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Annie Wxill - 14 Nov 2006 02:50 GMT
The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't know if
this show is available internationally, but information is available at
Drphil.com.

Annie, wondering how the show will handle this issue
jmcquown - 14 Nov 2006 03:23 GMT
> The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
> disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't
> know if this show is available internationally, but information is
> available at Drphil.com.
>
> Annie, wondering how the show will handle this issue

Considering he's a psychologist (or is he a psychiatrist?) they'll probably
try to get the woman some help.  Hopefully the cats are healthy; it's
usually not the case.

Jill
kilikini - 14 Nov 2006 12:19 GMT
>> The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
>> disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't
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>
> Jill

You're right, Jill.  People who collect animals usually don't have healthy
cats, unfortunately.  I mean, how could they afford vet care on all of them?
I have three and feel overwhelmed by them sometimes, let alone having 100 or
more??????

kili
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http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/kilikini
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Nov 2006 05:46 GMT
>>The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
>>disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't
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> try to get the woman some help.  Hopefully the cats are healthy; it's
> usually not the case.

Well seeing to the care and feeding of "a couple hundred
cats", even if you have help, is no light task!  (Point of
information:  Is "Dr. Phil" a REAL psycholgist/psychiatrist,
or just a TV personality who poses as one?)
sriddles@aol.com - 15 Nov 2006 06:15 GMT
> >>The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
> >>disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't
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> information:  Is "Dr. Phil" a REAL psycholgist/psychiatrist,
> or just a TV personality who poses as one?)

He's not just posing as one, although I'm not sure exactly what his
degree is.
Of course he'll get some kind of "help" for the woman, because that's
what the show is all about. What I"m curious about is what importance
he places on the welfare of the cats.
I'm also curious what possesses these people to get on national TV and
spill their guts about their problems. I can't *imagine* doing that.

Sherry
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 15 Nov 2006 16:48 GMT
>>>>The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
>>>>disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't
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> I'm also curious what possesses these people to get on national TV and
> spill their guts about their problems. I can't *imagine* doing that.

Same mentality that prompts people to do bizarre things on
"reality" shows in hopes of getting large sums of money.
(Actually, they work harder for less return than if they got
a "real" job.)

> Sherry
Jo Firey - 15 Nov 2006 18:00 GMT
>> >>The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
>> >>disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't
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>
> Sherry

That is a major psych problem in and of itself.

We all know people who can't stay our of trouble because they thrive on the
drama.

Jo
sriddles@aol.com - 15 Nov 2006 19:41 GMT
> >> >>The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
> >> >>disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't
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>
> Jo

Yes! At work we used to call them "chaos junkies." It always seemed
like there was always upheaval in their lives, always. If there wasn't
any conflict in the workplace, they would always be the ones who
created it.

Sherry
tension_on_the_wire - 17 Nov 2006 10:28 GMT
> I'm also curious what possesses these people to get on national TV and
> spill their guts about their problems. I can't *imagine* doing that.

There is a scary percentage of people who will do just about
anything, no matter how undignified, for fifteen precious
minutes of pseudo-fame.  

--tension
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Nov 2006 17:30 GMT
>>I'm also curious what possesses these people to get on national TV and
>>spill their guts about their problems. I can't *imagine* doing that.
>
> There is a scary percentage of people who will do just about
> anything, no matter how undignified, for fifteen precious
> minutes of pseudo-fame.

If there weren't there'd be no "reality" shows on TV.  (May
that day come soon!)

> --tension
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Nov 2006 19:18 GMT
>> There is a scary percentage of people who will do just about
>> anything, no matter how undignified, for fifteen precious
>> minutes of pseudo-fame.

> If there weren't there'd be no "reality" shows on TV.  (May
> that day come soon!)

I don't understand the desire for fame. When I was a child I thought I
would love to be famous. I was taught that it's wonderful to be famous
and that everyone would have it if they could get it. But as soon as I
got old enough to realize just how terrible fame is, I was *glad* I
didn't have it. Blech! Having people recognize you on the street and
come up to talk to you whether you want them to or not, interrupting
your private moments? Projecting all sorts of fantasies on you, good,
bad, and just plain weird - sometimes acting them out? You can keep fame,
thank you - I prefer my anonymity and privacy.

Joyce
sriddles@aol.com - 16 Nov 2006 07:02 GMT
> The Dr. Phil show will feature a woman with a couple hundred cats and
> disgruntled neighbors on his show on Wednesday. Nov. 15.  I don't know if
> this show is available internationally, but information is available at
> Drphil.com.
>
> Annie, wondering how the show will handle this issue

Annie, did you watch the show? What did you think?
The cats (or the ones they showed, anyway) looked healthy and the woman
seemed to somehow have the financial means to care for them, or at
least feed them, and they allegedly were all vaccinated and neutered.
But, realistically, I don't think *anyone* can take proper care of 200
cats. No way, not without help. I just don't see how.

Sherry
Annie Wxill - 17 Nov 2006 06:35 GMT
> Annie, did you watch the show? What did you think?
> The cats (or the ones they showed, anyway) looked healthy and the woman
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> cats. No way, not without help. I just don't see how.
> Sherry

Yes, I watched the show.  The woman has 10 acres and the cats looked
beautiful and healthy running around in what appeared to be a meadow.  They
appeared to be tame and she said she has a name for each of the
approximately 250 cats.
What concerned me was that she may not be able to keep all the cats on her
property.  I say this because she accused the neighbor of killing some of
her cats with antifreeze and he admitted on the show that he had left some
antifreeze out, but denied killing the cats.
The neighbor also had some tapes of phone calls the cat woman had made that
could be construed as harassment or could be simply venting her anger and
frustration at the loss of the cats. This neighbor and another said they are
upset about the smell of all those cats.
Dr. Phil told her she was doing a great thing to rescue and care for the
cats, but she is in violation of the law for keeping more than allowed
without a license.  He also said her life was out of balance because she was
consumed with caring for her cats at the expense of her relations with her
family.  He offered her the help of an animal rights attorney to advise her
on how to handle the red tape to be a sanctuary.
I agree with you that I seriously doubt that one person can care for that
many cats.  But, I haven't seen the place in person.  What I saw on
television was pretty impressive.  Maybe she can do it.

Annie
sriddles@aol.com - 17 Nov 2006 15:11 GMT
> > Annie, did you watch the show? What did you think?
> > The cats (or the ones they showed, anyway) looked healthy and the woman
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>
> Annie

I thought it was pretty impressive too, considering the sheer number of
cats. I also wondered if they only showed the better part of the
situation.
I got to thinking though. That's about one cat per 2,000 square feet or
so on 10 acres. That's a lot of poop and pee over the years. I wonder
if she had litterboxes. My flowerbed smelled like a port-a-potty in
August once when just one cat was going there.

Sherry <--- only a cat person would probably wonder about that.
Jo Firey - 18 Nov 2006 04:45 GMT
>> > Annie, did you watch the show? What did you think?
>> > The cats (or the ones they showed, anyway) looked healthy and the woman
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>
> Sherry <--- only a cat person would probably wonder about that.

I didn't see the show.   So I don't know if she had some means of confining
the cats to her ten acres.  As much as I like cats, I don't think I'd want
to live next door to that.  Even if I had ten acres myself.

Jo
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Nov 2006 17:29 GMT
> Dr. Phil told her she was doing a great thing to rescue and care for the
> cats, but she is in violation of the law for keeping more than allowed
> without a license.  He also said her life was out of balance because she was
> consumed with caring for her cats at the expense of her relations with her
> family.  

Considering some families, maybe she's right to prefer cats? ;-)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Nov 2006 19:12 GMT
>> Dr. Phil told her she was doing a great thing to rescue and care for the
>> cats, but she is in violation of the law for keeping more than allowed
>> without a license.  He also said her life was out of balance because she was
>> consumed with caring for her cats at the expense of her relations with her
>> family.  

> Considering some families, maybe she's right to prefer cats? ;-)

Good point. And anyway, who is he to tell her what kind of balance her
life needs??

Joyce
sriddles@aol.com - 17 Nov 2006 19:57 GMT
>  > Annie Wxill wrote:
>
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>
> Joyce

Another good point :-)
I didn't like the woman, on the basis of what part of her personality I
saw on the show. Although it's really commendable that she rescues,
spays/neuters and all that, she was argumentive and had a smart mouth,
and a total disregard for city ordinance. She seemed like one of those
people that the "rules apply to everyone else, but not me."
I love cats, ya'll know that, but I would NOT want her for a neighbor
either.

Sherry
Annie Wxill - 18 Nov 2006 16:16 GMT
> Considering some families, maybe she's right to prefer cats? ;-)

Her sister appeared on the show and they did not seem to have any underlying
problems.  The sister appeared to be sincere in wanting the woman to be a
bigger part of the (human) family.  I don't recall if there was some reason
the sister couldn't visit the woman at her house if she wanted to see more
of her.  And there is the Internet and the phone. Or, (a novel idea) cards
and letters.
Some people just aren't people  people, if you know what I mean.

Annie
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Nov 2006 18:55 GMT
>> Considering some families, maybe she's right to prefer cats? ;-)

> Her sister appeared on the show and they did not seem to have any underlying
> problems.  The sister appeared to be sincere in wanting the woman to be a
> bigger part of the (human) family.  I don't recall if there was some reason
> the sister couldn't visit the woman at her house if she wanted to see more
> of her.

Allergic to cats? :)

Joyce
 
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