Hello all,
I've posted a few times on this forum for advice on my crazy and
unpredictable cat, Panguitch. Sorry I'm not a better forum member -
it's hard to keep up with all of the posts!
Panguitch has a history of sporadically attacking me if he has pent up
energy or if I try to make him do something he doesn't want to do. (ex:
brushing his teeth, trimming his claws, bringing him inside) Panguitch
is a 1 year 9mos old neutered domestic short hair. He spends a few
hours outside each day after I get home from work. During the day, he
has his littermate, Elfie-Welfie, to play with. Also, he has more toys
than a cat could dream of. Also, I play with both him and his sister
every night. I make every effort to see that he gets plenty of
excercise.
Panguitch's last checkup was completely normal. I mentioned his
occasional agressive behavior to the vet and he recommended that I give
him extra outdoor time, leave him extra toys, etc. About a week after I
implemented the extra time outside and extra toys, Panguitch decided to
attack me while I was sitting at my computer. He jumped at my face and
I ended up with a black eye. (luckily there were no scratches.) It was
like getting hit with an 11 pound furry rock!!!
After this event, my vet referred me to a behaviorist and did not
suggest drugging Panguitch.
Fast forward to yesterday - Panguitch had hours and hours of playtime
yesterday. It was getting dark and I wanted him to come inside. So, I
picked him up and he reached out and clawed my face. It was terrifying!
Luckily, the scratches aren't too bad. He did slash my upper lip. As I
am a professional flutist, this is going to make playing a bit
difficult this week.
My questions are:
1) Has anyone used a behaviorist on their cat before? I'm not sure I
believe it could help, so I haven't consulted the behaviorist
recommended by my vet. It would be horribly expensive and I have doubts
that a cat would respond to a behaviorist.
2) How dangerous is it to drug cats? Are there any websites with
information/studies on this? I can't risk this happening again and I'm
not willing to declaw my cat. I'm not sure if soft paws caps would help
much either... he might become enraged if he can't climb trees.
Matthew - 08 Jan 2007 18:39 GMT
Have you tried feliway
> Hello all,
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> not willing to declaw my cat. I'm not sure if soft paws caps would help
> much either... he might become enraged if he can't climb trees.
Dan M - 08 Jan 2007 18:42 GMT
> Have you tried feliway
Rescue Remedy might help too.
Sorry, no direct experience with a behaviorist. I believe others on this
group have posted of success giving their cats antidepressants.
Jo Firey - 08 Jan 2007 18:53 GMT
> Hello all,
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> not willing to declaw my cat. I'm not sure if soft paws caps would help
> much either... he might become enraged if he can't climb trees.
My wild guess is that rather than needing more stimulation, he might need
less. Does he seem hyper other than the attacks?
I'd start with feliway. It isn't a drug you give him, and it helps some
cats to relax.
My sweetie Jake bites if he is over excited. I have to either not play
rough with him, which he loves a little bit of, or know when to get out of
the way of fangs and claws.
I don't play rough with him if he seems overexcited. It wouldn't be fair
since I know he can't deal with it.
Panguitch may need some quiet time indoors and away from his littermate to
help him to learn to relax.
Rubbing a cats face below their eyes and back to their ears sometimes helps
them to relax.
Jo
Shel-hed - 08 Jan 2007 19:47 GMT
>Hello all,
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>Panguitch has a history of sporadically attacking me if he has pent up
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There are groups for this stuff. Here is one-
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.pets.cats.health+behav?lnk=gschg&hl=en
dberry@mitre.org - 08 Jan 2007 21:48 GMT
Tufts Vet School has a "remote" animal behavior consultation service.
It is kind of
expensive, but they have a good behaviorist program there. I get their
newsletter.
Take a look at:
http://www.tufts.edu/vet/behavior/petfax.shtml
Debbie
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> not willing to declaw my cat. I'm not sure if soft paws caps would help
> much either... he might become enraged if he can't climb trees.
maryannk - 09 Jan 2007 01:16 GMT
Thanks to everyone for the advice! Actually, I've tried posting in the
health & behavior forum before and all I got was silly advice like "get
your cat some boxing gloves to soften the blow!" People in this forum
seem very helpful and understanding.
The Tufts remote program actually looks cheaper than what some people
charge around here for in-home visits. I may consider this. Also, I
emailed the rescue organization that I adopted my cats from and they
provide some behavioral support.
Question about feliway - does it smell funny? Will my house take on a
strange odor if I use it, or will the cats be the only ones that
notice? It looks reasonably priced and I am planning to pick up a
bottle at the pet store tomorrow.
Thanks again. I'll keep everyone updated.
> Tufts Vet School has a "remote" animal behavior consultation service.
> It is kind of
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Matthew - 09 Jan 2007 01:58 GMT
Furballs will be the only ones to notice
> Thanks to everyone for the advice! Actually, I've tried posting in the
> health & behavior forum before and all I got was silly advice like "get
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>> > not willing to declaw my cat. I'm not sure if soft paws caps would help
>> > much either... he might become enraged if he can't climb trees.
Karen AKA Kajikit - 09 Jan 2007 02:08 GMT
>Thanks to everyone for the advice! Actually, I've tried posting in the
>health & behavior forum before and all I got was silly advice like "get
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>Thanks again. I'll keep everyone updated.
Feliway has no odour at all... it looks like water to me! Be warned -
it doesn't work for all cats. Our three just looked at it and said
'what the heck is THAT?' and went on squabbling...
From your first post it sounds to me like your cat is getting way
overexcited and overstimulated, so the answer isn't to play with it
MORE - it's to give it more quiet time and to try to calm it down in
some way... gentle stroking rather than tummy-tickling, etc. It may
grow out of the bad behaviour, but then again it may not. The
behaviourist sounds like a good idea to me - they can give you some
ideas for how to help kitty anyway...