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Pat - 12 Dec 2006 17:30 GMT
I'm nothing if not resourceful. Thinking of possible ways to help pay the
dentist because in addition to what I've already paid for, I need one more
extraction plus either two gold crowns or one crown and one root canal, or
two extractions (three total) and a gold crown. In any event, it's big bucks
that I do not have. SO... I must dispose of what I don't really need.

The ex-DH when we lived in Arizona gave me two lovely antique Native
American necklaces, both gorgeous, no metal involved, one is Santa Domingo
red coral and one is Navajo turquoise and bone.  I never wear them anymore,
because I don't go out to the kind of places where one wears jewelry, so
they just hang on a hook here, looking beautiful! I used to sell this kind
of jewelry for a living so I do have a rough idea of what they're worth. The
coral would go for at least $250 and the other maybe 2-3x more.

I investigated similar items on ebay and it seems quick sales only happen
there with grossly underpriced stuff. Also checked RubyLane.com, they get
better prices, but you have to pay fees to open a store, which makes no
sense with just two items. Craig's list is a possibility, not sure how good.
I'll probably have a hard time letting them go to strangers, but I can't
justify keeping this kind of sentimental stuff around anymore.

Anyone have another venue suggestion? Meanwhile I'll get busy taking pics of
the necklaces, to help take my mind off the pain in my mouth!
sriddles@aol.com - 12 Dec 2006 17:35 GMT
> I'm nothing if not resourceful. Thinking of possible ways to help pay the
> dentist because in addition to what I've already paid for, I need one more
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> Anyone have another venue suggestion? Meanwhile I'll get busy taking pics of
> the necklaces, to help take my mind off the pain in my mouth!

Pat, I don't know much about other venues, but have you thought about
putting a reserve on the necklaces on e-bay? That way you would not
have to let them go too cheap. They sound beautiful. I"d love to see
pictures. It would be good if you could find a place that specializes
in Navajo jewelry.
I didn't know dentists used gold on crowns anymore! I have never had a
gold one! My oldest crown is stainless and it's about 25 years old, so
it held up well. The others are porcelain. My grandma had a gold crown.
I remember thinking how cool that was when I was a kid.

Sherry
Pat - 13 Dec 2006 00:17 GMT
> Pat, I don't know much about other venues, but have you thought about
> putting a reserve on the necklaces on e-bay? That way you would not
> have to let them go too cheap. They sound beautiful. I"d love to see
> pictures. It would be good if you could find a place that specializes
> in Navajo jewelry.

Sherry, anyplace that specializes in Navajo jewelry will have their own
suppliers, like I once did. They would give me jobber's price for these
pieces, which is probably less than I could get on ebay. Putting a reserve
on an item not only costs extra, it also pretty much guarantees it won't
sell. And you still have to pay a listing fee when something does not sell.
I will try this as a last resort though.

> I didn't know dentists used gold on crowns anymore! I have never had a
> gold one! My oldest crown is stainless and it's about 25 years old, so
> it held up well. The others are porcelain. My grandma had a gold crown.
> I remember thinking how cool that was when I was a kid.

I got my first gold crown in 1978 (and it's still 100% OK) and a bunch more
in 1992, and one in early 2003 (the one that needed recementing recently).
You can still get gold crowns, and for molars nothing else is worth having,
IMO.

My computer is running on one memory stick and using the spare monitor.
Apparently a memory stick went bad at the same time as the monitor did!

Will get jewelry pics later.... I hate taking the computer apart. And this
time when I moved the table, my external HD fell on the floor. Sure hope it
survived, I've had enough losses for one day!!!
Jo Firey - 13 Dec 2006 03:11 GMT
>> Pat, I don't know much about other venues, but have you thought about
>> putting a reserve on the necklaces on e-bay? That way you would not
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> having,
> IMO.

I have two crowns about thirty years old and Charlie had about ten.  All
molars and all gold.  We had insurance for some of them but it only paid
about half.  Charlie complained about the expense but I told him I was
darned if I was going to have to put up with dragging him to the dentist
when he's 80 to have them replaced.  A good gold crown lasts forever.  And
unlike others materials, it can be modified after it is in if necessary.

Jo
Jane - 13 Dec 2006 14:22 GMT
> I have two crowns about thirty years old and Charlie had about ten.  All
> molars and all gold.  We had insurance for some of them but it only paid
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>
> Jo

Well, close to forever. I just had a gold crown replaced that was
almost 20 years old. Oddly enough, the replacement wasn't nearly as
expensive as I thought it would be, too.

My reasoning for getting gold, way back then, was because it was a back
tooth anyway, and I was paying $500 for it, I wanted it to *look* like
$500.  Not only that, gold doesn't crack the way porcelin would, AND, I
wasn't going to pay $500 to have a tooth colored yellow! (my teeth are
naturally yellow.  Durn genes.)

Jane
- 2 crowns and 1 3-wide bridge, all solid gold now.
jmcquown - 13 Dec 2006 13:31 GMT
>> Pat, I don't know much about other venues, but have you thought about
>> putting a reserve on the necklaces on e-bay? That way you would not
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> fee when something does not sell. I will try this as a last resort
> though.

Not necessarily true.  A year or so ago I sold a gold & diamond ring on eBay
with a reserve of $750.  I don't recall being charged extra to set a
reserve; I think if you set a Buy It Now price there's a fee.  Or maybe
they've changed things.  I know they charged based on the number of photos,
the number of categories I listed it under, stuff like that.

Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 13 Dec 2006 00:44 GMT
> I didn't know dentists used gold on crowns anymore! I have never had a
> gold one! My oldest crown is stainless and it's about 25 years old, so
> it held up well. The others are porcelain. My grandma had a gold crown.
> I remember thinking how cool that was when I was a kid.

I've never had anything but gold!  Most of mine, being
visible, are porcelain-faced, but the crown itself is gold
(porcelain by itself is not considered sufficiently
durable).  Where do you live that they use steel?  I thought
they only did that in Soviet Russia!

> Sherry
sriddles@aol.com - 13 Dec 2006 03:44 GMT
> > I didn't know dentists used gold on crowns anymore! I have never had a
> > gold one! My oldest crown is stainless and it's about 25 years old, so
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> durable).  Where do you live that they use steel?  I thought
> they only did that in Soviet Russia!

Well, that's kind of rude. What do you think they make children's caps
out of? I'm not exactly sure *which* alloy it is, possibly nickel. I
usually get whatever the insurance company dictates, and they do not
pay for gold crowns. Like I said, I've had one for 25 years and have
had no problem with it.

Sherry
jmcquown - 13 Dec 2006 13:38 GMT
> I didn't know dentists used gold on crowns anymore! I have never had a
> gold one! My oldest crown is stainless and it's about 25 years old, so
> it held up well. The others are porcelain. My grandma had a gold
> crown. I remember thinking how cool that was when I was a kid.
>
> Sherry

My gold crown is about 33 years old.  No problems with it at all and it's in
the back so it doesn't matter.  I was a teen.  It was covered under the
benefits my dad had from having retired from the military.  Porcelain crowns
either weren't around or were not yet widely used back then.

The second crown I got (I wrote this in another thread) I got really upset
with my dentist because he didn't verify what my dental benefits would pay
for, he just decided to go with porcelain.  This crown, too, was in the back
so I didn't care what it looked like.  My dental insurance considered
porcelain crowns "cosmetic" and refused to pay for it.  They would have
covered a gold crown.  Lucky for me, he realized his (or his staff's)
mistake.  They verified I had dental coverage in force but *not* what kind
of crown it would pay for.  He "ate" the bill. (whew!)

Jill
jmcquown - 13 Dec 2006 13:25 GMT
> I investigated similar items on ebay and it seems quick sales only
> happen there with grossly underpriced stuff. Also checked
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> letting them go to strangers, but I can't justify keeping this kind
> of sentimental stuff around anymore.

I've recently seen a number of cases on a couple of those televised "judge
shows" featuring sales of items on eBay and other internet venues.  Whatever
you do, keep copies of your ad(s), copies of all email correspondence
between yourself and the buyer, records (dates, times, topic of discussion)
of phone conversations if any.  Good luck!

Jill
Pat - 13 Dec 2006 15:21 GMT
> I've recently seen a number of cases on a couple of those televised "judge
> shows" featuring sales of items on eBay and other internet venues.
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> discussion)
> of phone conversations if any.  Good luck!

Jill, I've been an active ebay member since 1999 and know my way around
there pretty well. They have gone from thousands of sellers to millions
during those years.
jmcquown - 13 Dec 2006 19:26 GMT
>> I've recently seen a number of cases on a couple of those televised
>> "judge shows" featuring sales of items on eBay and other internet
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> around there pretty well. They have gone from thousands of sellers to
> millions during those years.

I've been a member since 2000; what's your point?  It doesn't mean there
aren't people out there who won't try to claim you misrepresented your item
or perpetrated a fraud or demand their money back, as evidenced by the folks
I'm seeing in these faux "small claims" courts on television.
sriddles@aol.com - 13 Dec 2006 21:03 GMT
> >> I've recently seen a number of cases on a couple of those televised
> >> "judge shows" featuring sales of items on eBay and other internet
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> or perpetrated a fraud or demand their money back, as evidenced by the folks
> I'm seeing in these faux "small claims" courts on television.

I don't understand. We're talking about jewelry. If she provides a
photo and accurate description, what else is there to be concerned
about? Caveat emptor. The only thing I'd worry about is the thing
getting lost in the mail. Mail service isn't as dependable as it once
was.

Sherry
Enfilade - 14 Dec 2006 12:28 GMT
> I don't understand. We're talking about jewelry. If she provides a
> photo and accurate description, what else is there to be concerned
> about? Caveat emptor. The only thing I'd worry about is the thing
> getting lost in the mail. Mail service isn't as dependable as it once
> was.

Add the rider:  Ask any questions before bidding, additional photos
taken upon request, item is presented as-is.

And make insurance on the parcel mandatory.  Good luck!

On the subject of teeth, I had two cavities about 20 years ago and both
are filled with steel (or some other sort of silver material).

--Fil
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Dec 2006 01:36 GMT
>>I don't understand. We're talking about jewelry. If she provides a
>>photo and accurate description, what else is there to be concerned
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> On the subject of teeth, I had two cavities about 20 years ago and both
> are filled with steel (or some other sort of silver material).

Not steel, an alloy (containing mercury), I think.  They
still use something similar, but I don't suppose it still
contains mercury.
 
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