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Miss Chloe and her nerves

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kilikini - 15 Nov 2006 14:12 GMT
I don't know what it is with Miss Chloe, but she's been pulling the fur out
of the inside of her back legs.  I see no signs of skin allergy, no redness,
no itching, no fleas (we're Advantage users), but when she gets nervous or
scolded or feels neglected, she goes into a corner and literally pulls her
hair out.

What the heck?  I've never had a cat with an insecurity disorder like this
before.

She has taken over Miss Pua's favorite chair effectively blocking  Miss
Pua's water glass, which indicates to me that it's a heirarchy issue and I
think she's jealous of Pua somehow.  They get ample attention, ample
scritches.  *But* Chloe wanders around the house, crying all the time.
Trust me, she's not sick!  She eats like a horse and is properly using her
litterbox.  I think she's got anxiety disorder!

I have NO idea what to do to fix it.

Any suggestions?

kili
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Karen - 15 Nov 2006 17:14 GMT
Gosh the only thing I can think of is adding some Feliway. If she is getting
plenty of attention, I don't know. I wonder, what if you can give her
special yummy treats only when she is near Pua so she starts associating her
with a good thing?

> I don't know what it is with Miss Chloe, but she's been pulling the fur out
> of the inside of her back legs.  I see no signs of skin allergy, no redness,
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kilikini - 16 Nov 2006 12:48 GMT
> Gosh the only thing I can think of is adding some Feliway. If she is
> getting plenty of attention, I don't know. I wonder, what if you can
> give her special yummy treats only when she is near Pua so she starts
> associating her with a good thing?

My husband suggested Feliway, too, but gosh, it's expensive!  I have never
had a cat with anxiety before, but Chloe fits the mold.  She's an odd one.

kili
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Marina - 16 Nov 2006 13:08 GMT
> I have NO idea what to do to fix it.
>
> Any suggestions?

The first sign that Nikki had hyperthyroidism was when she started
pulling the fur out of the inside of her back legs, but Miss Chloe is
much too young to be getting hyperthyroidism, I think. AFAIK, it's
usually elderly cats who get hyperthyroid. Sorry, this wasn't much help,
but I can't think of anything else, except as you say, anxiety.

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kilikini - 16 Nov 2006 14:32 GMT
>> I have NO idea what to do to fix it.
>>
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> usually elderly cats who get hyperthyroid. Sorry, this wasn't much
> help, but I can't think of anything else, except as you say, anxiety.

Can cats get anxiety?  I would think if a peson can, why can't a cat?  She
is a really, really odd cat.  Seriously.  My husband and I actually wonder
about the stability of her mental health.  I've had 10 cats in my entire
lifetime and she is, by FAR, the strangest creature I've had the privilege
to know.  (Oh, don't worry, no matter how mentally challenged Miss Chloe is,
we're not the kind of people to toss her out.)  We're just trying to figure
out the best way to make her less anxious, without making the other "kids"
feel left out.

Suggestions welcomed.

I'm kind of also wondering what's going to happen with Chloe when I go
through my extensive surgery and I *can't* be as attentive to her.  Is she
going to be fur-less?

kili
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JB - 16 Nov 2006 15:33 GMT
In <1E_6h.30760$q45.26846@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
kilikini <kilikini1@NOSPAMhotmail.com> shouted to everyone in earshot,
>Can cats get anxiety?

apparently.  my little Buck gets something along those lines, acts
like she's going into heat even though she's spayed and at an
inappropriate time of the year (late fall, mid-winter).  amitriptyline
helps her.  she's currently on 5mg/day, and 30 10mg tablets costs just
under $10 around here.  of course, there are side effects, but Feliway
doesn't help her problem on its own, so we have to make do.  lethargy
is the biggest side effect for Buck that I'm aware of, and she's put
on about a pound in the year she's been on it.  increased appetite is
also a side effect, and that's probably why she acts so insane at
feeding time nowadays.

amitriptyline is a tricyclic antidepressant that's also used to treat
anxiety, insomnia, and chronic, inflammation-related pain.  its brand
name is Elavil.  side effects besides the ones I notice in Buck are
dry mouth and rapid/pounding heartbeat, both of which I experienced
when I was on it for a short time for pain/insomnia reasons.  I was
taking 50mg/day, and adjusted for body weight, Buck's dose roughly
equates to twice what mine was.  (this after she was on 10mg/day for
the first month.)

>She is a really, really odd cat.  Seriously.  My husband and I actually
>wonder about the stability of her mental health.

I know what you mean.  Buck's a complete screwball, too, and not
necessarily in an "oh, cats are so funny" way.

best wishes to you and her for this problem.  I hope you can get her
to a vet and get to the bottom of the problem.  I do understand that
it's probably not easy for you at the moment, though.

Jeff
kilikini - 16 Nov 2006 18:30 GMT
> In <1E_6h.30760$q45.26846@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>,
> kilikini <kilikini1@NOSPAMhotmail.com> shouted to everyone in earshot,
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>
> Jeff

Wow, okay, so my husband and I aren't crazy, it's just the cat!  I wish I
could take Miss Chloe in now for testing, but given the current
circumstances, I'm going to have to wait a bit.

Still, you have no idea how much you just helped.  Thank you!

kili
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Karen - 16 Nov 2006 16:23 GMT
> Can cats get anxiety?  I would think if a peson can, why can't a cat?  She
> is a really, really odd cat.  Seriously.  My husband and I actually wonder
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> out the best way to make her less anxious, without making the other "kids"
> feel left out.

Yes, they can be anxious or have OCD. I saw someone say their cat was on
amatryptaline. That is certainly a possibilty. I think you should definitely
talk to a vet about it before your surgery. It's not a bad idea to make a
plan.
jmcquown - 16 Nov 2006 17:21 GMT
>> Can cats get anxiety?  I would think if a peson can, why can't a
>> cat?  She is a really, really odd cat.  Seriously.  My husband and I
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> definitely talk to a vet about it before your surgery. It's not a bad
> idea to make a plan.

(sigh)  This is assuming you have money for vet bills and prescription
medication.  I can't speak for kili but I'd have to work out payment
arrangements if I had to take Persia to the vet at this point.

Jill
kilikini - 16 Nov 2006 18:32 GMT
>>> Can cats get anxiety?  I would think if a peson can, why can't a
>>> cat?  She is a really, really odd cat.  Seriously.  My husband and I
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>
> Jill

True story at that, Jill.  Right now, we're focusing on me.  Just got a
message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(

kili
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Rhonda - 17 Nov 2006 04:21 GMT
>  Just got a
> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(
>
> kili
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Kili,

What did they say? Are you going in soon?

I've been checking your website now and then, hoping for good news...

Rhonda
kilikini - 17 Nov 2006 12:16 GMT
>>  Just got a
>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(
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>
> Rhonda

Surgery is Tuesday, pre-op bloodwork and such is Monday, so we leave on
Sunday.  I'm *so* not looking forward to this.  Ack.

kili
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Marina - 17 Nov 2006 12:58 GMT
> Surgery is Tuesday, pre-op bloodwork and such is Monday, so we leave on
> Sunday.  I'm *so* not looking forward to this.  Ack.

{{{Kili}}}} Lots of purrs on the way. Will be thinking of you on Monday
and Tuesday.

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

Rhonda - 17 Nov 2006 15:12 GMT
>>> Just got a
>>>message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(
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I know, but no more waiting, not more wondering, and you get to kick
that stuff out of there!

I will be thinking of you next week and hope everything goes smoothly.
You'll probably be up and around in no time.

Yay, I'm glad you're going to get this done, it's been a long road!

Rhonda
jmcquown - 17 Nov 2006 17:36 GMT
>>>  Just got a
>>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(
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>
> kili

Of course you aren't looking forward to it; who would be?  But at least now
you aren't sitting around wondering "when?"  I'll be lighting candles for
you next week, sweetie.

Jill
Jo Firey - 18 Nov 2006 04:35 GMT
>>>  Just got a
>>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(
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There is going to be some major purring going on worldwide next week.  We
have a house full of cardboard boxes.  And it is supposed to rain.  So the
masters should be able to devote nearly full time to purrs.

Jo
Annie Wxill - 18 Nov 2006 16:23 GMT
...> Surgery is Tuesday, pre-op bloodwork and such is Monday, so we leave on
> Sunday.  I'm *so* not looking forward to this.  Ack.
> kili
> http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini

I hope all goes well and that you will have something to be really thankful
for this Thanksgiving.

We are all pulling for you.  Healing thoughts, prayers and purrs are on the
way.

Annie & Jim, accompanied by Rosie and Cinder
polonca12000 - 18 Nov 2006 22:56 GMT
>>> Just got a
>>>message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(
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We are thinking of you and we are sending lots and lots of purrs and
best wishes for everything to go really well and for you to recover
completely, kili.
Lots and lots of very gentle hugs just for you,
Polonca and Soncek
Karen - 19 Nov 2006 00:45 GMT
>>> Just got a
>>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(
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>
> kili

Major surgery purrs. I hope it goes BETTER than expected. I'll be
thinking of you.
Sam - 19 Nov 2006 02:56 GMT
>>>  Just got a
>>> message from Mayo, but I'm too afraid to listen to it.  :-(
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Understandable that you're not looking forward to it, but we're sending
a continuous (except for sleepy time) purrs for the op and subsequent
recovery to be successful and as pain-free as possible.

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Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

tanada - 19 Nov 2006 19:47 GMT
> Surgery is Tuesday, pre-op bloodwork and such is Monday, so we leave on
> Sunday.  I'm *so* not looking forward to this.  Ack.
>
> kili
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Good luck girl.  I've got all eight owners working on purrs for you.

Pam S. sending get better thoughts for you too.
Marina - 16 Nov 2006 18:23 GMT
> Yes, they can be anxious or have OCD. I saw someone say their cat was on
> amatryptaline. That is certainly a possibilty. I think you should definitely
> talk to a vet about it before your surgery. It's not a bad idea to make a
> plan.

The thought hit me that maybe she is picking up on your condition and it
is upsetting her. In that case, there's not much you can do about it, is
there, except hope for the best and see if she calms down after your
surgery. Calming purrs on the way for Miss Chloe.

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

Karen - 16 Nov 2006 19:37 GMT
> > Yes, they can be anxious or have OCD. I saw someone say their cat was on
> > amatryptaline. That is certainly a possibilty. I think you should definitely
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> there, except hope for the best and see if she calms down after your
> surgery. Calming purrs on the way for Miss Chloe.

You know, this is entirely possible too!
 
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