Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2006
Miss Chloe and her nerves
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kilikini - 15 Nov 2006 14:12 GMT I don't know what it is with Miss Chloe, but she's been pulling the fur out of the inside of her back legs. I see no signs of skin allergy, no redness, no itching, no fleas (we're Advantage users), but when she gets nervous or scolded or feels neglected, she goes into a corner and literally pulls her hair out.
What the heck? I've never had a cat with an insecurity disorder like this before.
She has taken over Miss Pua's favorite chair effectively blocking Miss Pua's water glass, which indicates to me that it's a heirarchy issue and I think she's jealous of Pua somehow. They get ample attention, ample scritches. *But* Chloe wanders around the house, crying all the time. Trust me, she's not sick! She eats like a horse and is properly using her litterbox. I think she's got anxiety disorder!
I have NO idea what to do to fix it.
Any suggestions?
kili -- http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
Karen - 15 Nov 2006 17:14 GMT Gosh the only thing I can think of is adding some Feliway. If she is getting plenty of attention, I don't know. I wonder, what if you can give her special yummy treats only when she is near Pua so she starts associating her with a good thing?
> I don't know what it is with Miss Chloe, but she's been pulling the fur out > of the inside of her back legs. I see no signs of skin allergy, no redness, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > -- > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini kilikini - 16 Nov 2006 12:48 GMT > Gosh the only thing I can think of is adding some Feliway. If she is > getting plenty of attention, I don't know. I wonder, what if you can > give her special yummy treats only when she is near Pua so she starts > associating her with a good thing? My husband suggested Feliway, too, but gosh, it's expensive! I have never had a cat with anxiety before, but Chloe fits the mold. She's an odd one.
kili -- http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
Marina - 16 Nov 2006 13:08 GMT > I have NO idea what to do to fix it. > > Any suggestions? The first sign that Nikki had hyperthyroidism was when she started pulling the fur out of the inside of her back legs, but Miss Chloe is much too young to be getting hyperthyroidism, I think. AFAIK, it's usually elderly cats who get hyperthyroid. Sorry, this wasn't much help, but I can't think of anything else, except as you say, anxiety.
 Signature Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
kilikini - 16 Nov 2006 14:32 GMT >> I have NO idea what to do to fix it. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > usually elderly cats who get hyperthyroid. Sorry, this wasn't much > help, but I can't think of anything else, except as you say, anxiety. Can cats get anxiety? I would think if a peson can, why can't a cat? She is a really, really odd cat. Seriously. My husband and I actually wonder about the stability of her mental health. I've had 10 cats in my entire lifetime and she is, by FAR, the strangest creature I've had the privilege to know. (Oh, don't worry, no matter how mentally challenged Miss Chloe is, we're not the kind of people to toss her out.) We're just trying to figure out the best way to make her less anxious, without making the other "kids" feel left out.
Suggestions welcomed.
I'm kind of also wondering what's going to happen with Chloe when I go through my extensive surgery and I *can't* be as attentive to her. Is she going to be fur-less?
kili -- http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
JB - 16 Nov 2006 15:33 GMT In <1E_6h.30760$q45.26846@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, kilikini <kilikini1@NOSPAMhotmail.com> shouted to everyone in earshot,
>Can cats get anxiety? apparently. my little Buck gets something along those lines, acts like she's going into heat even though she's spayed and at an inappropriate time of the year (late fall, mid-winter). amitriptyline helps her. she's currently on 5mg/day, and 30 10mg tablets costs just under $10 around here. of course, there are side effects, but Feliway doesn't help her problem on its own, so we have to make do. lethargy is the biggest side effect for Buck that I'm aware of, and she's put on about a pound in the year she's been on it. increased appetite is also a side effect, and that's probably why she acts so insane at feeding time nowadays.
amitriptyline is a tricyclic antidepressant that's also used to treat anxiety, insomnia, and chronic, inflammation-related pain. its brand name is Elavil. side effects besides the ones I notice in Buck are dry mouth and rapid/pounding heartbeat, both of which I experienced when I was on it for a short time for pain/insomnia reasons. I was taking 50mg/day, and adjusted for body weight, Buck's dose roughly equates to twice what mine was. (this after she was on 10mg/day for the first month.)
>She is a really, really odd cat. Seriously. My husband and I actually >wonder about the stability of her mental health. I know what you mean. Buck's a complete screwball, too, and not necessarily in an "oh, cats are so funny" way.
best wishes to you and her for this problem. I hope you can get her to a vet and get to the bottom of the problem. I do understand that it's probably not easy for you at the moment, though.
Jeff
kilikini - 16 Nov 2006 18:30 GMT > In <1E_6h.30760$q45.26846@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>, > kilikini <kilikini1@NOSPAMhotmail.com> shouted to everyone in earshot, [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Jeff Wow, okay, so my husband and I aren't crazy, it's just the cat! I wish I could take Miss Chloe in now for testing, but given the current circumstances, I'm going to have to wait a bit.
Still, you have no idea how much you just helped. Thank you!
kili -- http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
Karen - 16 Nov 2006 16:23 GMT > Can cats get anxiety? I would think if a peson can, why can't a cat? She > is a really, really odd cat. Seriously. My husband and I actually wonder [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > out the best way to make her less anxious, without making the other "kids" > feel left out. Yes, they can be anxious or have OCD. I saw someone say their cat was on amatryptaline. That is certainly a possibilty. I think you should definitely talk to a vet about it before your surgery. It's not a bad idea to make a plan.
jmcquown - 16 Nov 2006 17:21 GMT >> Can cats get anxiety? I would think if a peson can, why can't a >> cat? She is a really, really odd cat. Seriously. My husband and I [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > definitely talk to a vet about it before your surgery. It's not a bad > idea to make a plan. (sigh) This is assuming you have money for vet bills and prescription medication. I can't speak for kili but I'd have to work out payment arrangements if I had to take Persia to the vet at this point.
Jill
kilikini - 16 Nov 2006 18:32 GMT >>> Can cats get anxiety? I would think if a peson can, why can't a >>> cat? She is a really, really odd cat. Seriously. My husband and I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jill True story at that, Jill. Right now, we're focusing on me. Just got a message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-(
kili -- http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
Rhonda - 17 Nov 2006 04:21 GMT > Just got a > message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-( > > kili > -- > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini Kili,
What did they say? Are you going in soon?
I've been checking your website now and then, hoping for good news...
Rhonda
kilikini - 17 Nov 2006 12:16 GMT >> Just got a >> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-( [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rhonda Surgery is Tuesday, pre-op bloodwork and such is Monday, so we leave on Sunday. I'm *so* not looking forward to this. Ack.
kili -- http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
Marina - 17 Nov 2006 12:58 GMT > Surgery is Tuesday, pre-op bloodwork and such is Monday, so we leave on > Sunday. I'm *so* not looking forward to this. Ack. {{{Kili}}}} Lots of purrs on the way. Will be thinking of you on Monday and Tuesday.
 Signature Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
Rhonda - 17 Nov 2006 15:12 GMT >>> Just got a >>>message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-( [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini I know, but no more waiting, not more wondering, and you get to kick that stuff out of there!
I will be thinking of you next week and hope everything goes smoothly. You'll probably be up and around in no time.
Yay, I'm glad you're going to get this done, it's been a long road!
Rhonda
jmcquown - 17 Nov 2006 17:36 GMT >>> Just got a >>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-( [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > kili Of course you aren't looking forward to it; who would be? But at least now you aren't sitting around wondering "when?" I'll be lighting candles for you next week, sweetie.
Jill
Jo Firey - 18 Nov 2006 04:35 GMT >>> Just got a >>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-( [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini There is going to be some major purring going on worldwide next week. We have a house full of cardboard boxes. And it is supposed to rain. So the masters should be able to devote nearly full time to purrs.
Jo
Annie Wxill - 18 Nov 2006 16:23 GMT ...> Surgery is Tuesday, pre-op bloodwork and such is Monday, so we leave on
> Sunday. I'm *so* not looking forward to this. Ack. > kili > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini I hope all goes well and that you will have something to be really thankful for this Thanksgiving.
We are all pulling for you. Healing thoughts, prayers and purrs are on the way.
Annie & Jim, accompanied by Rosie and Cinder
polonca12000 - 18 Nov 2006 22:56 GMT >>> Just got a >>>message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-( [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini We are thinking of you and we are sending lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for everything to go really well and for you to recover completely, kili. Lots and lots of very gentle hugs just for you, Polonca and Soncek
Karen - 19 Nov 2006 00:45 GMT >>> Just got a >>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-( [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > kili Major surgery purrs. I hope it goes BETTER than expected. I'll be thinking of you.
Sam - 19 Nov 2006 02:56 GMT >>> Just got a >>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it. :-( [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini Understandable that you're not looking forward to it, but we're sending a continuous (except for sleepy time) purrs for the op and subsequent recovery to be successful and as pain-free as possible.
 Signature Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
tanada - 19 Nov 2006 19:47 GMT > Surgery is Tuesday, pre-op bloodwork and such is Monday, so we leave on > Sunday. I'm *so* not looking forward to this. Ack. > > kili > -- > http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini Good luck girl. I've got all eight owners working on purrs for you.
Pam S. sending get better thoughts for you too.
Marina - 16 Nov 2006 18:23 GMT > Yes, they can be anxious or have OCD. I saw someone say their cat was on > amatryptaline. That is certainly a possibilty. I think you should definitely > talk to a vet about it before your surgery. It's not a bad idea to make a > plan. The thought hit me that maybe she is picking up on your condition and it is upsetting her. In that case, there's not much you can do about it, is there, except hope for the best and see if she calms down after your surgery. Calming purrs on the way for Miss Chloe.
 Signature Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
Karen - 16 Nov 2006 19:37 GMT > > Yes, they can be anxious or have OCD. I saw someone say their cat was on > > amatryptaline. That is certainly a possibilty. I think you should definitely [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > there, except hope for the best and see if she calms down after your > surgery. Calming purrs on the way for Miss Chloe. You know, this is entirely possible too!
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