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Pat - 11 Dec 2006 19:07 GMT
.... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an additional
$420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of repairs needed
to save three teeth that I'd lose otherwise. I hate losing teeth, would
rather be up to my eyeballs in debt than have to get any more yanked out!!

Gracias for all the purrs. I skipped breakfast and lunch, and stomach is
protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
more hours as my tongue is still numb....
sriddles@aol.com - 11 Dec 2006 19:13 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an additional
> $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of repairs needed
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....

So you don't have to have any extractions? That's *is* good news. Be
sure to get your dentist's definition of "save". In my case, $800 only
saved a tooth for 3 more years. Not worth it, IMO. I'm glad you're
getting it taken care of. I never realized before how closely the heart
and teeth are related. My daughter is a cardiac care RN and she has
told us about patients that end up in the hospital with valve
replacement because of bacteria coming from bad teeth.  Dental health
really is much more than ability to chew well and a pretty smile.

Sherry
Pat - 11 Dec 2006 19:25 GMT
> So you don't have to have any extractions? That's *is* good news. Be
> sure to get your dentist's definition of "save". In my case, $800 only
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> replacement because of bacteria coming from bad teeth.  Dental health
> really is much more than ability to chew well and a pretty smile.

The jury is still out on the rotten tooth. It may need to come out, and if
it does, the one behind will also have to come out. If they do, then at
least both sides will match! I will know more after the next visit. There's
one that can for sure be saved with a gold crown. Not my favorite procedure
but better than an extraction.
sriddles@aol.com - 11 Dec 2006 19:42 GMT
> > So you don't have to have any extractions? That's *is* good news. Be
> > sure to get your dentist's definition of "save". In my case, $800 only
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> one that can for sure be saved with a gold crown. Not my favorite procedure
> but better than an extraction.

Hope you *can* keep them. Having removeable dental work is going to
suck for me, I know I'm not going to like it.  Do you have a little
more confidence and are less afraid now that you've been to the first
visit?  Finding a good dentist is half the battle, if you like him. I
drive to the city to my old dentist just because I couldn't find one I
liked here. They were either too rough, or in one case, really
condescending. I don't need that, no one does.
My dentist once asked me exactly what I was afraid *of*. I practically
read him a list.
1. Pain
2. You'll drop an instrument down my throat and I'll choke to death.
3. I will involuntarily jerk and the drill will go clean through my
cheek.
4. I will die of sheer fright right here in this chair.

Then he started laughing, and I started laughing, and from then on I
really wasn't so afraid anymore. Because when it was said out loud, it
all just sounded so absurd even to me.

Sherry
Pat - 11 Dec 2006 19:54 GMT
> My dentist once asked me exactly what I was afraid *of*. I practically
> read him a list.
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> cheek.
> 4. I will die of sheer fright right here in this chair.

All my fears too, along with "Afraid you'll do something deliberately
damaging to make me need more dental work." Sometimes that gets them so mad
that they refuse to work on me at all, and when that happens I am sure I hit
the nail on the head.
CatNipped - 11 Dec 2006 20:21 GMT
>> My dentist once asked me exactly what I was afraid *of*. I practically
>> read him a list.
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> mad that they refuse to work on me at all, and when that happens I am sure
> I hit the nail on the head.

Not to add to the paranoia, but the last time I went to a new dentist he
told me I had 8 cavities and needed a full mouth "scaling" (a deep
cleaning).  Instead of letting him work on my mouth, and since I have had
*ZERO* cavities in the last 40 years, I (like Sherry) went to my old dentist
even though it was an hour and a half's drive away.  He told me that I
didn't have any cavities and that my teeth needed only a very light, normal
cleaning!

At least with doctors you know when something is wrong, but how do you know
if you *really* have all those cavities (when most small cavities don't
cause any pain) - and when some dentist is only trying to finance his
Hawaiian vacation???!  Had I allowed this guy to work on my mouth he would
have drilled 8 perfectly healthy teeth!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped
jmcquown - 11 Dec 2006 20:52 GMT
>>> So you don't have to have any extractions? That's *is* good news. Be
>>> sure to get your dentist's definition of "save". In my case, $800
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> more confidence and are less afraid now that you've been to the first
> visit?  Finding a good dentist is half the battle, if you like him.

I wish the dentist I used years ago hadn't moved to another state.  He's the
only one I've ever found who could literally give a painless shot in the
gums.  I remember one time he had a new patient who was as leary of shots as
I was.  He asked me if I'd go and tell the guy about how he gives shots! LOL
I could honestly tell the man I had no idea I'd just gotten a shot until my
mouth went numb.

The only problem I had with him was when I needed a crown.  He didn't bother
to check with my insurance company about coverage; he selected a *porcelain
crown* which was not a covered expense!  The tooth is in the back, there was
no need for it to be all pretty.  Imagine my surprise when I got this huge
bill from his office.  Of course there was no way I could afford to pay for
the darn thing.  He was very, very understanding, however, when I called up
all upset.  He didn't charge me a dime for it!

Jill
Jo Firey - 11 Dec 2006 19:40 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....

Right now, I'm guessing you don't feel like survival is all its cracked up
to be.

Glad it is over, sorry about the extra tooth.

I hope your fur kids are up for purrs and sympathy and that you recover
quickly.

Jo
Pat - 11 Dec 2006 19:50 GMT
> Right now, I'm guessing you don't feel like survival is all its cracked up
> to be.

You're so right. I feel like crawling into a ball and dying. But there was
just no way I could continue not going to the dentist, the pain was too
severe and getting worse by the day. I've been on soft food for over six
years, waiting until I either found a suitcase full of cash or just couldn't
stand it anymore.

> Glad it is over, sorry about the extra tooth.

Well, today's trauma is over but the whole of it has only begun.

> I hope your fur kids are up for purrs and sympathy and that you recover
> quickly.

They always are - my furry lifesavers.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2006 20:21 GMT
> > Right now, I'm guessing you don't feel like survival is all its cracked up
> > to be.

> You're so right. I feel like crawling into a ball and dying. But there was
> just no way I could continue not going to the dentist, the pain was too
> severe and getting worse by the day. I've been on soft food for over six
> years, waiting until I either found a suitcase full of cash or just couldn't
> stand it anymore.

> > Glad it is over, sorry about the extra tooth.

> Well, today's trauma is over but the whole of it has only begun.

Ugh, this sounds like a nightmare. And even if you'd rather be in debt
than toothless, it's still no fun to be in debt.

Purrs for it to go well, with minimal discomfort!

Joyce
Pat - 11 Dec 2006 20:35 GMT
> Ugh, this sounds like a nightmare. And even if you'd rather be in debt
> than toothless, it's still no fun to be in debt.

Ever since I bought this house I've been getting a non-stop flood of credit
cards offers. Before that I was without a credit card for 15 years because I
lost everything to a burglar (they took the valuable stuff out of my car
during a cross-country move). So I was leery of saying yes to any of the
offers but knew I would need emergency cash eventually. I'm still amazed
that I managed to buy this house.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2006 21:05 GMT
> Ever since I bought this house I've been getting a non-stop flood of credit
> cards offers. Before that I was without a credit card for 15 years because I
> lost everything to a burglar (they took the valuable stuff out of my car
> during a cross-country move). So I was leery of saying yes to any of the
> offers but knew I would need emergency cash eventually. I'm still amazed
> that I managed to buy this house.

The credit card companies with which you had cards didn't issue you
new ones when the old ones were stolen??

Joyce
Pat - 11 Dec 2006 21:27 GMT
> > Ever since I bought this house I've been getting a non-stop flood of
> > credit
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> The credit card companies with which you had cards didn't issue you
> new ones when the old ones were stolen??

It wasn't my credit cards that got stolen, those were with me, in my wallet.
No, they stole everything I had that was valuable (I haven't always been
dirt poor!) including 90% of the inventory of my business - stuff that I
needed to sell and pay the supplier for.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 11 Dec 2006 21:32 GMT
> It wasn't my credit cards that got stolen, those were with me, in my wallet.
> No, they stole everything I had that was valuable (I haven't always been
> dirt poor!) including 90% of the inventory of my business - stuff that I
> needed to sell and pay the supplier for.

Didn't the insurance company pay a claim for all that stuff?

Joyce
Pat - 12 Dec 2006 01:26 GMT
> > It wasn't my credit cards that got stolen, those were with me, in my
> > wallet.
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>
> Didn't the insurance company pay a claim for all that stuff?

What insurance company?

Auto insurance covers theft of stuff that is attached to the car (stereo &
such) and that's all.
Jo Firey - 12 Dec 2006 04:58 GMT
>> > It wasn't my credit cards that got stolen, those were with me, in my
>> > wallet.
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> Auto insurance covers theft of stuff that is attached to the car (stereo &
> such) and that's all.

Most of us would be out of luck in those circumstances.  Homeowners or
renters will cover a lot of things that are stolen out of a car.  But not
any kind of business inventory or equipment.  It can be difficult and
expensive to get insurance like that for a small business.

Jo
William Hamblen - 12 Dec 2006 05:09 GMT
>> > It wasn't my credit cards that got stolen, those were with me, in my
>> > wallet.
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>Auto insurance covers theft of stuff that is attached to the car (stereo &
>such) and that's all.

Inland marine, Pat.  There's coverage tailored to traveling
salespersons, trunk shows, etc.

Bud

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Pat - 12 Dec 2006 05:14 GMT
> Inland marine, Pat.  There's coverage tailored to traveling
> salespersons, trunk shows, etc.

I needed it 19 years ago....
kilikini - 11 Dec 2006 19:44 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> is protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at
> least a few more hours as my tongue is still numb....

Oh, ick, I'm so sorry to hear that.  Purrs that you can at least eat soon.
I know that numb feeling all too well!

(Hope you at least have a straw.....)

kili
Pat - 11 Dec 2006 19:57 GMT
> (Hope you at least have a straw.....)

I got some carrot juice here that I'll try to drink in a while. My jaw feels
like I was in a rumble with Rocky or something!
Jane - 12 Dec 2006 17:01 GMT
> > (Hope you at least have a straw.....)
>
> I got some carrot juice here that I'll try to drink in a while. My jaw feels
> like I was in a rumble with Rocky or something!

Drink milk.  Chocolate if you can get it. Strawberry is even better.  I
drank a lot of milk when I had tonsil problems in my 20s.  Milk is the
only solid food you can drink.

And they didn't have strawberry milk back then.  (sniff)

Oh.  I hate milk, too.  Always have, always will, but I was HUNGRY.

Jane
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Jo Firey - 12 Dec 2006 18:13 GMT
>> > (Hope you at least have a straw.....)
>>
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>
> Oh.  I hate milk, too.  Always have, always will, but I was HUNGRY.

I just turned 61 last week and they had strawberry milk when I was a kid.

BTW, I had my tonsils out younger than most of my friends.  When my friends
had their out (everyone seemed to in the fifties) they all told how they got
all the ice cream they could eat while in the hospital.  I never got any and
felt so deprived when I heard this later.

Jo
sriddles@aol.com - 13 Dec 2006 00:44 GMT
> >> > (Hope you at least have a straw.....)
> >>
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>
> I just turned 61 last week and they had strawberry milk when I was a kid.

Oh, I remember the Strawberry Nestle's Quick from the 1960's. I hated
it though. I was an Ovaltine kid.

Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 13 Dec 2006 02:06 GMT
> Oh, I remember the Strawberry Nestle's Quick from the 1960's. I hated
> it though. I was an Ovaltine kid.

I wanted to be an Ovaltine kid, but my mother never bought it. We
always had Nestle's. But of course I much preferred the chocolate!

What is in Ovaltine, anyway? Is it chocolate? It has a very mild flavor,
but I liked it.

Joyce
sriddles@aol.com - 13 Dec 2006 07:05 GMT
>  > Oh, I remember the Strawberry Nestle's Quick from the 1960's. I hated
>  > it though. I was an Ovaltine kid.
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>
> Joyce

Heck, I don't know. It wasn't as dark as chocolate milk. Wasn't it kind
of a malt flavor? We should give it a try. We'd probably think it was
gross now. (I bought some of those marshmallow "Peeps" candies last
Easter, remembering how I loved them as a kid. I about gagged on them.
Sickly sweet, gritty!! I threw them away.

Sherry

Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 13 Dec 2006 08:59 GMT
> I bought some of those marshmallow "Peeps" candies last
> Easter, remembering how I loved them as a kid. I about gagged on them.
> Sickly sweet, gritty!! I threw them away.

LOL! I never had Peeps as a kid. In fact, I'd never even heard of them
until a few years ago when I started seeing references to that website
where college students perform various experiments on peeps and report
their findings (with photos). I wasn't at all clear from that site
exactly what a Peep *was*. Finally, last year, at a party, I saw my
first Peep. It didn't look anything like food. I had absolutely no urge
to put it in my mouth, I can tell you that.

On the other hand, I was big on instant pudding as a kid. I still like
it now, I have to confess, but it's not as wonderful as I remember it.
Ditto for many cereals. And one of my favorite childhood foods on the
planet is something that seems gross even as I remember it, and I
haven't had it in 40 years or more: canned macaroni and cheese. Ewww.

Joyce
Pat - 13 Dec 2006 00:14 GMT
> Drink milk.  Chocolate if you can get it. Strawberry is even better.  I
> drank a lot of milk when I had tonsil problems in my 20s.  Milk is the
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>
> Oh.  I hate milk, too.  Always have, always will, but I was HUNGRY.

I could not keep milk down if I was paid ten million dollars to do so.
Adrian A - 13 Dec 2006 15:30 GMT
>> Drink milk.  Chocolate if you can get it. Strawberry is even better.
>> I drank a lot of milk when I had tonsil problems in my 20s.  Milk is
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I could not keep milk down if I was paid ten million dollars to do so.

My great aunt was like that, I can still remember to look on her face when
she watched me drink a pint in one go. ;-)
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CatNipped - 11 Dec 2006 19:51 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....

Oh my!  I can very much sympathize - I just had 2 crowns put on and *my*
portion was over $US 1,000.00 - and I have to have *another* done in a few
weeks!!!

Purrs for both your teeth and your finances!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Joy - 11 Dec 2006 20:25 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....

It sounds as though you could use a few more purrs.  They're on the way.

Joy
Irulan - 11 Dec 2006 20:43 GMT
ah, sorry for your discomfort. Get all the furbabies and vegetate
on the couch or in bed. Purrs and prayers that you get more
comfortable soon.

Lily & her mama

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> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....
Adrian A - 11 Dec 2006 22:59 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> is protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at
> least a few more hours as my tongue is still numb....

{{{{{{{{{{{{ Pat }}}}}}}}}}}}
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Julie and Sam - 12 Dec 2006 02:02 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....

Purrs for your mouth, you empty stomach and your empty pocketbook, Pat.  I
hate dental work but have a dentist who understands and is willing to give
me lots of novacane before he starts.  I'm sensitive to temperature as well
and even during routine cleaning the water they squirt in your mouth and the
air they use to dry your teeth can set me off.  If I'm having sinus trouble
he'll give me novacane just to clean my teeth. (The swollen sinuses will
push my molars out of the gums exposing nerves).

Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus
Randy - 12 Dec 2006 13:03 GMT
>> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
>> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>Julie, Hobbes, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus

My teeth are very sensitive to cold. I use colgate sensitive and that has
complete eliminated the sensitivity.

Randy

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Sam - 12 Dec 2006 04:35 GMT
> ..... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an additional
> $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of repairs needed
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....

Glad to hear you made it through the procedure, but sorry to hear about
the additional torture (more dental work).  Purrs continuing that you'll
feel better and be able to eat something soon.

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mlbriggs - 12 Dec 2006 06:36 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an additional
> $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of repairs needed
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....

epidemic???  I was reading all the bad tooth stories this morning.  Having
recently gone through the same trouble, I was very sympathetic.  The phone
rang.  It was an old friend I haven't talked with in several months.  She
called to tell me her mother had been going through misery with an
abscessed tooth.  The dentist tried to pull it but the deadening stuff
didn't work and caused her too much pain.  So he sent her home to take
antibiotics for a week.  After that, he was able to remove the tooth
easily.

Purrs for those suffering with tooth problems.   MLB
meeee - 12 Dec 2006 11:46 GMT
:( Hope it works out for you Pat...purrs headed your way for the teeth and
some extra $$ too...

> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an
> additional $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....
polonca12000 - 15 Dec 2006 20:21 GMT
> .... they found another rotten tooth dammit :(((( and I'm now an additional
> $420 in debt with at least another $thousand$ or so worth of repairs needed
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> protesting but I won't be able to do anything about it for at least a few
> more hours as my tongue is still numb....

I'm so sorry to hear that.
Lots of purrs,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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