Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2004
O.T. - "Sleep Number" bed owners?
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 27 Oct 2004 17:15 GMT Does anyone here have one? My present mattress is twenty years old, so I must replace it with something. The sleep number bed seems ideal for my back problems, but they ARE awfully expensive, so I want to be sure before I invest in one. I know some of you have orthopaedic problems, arthritis, etc., and they are advertised as helpful for such things, so I was wondering if anyone here could give me first-hand information about these beds, and how well they survive in a feline-oriented household.
I think the air-chambers are well enough covered so I'd not have to worry about kitty claws puncturing them (as they have more than one camping-style air mattress). However, there's a sort of compressor that sits on the floor, with plastic air-hoses attached. The hoses are pretty thick - more like a garden hose than a thin plastic tube - but I'm wondering how well they survive in a catty household.
Do your cats leave them alone? Have you come up with any way to "cat-proof" them? If I don't have to worry about the effect the cat might have on it, I'd really like one - there's a twenty-year guarantee, and people I've spoken with who have one swear by them. However, none of them have cats! May I have your input, please?
Evelyn
James Horn - 27 Oct 2004 22:15 GMT We enjoy ours (the queen sized top of the line). The hoses have yet to be touched. I've had to repair the electric cord to one of the controllers though - Kelly had chewed it to destruction.
Jim (home to Shrimp, Chuchu, Sonny, Dawn, Midnight, Leo, Tommy, Flame, Kelly, Stormy, Cookie, Sam, Pillow, Chance, Tippy, Spirit, Noah, Spooks, Cathell and Cramer)
Christine Burel - 27 Oct 2004 23:35 GMT > We enjoy ours (the queen sized top of the line). The hoses have yet to be > touched. I've had to repair the electric cord to one of the controllers [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Kelly, Stormy, Cookie, Sam, Pillow, Chance, Tippy, Spirit, Noah, Spooks, > Cathell and Cramer) Wow! You have quiet a collection of cats -- any photos perhaps? Christine (who has Omar, Oreo, Midnight (!), Robin & Tucker)
James Horn - 02 Nov 2004 01:45 GMT > Wow! You have quiet a collection of cats -- any photos perhaps? > Christine (who has Omar, Oreo, Midnight (!), Robin & Tucker) Lotsa photos but not on the Web yet. You can see our original pride and joy, Duffy, at:
ftp://ftp.svn.net/pub/users/jimhorn/Duffy.JPG
He was half Somali and half Scottish Wildcat. Friends who had leopards and such referred to *him* as the "cat from Hell". He lived to over 15, the last 7+ years with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and was why Cardizem CD is often prescribed for that. A wonderful guy whom we miss dearly. Fierce and impossible for others, he was self assured and affectionate with us.
Best to all!
Jim
Karen Chuplis - 02 Nov 2004 05:24 GMT >> Wow! You have quiet a collection of cats -- any photos perhaps? >> Christine (who has Omar, Oreo, Midnight (!), Robin & Tucker) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Jim Wowee. Gorgeous.
Christine Burel - 03 Nov 2004 02:10 GMT What a beautiful cat! I'd love to hear more about Duffy and your other kitties. Christine
> > Wow! You have quiet a collection of cats -- any photos perhaps? > > Christine (who has Omar, Oreo, Midnight (!), Robin & Tucker) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Jim James Horn - 05 Nov 2004 01:15 GMT > What a beautiful cat! I'd love to hear more about Duffy and your other > kitties. > > > Christine (who has Omar, Oreo, Midnight (!), Robin & Tucker) You might like to know that we rescued a pair of barn cats from the county pound as they were about to be destroyed. One is a cloudy coated copper eyed beauty with a strong voice - "Stormy". Her classic tuxedo sister is "Cookie", named after Oreos. Both are very inquisitive, affectionate, and mother all the other cats.
About July 2003 we were driving very late when we screeched to a halt in the dark - a tiny black and white kitten was just sitting in the middle of a country road near us. When we got out to investigate, she ran to an abandoned egg hatchery - and halfway up its brick wall (!). Then she ran straight at our car where my wife, Celeste, talked to her and soon had her purring in her arms. With the mostly black coat (and white puff on the chest) plus the time we found her, she was named "Midnight". While put off having to deal with other cats at our home at first, she settled right in and often jumps / climbs up to my back as I enter the house, riding around on my shoulders to survey her domain.
So many kitties, so many stories (Chuchu came back with us from Kazakhstan with the four children we adopted last December - but that's another story).
Jim and the tribe
mlbriggs - 05 Nov 2004 01:51 GMT >> What a beautiful cat! I'd love to hear more about Duffy and your other >> kitties. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Jim and the tribe We are eager to hear all of your stories. MLB
Karen Chuplis - 05 Nov 2004 03:08 GMT >> What a beautiful cat! I'd love to hear more about Duffy and your other >> kitties. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Jim and the tribe Oh I want to hear that one!!
James Horn - 05 Nov 2004 19:47 GMT OK - regarding Chuchu...
We met three wonderful children in August 2001 who were visiting the US as guests of Kidsave International who was trying to find them an adoptive family. They captured our hearts and we started the adoption process. In December 2002 we learned that they had a younger half sister who we added to the process. Finally, in November 2003 we travelled to Karaganda, Kazakstan to finish the adoption of Maxim (now 13), Boolat (now Richard, 10), Sveta (now Katie, 7) and Zarina (now Teresa, 4).
While there we spent 6 weeks in an apartment in Karaganda on the 4th floor of a Soviet era 5 story walk-up concrete building. We delighted in being with and caring for our new children who stayed with us from our arrival. We also got to see much of the city and its culture together.
But after living with our many cats (and three dogs and four donkeys), the lack of animal company was obvious.
Shortly after arriving, one evening I heard a plaintive and insistent meowing outside our apartment's reinforced steel door. On looking into the stairwell outside it, I noted a small black cat in the cold (down to -30C / -25F while we were there). I put a plate of some extra food out for it which it obviously enjoyed. Soon it would come into the entry of the apartment and explore us, allowing some petting but she was leery of the children. She was relatively tiny and black with just a small little puff of white in the middle of her chest.
I found a source of cat food at a local market (Whiskas - but all the text on the box was in Russian). She not only preferred it but one day left a huge warm mound of her opinion in front of a nearby apartment that left her a plate of fish tails. She also made more frequent forays into our apartment, exploring every part of it and often taking an extended nap on someone's lap, purring happily.
It wasn't long that she was staying in the apartment full time. We found a litter box and litter along with other standard supplies (thank heavens for the tiny pet supply shop at the "Zoom" market!). We named her Chuchu which is close to the Russian for "a little bit".
But it would be cruel to dump her back outside when we left. And the children were attached to her (as were we). So a friend led us to the best veterinarian in town who gave her a complete medical exam and shots while apologizing for the costs involved - about US$7.50 total(!).
After the required 15 days after the shots were given, we returned to the vet again for the international passport and health certificates (about US$5 total). An hour at the local government office produced the rest of the paperwork needed. And a call to Lufthansa revealed that we could take her home on my ticket in an underseat carrier just like a handbag. If I paid them $150 for the privledge. Which I did.
During all this, we had the successful adoption court hearing (photo of us at http://www.svn.net/jimhorn - sorry the page is so out of date). Celeste fell on the icy sidewalks and broke both legs at the ankles. She returned to the US early to have the medical care - and four hour surgery - to deal with the fractures and complications. And the four children, Chuchu and I flew to Almaty, the former capital, to finish the paperwork and such to be able to come home.
During the week in Almaty, Chuchu came into heat. I had the pleasure (??) of having her wailing and calling in the middle of the night when we were trying to sleep. I was firmly reminded of why all our cats are neutered / spayed...
Finally with medical exams for the children and interviews at the US Consulate there done, we had our paperwork. Due to a national holiday and Christmas, all this ended up taking weeks longer than expected. But off to the airport where our guide / translator / friend Nick breezed us through Lufthansa check-in, security, customs, and so on. Right up until...
The bomb dropped. We were suddenly told that Chuchu's paperwork was "not in order" as it had been prepared more than three days before the flight. I pointed out that the folks who prepared it knew when we would leave and filled it out accordingly. But we were stronly informed that it wasn't correct and Chuchu would have to stay - with or without us.
We were polite but very upset - we weren't about to just abandon her at Almaty's airport! Nick agreed to take care of her for a month, get the paperwork redone, and send her back with the next American family to come through - a month later (and they were from Alaska!). We were making all these arrangements while the jet filled with its passengers without us and was getting ready to leave.
Suddenly Nick was called away. He soon returned and asked how important it was to us that we take Chuchu with us - and how much cash did I have? When I told him I had several hundred US dollars, he took $200 and soon returned with the news that the official in charge would override the problems.
Sure enough, we went back through the final inspection, were told Chuchu's paperwork was not in order - when suddenly a uniformed official appeared and told the inspector that everything was fine. We said our brief but sincere farewells to Nick and boarded the plane.
Chuchu travelled in her tiny carrier just fine. At transfer in Frankfurt, Germany, I peeked in her carrier to see how she was doing. She purred and happily climbed into my arms while I verified that her carrier was still clean. The children all begged to hold her but I declined, not wanting to have to chase a cat through Germany if one let her go.
All was fine until I moved to put her back in the carrier. . She immediately turned into a yowling, scratching and biting blur while I held on tight and finally got her into the carrier and the top closed. The childrens. eyes were even wider than mine when they saw the blood and damage on my hand (over 30 scratches and punctures from her claws and teeth).
But in she went. I ran off to a washroom to clean the many wounds and staunch the bleeding. Soon we were together again awaiting our next flight.
But first through security to meet US requirements. As we waited in line to use the X-ray system for carry-on items and the metal detector, a second line was opened and I was shooed through it while the children went through the first. As I was picking up my things at the end of the second system, the security people in the first line suddenly asked me in a disapproving voice if I would send one of my children through the X-ray. Of course not, I replied. Well then, they said, why had I allowed the children to put Chuchu.s carrier through the machine? I suspect they were embarrassed that they had insisted that the children put their carry-ons on the conveyor without first checking to see if they should do so. Their display showed a fine radiograph of our poor cat's skeleton. But she didn't seem to be concerned about it.
Again, like Midnight and others I was worried how she would deal with the cats already at home. They've gotten along beautifully. I often suspect that she knows she's survived the just-south-of-Siberia winters so anything here is a cakewalk.
She's seldom seen at night anymore as she's usually snuggled in one of the childrens' beds. We really cherish all five of our Kazak treasures! She's grown less skinny but still keeps a healthy weight. All four children are growing rapidly. Maxim, who is deaf, received a cochlear implant last month and had it turned on just yesterday. He is now delightedly going around hearing everything he can - and we are all speechless at that blessing. And so many other changes I could tell. But I don't mean to weary you with more for now.
Jim (proud dad)
Annie Wxill - 06 Nov 2004 00:05 GMT > OK - regarding Chuchu... ..>
> Jim (proud dad) What a touching story, and with a happy ending, too. Thank you for sharing.
Congratulations to you and to your family.
Annie
Tish Silberbauer - 06 Nov 2004 12:12 GMT A beautiful story Jim - brought tears to my eyes; what you and Celeste have done for the kids and Chuchu. Tish
>> OK - regarding Chuchu... >..> >> Jim (proud dad) Jo Firey - 06 Nov 2004 00:19 GMT You cannot know how much good it did my heart to read your post. My now adult children are adopted, one from Korea. I have a huge soft spot for animals and what we will go thru for their sake, which is why I'm on the group. And I am going deaf and will soon be scheduled for an implant. I'd been having a generally rough day, but now I'm thinking of you and your family and sniffing happy tears.
Jo
> OK - regarding Chuchu... > [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > > Jim (proud dad) James Horn - 06 Nov 2004 01:41 GMT > You cannot know how much good it did my heart to read your post. My now > adult children are adopted, one from Korea. I have a huge soft spot for > animals and what we will go thru for their sake, which is why I'm on the > group. And I am going deaf and will soon be scheduled for an implant. I'd > been having a generally rough day, but now I'm thinking of you and your > family and sniffing happy tears.
> Jo My pleasure, Jo! Best to you with your surgery - I got to talk to a 56 year old gent here who has gotten that and he's amazing. You'd never know he had it to talk to him as he listens and talks just like there was no problem. Amazing and wonderful!
And all our best to you and your family too -
Jim
Enfilade - 06 Nov 2004 14:52 GMT > You cannot know how much good it did my heart to read your post. My now > adult children are adopted, one from Korea. I have a huge soft spot for > animals and what we will go thru for their sake, which is why I'm on the > group. And I am going deaf and will soon be scheduled for an implant. I'd > been having a generally rough day, but now I'm thinking of you and your > family and sniffing happy tears. What a wonderful outcome, for the two of you, your four children, and Chuchu!
--Fil
Karen Chuplis - 06 Nov 2004 03:02 GMT What a marvelous story! And what a fine family you have :)
Tanada - 06 Nov 2004 04:52 GMT > Shortly after arriving, one evening I heard a plaintive and insistent > meowing outside our apartment's reinforced steel door. On looking into [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the children. She was relatively tiny and black with just a small little > puff of white in the middle of her chest. You're so blessed and so is your family. Thanks for both wonderful stories and welcome to the group.
Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Seven + Smokey or whatever his name is and Speedy the d-thing
Adrian - 06 Nov 2004 15:54 GMT > OK - regarding Chuchu... <snip>
That was a beautiful story, thanks for sharing.
 Signature Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat.
SUQKRT - 06 Nov 2004 21:26 GMT >OK - regarding Chuchu... > [quoted text clipped - 211 lines] > >Jim (proud dad) What an adventure, you're a major catlover to go through that. Oh the joys of Beauracracy! Suz Macmoosette Thank Heavens There's Only One =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=
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Jean Hobbs - 20 Nov 2004 10:16 GMT Oh James what a wonderful story, and what good people you and your wife must beyou sign off as proud Dad but my goodness, I think this whole group must be extremely proud of you both, the very best to you and your family, and your cats Jean.P. a very proud groupie.
> OK - regarding Chuchu... > [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] > > Jim (proud dad) James Horn - 29 Nov 2004 23:27 GMT Good heavens, thank you all for the nice replies. We're blessed beyond measure with our four wonderful children - and our twenty kitties - and two dogs, four donkeys, two guinea pigs....
We really enjoyed Thanksgiving which was one year to the day from the court's approval of the adoption. It was nice to make (and eat!) the traditional turkey dinner rather than potatoes, cabbage, and such. At home, not 6300 miles away.
Best wishes to all on the group for a fine Holiday season from us all!
Jim Horn and his tribe.
Christine Burel - 27 Oct 2004 23:33 GMT We've had a Select Comfort bed for about 5 years and it's the nicest gift DH and I ever got for ourselves -- I can't say enough good things about how comfortable they are -- I'd never go back to a regular bed. The beds are really sturdy and I don't think you'll have to worry about cats puncturing them -- you can always get whatever pillowtop mattress cushion you want, too. The only punctures problems we've had were when Midnight was first new in the household and was trying to dominate Shetra; she knew she couldn't get away with going after Shetra so she bit the air hoses. We got replacements from the company (to the accompaniment of much laughter on the phone when we told them why we needed replacements) without any problem--wasn't expensive; also Midnight has left them alone. Christine
> Does anyone here have one? My present mattress is twenty > years old, so I must replace it with something. The sleep [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Evelyn Jo Firey - 28 Oct 2004 05:53 GMT here is where we got ours
a bit cheaper and we love it
no problem with cats they like it too
http://tinyurl.com/6c6b7
jo
> Does anyone here have one? My present mattress is twenty years old, so I > must replace it with something. The sleep number bed seems ideal for my [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Evelyn O J - 28 Oct 2004 17:25 GMT EvelynVogtGamble wrote:
>My present mattress is twenty >years old, so I must replace it with something. The sleep >number bed seems ideal for my back problems, but they ARE >awfully expensive, so I want to be sure before I invest in >one. I need to keep both my trunk elevated (GERD) and my feet elevated (edema in my lower extremities) when I sleep, so my situation isn't typical, but let me suggest you look into a mechanical bed before making a final decision. My back is only very rarely stiff when I wake up and there are some models available at reasonable prices if you shop around.
Regards and Purrs, O J
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Oct 2004 02:06 GMT > EvelynVogtGamble wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > wake up and there are some models available at reasonable prices if > you shop around. Thanks for the suggestion, but unlike you I HATE "elevated" beds, and always find sleep difficult if my body is not on a level. The best sleep I've enjoyed in recent years has been on trips to Europe, where the hotel mattresses seem to be EXTRA firm, and you can snuggle into a down comforter in a duvet cover that's not tucked under the mattress.
At present I have a platform bed (no box-spring), and my inner-spring mattress was fine when new, but it has softened with the years. When I tried the sleep-number bed in the store, my number was about 70 (and I suspect I might like it even firmer in actual use). It's soft beds that are a problem for me. I'd have no difficulty with a sleeping bag and air mattress on the floor, If I could get DOWN there anymore! One big advantage of the sleep number is that you can change the degree of firmness at will - you're not locked into it. (They do HAVE adjustable bed-bases for those who like them - but it's the revolutionary mattress concept that interests me.)
Linda Terrell - 29 Oct 2004 16:45 GMT
> Thanks for the suggestion, but unlike you I HATE "elevated" > beds, and always find sleep difficult if my body is not on a [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > those who like them - but it's the revolutionary mattress > concept that interests me.) I got a sleep number bed last February. Love it. I sleep at #100 because of my back. Rarely wake sore.
LT
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