied with Roxy and Licky around, or maybe just that because she
goes outside and gets to do real hunting, she has no need for play.

Joyce
Marina - 23 Jan 2007 04:46 GMT
> That's always been my reason for hesitating, too!  My cats are so much
> faster than I, I'd be afraid I couldn't move the point fast enought to
> prevent shining it in their eyes.  A flashlight beam may not be quite so
> intriguing, but they'll play with that, too, and there's no likelihood
> of blinding them with it.

My Dad used to use his glasses to make a reflection on the floor for the
cats to chase. Old Thompson especially loved this.You need a bright
enough lamp in the right position, though.

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Nomen Nescio - 21 Jan 2007 22:20 GMT
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From: Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwards@comcast.net>

>->The laser device had been placed on an examination table in a
>->dermatologist's office on the 12th floor.

The fact that this occured in a dermatologist's office tends to make
me think that it wasn't a "laser pointer" but probably a surgical laser.
I'd bet that, to the press, ANY handheld laser is a "laser pointer" in
the same way that when an airplane stalls they think the engine quit.
badwilson - 22 Jan 2007 01:04 GMT
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> pointer" in the same way that when an airplane stalls they think the
> engine quit.

True.  Sadly, oh so very, very true.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 22 Jan 2007 01:13 GMT
>> The laser device had been placed on an examination table in a
>> dermatologist's office on the 12th floor.

> The fact that this occured in a dermatologist's office tends to make
> me think that it wasn't a "laser pointer" but probably a surgical laser.
> I'd bet that, to the press, ANY handheld laser is a "laser pointer" in
> the same way that when an airplane stalls they think the engine quit.

Good point. If I hear "laser pointer", I think of two places: an office
or an animal shelter. :)

Joyce

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