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kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 13:11 GMT
As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
don't care for that name, but we'll work that out later.  In any case, we're
going to have 4 cats in our tiny 800 square foot house; more zoomies than we
need, but so be it.

Well, to add more madness to the bunch, we're acquiring a 4 month old black
and white male rat, tonight, named Mickey.

Allan has always loved rats and used to have lots of them as pets in the
past.  He talks about how smart and clean they are, how loving they are, how
fun they are.  Sure, it's going to be lots of fun, for me, with a rat and 4
cats in the house.  Sigh.

He thinks he can keep it under control and we'll give it a shot.  The rat is
coming to us free of charge, the cage is free, food is free, all we have to
do is pick him up tonight around 7:00 pm.

Dang it all, though, are we becoming a zoo?  How do we afford all this?
Well, if my husband is happy and has his ideal pet (although he ADORES cats,
don't get me wrong!), who am I to say no?  I'm just questioning 4 cats and a
rat in the same small quarters.  Can they get along?  Does anyone else have
pet mice or a pet rat and can give me some advice????????

kili
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Adrian A - 18 Dec 2006 14:03 GMT
> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already
> been calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big
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> kili

No advice, just good luck purrs.
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kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 15:14 GMT
> > As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already
> > been calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big
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> > Well, to add more madness to the bunch, we're acquiring a 4 month old
> > black and white male rat, tonight, named Mickey.

> No advice, just good luck purrs.
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Thanks!  I hope we don't need them and it will all be okay.

kili
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Jack Campin - bogus address - 18 Dec 2006 14:09 GMT
> I'm just questioning 4 cats and a rat in the same small quarters.
> Can they get along?  Does anyone else have pet mice or a pet rat
> and can give me some advice????????

We have had them at the same time, but we didn't trust the cats alone
with a rat.

One of the few times we made a mistake was when we left the lid off
the aquarium the rat lived in when Muriel was in the room.  She jumped
into it, ignored the rat, munched her way through its food and jumped
out again before we could intervene.

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kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 15:08 GMT
> > I'm just questioning 4 cats and a rat in the same small quarters.
> > Can they get along?  Does anyone else have pet mice or a pet rat
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> into it, ignored the rat, munched her way through its food and jumped
> out again before we could intervene.

Well, I guess that's positive.......  :~)

kili
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Stormmee - 18 Dec 2006 14:12 GMT
no advice but best wishes, Lee
> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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Karen - 18 Dec 2006 14:30 GMT
Well gosh. I guess it'll take you mind off of things!!! Good luck and keep
us posted. Sounds a little nerve wracking to me :D

> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 15:10 GMT
> Well gosh. I guess it'll take you mind off of things!!! Good luck and keep
> us posted. Sounds a little nerve wracking to me :D

Me too!!!!!!!!!!!  :-D   That's why I'm questioning the whole deal.

kili
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Jo Firey - 18 Dec 2006 16:55 GMT
> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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>
> kili

My daughter has done it.  Right now she has a rat and two cats.  Space isn't
as much trouble as time.  She is gone a lot.

Jo
kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 19:53 GMT
> > As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> > calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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>
> Jo

Does she let the rat out with the cats?  I guess that's kind of my main
question.

kili
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Jo Firey - 18 Dec 2006 21:27 GMT
>> > As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already
> been
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> kili
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I'm not sure to what extent.  I know my grandson gets the rat out of the
cage and walks around with it on his head or shoulder around the cats.  The
cats pretend not to see it.

Jo
mlbriggs - 18 Dec 2006 18:17 GMT
> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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>
> kili

Purrs that the cats don't invite the rat to (be) lunch.  Best wishes.  
MLB
kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 19:53 GMT
> Purrs that the cats don't invite the rat to (be) lunch.  Best wishes.
> MLB

Thanks!

kili
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Dec 2006 18:32 GMT
> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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> rat in the same small quarters.  Can they get along?  Does anyone else have
> pet mice or a pet rat and can give me some advice????????

I think it depends upon the individual cats, but I'd suggest
the rat resign itself to being securely caged at all times -
simply for its own self-preservation!

> kili
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kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 19:55 GMT
> I think it depends upon the individual cats, but I'd suggest
> the rat resign itself to being securely caged at all times -
> simply for its own self-preservation!

I would agree with you.  Tonight is pick-up-rat night.  We shall see how the
cats react to the smell of it under the bedroom door to begin with.

Shoots, Jill has a bird and a cat and her household works.  This shouldn't
be any more difficult.  Right?

kili
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 18 Dec 2006 23:21 GMT
>>I think it depends upon the individual cats, but I'd suggest
>>the rat resign itself to being securely caged at all times -
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> Shoots, Jill has a bird and a cat and her household works.  This shouldn't
> be any more difficult.  Right?

True, but I don't think Peaches is allowed to fly free when
Persia is in the room!
Joy - 18 Dec 2006 21:07 GMT
> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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I'm sure Furbie will tell you his/her name.  We once acquired a kitten
(invited in by one of our cats) that I wanted to name Half Pint.  I had
several reasons for this.  My late husband was a rather large man who sang
Barbershop.  He belonged to a quartet with three other large men.  They
called their quartet the Half Ton of Harmony.  Herbie purred up a storm.  I
have always referred to purring as singing, so with a tiny kitten who sang a
lot, it wasn't a great stretch to come up with Half Pint of Harmony, or Half
Pint for short.  My husband and kids didn't like that name, but didn't come
up with anything better.   I usually ended up being the one to come up with
names for our pets.  Anyway, one night Half Pint was snuggling up against my
head and purring like crazy.  I said, "Oh, you little love bug!" and
immediately realized that his name was Herbie.

Joy
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Dec 2006 21:52 GMT
> My late husband was a rather large man who sang Barbershop.  He
> belonged to a quartet with three other large men.  They called their
> quartet the Half Ton of Harmony.

LOL!! That's clever.

Not about cats or rats, but I just had to comment on that.

Joyce
kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 21:58 GMT
> I'm sure Furbie will tell you his/her name.  We once acquired a kitten
> (invited in by one of our cats) that I wanted to name Half Pint.  I had
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>
> Joy

That's kind of what happened with Chloe!  She was a tiny little critter,
maybe 4 weeks old, wanted in (her mom had her kittens in our shed), I let
her in, she snuggled with me and the word Chloe just popped into my head.
When she was weaned and she stayed, the name stuck.

Furbie, however, doesn't stick.  I just call her pretty girl, for now.

kili
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Lesley - 18 Dec 2006 23:57 GMT
I let
> her in, she snuggled with me and the word Chloe just popped into my head.
> When she was weaned and she stayed, the name stuck.

Dave wanted to call Isis (RB) Redunzel but it didn't suit her. Then 16
years later we get a kitten and Dave just said "THIS is Redunzel!"

And she's been Redunzel ever since - through of course she answers to
"Dunzi" "Dunzi fellah" "THE Dunz" and anything else if you're the one
holding the bag of kibble

Sarrasine has it worse due to the fact that as a kitten she had bald
patches on her back legs and bum she got known as "Barebutt" (And I
must say although as she grew up the patches vanished she was always a
bit thin in those areas but since feeding S/D and Royal Canin she now
has a magnificent coat of thick, glossy fur even there). Her other
nickname is "Really" as in " She's a good cat...really"

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
kilikini - 19 Dec 2006 14:55 GMT
> I let
> > her in, she snuggled with me and the word Chloe just popped into my head.
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> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

LOL, I love your stories!  Maybe we should start a thread about how our
furballs got their names?

kili
Yowie - 18 Dec 2006 21:44 GMT
> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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> have
> pet mice or a pet rat and can give me some advice????????

In previous life (or so it seems) I had two budgies (parakeets) and Shmogg.
The first encounter with the budgies Shmogg had as a kitten was not a good
one for him, the big blue parakeet swooped head first at him, sqawking loud
and threatening squawks, and only missed colliding with Shmogg head-on by a
most amazing mid-flight veer at the very last second. Shmogg was scared
witless of both the budgies from that point on, and never bothered either of
them till the day they went to Rainbow Bridge.

I was so comfortable in their safety, I rarely ever had them in their cage,
to the point I had forgotten about cats & birds and hte natural way of
things when I catsat a friend's cat. Within an hour, friend's cat had
managed to catch the big blue budgie. Thankfully no harm was done, but it
reminded me of just how trustworthy Shmogg was around them. I was also
grateful it was the big blue budgie - she was as tough as old nails. The
little yellow budgie probably would have died of fright.

My advice to you would be to make the first encounter your cats have with
the rat a negative one (a water squirt,a loud "no" ?), so that they are
discouraged from bothering the rat. Of course, if they are already
profecient hunters, you may be working uphill, but if they are lazy
housecats like Shmogg, you might be in luck.

Yowie
kilikini - 18 Dec 2006 22:00 GMT
> In previous life (or so it seems) I had two budgies (parakeets) and Shmogg.
> The first encounter with the budgies Shmogg had as a kitten was not a good
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>
> Yowie

So far, so good.  Tyrone and Pua have shown the most interest (which I
expected), but no malice (which I also expected).  They just like the smell!
Chloe ran from the room.  Time will tell.

kili
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meeee - 18 Dec 2006 23:10 GMT
Sounds like they are going well. My cats all ignore our parrot as whenever
they showed any interest they got the water bottle. However if he flies
around, they go into automatic hunter mode. They should ignore the rat as
long as he doesn't run from them, so maybe only have him out when they're
not around.

>> In previous life (or so it seems) I had two budgies (parakeets) and
> Shmogg.
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Dewi - 19 Dec 2006 01:55 GMT
I love rats!! I have 9 of my own (Crackers, Lilly, Tigger, Ginger,
Puggles, Bunny, Zac, Pickles & Chutney). I hate to admit it, but rats
are now my favourite animals whilst cats play a close 2nd.

I keep my rats well away from the cats. My rats freak out at the smell
of cats, and the risk of cats scratching little eyes and noses. Bad and
risky mix. I would never let the cats come in the same room as the rat,
the smell alone could get the rat stressed, for obvious reasons. Plus a
rat could inflict a nasty bite on the cats. It's also not a good idea
to house the rat in a tank (or something similar) as the smell of urine
builds up fast and causes respiratory problems (which rats are very
prone to). Plus they don't get to smell their environment and there
would be less noise, which would be depressing and claustrophobic.

I would recommend that you have a room that is cat free for the rat and
be ultra, ultra careful about keeping doors shut. To be sure, I
personally would have two doors shut that separate the cats from the
rats (in my case it was to separate the dog from the house rabbits).

We allow our rats to have free range of the bedroom or the study for
hours on end. Any chance you can get Mickey a buddy or two, as rats are
social creatures. If you go down this path read up on how to introduce
rats before getting any new additions. A good rat website is
http://www.dapper.com.au/, and there will be many links from there.

Have fun with ratty.

Dewi.

> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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kilikini - 19 Dec 2006 15:04 GMT
> I love rats!! I have 9 of my own (Crackers, Lilly, Tigger, Ginger,
> Puggles, Bunny, Zac, Pickles & Chutney). I hate to admit it, but rats
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>
> Dewi.

Thanks for the awesome advice, Dewi.  The rat is in a tank now which I
didn't agree on from the get-go, but he came that way. We're looking into a
multi-level, laddered "office" for the sweet, little cutie.  My husband
insists that the rat's house shall never be called a cage, but an "office".
<g>  Fine, whatever, I just want a nice, spacious multi-tiered playground fo
r Mickey.

We have the back bedroom door closed off from the cats, so that they can't
pounce on the cage or upset the little tyke while he adjusts to his new
environment.  The problem is, that that's where Tyrone and Pua like to hang
out, so they've got a shorter zooming area now and it shows!  They've
literally been bouncing off the walls this morning.

I think we're going to have an amicable household in the long run, and for
now, all 7 of us (2 of us are of the 2-legged sort) are happy with our
arrangement.

kili
polonca12000 - 22 Dec 2006 20:11 GMT
> As you know we're taking on the fluffy kitty.  My husband has already been
> calling her Furbie - remember the stuffed toys?  Long hair, big eyes?  I
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Congrats on your new addition!
Best wishes and lots of purrs for you, kili,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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