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Christina Websell - 02 Jan 2007 19:25 GMT
I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
owner needs to renew it asap.

Tweed
Chris Havlicek - 02 Jan 2007 19:47 GMT
Hi Christina -

Just saw a post from Suz dated today, and I was logged in to it right
around Christmas.  What URL did you use to log in?

Purrs-

Chris

> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
> owner needs to renew it asap.
>
> Tweed
Christina Websell - 02 Jan 2007 20:29 GMT
> Hi Christina -
>
> Just saw a post from Suz dated today, and I was logged in to it right
> around Christmas.  What URL did you use to log in?

Have a look at this:
http://www.catslaves.org/index.html

It told me the domain name had expired.  I was not able to sign in :-(

Tweed
Jeanne - 02 Jan 2007 20:03 GMT
> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
> owner needs to renew it asap.
>
> Tweed

Tweed,

Catslaves is a Yahoo group, so there's no domain to expire:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/catslaves/

Since I get my messages through email, I don't often visit the
Catslaves message board itself. HOWEVER, the "tech" part of the above
URL is new to me. Anyone know when that first appeared?

(the old http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catslaves/ will still get you
there too)

Jeanne Hedge
posting via Google groups
Christina Websell - 02 Jan 2007 20:37 GMT
>> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
>> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> (the old http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catslaves/ will still get you
> there too)

Thanks for these links, but there is still cause for concern if there is an
error message" like wot I got." ;-)

Tweed
MaryL - 02 Jan 2007 20:22 GMT
> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
> owner needs to renew it asap.
>
> Tweed

Tweed,

Catslaves is still active.  I have seen several new messages.  I suggest
that you contact Yowie about this (or I will be glad to do it for you if you
want me to).

MaryL
Christina Websell - 02 Jan 2007 21:06 GMT
>> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
>> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> that you contact Yowie about this (or I will be glad to do it for you if
> you want me to).

Yes, please do, Mary.  Thanks.

Tweed
MaryL - 02 Jan 2007 20:22 GMT
> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
> owner needs to renew it asap.
>
> Tweed

Tweed,

Catslaves is still active.  I have seen several new messages.  I suggest
that you contact Yowie about this (or I will be glad to do it for you if you
want me to).

MaryL
Karen AKA Kajikit - 02 Jan 2007 20:45 GMT
>> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
>> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>that you contact Yowie about this (or I will be glad to do it for you if you
>want me to).

I assume that Christina is talking about the catslaves WEBSITE that
John and I made... the fact that nobody even knows it existed shows
that we did the right thing in deleting it.
Chris Havlicek - 02 Jan 2007 21:47 GMT
>>> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
>>> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> John and I made... the fact that nobody even knows it existed shows
> that we did the right thing in deleting it.
Hi Karen -

Um...my bad, actually.  I made the assumption that Christina was trying
to get to the group, not the web site.  I knew about it, just had the
group foremost in memory because I get the messages from it.

Purrs-

Chris
Yowie - 02 Jan 2007 22:08 GMT
>>> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a
>>> message
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> John and I made... the fact that nobody even knows it existed shows
> that we did the right thing in deleting it.

I knew it existed... jut didn't get to reply before you did :-)

Yowie
MaryL - 02 Jan 2007 23:58 GMT
>>>> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a
>>>> message
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Yowie

Yowie, I told Christina I would contact you.  I just got home and see that
she requested I follow through.  However, I assumed that she was talking
about the Catslaves group formed through Yahoo.  I'll check with her.

MaryL
Karen AKA Kajikit - 02 Jan 2007 20:44 GMT
>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
>that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
>owner needs to renew it asap.

Yes, the Catslaves domain name is no more... we're trying to save for
a house and the site didn't get nearly enough traffic to be worth
maintaining a seperate domain. (not to mention that it was hideously
out-of-date, and when I asked people for new stuff to put on it a few
years ago, nobody gave me anything...)
So we let it expire because we didn't think anyone would notice. I had
a visitor counter for it and on a good week it got four visits!
Christina Websell - 02 Jan 2007 21:02 GMT
>>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
>>that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> So we let it expire because we didn't think anyone would notice. I had
> a visitor counter for it and on a good week it got four visits!

Well, please put it back.  I noticed.

Tweed
Karen AKA Kajikit - 02 Jan 2007 23:28 GMT
>>>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
>>>that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Well, please put it back.  I noticed.

It's not that simple... it costs money that we don't have to spare. If
someone else wants to take it over I'd be happy to send them
everything that was up there...
alphonze@mail.com - 03 Jan 2007 20:39 GMT
> It's not that simple... it costs money that we don't have to spare. If
> someone else wants to take it over I'd be happy to send them
> everything that was up there...

Not one to boast, but I've got an enormous web server ;)

Contact me off list; I'm quite happy to re-register and host Catslaves
the web site.

Cheers
Al
(richard at stagg dot hk)
MaryL - 03 Jan 2007 00:00 GMT
>>>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
>>>that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Tweed

Hi Christina,

I assumed that you meant the Catslaves group formed through Yahoo, and now I
see that wasn't what you meant.  Well, it seems that you have received the
information you needed -- although it wasn't what you wanted!

MaryL
Yowie - 03 Jan 2007 00:47 GMT
> >>>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
> >>>that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> see that wasn't what you meant.  Well, it seems that you have received the
> information you needed -- although it wasn't what you wanted!

Maybe Mark Edwards can host it with the FAQ?

Yowie
Takayuki - 03 Jan 2007 03:01 GMT
>Maybe Mark Edwards can host it with the FAQ?

If Karen and Mark are willing, I think that's a very fine idea.
Without the domain registration fee, hosting a small, static, low
traffic site could be done essentially for free.
Mark Edwards - 03 Jan 2007 03:09 GMT
[catslaves]

No cluons were harmed when "Yowie"
<yowie9644.DIESPAMDIE@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>Maybe Mark Edwards can host it with the FAQ?

I think I can handle the FAQ, but not Catslaves too.

Hugs and Purrs,
Mark Edwards
Signature

Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request

Pat - 03 Jan 2007 06:19 GMT
> I think I can handle the FAQ, but not Catslaves too.

I someone wants to pay for the domain registration, I've got server space I
can make available.
Yowie - 03 Jan 2007 11:09 GMT
> [catslaves]
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I think I can handle the FAQ, but not Catslaves too.

No, not catslaves (small c) the yahoo group, but Catslaves (big C) the web
page.

Catslaves the web page was a lovly web page, with lot sof stuff about
kitties and alink to the FAQ and to the yahoo group. Correct me if I'm
wrong, but I don't think it needed alot of maintanence. Sort of 'set and
forget', with the occasional addition of another kitty picture or slave
face.

Karen, Mark, please talk.

Yowie
Christina Websell - 03 Jan 2007 20:05 GMT
>>>>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a
>>>>message
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> MaryL

I did mean that.  I accessed Catslaves via the website link.  It would be a
pity if the Catslaves website didn't show up on the web in case good
catslaves would like to join in.

Tweed
MaryL - 03 Jan 2007 21:29 GMT
>>>>>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a
>>>>>message
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Tweed

Christina,

I sent a message to yowie.  I'm a bit confused now because of the name
similarity between the two groups, but perhaps she can help.

MaryL
Yowie - 03 Jan 2007 21:34 GMT
>>>>>>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a
>>>>>>message
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> I sent a message to yowie.  I'm a bit confused now because of the name
> similarity between the two groups, but perhaps she can help.

The direct URL for catslaves the yahoo group is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catslaves

Hope that helps

Yowie
Yowie - 03 Jan 2007 23:22 GMT
> >>>>>>I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a
> >>>>>>message
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
> Hope that helps

I just sent out all the information I could to catslaves *and* to your
individual e-mail addies (I hope).  I can access tthe above URL both at home
and at work. Best I can suggest is to clear out the cookies and history
files, try that link again, and press 'F5' if it still isn't working.

If it still appears down to Tweed whilst other people don't seem to be
having any problem, then I don't know what else to suggest. What I can do is
change the mail settings so that Tweed receives the catslaves messages via
e-mail (either individually or as a daily digest) rather than having to read
them off the web page. Otherwise, its a problem that is beyond my abilities
to help with, sorry.

Yowie
Christina Websell - 06 Jan 2007 20:06 GMT
>>>>>>>> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in
>>>>>>>> there's a message
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> and history files, try that link again, and press 'F5' if it still
> isn't working.

I clear out cookies and history almost every day.

> If it still appears down to Tweed whilst other people don't seem to be
> having any problem, then I don't know what else to suggest. What I
> can do is change the mail settings so that Tweed receives the
> catslaves messages via e-mail (either individually or as a daily
> digest) rather than having to read them off the web page. Otherwise,
> its a problem that is beyond my abilities to help with, sorry.

I'll have another go at it, don't want to be a nuisance quite yet ;-)

Tweed
Jeanne Hedge - 06 Jan 2007 20:13 GMT
>> If it still appears down to Tweed whilst other people don't seem to be
>> having any problem, then I don't know what else to suggest. What I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>I'll have another go at it, don't want to be a nuisance quite yet ;-)

I'm still confused. Is Tweed trying to access the Catslaves Yahoo
group (the one with the mailing list) or the Catslaves website (which
apparently has a defunct domain name, and people are trying to find a
new home to resurrect it at)?

Jeanne Hedge

============
http://www.jhedge.com
Christina Websell - 07 Jan 2007 17:18 GMT
>>> If it still appears down to Tweed whilst other people don't seem to be
>>> having any problem, then I don't know what else to suggest. What I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> apparently has a defunct domain name, and people are trying to find a
> new home to resurrect it at)?

I've always accessed the Catslaves Yahoo group by searching on "catslaves"
finding the webpage and using the link on there.  I've found another way of
accessing it now, but it's a bit longwinded.

Tweed
Takayuki - 07 Jan 2007 19:29 GMT
>> I'm still confused. Is Tweed trying to access the Catslaves Yahoo
>> group (the one with the mailing list) or the Catslaves website (which
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>finding the webpage and using the link on there.  I've found another way of
>accessing it now, but it's a bit longwinded.

Ah, I misunderstood you before, but I think I understand now.  If you
haven't already, you should bookmark
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/catslaves/ so that it's in your
"Favorites" or "Bookmarks" list.

You've probably noticed that others who have posted to this thread
have been making a strong distinction between the Yahoo group named
"Catslaves", and Karen and John's cat website, which is similarly
called "catslaves".  That's because they are independent entities.

Yahoo has a "groups" feature, which Vicky used in 2001 to create a
chat and picture archive group called "Catslaves", named after the
term we commonly use in RPCA.  In 2003, Karen and John registered the
"catslaves.org" domain, where they set up a website with cat related
information.  As with most websites, it had links to various other
sites, one of which was the catslaves Yahoo group.

Karen and John noticed that traffic to catslaves.org had gotten very
low, so they decided not to renew the "catslaves.org" domain.  Keeping
a domain name typically costs an annual fee.  This had nothing to do
with the Catslaves Yahoo group, which was why we were a bit confused
about the problem you were reporting.
MaryL - 04 Jan 2007 23:17 GMT
> I've not read it for a while and when I went to sign in there's a message
> that says that the domain name expired on 22 December, is on hold and the
> owner needs to renew it asap.
>
> Tweed

Tweed,

Yowie tried to contact you, but her email bounced back.  I will include a
copy of her message under my sig.  I hope this helps.

MaryL

Hi Mary & Tweed (I hope)

Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing, we are all talking
about the web interface for this here Catslaves yahoogroup, yes?

As far as I know, going to the URL

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catslaves

still works. However I have been told that there's a new URL :

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/catslaves/

That should also work.

That gets you into the front page. You'll need to sign in before you can see
the messages and post messages. As far as I can see, Tweed is still a
member... using 'uk_tweed' as her sign in.

Its working for me from both home and here at work. If its still not
working, may I humby suggest that the cookies & history file get cleaned out
before trying the above URLS again, and hitting 'F5' (refresh)  if they are
still causing errors.

If they still dont work after that, I"m not sure that there's a whole lot I
can do to help. I can change people's settings so that they can receive the
messages via e-mail rather than reading them off the web page (either
individually or as 'daily digests') but I don't otherwise know what to do.

Sorry,

Vicky

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