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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2006Is canned chicken broth okay for cats?
I remember reading the onions are all that good for cats, and one of my friends was thinking about making something with canned chicken broth. Are the leftovers okay for the cat? She was worried about hurting them. We both know that onions and carrots and celery are used in the making of a real chicken stock/broth, but is it enough to hurt the cats? It never occurred to me, since none of my cats (so far) ate people food. Her cats do. Jane - owned and operated by Princess Rita Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can cause serious problems Food items that potentially could be dangerous to pets include onions, onion powder, chocolate (bakers, semi sweet, milk, dark), alcoholic beverages, yeast dough, coffee (grounds, beans, chocolate covered espresso beans, tea (caffeine), salt, macadamia nuts, hops (used in home beer brewing), tomato leaves and stems (green parts), tomato leaves and stems (green parts), rhubarb leaves, avocados (toxic to birds, mice, rabbits, horses, cattle, and dairy goats), cigarettes, cigars, snuff, chewing tobacco, moldy or spoiled foods. Onions Veterinary & Aquatic Services Department, Drs. Foster & Smith, Inc. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0&cat=1763&articleid=1108 Onions contain a compound which is toxic to the red blood cells of cats. The red blood cells are destroyed and this results in anemia. The specific type of anemia is called 'Heinz body anemia' because the red cells develop an abnormality called a 'Heinz body' which can be seen under the microscope. In the past, when a cat would not eat, baby foods were sometimes used to coax the cat to eat. Unfortunately, the baby foods contained onion powder, and some cats developed Heinz body anemia from eating the onion-containing baby food. Caution should be used in feeding 'human' food to cats because it may contain ingredients that cats cannot tolerate, such as onion. Garlic contains a compound similar to the one in onions that causes Heinz body anemia, however, the garlic compound is much less toxic. http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vetm0805_562-566.pdf?docID=5602&AddInterest=1101 http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pro_apcc_toxic_onion http://www.aspca.org/site/Search?query=onion&inc=10 http://www.aspca.org/site/DocServer/vettech_1103.pdf?docID=2082 http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/protect_your_pet_from_common_household_dangers /foods_potentially_poisonous_to_pets.html >I remember reading the onions are all that good for cats, and one of my > friends was thinking about making something with canned chicken broth. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Jane > - owned and operated by Princess Rita > Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can cause > serious problems [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > dairy goats), cigarettes, cigars, snuff, chewing tobacco, moldy or spoiled > foods. I read an article on chocolate and dogs and the study reported that dogs require large doses of chocolate for an adverse reaction (other than gaining weight). In regards to avocados and mice, it's the skin that's toxic, the flesh is fine. I regularly feed avocados to my mice and rats, minus the skin. Dewi >> Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can >> cause serious problems [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Dewi Depends on the chocolate Dewi :) White chocolate is perfectly fine, minus the sugar, milk solids and etc. But the cacoa toxin isn't present. Milk chocolate, less so than dark, but moreso than white. Dark chocolate or 60% Cacoa Bean is dangerous in any amount. I wish I remembered where the scale is, but it detailed how much of what kind per weight is fatal to cats and dogs. here it is. http://www.transportcafe.co.uk/dogchocolate.html > Depends on the chocolate Dewi :) > White chocolate is perfectly fine, minus the sugar, milk solids and etc. But > the cacoa toxin isn't present. That's because white chocolate isn't chocolate at all. I don't know what it is, but I'm sure someone who does know will say what it is. :) All I know is that it really has nothing to do with chocolate, so I'm not surprised that it's safe(r) for pets. Joyce > > Depends on the chocolate Dewi :) > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Joyce LOL, I just called it the cacoa toxin. Whatever it is in the bean that makes our furred ones ill :) Grace > > Depends on the chocolate Dewi :) > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Joyce The substance in chocolate that's toxic to cats and dogs (and likely other critters I'm not aware of) is theobromine, or by it's IUPAC name: 3,7-dihydro-3,7-dimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione. (There will be a quiz later...). It's what makes chocolate addictive to humans. It tends to be a 'mood elevator', but very mild compared to controlled substances. Because cats are so small, relatively small amounts of chocolate, especially dark chocolate, can cause seizures and death. Since some cats and dogs will try just about any 'human food', even if it's smell doesn't necessarily appeal to them, chocolate should always be kept away from cats and dogs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Life without cats would be only marginally worth living." -TC, and the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico kitty, Kenzie. How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven. - Robert Heinlein Life is very difficult. Once you understand that, life becomes easier. -Buddha What's more, is the effect with chocolate is cumulative over an animals life, it collects in the liver and slowly poisons the liver so a dose now, even in dogs may not be bad, but over time a dose here and a dose there can add up to a bad amount. Bridget >>> Depends on the chocolate Dewi :) >>> White chocolate is perfectly fine, minus the sugar, milk solids and etc. But [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Life is very difficult. Once you understand that, life becomes easier. > -Buddha >> Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can >> cause serious problems [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Dewi Or this one rather :) http://www.dogownersdigest.com/news/library/chocolate-dog-poisoning.shtml > I read an article on chocolate and dogs and the study reported that > dogs require large doses of chocolate for an adverse reaction (other [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Dewi My lovebird, Peaches, can die in a matter of hours if she ingests avocado. Flesh, skin, doesn't matter. Avocado is toxic to her species. I follow the advice of my veterinarian rather than something I read in a book or online. Fortunately for me, I don't find avocados (nor guacamole) all that interesting so I don't buy them. I'm also not a fan of chocolate :) Jill > > I read an article on chocolate and dogs and the study reported that > > dogs require large doses of chocolate for an adverse reaction (other [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jill I saw on a TV pet show on that avacado was toxic to parrots. It's unfortunate that wild birds eat it. Dewi. > Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can cause > serious problems [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > rhubarb leaves, avocados (toxic to birds, mice, rabbits, horses, cattle, and > dairy goats) Are you sure about avocados being toxic to birds? Apparently no one told the birds in the Los Angeles neighborhood where I had access to an avocado tree - the tree-ripened ones showed plenty of evidence of attention from birds! >> Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can >> cause serious problems [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > tree-ripened ones showed plenty of evidence of attention > from birds! Depends on the species. Peaches is a Fischer lovebird and the vet told me NO NO NO to avocados. I don't particularly like avocados so that wasn't a problem for me. She adores apples (but only Gala apples) and carrots and celery and kale and spinach. I don't care much for kale but I buy it just for her. It's got a lot of the vitamins she needs. I tried fresh corn on the cob but she's not really into that. She pecked at it but it was not a big winner :) She also gets millet spray and flax seed as snacks. Peaches is a happy, healthy lovebird. And Persia, for some reason, likes to hang out and meatloaf next to the stand where her cage is. She never bothers Peaches, although on rare occasions sometimes she stands on her hind legs and peers into the cage to look at her. The last time I boarded both of them in October, I was told while they were cleaning out her kennel someone left the door to the cat room open. Persia wandered out and went straight to the grooming room where they keep Peaches. Aha! A tracker cat! She had to see for herself Peaches was there, too :) How sweet! Jill > Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can cause > serious problems Thanks. That's all I needed to know. She should keep the leftovers away from the cats. > Food items that potentially could be dangerous to pets include onions, onion > powder, chocolate (bakers, semi sweet, milk, dark), alcoholic beverages, > yeast dough, coffee (grounds, beans, chocolate covered espresso beans, tea yeast dough? *snicker* Like poor, poor Jasper? *snort* Jane - owned and operated by Princess Rita (who doesn't eat any people food) On a related note, I know that sunflower oil is very bad indeed for cats but what about other oils? Specifically, my cat gets very interested when I fry some chicken in olive oil (admittedly the only one I use) but I keep a spare pack of ham if she looks like she's getting too close to my dinner. > Onions and onion powder are not and I REPEAT NOT OK for cats it can cause > serious problems [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Jane > > - owned and operated by Princess Rita > On a related note, I know that sunflower oil is very bad indeed for > cats but what about other oils? Specifically, my cat gets very > interested when I fry some chicken in olive oil (admittedly the only > one I use) but I keep a spare pack of ham if she looks like she's > getting too close to my dinner. Actually, ham (and other "cured" meat) is not good for cats, either - it can cause intestinal inflamations. I just don't feed mine ANY "people" food (barring the juice from water-pack canned fish, on rare occasions). Fortunately, my current crop don't seem much interested in anything but cat food and treats, so it's not a problem. > I remember reading the onions are all that good for cats, and one of my > friends was thinking about making something with canned chicken broth. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jane I would imagine the amount of onion powder they would actually ingest if she's just using the broth as an ingredient would be negligible. They'd have to have a steady diet of the broth itself before they suffered any effects from it. IMO. The sodium content might be an issue though. Sherry >> I remember reading the onions are all that good for cats, and one of my >> friends was thinking about making something with canned chicken broth. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Sherry I agree. I don't see why chicken broth would be an issue for a one-time-only treat. I'd call and check the vet though. The vet would be the best one to determine what would be appropriate for his or her patient. I know since ours doesn't have any digestive problems or health related issues, our vet would probably ok it. But it may be different if the cat has already had complications of any type. Grace |
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