>> The cards have certainly been doing a lot to make me smile. It's
>> going to get down to 19F tonight (BRRRRRRRRETH!) That's freakin'
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> Tweed
>>> The cards have certainly been doing a lot to make me smile. It's
>>> going to get down to 19F tonight (BRRRRRRRRETH!) That's freakin'
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>so unless you don't have electricity, don't burn a fire. We're fine, but
>I'm not going outside for a few days LOL
A wood-burning stove, even the basic low-tech variety, is a much more
efficient way to heat a house than is a fireplace. My parents used a
wood stove as their primary heat source for the last 25 years of their
lives (they died about 6 months apart). It still sucks outside air
into the house, but I have read about some more elaborate
installations that include an air duct to bring outside air to the
stove. Of course, you still have to deal with the ashes afterwards,
as you would with a fireplace.
I was amused to notice that seven or eight school systems across
Tennessee had decided to close school early, or in one case to cancel
school altogether, even though this storm system is not expected to
drop any significant amount of snow. It will simply be cold.

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Mishi - 08 Dec 2006 03:13 GMT
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>I was amused to notice that seven or eight school systems across
>Tennessee had decided to close school early, or in one case to cancel
>school altogether, even though this storm system is not expected to
>drop any significant amount of snow. It will simply be cold.
Right now it is 15 degrees F, with a wind chill of -6F. We have had
about 3 inches of snow since this am, and it looks like it is winding
up out there. The snow is coming down about 1 inch an hour. The
schools around here (central New York) don't cancel unless it is
either too snowy to drive in or the temp is too cold for the kids to
wait outside in.
I just went outside to check my outside cats - they are camped out in
my garage, where I have sleeping bins and blankets they can snuggle
into. I warmed up their wet food so they could have a wam dinner,
made sure that their sleeping bins were fluffed properly, and came
back in to my warm and toasty cats. They are having a cat spaz, esp.
Jacob. He just ran behind my chair, prrrt prrrting and looking like a
mad cat, tail up and bouncing sideways. Such a cute boy!
Christina Websell - 08 Dec 2006 23:46 GMT
>>>> The cards have certainly been doing a lot to make me smile. It's
>>>> going to get down to 19F tonight (BRRRRRRRRETH!) That's freakin'
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>>so unless you don't have electricity, don't burn a fire. We're fine, but
>>I'm not going outside for a few days LOL
Your flue should not suck all the heated air back out up the chimney. Heat
should radiate from the fire all round your room and only the smoke should
go up the flue or chimney. It sounds faulty to me.
> A wood-burning stove, even the basic low-tech variety, is a much more
> efficient way to heat a house than is a fireplace. My parents used a
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> stove. Of course, you still have to deal with the ashes afterwards,
> as you would with a fireplace.
Woodburners are great if you are in most of the time. The trouble with them
is that if *you* go out for a few hours, so do they. Literally.
I have a woodburner as my main heating source. Sustainable energy and all
that, trying to be "green."
If I light it in the evening when I get home from work, it takes a lot of my
attention for an hour at least to get it going. Lay it with newspaper,
cardboard, bark, twigs, bigger twigs etc. Watch it go out and have to start
again ;-)
Once it gets going, it is marvellous. It needs an eye on it all the time
and reloading approximately every 1-1 and a half hours.
It goes out overnight, obviously. I go to work at just after 8 a.m. Mon-Fri
so when I get home my house is absolutely freezing cold in the winter.
I would recommend a woodburner for anyone who is home for most of the time.
If you can keep it going you will be as warm as toast. There is some work
involved with having one, though. Even though I buy my wood - so I find it
a bit expensive to run - it comes in random sizes, often too big so some
chopping/splitting with an axe is required.
The ash is not a problem. You have to run a woodburner on a bed of ash
anyway and I find I only need to reduce it to a small layer about once a
week. Wood ash is wonderful fertiliser for the garden, full of potash, just
dig it in. Grows great parsnips!
Tweed
jmcquown - 09 Dec 2006 01:19 GMT
>>>>> The cards have certainly been doing a lot to make me smile. It's
>>>>> going to get down to 19F tonight (BRRRRRRRRETH!) That's freakin'
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> Heat should radiate from the fire all round your room and only the
> smoke should go up the flue or chimney. It sounds faulty to me.
Then every fireplace I've ever had has been faulty. Not trying to be
argumentative but even when I was a teen living with my parents we never
used the fireplace if it was in the teens or twenties (farenheit) because
all the other rooms in the house got cold. A proper fireplace draws the
smoke upwards and with it goes the heat. It's certainly warm right around
the fire but other rooms suffer because of it. And I was wrong, it got down
to 16F in the wee hours of the morning! BRRRRRRRR! But Persia snuggled
next to me and I had one of Grandma Brown's knitted afghans on top of the
covers on the bed so I was nice and toasty :)
Jill
Enfilade - 09 Dec 2006 02:34 GMT
> Then every fireplace I've ever had has been faulty. Not trying to be
> argumentative but even when I was a teen living with my parents we never
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> next to me and I had one of Grandma Brown's knitted afghans on top of the
> covers on the bed so I was nice and toasty :)
My parents have a fireplace in their rec room. First, the former
outside-door of the house bars off the rec room from the rest of the
house and so the rest of the house doesn't lose heat; secondly, the
fireplace is built out of old-style cut stone, and so even after the
fire goes out, the stone radiates heat for 12 hours or more afterwards,
keeping the room warm. That's where the real warming power comes in.
However, when there is an East wind, the wind goes down the chimney and
the whole room is like ice.
--Fil
Pat - 09 Dec 2006 03:06 GMT
> Woodburners are great if you are in most of the time. The trouble with
> them is that if *you* go out for a few hours, so do they. Literally.
I used wood heat most of the years I was in Arizona. I would put a few logs
in the stove before I went to bed and there was always a bed of red-hot
coals in the morning.