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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2006Cat mince
Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few months now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of him getting tired of it lately. He was breaking up his 2 meals into many little snacks and eating more kibble (also c/d) which is supposed to be emergency snack rations only. Who can blame him, the stuff only comes in 1 flavour and anyone would get tired of the same thing day in and day out! So I figured that since he's been doing really well and peeing freely, rather than letting it get to a desperate situation where he wouldn't eat the c/d at all anymore, I would feed him something else for a while. Decided to try the cat mince from the supermarket. It's mainly kangaroo meat, I reckon, but it must have the other cat essential nutrients added. It's raw and ground up into a paste. I tried feeding it to him before, when he first got out of quarantine and he only so-so went for it. But this time was different. He loved it and gobbled it up right away, begged for more often. Then I noticed that his energy level went through the roof and he was running around like a kitten! Also his coat looks super sleek and shiny. I fed him this for 5 days and for the last 2 days he's been back on the c/d, which he's eating ok again but definitely with less enthusiasm than the mince. Now I wonder if I shouldn't give the cat mince to him more often? I mean he's supposed to be on the c/d to prevent further crystals, but I really believe that it was the stress of the move and the quarantine that caused the crystals in the first place and now that those stresses are over the likelihood of the crystals coming back is probably fairly small. Any thoughts/opinions??? I'd ask the vet that handled his crystal case, but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask another vet that doesn't know Vino's case at all.  SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album I personally would give the mince to Vino as he's not going to be healthy if he's not eating. When Sonic and Vincent had problems with uretheral blockage from urinary crystals the vet initially gave us tablets (Urimav - a urinary acidifier) to adjust the pH of their urine. It worked well. Sonic and Vincent both refused the food prescribed by the vet (can't remember what brand it was), so we had no choice but to feed them regular cat food. It's probably best to avoid cheap cat biscuits and Go Cat cat biscuits as I suspect that these were contributing factors. We now feed our cats Whiskas (canned and biscuits) and sometimes pet mince and haven't had problems with any of them since (touch wood!). Dewi. > Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few months > now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of him getting [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few months > now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of him getting [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask another vet > that doesn't know Vino's case at all. I don't think the mince would be likely to cause urinary problems. It's just fresh meat after all. BTW I started feeding roo meat to my guys after Stirling had a nasty urinary blockage, and he's had no more problems since. > Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few > months now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of > him getting tired of it lately. We had Ishmael on it for a few years. Then they changed the formulation and he'd rather have starved than touch the stuff. He never had a struvite problem again anyway. They changed the tin at the same time as the contents - the one he liked came in tins with a rounded bottom edge so they interlocked when you stacked them. The one he didn't had a normal rolled edge on the bottom. ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 >> Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few >> months now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > interlocked when you stacked them. The one he didn't had a > normal rolled edge on the bottom. The meat is raw, it doesn't come in cans. Here, it comes in plastic bags in the frozen food section, or it comes encased in these thick sausage like casings in the refridgerated section of the supermarket. They have different ones for cats and dogs. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Any thoughts/opinions??? I'd ask the vet that handled his crystal case, > but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask another vet > that doesn't know Vino's case at all. A balanced raw-diet food is the absolute best you could feed any cat. I wish our crew would eat it, but it was a complete waste. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > > Any thoughts/opinions??? I'd ask the vet that handled his crystal case, > > but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask another vet > > that doesn't know Vino's case at all. > A balanced raw-diet food is the absolute best you could feed any cat. I > wish our crew would eat it, but it was a complete waste. Victor, can you recommend any brands of raw cat food in the US? Most of the people responding to this thread are not posting from the US, and I've never seen raw cat food, even in pet stores that sell premium stuff. Thanks, Joyce > > > Any thoughts/opinions??? I'd ask the vet that handled his crystal case, > > > but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask another vet [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >the people responding to this thread are not posting from the US, and I've >never seen raw cat food, even in pet stores that sell premium stuff. Since raw food hasn't gone through a cooking process to kill germs, it wouldn't keep in cans. Unless some pet stores have frozen raw food available, you would likely have to get it directly from a butcher or find a pet store that got it directly from a butcher. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria >>> Any thoughts/opinions??? I'd ask the vet that handled his >>> crystal case, but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > from the US, and I've never seen raw cat food, even in pet > stores that sell premium stuff. I should start by writing that I have absolutely no experience with this at all; I've only begun investigating raw feeding since sometime after I lost my Joanie. But this site seems to be a pretty good introduction, with a few links and enough for Google to help you find more: http://catinfo.org/ Cheers, b& SignatureEAC Memographer BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy ``All but God can prove this sentence true.'' > Victor, can you recommend any brands of raw cat food in the US? Most of > the people responding to this thread are not posting from the US, and I've > never seen raw cat food, even in pet stores that sell premium stuff. I can't recall the brand names (since my crew refuses to eat it, haven't bought any in a while), but Whole Foods sells one brand and my local pet store (checking website... found it) has a few: http://www.barknpurr.com/bp_specialty.html SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > I can't recall the brand names (since my crew refuses to eat it, haven't > bought any in a while), but Whole Foods sells one brand and my local pet > store (checking website... found it) has a few: > http://www.barknpurr.com/bp_specialty.html Thanks, Victor! I found a brand that sounds great, and they sell it at a store within a mile from my house - a place I buy cat food at regularly, actually! (But I've never asked about raw food before.) I'm even somewhat friends with the owners - more like friends of friends, but it's always pleasant to stop in and chat. So, great reference! I'll go by there next time I have a chance, to ask them about it. Joyce >> Any thoughts/opinions??? I'd ask the vet that handled his crystal >> case, but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask >> another vet that doesn't know Vino's case at all. > > A balanced raw-diet food is the absolute best you could feed any cat. > I wish our crew would eat it, but it was a complete waste. Yes, I think I will feed it to him much more often now. He seems so well on it and he loves it and best of all, it's super duper cheap compared to science diet. Yay! Maybe I'll alternate a can of c/d with a few days of roo and keep some c/d kibble out for snacking during the day when I'm at work. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Any thoughts/opinions??? I'd ask the vet that handled his crystal case, > but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask another vet > that doesn't know Vino's case at all. If you ask me, a raw diet is the healthiest thing you can give a cat. I seem to remember meee described this Australian cat mince once. I think she said it contained ground bone, as well as meat, so it should contain all the important nutrients. And meat is the most natural food for a cat, after all. I don't think you need to worry about crystals. It seems to me that they are usually caused by processed cat food. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few months > now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of him getting [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask another vet > that doesn't know Vino's case at all. Well, FWIW, I had one male cat who invariably developed urinary problems after every move. (Got so I automatically budgeted vet bills into my moving expenses.) Just like humans, cats can react to stress with physical symptoms. (I once read that the emotional cortex of a cat's brain is identical to that of a human's - we're not just engaging in anthropomorphism when we ascribe human reactions to them.) > I once read that the emotional cortex of a cat's brain is > identical to that of a human's - we're not just engaging in > anthropomorphism when we ascribe human reactions to them. Do you remember where you read that, Evelyn? I agree with this completely, but I sometimes get into debates with people who don't believe that other animals experience the same emotions we do, so I'd love to have more information to cite! I'll never understand why people believe that other animals don't share our emotions. The main thing (intelligence-wise) that distinguishes humans from other species is that we have a frontal cortex that gives us the ability to reason. That's a much more recent development than emotion, which I believe most, if not all, mammals share. Reptiles have a different configuration of emotion, which is less complex (we've all heard the phrase "lizard brain", which refers to basic emotions such as fear and aggression). But I agree that our mammal pets have emotions quite similar to our own. If you can point me to that article I'd love to read it. Thanks, Joyce > > I once read that the emotional cortex of a cat's brain is > > identical to that of a human's - we're not just engaging in [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Thanks, > Joyce I suppose we're raised to think that humans are superior in pretty much all ways and it's hard for most people to change their ideas. I totally agree that animals are emotionally complex, especially mammals but also birds as well. In most instances I equate the emotional capacity of a non-human mammal to being more like that of a 6 yo child. Birds, I'm not sure, they may be similar to a younger child, such as a 3 yo. I suspect this to be the case as animals seem to recover more quickly than adult humans, following traumatic events. Animals also seem more open with feelings of jealously and anger, whilst most human adults would make efforts to disguise or diffuse these emotions. Dewi. > In most instances I equate the emotional capacity of a non-human mammal > to being more like that of a 6 yo child. Birds, I'm not sure, they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of jealously and anger, whilst most human adults would make efforts to > disguise or diffuse these emotions. That difference might be because of our concious thinking, which puts an overlay on our emotions, causing us to interpret them in different ways, as well as to make different decisions on how or whether to express them, etc. Maybe animals that don't have that layer of thought can process their emotions more easily, as a child who hasn't yet developed all the ideas, socialization, attitudes, and interpretations of emotion that adults have developed? I don't actually know if any of what I've just said is true, I'm just speculating. Joyce > > In most instances I equate the emotional capacity of a non-human mammal > > to being more like that of a 6 yo child. Birds, I'm not sure, they [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Joyce What you're saying makes sense, adults would do more concious, or perhaps, active thinking, such as ruminating, that would make it more difficult to recover from traumatic experiences. And society would have taught that jealousy and anger are emotions that should be controlled. Although, clearly many adults aren't controlling these emotions all that well. Dewi > I'll never understand why people believe that other animals > don't share our emotions. At the risk of touching on a taboo subject...a big part of that reason is religious. You see, at least according to most Bible-based religions (and probably some others), people have souls and animals don't...and it's the soul that gives us the emotions that make us human. It's also tied into the whole ``dominion over the animals'' thing in Genesis: it's hard to justify doing whatever the hell you want to do to an animal if you have to acknowledge that it's got many of the same qualities that are supposed to be exclusively yours and make you special. And, in a probably vain effort to head off the inevitable resulting religious flame war...well, first, I don't hold to any of those beliefs, myself -- I rather find them quite repulsive, actually. But, more to the point: whether or not they're justifiable in any way -- let alone based in reality -- I'm sure we can all think of plenty of examples of people who /do/ hold those beliefs, and who hold them quite passionately. And all I'm trying to point out is that this is the explanation for why these people believe that animals don't share our emotions. Considering the ``Rainbow Bridge'' myth that's so popular in this 'froup, I'm guessing that few people here accept this particular bit of dogma. Nevertheless, I've set the Followup-To: header to talk.atheism, which would be a much more appropriate place to continue this branch of the discussion for anybody who thinks it's worth discussing further. Cheers, b& SignatureEAC Memographer BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy ``All but God can prove this sentence true.'' You're a very brave man bringing up the "R" word here! ;) I do share similar views as you on this topic. Dewi. > You're a very brave man bringing up the "R" word here! ;) I do share > similar views as you on this topic. Actually, I think even the most "fundamentalist" among the group here takes issue with the assumption that animals lack either emotions or souls! > Dewi. > > I once read that the emotional cortex of a cat's brain is > > identical to that of a human's - we're not just engaging in [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > If you can point me to that article I'd love to read it. It was so long ago, I'm not sure. I think it was in a book by (anthropologist?) Desmond Morse(Morris?), but I'm not sure. I may even still have the book, but I haven't gotten around to unpacking them after the move to Arizona. (I'm still dealing with my kitchen gear, now the roaches seem to be more-or-less under control.) > Thanks, > Joyce > It was so long ago, I'm not sure. I think it was in a book by > (anthropologist?) Desmond Morse(Morris?), but I'm not sure. I may > even still have the book, but I haven't gotten around to unpacking > them after the move to Arizona. (I'm still dealing with my kitchen > gear, now the roaches seem to be more-or-less under control.) I have one book about cats by Desmond Morris, but I can't find it now, either. I don't remember that passage in it, but it's been a very long time since I read it. I believe he has written several books about cats. <brief glance into Amazon> yes, he does. The one I have is called Catwatching. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki The one I have is called >Catwatching. He also did a follow-up to that called Catlore fascinating reading I was only looking at them Saturday night to settle an argument on another ng I didn't find what I was looking for although I am sure it's in there somewhere but I guess someone here can answer it Do cats walk on their toes? I am fairly sure they do but I've got some prat who says they don't and this means a certain operation (Not going to swear here) can't be blamed at all for arthritis in older cats Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > Do cats walk on their toes? I am fairly sure they do but I've got some prat > who says they don't and this means a certain operation (Not going to swear > here) can't be blamed at all for arthritis in older cats Yes - they are 'digitigrade' (walking on the toes), we are 'plantigrade' - walking on the flat of our feet. A cat's heel is halfway up its leg, its knee almost up by the torso. :-) Deb. Signaturehttp://www.scientific-art.com "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield >Yes - they are 'digitigrade' (walking on the toes), we are 'plantigrade' >- walking on the flat of our feet. A cat's heel is halfway up its leg, >its knee almost up by the torso. :-) Thanks I knew someone would know the answer and the correct terminology within minutes of asking Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > The one I have is called >> Catwatching. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs I am fairly sure they do too. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > Do cats walk on their toes? I am fairly sure they do but I've got some prat > who says they don't and this means a certain operation (Not going to swear > here) can't be blamed at all for arthritis in older cats Which operation? Do you mean de***w? That's blamed for arthritis? They do walk on their toes, if all the tv shows about cats I've ever seen are correct. Joyce > They do walk on their toes, if all the tv shows about cats I've ever > seen are correct. As I said to the poster "They do...but if your cat has been done you won't see it" He accused me of being unrealistic since he had to buy his own furniture..Like I don't? Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs >> They do walk on their toes, if all the tv shows about cats I've ever >> seen are correct. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs I'm so glad that de-clawing is illegal in almost all coutries outside north america. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >>They do walk on their toes, if all the tv shows about cats I've ever >>seen are correct. > > As I said to the poster "They do...but if your cat has been done you > won't see it" He accused me of being unrealistic since he had to buy > his own furniture..Like I don't? I certainly don't advocate declawing, but I think you are attributing far more harm to the operation than is actually evident. My Cendrillon (Cinderella) - whom I rescued when a neighbor moved out and left her behind - had been declawed, but her behaviour, manner of walking, etc. are indistinguishable from a "normal" cat. (In fact, she seems to manage to jump onto higher furniture than any other cat I've ever had.) I guess no one ever told HER she could no longer indulge in instinctive behaviour like "claw sharpening", because she certainly does, even though there are no claws to sharpen. >>>They do walk on their toes, if all the tv shows about cats I've ever >>>seen are correct. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > like "claw sharpening", because she certainly does, even though there are > no claws to sharpen. Well, fortunately for you, you didn't see her just after her declawing, when it must have been very painful for her to walk or use her litterbox. It's a barbaric practice which should have been banned everywhere in the world by now. Cats come with claws on all four feet. If anyone can't cope with that, I suggest they don't have one in the first place. I promised myself I would try not to join in on a declawing thread but sometimes I can't help it! My issue is this: How can it be right to amputate a kitten's first knuckle to protect your furniture? and what's more, how do you get an ethical vet to do it? I know what would happen if I asked my vet to routinely declaw, he would strike me off his case list. The only reason a cat would be declawed here would be if it had a really bad nailbed infection that could not be cured *any* other way. It's a real puzzle to me to find that some people think it's quite okay to get this done along with a spay/neuter. Tweed >>>>They do walk on their toes, if all the tv shows about cats I've ever >>>>seen are correct. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > It's a barbaric practice which should have been banned everywhere in the > world by now. > Cats come with claws on all four feet. If anyone can't cope with that, I > suggest they don't have one in the first place. I couldn't agree more! (I thought I made it clear that the declawing took place long before I made her acquaintance - I had nothing to do with it!) Should I have refused to give her a home because she no longer has her claws? Whatever traumas she may have endured from the surgery, she behaves like any normal cat, now - I was simply refuting the ignorant assumption that a declawed cat must forever eschew normal feline behaviour. (I certainly wasn't endorsing the practice, but cats have overcome even worse handicaps, yet remained their charming feline selves.) EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) kirjoitti: > It was so long ago, I'm not sure. I think it was in a book by > (anthropologist?) Desmond Morse(Morris?), but I'm not sure. I may even > still have the book, but I haven't gotten around to unpacking them after > the move to Arizona. (I'm still dealing with my kitchen gear, now the > roaches seem to be more-or-less under control.) Here's Desmond Morris's official website, http://www.desmond-morris.com/ and here's what's written about him in Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Morris It might help in finding the book or article you read. On his official site, the books are shown with pictures of the cover and the articles listed by year. SignatureChristine in Laitila, Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com photos: http://photos.yahoo.com/christal63 photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/chkr63 >Do you remember where you read that, Evelyn? I agree with this >completely, but I sometimes get into debates with people who don't >believe that other animals experience the same emotions we do, so >I'd love to have more information to cite! Have you heard of Dr. Temple Grandin? You might find her interesting. She's an animal behaviorist and professor at Colorado State University. She is autistic, and claims that this gives her special insight into animal behavior. She says that most non-human animal species think like autistics in that they have greater environmental awareness at the expense of having a subconscious. Grandin claims that she does not have a subconscious, but that all her thoughts are at the surface. I read about her a while back in an issue of Discover, but here is some background on her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin > >Do you remember where you read that, Evelyn? I agree with this > >completely, but I sometimes get into debates with people who don't > >believe that other animals experience the same emotions we do, so > >I'd love to have more information to cite! > Have you heard of Dr. Temple Grandin? You might find her interesting. I was completely riveted to her book Animals in Translation, which I read earlier this year. It's by far the best book I've read in a long time. The bibliography she used for her research is listed at the end of the book, and that in itself is full of great stuff. I really want to read the book about Alex, the African grey parrot who was trained to use language (which he can also actually speak, of course) at the level of a 6-year-old child. My library doesn't have it, though, so I guess I'll have to put a crowbar in my wallet and buy it. :) > She is autistic, and claims that this gives her special > insight into animal behavior. She says that most non-human animal > species think like autistics in that they have greater environmental > awareness at the expense of having a subconscious. Grandin claims > that she does not have a subconscious, but that all her thoughts are > at the surface. How I remember it was that humans are able to filter through all our incoming sensory data, and we only notice a fraction of it - whatever our brains tell us is important. In fact, we're not only *able* to do this, we can't help it. It's part of how we're wired as humans. Other animals don't have those filters, so they notice a lot more details. And she believes that as an autistic human, her brain's ability to filter out details doesn't work so well, so she sees and notices everything. Which is one reason why autistic savants can do things like draw something from memory, with every single detail included and represented accurately. I guess it was an advantage for humans to filter out details in the environment and only notice those things that are related to their survival. But we lost a lot in the process. Joyce >> Do you remember where you read that, Evelyn? I agree with this >> completely, but I sometimes get into debates with people who don't [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I read about her a while back in an issue of Discover, but here is > some background on her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin Is she the woman who helped to improve the conditions for cattle in slaughter houses by understanding their emotions? SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk -- Adrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > Is she the woman who helped to improve the conditions for cattle in > slaughter houses by understanding their emotions? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Cats leave pawprints on your heart. > http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk I was wondering the same thing. If so, I've seen her on a documentary. Dewi. > Is she the woman who helped to improve the conditions for cattle in > slaughter houses by understanding their emotions? that's her... an absolutely fascinating woman. Katrina SignatureHistory: special people in special places at special times Anthropology: everyone else the rest of the time -KWorley, 1997 >Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few months >now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of him getting >tired of it lately. He was breaking up his 2 meals into many little If he likes the cat mince I'd say go for it... 'cooked' catfood is more for the benefit of the squeamish owners than the felines - it's not like you see a lot of cats gathering around the campfire to cook their prey before they eat it! > Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few months > now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of him getting [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album Rusty reblocked after eating dry C/D exclusively for over a year. After that he was switched to prescription canned food only. Just make sure Vino drinks lots of water. I add water to Rusty's canned food and adjust the amount of water added based on his litter box output. Meat helps to acidify the urine and helps prevent struvite crystals formation. Winnie Spock, who had bad urinary blockage from styruvite crystals, refuses to eat c/d wet anything more often than occasionally. I give him c/d dry every day (he loves it) - a 1/4 cup ration each day, and then either fortified roo mince (fortified with kitty vitamins) or non-fish whiskas. It's been more than a year since Spock's problem and he's 100% fine. He loves, loves, loves the roo mince - to the extent where I have to strictly ration how much I give him at any one meal otherwise he scarfs it all down and vomits it straight back up because he's over-eaten. I also find that he's nice and energetic after the mince and his poos are less stinky. I figure that fresh raw meat has a high water content and, combined with c/d dry, his urine is sufficiently acidic to prevent crystals reforming. Great to hear that Vino is doing so well. Tish >Even though Vino has been eating the science diet c/d for a few months >now and likes it just fine, I was noticing some signs of him getting [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >but she's gone and moved back to Purrth so I'd have to ask another vet >that doesn't know Vino's case at all. |
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