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jmcquown - 28 Nov 2006 18:21 GMT
BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
have children and (2) I have an IRA.  This didn't make sense to me because
single people have to eat, too.  I finally found a woman at the Tennessee
Dept. of Human Services who said what I'd been told was utterly ridiculous.

Now, I *don't* qualify for what is considered welfare (a monthly check)
because TN replaced the old welfare system with something called "Families
First".  Obviously this is geared towards people with children.  If I were
over 55 there would be an exception, but I'm not.  However, I was told I
could certainly apply for food stamps.

I filled out the application and mailed it off.  Just got back from my
appointment with my caseworker.  At first she told me that because my
parents send me money to pay my bills and I put that money in the bank and
write my own checks, I don't qualify.  She said my mother would need to
write the checks directly to the vendor(s) herself.  I sighed and said,
"That's not gonna happen.  She's 81 years old, no way is she going to sit
down and write out checks to my utilities company, the phone company, etc."
The caseworker said, "I understand, so here's what we're gonna do.  Get your
mom to send you a letter simply stating she pays all your bills."  Okay, I
can do that.

Then she told me I'll get $150 a month, prorated to the date of my
application which was sent to them on November 2nd, so I'll have $340 for
November and December on my EBT (food stamps) debit card and it will be
mailed out in 3-5 business days.  I looked at her.  It dawned on me, she'd
approved me for benefits!  YAY!  Happy Dance!!!  After that I'll get $150 a
month credited to the card to use for buying groceries.

As for the letter from my mother, she said just hang onto it.  If I still
need the benefits when it comes time for re-certification in April, bring it
with me.

So finally, after all this long time, I'm actually going to get some help.
You can't imagine how frustrating it's been, after working steadily for 25
years, to be told I didn't qualify for any help once I had no income.

Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!
Adrian A - 28 Nov 2006 21:57 GMT
> BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
> didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I
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>
> Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

That's great news, I'm happy for you. :-) It's a pity it doesn't cover cat
food as well. ;-)
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Christina Websell - 28 Nov 2006 22:20 GMT
> BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
> didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
> have children and (2) I have an IRA.  This didn't make sense to me because
> single people have to eat, too.

I was surprised that America had no welfare provision for single people who
find themselves in difficult circumstances, out of work.
I hope you can find a job soon, Jill.  Lots of luck coming over the pond for
your hunt for work.

Tweed
jmcquown - 28 Nov 2006 23:28 GMT
>> BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that
>> I didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I
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>
>Tweed

The problem is the programs are controlled at the state level.  There's no
provision for welfare, food stamps or health care which covers the country
like a blanket.  It's a great failing as far as I'm concerned.

I applied for 4 jobs of various sorts last Friday.  No word yet about an
interview for any of them.

Jill
Matthew - 28 Nov 2006 23:33 GMT
>>> BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that
>>> I didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I
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>
> Jill

Happy dance

You are in my prayers Jill   the pack is sending some purrs

Pss  I HATE F@CKING LAWYERS even though I have already one of my cases now
just a few more to go and one big one :-(
JBHajos - 29 Nov 2006 14:04 GMT
>Pss  I HATE F@CKING LAWYERS even though I have already one of my cases now
>just a few more to go and one big one :-(

 Aw, gee, whiz, Matthew, you don't hate or broad-blanket ALL of them,
do you?  I know at least one who is an extremely intelligent attorney,
hard-working, knowledgeable, personable, popular, an excellent choice
for any case,  to whom lack of integrity is a foreign concept :) :):)
(Yes, she's my daughter.)
Matthew - 29 Nov 2006 14:55 GMT
>>Pss  I HATE F@CKING LAWYERS even though I have already one of my cases now
>>just a few more to go and one big one :-(
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> for any case,  to whom lack of integrity is a foreign concept :) :):)
> (Yes, she's my daughter.)

Sorry it should have been going to F@cking lawyers.  I have several in my
family also
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Nov 2006 15:14 GMT
> >Pss  I HATE F@CKING LAWYERS even though I have already one of my cases now
> >just a few more to go and one big one :-(
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> for any case,  to whom lack of integrity is a foreign concept :) :):)
> (Yes, she's my daughter.)

You must be *very* proud of her. I hate to see *anyone* broad-blanket
lawyers. We have a board member who is a family-law attorney.
 It's really ironic when you think about the lawyer-jokes--they
primarily apply to the ambulance-chasers, not attorneys like your
daughter and my friend--but without the sue-happy, entitlement-driven
public, they'd be out of work.

Sherry
-L. - 30 Nov 2006 07:13 GMT
> I was surprised that America had no welfare provision for single people who
> find themselves in difficult circumstances, out of work.

There are plenty of jobs available.  Able-bodied adults are expected to
work in this country.
The problem is people like Jill think themselves too good for menial
jobs and then bitch and moan about "The Mexicans" taking all the jobs
here.  The truth is the immigrants - illegal and otherwise - form many
countries are willing and able to work jobs - any jobs - to support
themselves and their families.  Many work 2 or 3 jobs to do so, walk,
take public transportation, or ride bicycles to work (which you see in
Central CA all the time) because they can't afford cars.  Back in the
50's and 60's Americans were willing to do this as well.  But we have
lost our work ethic.  It's shameful.

-L.
cybercat - 30 Nov 2006 14:14 GMT
>> I was surprised that America had no welfare provision for single people
>> who
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> jobs and then bitch and moan about "The Mexicans" taking all the jobs
> here.

All true. Jill is abusing the system. There are people who genuinely need
food stamps, who are working hard but have too many mouths to feed,
would take any job, but nothing they are qualified for pays enough.

And Jill is not the only able-bodied, lazy f.ck to do it, either.

You KNOW who you are.
-L. - 30 Nov 2006 17:04 GMT
> All true. Jill is abusing the system. There are people who genuinely need
> food stamps, who are working hard but have too many mouths to feed,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You KNOW who you are.

Any grown-a.s who has their Daddy take care of them doesn't deserve
public assisatnce.  She turns down the house he offers to buy for her
(!!), takes his money every month and then wishes him DEAD.  Thenshe
has the gall to go crawling to the government for assistance.
Un-f.cking-believable!

-L.
Christina Websell - 30 Nov 2006 17:26 GMT
>> I was surprised that America had no welfare provision for single people
>> who
>> find themselves in difficult circumstances, out of work.
>
> There are plenty of jobs available.

Do you live near Jill?   If not, how do you know what the job situation is
there?  Have you tried to get a job as a 45+ year old woman?  (your quote.)
I don't think you have.

> Able-bodied adults are expected to
> work in this country.

They are here, too.  However, our welfare system accepts that sometimes
employers would rather give a job to a younger person that they can pay
less, rather than an older one with lots of experience that sometimes has to
walk with a stick who they perceive might be unreliable with their sickness
record.
Until 2001 I was in good health.  Then I started to lose my sight and had
to have a series of eye operations.  No sooner was I back at work than I had
to have another operation.  I finally went back to work - permanently I
thought - in January 05.  In April 05 I was back in hospital with ovarian
cancer.   Went back to work 14 weeks later - too soon but I had run out of
sick pay.  Now I will be off work again shortly again as my large incision
has broken down and needs repairing in two places.

You seem to be in a good position, Lyn.  Your husband can earn enough for
you to stay at home and look after your child.
Single people are in a very vulnerable position if, for whatever reason,
they are unable to work.
Fortunately our government recognises this and will not let us starve.  They
give a single person  with no savings less than 100 dollars a week to pay
all utilities and buy food - which is expensive here.  So we can at least
not die of starvation which would be terribly embarrassing for a welfare
state.

> The problem is people like Jill think themselves too good for menial
> jobs and then bitch and moan about "The Mexicans" taking all the jobs
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> 50's and 60's Americans were willing to do this as well.  But we have
> lost our work ethic.  It's shameful.

And this is quite OK, you think?   Working two or three jobs in order to
live, and walking miles to work?  Of course it isn't.  "That" is shameful.

You do not need to be ashamed of being American.  You need to be ashamed of
the judgmental views you expressed here towards another member, and your
foul mouth.  Were you drunk, or what?

Tweed
Nomen Nescio - 30 Nov 2006 19:20 GMT
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From: "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk>

>Working two or three jobs in order to
>live, and walking miles to work?  Of course it isn't.  "That" is shameful.

Good thing we kicked the British back to their little island a couple
of centuries ago.

Now, if we could hand a rifle to everyone on welfare and drop them
in Iraq, we might solve a few more problems.
-L. - 30 Nov 2006 23:27 GMT
> Do you live near Jill?   If not, how do you know what the job situation is
> there?

There are jobs available all over the US.  McDonald's pays
$8.00-$16.00/hr depending on where one lives - and they ALWAYS have
jobs open. Temp agencies will take anyone with a HS diploma.   If you
pop the term "entry level" into monster.com for Memphis, it pulls up
190 jobs.  Surely to God Princess Jill is qualified for at least ONE
entry-level position - where training is provided.

> Have you tried to get a job as a 45+ year old woman?  (your quote.)
> I don't think you have.

I don't need to, and my job status isn't the point.  I'm not the one
sucking off society.  There are jobs available - Jill just is "too
good" to take them.

> > Able-bodied adults are expected to
> > work in this country.
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> walk with a stick who they perceive might be unreliable with their sickness
> record.

You take the job you can get instead of the job you want.  Hell, I
wanted the perfect job, too - who doesn't?  The truth is I had to
scrape boots for the first year of my career until I could prove myself
worthy of a higher-paying job.  I qualified for government cheese and
food stamps but I considered those programs to be for the truly needy -
those families with kids where the kids are in dire circumstances
through no fault of their own.   There were times when I ate beans and
peanut butter because that's all I had.  You do what you have to do to
get by.  Sorry, but I have absolutely NO sympathy nor patience for
someone who lives off their Daddy and the Government, yet has computer
service, PETS (which are a luxury),  and buys expensive figurines as
gifts - among all the other niceties she has posted about.  No patience
what-so-ever.

>  Until 2001 I was in good health.  Then I started to lose my sight and had
> to have a series of eye operations.  No sooner was I back at work than I had
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> sick pay.  Now I will be off work again shortly again as my large incision
> has broken down and needs repairing in two places.

Medical issues are a problem - if you cannot work due to ill health,
you cannot work.  That's not Jill's situation.  Here, you would be
either temporarily or permanently disabled, and may qualify for
benefits.

> You seem to be in a good position, Lyn.  Your husband can earn enough for
> you to stay at home and look after your child.

I am also independently wealthy because I invested wisely in my 20's
and 30's.  My husband works because he founded the company as an
investment - it's a gamble that may make us multi-millions.  He doesn't
have to work - he chooses to.  But he's the type who thrives on it.  He
never sits down.

> Single people are in a very vulnerable position if, for whatever reason,
> they are unable to work.

I was single for 36 years.  I know exactly what it feels like to be
vulnerable in that manner.

> Fortunately our government recognises this and will not let us starve.  They
> give a single person  with no savings less than 100 dollars a week to pay
> all utilities and buy food - which is expensive here.  So we can at least
> not die of starvation which would be terribly embarrassing for a welfare
> state.

I agree that a safety net should exist for those who truely deserve it.
Jill has posted about her father forbidding her to take certain jobs,
and about the job requirements she has.  How long does one suck off
others before enough is enough?  Does the woman have no pride?  I would
- and did - wash dishes for a living before I asked a relative to
support me.  Hell, vet or kennel assistants make $12/hour or more, and
there is no requirement other than a HS degree.  She could care for
cats all day and get paid to do so.

> > The problem is people like Jill think themselves too good for menial
> > jobs and then bitch and moan about "The Mexicans" taking all the jobs
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> And this is quite OK, you think?   Working two or three jobs in order to
> live, and walking miles to work?  Of course it isn't.  "That" is shameful.

No, it's not.  It's doing what you have to do to get by.  People who do
so work their way up quickly and start making more money, and
eventually have to only work one job.  A good work ethic is rewarded in
most instances because so few people here have one anymore.  What is
shameful is thinking yourself too f.cking good to work a menial job.
Pride is a deadly sin for a reason.

> You do not need to be ashamed of being American.  You need to be ashamed of
> the judgmental views you expressed here towards another member,

I have no problem what-so-ever being judgemental.  The woman makes me
sick.  Apparently I'm not alone in my assessment.

>and your
> foul mouth.

I use the entire complement of the English language.  If you don't like
it, killfile me - I can assure you, unlike the fragile twits in this
group, it won't bother me one bit.

>Were you drunk, or what?

Now that's just silly.  Someone uses a word you don't like so you
assume they are drunk.  Come, now, you're smarter than that.

For the record, Dearie, I drink maybe twice a year.  Not that its any
of your business.

-L.
Stormmee - 01 Dec 2006 01:12 GMT
I get it now you had to adopt not because G*D did not want to defile the
gene Poole with more of your sad nature... Your husband keeps moving..
"never sits..." so he can avoid your attention, makes perfect sense why you
use the filth word also, Lee, now ready to killfile and go back to lurkdoms
as this is just boring now

> > Do you live near Jill?   If not, how do you know what the job situation is
> > there?
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>
> -L.
-L. - 01 Dec 2006 02:44 GMT
> I get it now you had to adopt not because G*D did not want to defile the
> gene Poole with more of your sad nature...

You are disrespecting everyone who has ever suffered infertility with
your vile comment.  In the same vein, maybe God made you blind because
you didn't deserve to see.

You may believe in a shitty God who f.cks up people's lives for fun
but I sure don't.  In fact, I'm not sure God exists at all.  That's the
only stance that makes any logical sense - logic  - a personal
attribute which you obviously lack.

>Your husband keeps moving..
> "never sits..." so he can avoid your attention,

No dumbass, he's highly motivated - another personal attributwe you
must lack.

> makes perfect sense why you
> use the filth word also, Lee, now ready to killfile and go back to lurkdoms
> as this is just boring now

Still illiterate, I see.

-L.
Stormmee - 01 Dec 2006 03:26 GMT
The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big part of
your sad life to me.

I didn't get the kill file done so I will play...

I did not make my comment to/about the people out there who are infertile I
made it directed specifically at your situation and your lack of feelings as
demonstrated in these thread exempts you completely from that category, and
since my DH is adopted I am very familiar with the entire situation from
both sides, his mother's as an adopting parent and his as an adoptee... and
frankly all I can figure is that you really are rich enough to purchase a
child as your presentation of yourself if anything like you have done on
this group would eliminate you from any legitimate agency.

I guess from your response that you do have areas that are off limits and
not for discussion, what was it you said, if you don't want it discussed
don't put it on Usenet, so that must mean its fine for me to comment on your
fertility or lack of it since you volunteered that you adopted, so what is
the difference between that and Jill's comments about her life... or is your
child not as important as Jill's details. and as to your husband, work
alcoholic is a disease just as drinking or ripping other people and usually
has a cause if not from childhood but from current life circumstances, what
is he so afraid of that he doesn't want to stay at home with you and help
nurture the child you have.

As to my blindness. I am not sure why G*D allowed or intended me to be
blind, and it doesn't really matter, could be I did something wrong in a
former life to deserve it, could be the fact that the experimental
operations I had as a child that allowed me to see for the first twenty
years of my life mad me appreciate what sight is more than I otherwise would
have, could be that I needed to be blind because  of the experimental
surgeries I received the group of people who currently receive glaucoma
surgery are  given much longer a time to see is enough of a reason, it
really is none of my business, what is my business is to get on with my life
and let it happen without blaming others and with giving compassion and
protection to those less fortunate them I am, Lee

> > I get it now you had to adopt not because G*D did not want to defile the
> > gene Poole with more of your sad nature...
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>
> -L.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 01 Dec 2006 09:18 GMT
> The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big
> part of your sad life to me.

That's a bit narrow-minded, don't you think? How do you know whether
someone you've never met feels that the lack of a spiritual life is a
problem for her? This isn't for you or anyone else to judge.

Joyce
-L. - 01 Dec 2006 11:31 GMT
>  > The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big
>  > part of your sad life to me.
>
> That's a bit narrow-minded, don't you think? How do you know whether
> someone you've never met feels that the lack of a spiritual life is a
> problem for her?

I have a spiritual life - I am merely an agnostic.

> This isn't for you or anyone else to judge.

What these jackasses fail to realize is that Princess Jilly invited me
here for comment.

-L.
Stormmee - 03 Dec 2006 14:21 GMT
comment is one thing filth is another, and as I recall she ask you to not do
something not continue to be filthy and rude, Lee

> >  > The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big
> >  > part of your sad life to me.
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>
> -L.
Stormmee - 03 Dec 2006 14:05 GMT
I don't think her lack of spiritual life is a problem for her, I would never
judge if anyone beyond myself should believe, that gets back to Mark's posts
about should, I am merely looking for answers to her total and complete lack
of compassion for another human being and in my quest it occurred to me that
her lack of belief could be the reason, again if you do or do not believe,
that is up to you and not for me to judge, I would never even try to
convince you otherwise unless you* the non believer* brought it up, sorry if
I didn't make this clear.  and it does not seem to be a problem to her that
she doesn't believe, and I don't consider it a problem just a fact she put
out that I am trying to put into the mix to understand her behavior and
comments towards Jill. Lee

>  > The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big
>  > part of your sad life to me.
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>
> Joyce
-L. - 01 Dec 2006 11:30 GMT
> The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big part of
> your sad life to me.
>
> I didn't get the kill file done so I will play...

<snip>

Don't bother - I'm done reading idiotic, top-posted, non-punctuated
posts from someone who has no grasp of the English language.  You're a
dime a dozen.

-L.
cybercat - 01 Dec 2006 19:04 GMT
>> The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big part
>> of
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> posts from someone who has no grasp of the English language.  You're a
> dime a dozen.

Sad but true.
Stormmee - 03 Dec 2006 14:19 GMT
odd as I have earned part of my living writing, Lee

> >> The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big part
> >> of
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>
> Sad but true.
Stormmee - 03 Dec 2006 14:19 GMT
you have never been specific about the grammar, I will pray for you to be
happier as I truly feel sorry for you, Lee

> > The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big part of
> > your sad life to me.
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>
> -L.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Dec 2006 22:29 GMT
> you have never been specific about the grammar,

I think she's talking about the fact that your posts have extremely
long, run-on sentences, with almost no commas or periods. And while I
really don't care if someone's grammar or spelling isn't perfect, it
does have an effect on me when somebody's writing style is difficult to
read. Your posts are usually very short, so it mostly doesn't matter.
But when you've occasionally posted a longer message, I've had a hard
time following the narrative because of the lack of punctuation, etc.

Anyway, this is meant in a friendly way, just to answer what I felt
was an implied request for information. Feel free to ignore. :)

Joyce
Stormmee - 04 Dec 2006 00:35 GMT
not at all ready to ignore an intelligent well thought out answer, thank you
for being specific.  I do use rather long sentences and try to keep my posts
short for that reason, again thank you for being both polite and specific,
Lee

>  > you have never been specific about the grammar,
>
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>
> Joyce
Jack Campin - bogus address - 04 Dec 2006 02:10 GMT
[blind people's writing on Usenet]
> I think she's talking about the fact that your posts have extremely
> long, run-on sentences, with almost no commas or periods.

I have a blind friend I've exchanged hundreds of emails with.  The
single most difficult thing is that she doesn't use many blank lines.

When a sighted person starts a new paragraph, they will usually
insert two carriage returns to create a visually perceptible
space before it.

The effect is that you can see from a distance where the distinct
thoughts in the message are, even without reading a single word.
So you get the overall structure first, using nonverbal visual
perception.  An auditory analogue might be the instrumental bits
in between verses of a song.

Can you manage that with your software?

==============  j-c  ======  @  ======  purr . demon . co . uk  ==============
Jack Campin:  11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
<http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/>   for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
Stormmee - 04 Dec 2006 02:34 GMT
I never thought about it but that would make it easier...

one of the other quirks to the speech software that I have realized is that
when answering a post most sighted people hit the reply button and begin to
type.  if you do this with the software I use you must stop mid thought and
hit a key combination or it only lets you write in one paragraph because it
refuses to let you do a hard return, Thanks for the suggestions, Lee

> [blind people's writing on Usenet]
> > I think she's talking about the fact that your posts have extremely
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> <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/>   for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
> stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557
Christina Websell - 03 Dec 2006 22:02 GMT
>> The fact that you have difficulty in believing in G*D explains a big part
>> of
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> posts from someone who has no grasp of the English language.  You're a
> dime a dozen.

Lee, having no sight, is probably using a speech to text program which
blurts out what she says exactly as she says it.
Go away and feel ashamed.  Better still, cover your eyes for a week and try
to post to the ng yourself.
Bleh.

Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 03 Dec 2006 22:33 GMT
> Lee, having no sight, is probably using a speech to text program which
> blurts out what she says exactly as she says it.

Oh, I didn't realize this. No wonder the lack of commas, etc. Makes
sense now.

Lee, I hope you didn't take my comments as a put-down of you. You seemed
interested in what the issue was, and I answered from my own perspective.
But as I said, feel free to ignore. I can imagine it would be a pain in
the butt to have to tell a speech recognition program when to insert
punctuation all the time.

Joyce
Stormmee - 04 Dec 2006 00:39 GMT
again I do appreciate what you wrote, both specific and polite.  I actually
do type my messages and the screen reader is "supposed to tell me what I
typed" unfortunately sometimes when I hit a key the reader says it but it
does not make it to the message and I don't always realize this.  It seems
to happen mostly with punctuation and the word the. and just to reassure
you, I was not in the least offended or put off by your post, Lee

>  > Lee, having no sight, is probably using a speech to text program which
>  > blurts out what she says exactly as she says it.
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>
> Joyce
-L. - 04 Dec 2006 09:30 GMT
> Lee, having no sight, is probably using a speech to text program which
> blurts out what she says exactly as she says it.

Well, if that's the case she isn't using it properly because most of
them are designed to type coherent sentences.

> Go away and feel ashamed.

Why would I feel ashamed?

>  Better still, cover your eyes for a week and try
> to post to the ng yourself.

I'm partially blind myself, dumbass.

-L.
Stormmee - 04 Dec 2006 17:37 GMT
I was partially blind for years, its not even close, you are also very rude,
Lee

> > Lee, having no sight, is probably using a speech to text program which
> > blurts out what she says exactly as she says it.
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>
> -L.
-L. - 04 Dec 2006 20:51 GMT
> I was partially blind for years, its not even close, you are also very rude,

I didn't say it was the same thing, sh.t-for-brains.  Learn to use your
equipment properly.

-L.
Stormmee - 08 Dec 2006 00:29 GMT
you said "also " so if you have any grasp of the language you are supposed
to be using you would recognize that as an equivalent statement, sorry if
that confuses you.  Seems you have anatomy locations confused also, hhmmm,
could be part of your family issues as well, Lee

> > I was partially blind for years, its not even close, you are also very rude,
>
> I didn't say it was the same thing, sh.t-for-brains.  Learn to use your
> equipment properly.
>
> -L.
cybercat - 04 Dec 2006 20:32 GMT
>> Lee, having no sight, is probably using a speech to text program which
>> blurts out what she says exactly as she says it.
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>
> I'm partially blind myself, dumbass.

Pssst!

Hey, Lyn!

No, over here------------> (don't think they're jetting off the high
                                           end of the IQ charts over here
in anecdolts, do you?)

shhhhhh ....

low five, lowwwww five!

*snicker*
-L. - 04 Dec 2006 20:53 GMT
> Pssst!
>
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>                                             end of the IQ charts over here
> in anecdolts, do you?)

Sadly, it's really like shooting fish in a barrel...

-L.
Stormmee - 08 Dec 2006 00:30 GMT
you do have an overinflated opinion of yourself.  I do see how the cruelty
of shooting fish would appeal to such an individual as yourself, Lee

> > Pssst!
> >
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>
> -L.
Kreisleriana - 29 Nov 2006 02:49 GMT
>BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
>didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
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>
>Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

Jill, we are so pleased for you.  You more than deserved a break.

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CATherine - 29 Nov 2006 03:47 GMT
>BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
>didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
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>
>Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

Congratulations! And you still get to keep your IRA! I didn't. In
Colorado it is considered a resource. So I had to spend mine and
scrimp to make it last until I was old enough to qualify for Old Age
Pension at 60. Although I had friends helping me a bit here and there.
One friend got food from SHARE and gave me some of it that he didn't
like. But once you are a real senior citizen, then it is much easier
to get the government help you need. Like SSD and SSI. Do you have any
medical insurance? Purrs,

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jmcquown - 29 Nov 2006 04:17 GMT
>> BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that
>> I didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I
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> Congratulations! And you still get to keep your IRA! I didn't. In
> Colorado it is considered a resource.

Actually, I didn't really get to keep my IRA.  I've been living off of it
with early distributions when I could get help from my parents or John.
It's pretty much depleted.

> So I had to spend mine and
> scrimp to make it last until I was old enough to qualify for Old Age
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> to get the government help you need. Like SSD and SSI. Do you have any
> medical insurance? Purrs,

Unfortunately no, I don't have medical insurance.  At one time I had a
policy through USAA (they provide insurance and financial services to
military personnel and their dependents).  But it was a temporary policy, 6
months, and when I inquired about renewing it I was told they no longer
offer it.

I'm not eligible for TennCare/Medicaid because I'm not eligible for the
Families First program; that is, I don't have children.  There is what they
call the Spend-Down program within Medicaid for "medically needy"
individuals whose medical bills exceed their income.  But the state web site
adds this caveat:
" Effective close of business on 4-29-05, only children and pregnant women
may be considered for Medically Needy."

So once again, I lose out because I don't have children.  Never mind that
the state has no idea whether or not I could even have *had* children (which
at my age isn't possible).  They do their damndest to screw over those who
don't.  It ticks me off.

Jill
jmcquown - 29 Nov 2006 04:49 GMT
>>> BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that
>>> I didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I
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> of it with early distributions when I *COULDN'T* get help from my parents
> or John. It's pretty much depleted.

Jill
CATherine - 30 Nov 2006 02:33 GMT
>Unfortunately no, I don't have medical insurance.  At one time I had a
>policy through USAA (they provide insurance and financial services to
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>
>Jill

There is a saying about there is always someone to fall through the
cracks in the system. And you found a big crack. Now if you can just
manage to stay alive until you are old enough for Social Security...Or
maybe you can get disabled; although that is no fun. It is getting
harder and harder to survive till retirement age. But at least now you
can eat and free up a bit of former food money for something else. I
am praying for you to get some more good news, like a decent job, or a
windfall of a zillion dollars!;-) Purrs,

--
CATherine
Sam - 29 Nov 2006 04:20 GMT
> BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
> didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
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>
> Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

Big time HaPpY dAnCiNg with you, Miss Persia and Peaches.  That should
buy some *really* good kitty food!

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jmcquown - 29 Nov 2006 05:06 GMT
>> So finally, after all this long time, I'm actually going to get some
>> help. You can't imagine how frustrating it's been, after working
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> Big time HaPpY dAnCiNg with you, Miss Persia and Peaches.  That should
> buy some *really* good kitty food!

Thanks!  But I'm sure the vet doesn't take food stamps :)  Persia's on
prescription food.  I have to use my last FREE BAG coupon for Persia's
prescription food by the end of December.  After that, Purina sent me a
couple of $5 off coupons which go into 2007.
Marina - 29 Nov 2006 05:12 GMT
> Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

That's wonderful, Jill. Congratulations!

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Victor Martinez - 29 Nov 2006 12:40 GMT
> Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

YAY!!! We're so happy for you!!!

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Lesley - 29 Nov 2006 14:13 GMT
.  It dawned on me, she'd
>approved me for benefits!  YAY!  Happy Dance!!!  After that I'll get $150 a
>month credited to the card to use for buying groceries.
>
>  CONGRATULATIONS!

I know how bad it can be, been there, done that and never ever want to do it
again!

In the UK, a single person without kids can get some money through it's not a
lot

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Randy - 29 Nov 2006 18:21 GMT
>BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
>didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
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>
>Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

Glad to hear that you're going to get some help.

Huggs and purrs,
Randy

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Gandalf - 02 Dec 2006 05:24 GMT
>BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
>didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
>Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

While I'm very happy for you that you are getting food stamp assistance,
I have been working steadily, full time, with only one interruption (due
to a layoff), for 31 1/2 years.

My budget allows $60 a month for food. I don't get much fresh produce,
or meat,  but I'm hardly starving.

Thanks to middle age metabolism slow down, I only eat 2 meals a day. If
I ate 3, I'd get fat pretty quickly.

I can't imagine spending, let alone eating, $150 worth of food in a
month.

Enjoy it while it lasts, and stock up on canned goods and other non
perishables!

~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Life without cats would be only marginally worth living."
-TC, and the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico kitty, Kenzie.

How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven.
- Robert Heinlein

Life is very difficult. Once you understand that, life becomes easier.
-Buddha
sriddles@aol.com - 02 Dec 2006 05:53 GMT
> >BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
> >didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
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> I can't imagine spending, let alone eating, $150 worth of food in a
> month.

I thought about that, too. $150 seems like a lot for one person.  DH &
I eat pretty simply, because that's what we grew up on and that's what
we like.  I'm pretty sure we don't spend $150 a month on consumable
food alone.  (Add in the paper goods, cleaning supplies, etc. and
that's another story)

Sherry
-L. - 02 Dec 2006 06:26 GMT
> I thought about that, too. $150 seems like a lot for one person.  DH &
> I eat pretty simply, because that's what we grew up on and that's what
> we like.  I'm pretty sure we don't spend $150 a month on consumable
> food alone.  (Add in the paper goods, cleaning supplies, etc. and
> that's another story)

I have absolutely no idea what we spend.  I know I spend around $300
during our one "big shop" each month and then I have side trips where I
pick up fresh produce.  I suspect we spend around $450.00 but that if
for the three of us and includes canned cat food, cleaning supplies,
paper products and diapers/pull ups which run about $60.00 per month.
We are --> <---- this close to being rid of diapers, and I cannot wait.
J's only been in dispos for about 8 months but it's been far too long.

-L.
sriddles@aol.com - 02 Dec 2006 16:29 GMT
> > I thought about that, too. $150 seems like a lot for one person.  DH &
> > I eat pretty simply, because that's what we grew up on and that's what
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>
> -L.

Heh. We forgot to add in cat food.
We actually probably eat more healthy now than we ever did before, and
way cheaper. We just don't like so much meat anymore.  Before the
babies left the nest, it was a different story. Huge difference in the
grocery bill.
We do can vegetables in the summer, and have our own honey bees. The
yams and red potatoesin the cellar always last till way after
Christmas, and we still have a few onions. Those things make a little
difference in the bill too.
I keep throwing around the idea of keeping a few chickens. Once upon a
time I didn't get emotionally attached to chickens, but I think I would
now.

Sherry
gracecat - 02 Dec 2006 18:09 GMT
>> I thought about that, too. $150 seems like a lot for one person.  DH &
>> I eat pretty simply, because that's what we grew up on and that's what
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> -L.

I was sitting here thinking the same. One big shopping trip for about $300
and smaller bread, fresh produce, meat trips.

But I also stay at home full time with our son and we graze all day long.

I think if someone would add in what they eat out of home during work, it'll
actually add up very quickly to an expensive food budget :)

Grace
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 02 Dec 2006 06:49 GMT
> While I'm very happy for you that you are getting food stamp assistance,
> I have been working steadily, full time, with only one interruption (due
> to a layoff), for 31 1/2 years.

> My budget allows $60 a month for food. I don't get much fresh produce,
> or meat,  but I'm hardly starving.

Well, maybe if you ate a better diet, you would have to pay more. That
might not be an option for you, but if that's the case, then I'm sorry
to hear it, because a good diet is essential. I'm happy to learn that
the government considers healthy food to be a necessity!

> I can't imagine spending, let alone eating, $150 worth of food in a
> month.

I do - but then I live in a part of the country where the cost of
living is very high, and everything is more expensive than it is in
other parts of the US. And I do buy a lot of food where "a little
goes a long way", such as dried legumes and rice, pasta, etc. I eat
meat, but mostly chicken, ground turkey and a little bit of fish. So
I don't spend a fortune on meat, either. I make these big pots of
stew/casserole types of things, mostly based on rice, a legume, and
chicken, plus veggies and an inexpensive sauce. Feeds me for a whole
week.

And I don't buy liquor, or fancy, expensive snacks. I just think that
it costs a lot to eat well, by which I mean fresh, healthy, mostly
organic food. I don't mean caviar and champagne! :)

Joyce
sriddles@aol.com - 02 Dec 2006 16:23 GMT
snipped

> Well, maybe if you ate a better diet, you would have to pay more. That
> might not be an option for you, but if that's the case, then I'm sorry
> to hear it, because a good diet is essential. I'm happy to learn that
> the government considers healthy food to be a necessity!

Except they don't. These people get $150 on an access card, and the
government doesn't care what they do with it.  Just recently I was
behind a woman checking out who had a prepared bakery cake, ice cream,
rib-eye steaks, chips, and several 12-packs of soda pop. All the
makings of a fine birthday party, over $100; and she paid with her
access card. It infuriated me. And yes, it was my business. Those were
at least in part, my tax dollars.

The WIC program makes a lot more sense. They are restricted to the
purchase of healthy food. But the "food stamps" can buy anything that
can be consumed, except alcohol, if I understand correctly.

Sherry
Matthew - 02 Dec 2006 17:02 GMT
> snipped
>>
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>
> Sherry

   There are ways around that with food stamps. I have instructed my
cashiers at anytime a person using food stamps come in and pay with food
stamps.  They are too watch for certain things one is multiple small
purchases  such as 10 cent candy paying with a $1.00 food stamp bill
multiple times.  When they do that they are getting the money from food
stamp to buy non allowed items.  Also they are required to have the packet
that the food stamps come in or their card.  If they don't have it then no
purchases allowed.  Down here a lot of times the drug addicts pay their
dealers with food stamps and they try to cash in.  And if their is not
enough food stamps to return their change such as a 5 and the bill is 2.
They are not to get cash.  the manager in charge must get the food stamp
bill change from the safe.

   We had one guy come in and stupid as he was tried to buy over $750.00 in
food products ( that was 2 carts full of  prime steak and other very
expensive items ) than handed the cashier food stamps.  He did not have the
packets they came in or his "card".  The manager called the police when they
person tried threw a fit about being refused.  Turns out the guy was a
dealer in an apartment complex down the road and everyone that was using was
paying with their food stamps.  He had over 10,000 in food stamps in his
apartment with a whole lot of stolen property.  Seems like he had been doing
this for years and even had done this a few times at my store.  I wish I
knew what cashier it was I would have fired them in a heart beat.
gracecat - 02 Dec 2006 18:12 GMT
> > My budget allows $60 a month for food. I don't get much fresh produce,
> > or meat,  but I'm hardly starving.
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> to hear it, because a good diet is essential. I'm happy to learn that
> the government considers healthy food to be a necessity!

Actually I think he could afford a healthy diet on that budget.  Just one
example I know are the Steamfresh Sweet Peas (microwavable veggies). A bag
of the peas is less than $1 at Wal-Mart. And they're surprisingly cooked
just right. No mushy vitamin-less pea there.

:)
Grace
sriddles@aol.com - 04 Dec 2006 00:45 GMT
> > > My budget allows $60 a month for food. I don't get much fresh produce,
> > > or meat,  but I'm hardly starving.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> :)
> Grace

I think so, too. And remember, a bag of veggies is more than one
serving for a single person. A fresh chicken could last many meals. You
can't afford to cook gourmet, but I think you can afford to cook
healthy. (I don't think the government *should* provide gourmet food
anyway)

Sherry
Stormmee - 03 Dec 2006 14:28 GMT
since I joined WW our bill has actually gone down, but we shop sales, sister
raises chickens/fresh eggs and cans the garden, my father is a cattle
rancher so beef is also inexpensive... if you do legumes there are some nice
on line sites for bulk foods like this, very inexpensive, Lee, thinking
about chic peas at the moment

>  > While I'm very happy for you that you are getting food stamp assistance,
>  > I have been working steadily, full time, with only one interruption (due
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Joyce
polonca12000 - 02 Dec 2006 21:38 GMT
> BUT!  this one has a happy ending :)  I'd been told for 2 years that I
> didn't qualify for any sort of government assistance because (1) I don't
> have children and (2) I have an IRA.  This didn't make sense to me because
> single people have to eat, too.  I finally found a woman at the Tennessee
> Dept. of Human Services who said what I'd been told was utterly ridiculous.
<snip>
> So finally, after all this long time, I'm actually going to get some help.
> You can't imagine how frustrating it's been, after working steadily for 25
> years, to be told I didn't qualify for any help once I had no income.
>
> Jill <---breathing a HUGE sigh of relief!

That's great to hear!
Best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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