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Can you USA-ers answer a question? (OT)
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meeee - 28 Dec 2006 11:07 GMT Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and always wondered why....are you not allowed white shoes after Labour Day?? It's piqued my interest for ages, but I keep forgetting to ask. We have no such custom I've ever heard of down under. (we have our own weird customs involving racing strange creatures such as cockroaches, camels, toads and rubber ducks)
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 28 Dec 2006 11:20 GMT > Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and always > wondered why....are you not allowed white shoes after Labour Day?? It's > piqued my interest for ages, but I keep forgetting to ask. It's just a fashion convention, and a mostly outmoded one at that. Saying they're "not allowed" is drastically overstating the case. :)
The custom was that one should wear white shoes only during the summer, which officially starts on Memorial Day (holiday commemorating service people killed in war), which is at the end of May, and ends on Labor Day, which is at the beginning of September. In some circles, it was seen as a faux pas (perhaps literally :)) to wear white shoes in the wrong season.
I've always thought it was a weird and non-useful tradition, so I've never paid much attention to it. But I don't think it was something observed much by my generation (baby boom) - my mother used to remark about it, at first seriously, but later, more facetiously.
Joyce
meeee - 28 Dec 2006 12:03 GMT > > Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and > > always [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joyce Ah now I understand!! So it's an etiquette type thing that 'people like us' observe. That's very interesting, you've satisfied my curiosity! Thanks :)
kilikini - 28 Dec 2006 13:27 GMT >>> Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and >>> always [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > like us' observe. That's very interesting, you've satisfied my > curiosity! Thanks :) I also think it depends upon your climate. In Hawaii, where it's warm all year-round, anything goes. In a colder climate, say....Minnesota, dark clothes in winter used to be the "norm". With dark clothes, you wear dark shoes. I agree with Joyce, that it's a completely outdated tradition.
kili
CatNipped - 28 Dec 2006 14:30 GMT >>>> Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and >>>> always [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > kili Plus, in colder climates, all the slush and mud caused by melting snow showed up on white shoes much more than dark shoes. I watch "What Not To Wear" on the Lifetime channel (they're supposed to be the last word on what's fashionable and what's not) and they say that this fashion "rule" is no longer in effect.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Pat - 29 Dec 2006 02:26 GMT > I also think it depends upon your climate. In Hawaii, where it's warm all > year-round, anything goes. In a colder climate, say....Minnesota, dark > clothes in winter used to be the "norm". With dark clothes, you wear dark > shoes. What, is it no longer cold in Minnesota in the winter, or did dark clothes stop keeping heat in better???
Jo Firey - 29 Dec 2006 04:29 GMT >> I also think it depends upon your climate. In Hawaii, where it's warm >> all [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > What, is it no longer cold in Minnesota in the winter, or did dark clothes > stop keeping heat in better??? Back before wash and wear, it was a lot harder to keep warm winter clothes looking clean. Dark clothes just don't show the dirt the way lighter ones do.
Jo
CatNipped - 29 Dec 2006 14:30 GMT >>> I also think it depends upon your climate. In Hawaii, where it's warm >>> all [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jo Also, dark colors absorb and hold heat from sunlight and light colors reflect it away.
Hugs,
CatNipped
sriddles@aol.com - 28 Dec 2006 23:06 GMT > > Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and always > > wondered why....are you not allowed white shoes after Labour Day?? It's [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joyce Heh. In my growing up years, Easter was the official date the white shoes could come out, but MUST be closeted along with straw & white handbags the moment Labor Day was over. I assume this also applied to men, who wore those hideous white shoes and belts in the late 60's-70's. I still can't wear white shoes or sandals after Labor Day. Like Erma Bombeck once said, I never really knew exactly what would happen, but I rather fancied Macy's would fly their flag at half-mast or something.
Sherry
meeee - 28 Dec 2006 23:17 GMT >> > Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and >> always [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Sherry Lol ultimate Fashion Faux Pas!!
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 28 Dec 2006 18:57 GMT > Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and always > wondered why....are you not allowed white shoes after Labour Day?? It's > piqued my interest for ages, but I keep forgetting to ask. We have no such > custom I've ever heard of down under. (we have our own weird customs > involving racing strange creatures such as cockroaches, camels, toads and > rubber ducks) Ummm.... "not ALLOWED"???? SFAIK, that's one of the outmoded fashion dos-and-don'ts that most people observe only if they feel like it. (They got around the one about not wearing white clothing - other than shirts - by inventing a shade called "winter white".)
There may have been a practical reason for the white shoe edict, simply in the interests of keeping them reasonably clean. Cold weather can set in fairly early in some parts of the U.S., it tends to rain a lot in the autumn, and back in the days when coal was the main source of fuel for heating buildings, rain + soot from coal smoke = very dirty shoes.
Baha - 28 Dec 2006 22:05 GMT My guess is that the custom originated in a part of the country where autumn gets chilly and wet, and wearing white shoes is asking for trouble when it's muddy. I also think it started with shoes and then extended to anything else white.
Blessed be, Baha
>Sorry to be a pest, but i've heard references to this for ages and always >wondered why....are you not allowed white shoes after Labour Day?? It's >piqued my interest for ages, but I keep forgetting to ask. We have no such >custom I've ever heard of down under. (we have our own weird customs >involving racing strange creatures such as cockroaches, camels, toads and >rubber ducks) meeee - 28 Dec 2006 22:23 GMT Ah I understand now. So your Labour Day is kind of the end of summer/beginning of mud and unpleasantness. I thought it must be some kind of strange political statement ;)!! Labour Day in Oz is about politics so hence my confusion...I can understand the mud/white shoes problem....having very little snow or mud here it's not an issue!! Thanks, everyone :)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 28 Dec 2006 22:46 GMT > Ah I understand now. So your Labour Day is kind of the end of > summer/beginning of mud and unpleasantness. I thought it must be some kind > of strange political statement ;)!! Labour Day in Oz is about politics so > hence my confusion...I can understand the mud/white shoes problem....having > very little snow or mud here it's not an issue!! Thanks, everyone :) Once upon a time, Labor Day was a political holiday in the US, too. But, as with all holidays in the US, it has become mostly an excuse to (1) have a long weekend, (2) spend money, (3) go on vacation, and (4) spend money. Oh, did I mention spend money, too? :)
Joyce
meeee - 28 Dec 2006 23:16 GMT > > Ah I understand now. So your Labour Day is kind of the end of > > summer/beginning of mud and unpleasantness. I thought it must be some [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Joyce Lol sounds like here! Any excuse for a long weekend!!
Baha - 29 Dec 2006 17:18 GMT And drink. You forgot the beer.
Blessed be, Baha
> > Ah I understand now. So your Labour Day is kind of the end of > > summer/beginning of mud and unpleasantness. I thought it must be some kind [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Joyce Jane - 29 Dec 2006 21:34 GMT > > Ah I understand now. So your Labour Day is kind of the end of > > summer/beginning of mud and unpleasantness. I thought it must be some kind [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Joyce Don't forget the alcohol, Joyce. Any holiday in the good old US of A is an excuse to drink. Heck, we'll even import holidays from other countrys in order to have an excuse to drink! (Cinco du Mayo, anyone?)
Yeah, I don't drink. Does it show?
Jane
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 30 Dec 2006 00:01 GMT >> Once upon a time, Labor Day was a political holiday in the US, too. >> But, as with all holidays in the US, it has become mostly an excuse >> to (1) have a long weekend, (2) spend money, (3) go on vacation, and >> (4) spend money. Oh, did I mention spend money, too? :)
> Don't forget the alcohol, Joyce. Any holiday in the good old US of A > is an excuse to drink. Heck, we'll even import holidays from other > countrys in order to have an excuse to drink! (Cinco du Mayo, anyone?) LOL! Good point, especially since both you and Baha mentioned it. Very important aspect of holidays here. Speaking of which, the biggest drunken- excess holiday in the year is just around the corner. Be careful on the roads if you go out!
Joyce
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 29 Dec 2006 19:35 GMT Labour Day in Oz is about politics so
> hence my confusion I think it's about politics in most of Europe, too (and is celebrated on May Day rather than the first Monday in September). That makes sense, because it was originally associated with the Labour Movement (i.e. organizing into labour unions). I think it had the same meaning in the U.S., once upon a time - maybe it will again, since the unions no longer offer working people the protection they once did.
meeee - 02 Jan 2007 20:27 GMT > Labour Day in Oz is about politics so >> hence my confusion [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > U.S., once upon a time - maybe it will again, since the unions no longer > offer working people the protection they once did. Our unions here are quite active. Unfortunately they're just as militant with members as they are with employers....DH has been getting letters threatening him with legal action if he doesn't pay another year's subscription. He thought it would expire if he didn't pay it. Now they tell us he has to be a paid member in order to cancel his subscription. And if he doesn't do it that way, they'll take us to court. :( I'm looking into the legality of what they're doing, but not holding out much hope.
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