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Marina - 13 Nov 2006 17:42 GMT
Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban
got some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the
smell was driving Caliban mad, and I thought it was unfair not to get
him some, too.

As it turned out, he didn't deserve such a treat. Half an hour before it
was time to feed the cats, Caliban jumped up on an old ornamental
cabinet (inherited from my granddad) and knocked down an old ornamental
clock (inherited from my great-aunt). The clock didn't work before, and
it didn't break (at least no pieces broke off), but it had this golden
spike with golden ornaments on top, and that was bent in the fall. So
Caliban really didn't deserve a treat. But he got it anyway, when enough
time had elapsed between the accident and supper time that I hope he
didn't connect the two. He did know that he had done something bad,
because he went and hid after the clock had fallen.

Here's a picture of Miranda as a kitten beside the clock, on the cabinet:

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1318588340058511339rheoLu

You can see that it's not a small or light-weight clock. Caliban has
been jumping on top of that cabinet lately to get my attention when he
is begging for food. Oh, well. It's just a thing. I had been planning to
take it to a clockmaker to have it fixed. Maybe I'll finally get that
done. And maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just
have to hide it away, like all my other ornaments.

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

Karen - 13 Nov 2006 17:51 GMT
I was going to say that is no small thing to knock over!! YOu could tape it
down :D

> Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban
> got some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the
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> done. And maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just
> have to hide it away, like all my other ornaments.
Marina - 13 Nov 2006 20:16 GMT
> I was going to say that is no small thing to knock over!! YOu could tape it
> down :D

I never thought he'd be able to knock it down. It's *inside* the cabinet
now.

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
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Lisa Katt - 13 Nov 2006 17:55 GMT
>Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban
>got some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the
>smell was driving Caliban mad, and I thought it was unfair not to get
>him some, too.

<snip>

Wouldn't it be easier in the long run to feed Caliban the same food as
Miranda?
Or is her fresh meat diet too expensive?
Elisabet
Marina - 13 Nov 2006 18:01 GMT
> Wouldn't it be easier in the long run to feed Caliban the same food as
> Miranda?
> Or is her fresh meat diet too expensive?

Actually, I've mostly fed him the same as Miranda ever since we came
back from the island, but sometimes I still give him some tinned food,
just for variation, and I didn't have enough turkey for two meals for
both of them. It's not really more expensive to feed them fresh meat
than high-end cat food.

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

Matthew - 13 Nov 2006 18:01 GMT
What a picture
Marina   take a stick pad and put it down or I would take and install a hook
and line behind it so it take a fall again.  Plus an good clock place should
be able to repair that gorgeous clock  looks like an antique roadshow show
piece waiting to happen

> Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban got
> some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the smell
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> maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just have to
> hide it away, like all my other ornaments.
Matthew - 13 Nov 2006 18:02 GMT
So it won't take a fall  dang spell checker

Sorry

> What a picture
> Marina   take a stick pad and put it down or I would take and install a
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>> done. And maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just
>> have to hide it away, like all my other ornaments.
Matthew - 13 Nov 2006 18:02 GMT
So it won't take a fall  dang spell checker

Sorry

> What a picture
> Marina   take a stick pad and put it down or I would take and install a
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>> done. And maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just
>> have to hide it away, like all my other ornaments.
Kreisleriana - 13 Nov 2006 18:36 GMT
>Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban
>got some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the
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>
>http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1318588340058511339rheoLu

I remember that picture!  She made such a cool little shelf onament
(as if she would stay still ;))
A shame about your heirloom clock.  Can the spikey thing be repaired?

>You can see that it's not a small or light-weight clock. Caliban has
>been jumping on top of that cabinet lately to get my attention when he
>is begging for food. Oh, well. It's just a thing. I had been planning to
>take it to a clockmaker to have it fixed. Maybe I'll finally get that
>done. And maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just
>have to hide it away, like all my other ornaments.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

Make Levees, Not War
Christina Websell - 13 Nov 2006 18:39 GMT
> Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban got
> some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the smell
> was driving Caliban mad, and I thought it was unfair not to get him some,
> too.

It's such a pity that Miranda won't eat cat food, it must drive poor Caliban
crazy to smell her lovely freshly cooked stuff - especially as he is so fond
of his food ;-)

> As it turned out, he didn't deserve such a treat. Half an hour before it
> was time to feed the cats, Caliban jumped up on an old ornamental cabinet
> (inherited from my granddad) and knocked down an old ornamental clock
> (inherited from my great-aunt). The clock didn't work before, and it
> didn't break (at least no pieces broke off), but it had this golden spike
> with golden ornaments on top, and that was bent in the fall.

I'm sorry to hear that the clock was damaged.  Heirlooms that have passed
down through the family in remembrance of someone who is now gone are very
precious.

> So Caliban really didn't deserve a treat. But he got it anyway, when
> enough time had elapsed between the accident and supper time that I hope
> he didn't connect the two.

He *did* deserve some turkey because he could smell Miranda's and wanted it
so much.  He knocked over and damaged your clock - but he has no idea that
that's a bad thing, how could his cat mind understand that?

> He did know that he had done something bad, because he went and hid after
> the clock had fallen.

I would suggest that he hid because it fell and shocked him maybe with the
noise it made - it's a large clock.
Animals have no concept of what is precious to us as humans.
Dogs will act in a way that is perceived as "guilty" for example when they
have raided the bin and strewed the contents all over the kitchen the
second/third time.  When the owner arrives home and discovers it, their body
language says it all.  The dog remembers being told off or punished then for
that first time and will probably creep away, showing submissive gestures.
This does not mean that they feel "guilty" - merely that they realise they
might be spoken to severely or punished again and become afraid.

Maybe put some metal foil on the top of the cabinet, I am told that cats
don't like to put their feet on it?

Tweed
Marina - 13 Nov 2006 20:20 GMT
> I would suggest that he hid because it fell and shocked him maybe
> with the noise it made - it's a large clock.

I think he hid because I sort of wailed when I saw the clock fall - he
knows he hurt Meowmie somehow, but of course he doesn't understand what
the clock means to me. He probably thought he hurt me physically when he
jumped down. And he does mostly get the same food as Miranda. I'm hoping
he will lose some weight being on the same diet as Mir. ;o)

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

mlbriggs - 13 Nov 2006 19:01 GMT
> Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban
> got some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the
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> done. And maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just
> have to hide it away, like all my other ornaments.

IMHO Caliban had no thought of the clock at all -- he just wanted to jump
up high.  It is a very pretty clock and should be in a safer place.  What
if it had fallen on the cat?
sriddles@aol.com - 13 Nov 2006 19:34 GMT
> Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban
> got some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the
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> --
> Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

What beauties, BOTH of them. Miranda and the clock. She is really a
stunning cat. It is so cute the way she cocks her head over, like she's
posing!
I keep saying I'm going to get some that museum tape stuff, after the
cats knocked off a Dresden doll once. It only broke the back of her
skirt though. Then there was the Glinda the Good witch music box, she
broke off at the torso. Sigh.

Sherry
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 13 Nov 2006 20:00 GMT
> Then there was the Glinda the Good witch music box, she
> broke off at the torso. Sigh.

Wizard of Oz was on cable TV last night, did anyone watch it? I missed
most of it, but saw maybe the last 20 minutes. I haven't seen it in
about 10 years. But I was just thinking about that movie on Saturday,
and thinking it was about time to see it again, and there it was!

Joyce
Kreisleriana - 13 Nov 2006 20:28 GMT
> > Then there was the Glinda the Good witch music box, she
> > broke off at the torso. Sigh.
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>
>Joyce

I think I have every line in this movie memorized.  It's my dad's
all-time favorite movie.  He was born in 1936 and saw it first at age
4, and it was an overwhelming experience for him.  He was terrified by
the witch, and overwhelmed by the scene where things go from B&W to
color.  I love to see the movie through his eyes, so to speak.
Today's kids are so visually flooded from so very early on, and I
wonder if they can ever feel the wonder that my dad felt watching OZ
as a child.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

Make Levees, Not War
jmcquown - 13 Nov 2006 21:01 GMT
>>> Then there was the Glinda the Good witch music box, she
>>> broke off at the torso. Sigh.
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>
> Make Levees, Not War

I have the wicked witches' cackle down pat!  Cracks John up when I do it
(and I think it scares him a little, too!).  Margaret Hamilton was later
Cora the Coffee Lady (Maxwell House).  What a wonderful film!

Trivia Question:  Who was supposed to play the Tin Woodsman but didn't?  And
why didn't he?

Glinda, the Good Witch of the North (Billie Burke) was also in the Topper
films starring Cary Grant (dreamy!) and Constance Bennett.  I love old
movies!  I tend to look at them through eyes much as you imagine your father
does... with wonder :)

Jill
Joy - 13 Nov 2006 21:17 GMT
>>>> Then there was the Glinda the Good witch music box, she
>>>> broke off at the torso. Sigh.
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> And
> why didn't he?

I know!  I know!  It was Buddy Ebsen, and he had an allergic reaction to the
silver paint/makeup they used for the part.

Joy

> Glinda, the Good Witch of the North (Billie Burke) was also in the Topper
> films starring Cary Grant (dreamy!) and Constance Bennett.  I love old
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>
> Jill
jmcquown - 13 Nov 2006 21:30 GMT
>>>>> Then there was the Glinda the Good witch music box, she
>>>>> broke off at the torso. Sigh.
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>
> Joy

Yep!  The aluminium powder makeup caused his lungs to fail and he wound up
in the hospital.  Another bit of trivia: Ebsen was originally slated to play
the role of the Scarecrow and his voice is what you hear on the soundtrack
when they all sing "We're Off to See the Wizard" even though he was never in
the movie :)

Oddly, this film is usually shown (on regular television) around when
tornado season starts.  Ironic ;)

Jill
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 13 Nov 2006 23:42 GMT
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I have the wicked witches' cackle down pat!  Cracks John up when I do it
> (and I think it scares him a little, too!).  Margaret Hamilton was later
> Cora the Coffee Lady (Maxwell House).  What a wonderful film!

This reminds me of a funny story. Back in the late 1970s, a friend of mine
was graduating college (Wheelock College in Boston), and my roommate and I
went to the ceremony.

It was a small group of people, and they had a procession in the beginning
that involved everyone, including the graduates, faculty, guests of honor,
and audience members. As we were walking along, my roommate pointed to a
woman standing only a few feet away and said, in a rather loud voice, "Wow,
look at her! She looks like the Wicked Witch of the West!" I was horrified
that the woman might hear her, and shushed my roommate up.

And the woman turned out to be Margaret Hamilton, receiving an honorary
degree!!

Joyce
Kreisleriana - 14 Nov 2006 00:16 GMT
>"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
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>
>Joyce

Honorary degrees!  When I attended my brother's college graduation,
Harry Belafonte received an honorary degree.  I whispered to my
father, "I wonder if any of these kids even remember Harry Belafonte."
To my surprise, when he stepped up to the lectern, all the kids
chorused "DAAAAYYYYYYY-O!"  ;)

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

Make Levees, Not War
sriddles@aol.com - 14 Nov 2006 03:12 GMT
> >"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
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>
> Theresa

LOL! If they had not heard it before, they surely remembered it from
Beetlejuise!

Sherry
jmcquown - 14 Nov 2006 03:14 GMT
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
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>
> Joyce

That's hiliarious!  What are the odds?

Jill
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 13 Nov 2006 23:37 GMT
> I think I have every line in this movie memorized.  It's my dad's
> all-time favorite movie.  He was born in 1936 and saw it first at age
> 4, and it was an overwhelming experience for him.  He was terrified by
> the witch, and overwhelmed by the scene where things go from B&W to
> color.

There were so many things about that movie that terrified me when I was
a kid: the witch, of course, but also the MONKEYS. And the first witch,
who got crushed under the house, when her feet curled up after Glinda
took the slippers - EWWWW! The nasty trees that threw apples - such ugly
faces. The Wizard himself was pretty scary to me, too. And the field of
poppies creeped me out.

Still I could never stop watching it - there was so much beauty (we were
lucky enough to have a color TV), and so much compelling drama for a kid.
It was big excitement in our house when they showed it on TV. I don't
think I saw it in a theater until I was an adult.

> I love to see the movie through his eyes, so to speak.
> Today's kids are so visually flooded from so very early on, and I
> wonder if they can ever feel the wonder that my dad felt watching OZ
> as a child.

I felt it when watching it last night, although I'm sure I would've felt
more if I'd seen it from the beginning.

One movie that didn't age well for me was Peter Pan. That was such a
poignant, magical movie to me as a kid. Even at that age, I used to
worry about getting old, knowing that it was inevitable and only a matter
of time. So the movie's theme of time passing and people growing up and
losing their childhood didn't escape me at all.

But when I saw it again at about age 18, I couldn't help but notice how
fake everything looked. I realized it was essentially a filmed stage
play, with just a few cinematic touches. The magic had totally gone out
of it for me. And then I realized with horror that the very thing the
movie is about, the very thing that had happened to Wendy, had happened
to me: I'd grown up! NOOOOOOO!!!

Joyce
sriddles@aol.com - 13 Nov 2006 22:04 GMT
>  > Then there was the Glinda the Good witch music box, she
>  > broke off at the torso. Sigh.
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>
> Joyce

Yes, I never miss it. Even though I could buy the DVD, there's just
something more special about catching it on TV, usually near the
holidays. It is my alltime favorite movie, and the magic just never
goes away. Another holiday tradition is that someone in the family
always buys me a new WOZ calendar each year.

Sherry
Sam - 14 Nov 2006 04:33 GMT
> Here's a picture of Miranda as a kitten beside the clock, on the cabinet:
>
> http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1318588340058511339rheoLu

A beautiful kitty and a gorgeous clock.  So glad it didn't break.

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Susan M - 14 Nov 2006 05:32 GMT
Yikes.  What a beautiful clock (and cat) for Caliban to knock down.  I hope
that you can get it fixed ....  but I know all about property damage and
cats.  Our leather sofas and new mattress are trashed.  And you still have
to love the furry brats :-)

Susan M
Otis and Chester

> Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban got
> some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the smell
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just have to
> hide it away, like all my other ornaments.
Christina Websell - 14 Nov 2006 20:40 GMT
> Yikes.  What a beautiful clock (and cat) for Caliban to knock down.  I
> hope that you can get it fixed ....  but I know all about property damage
> and cats.  Our leather sofas and new mattress are trashed.  And you still
> have to love the furry brats :-)

Blimey.  How lucky I am.  My two have done no damage apart from KFC's
inappropriate peeing on the carpets - despite her 2 litter boxes it still
happens. I don't blame her for it, she has renal failure and can't help it.
I will get new carpets afterwards.. :-(
I had a dog that suffered from separation anxiety, Daisy whippet, she ripped
up my furniture big time when I went to work and left her despite she had
her mum, sister and brother there with her.
I have only just been able to replace the furniture recently.  It looks posh
in here now!  Sorta, anyway..

Tweed
Marina - 15 Nov 2006 04:06 GMT
> Yikes.  What a beautiful clock (and cat) for Caliban to knock down.  I hope
> that you can get it fixed ....  but I know all about property damage and
> cats.  Our leather sofas and new mattress are trashed.  And you still have
> to love the furry brats :-)

Oh, yes, of course I love him. The clock is hidden away in the cabinet
and I don't even think about it any more - it's just a thing after all.
Caliban was especially cuddly and sweet yesterday. He got on my lap as
usual - or rather, on my chest with my arms propping him up, as usual.
Then he got so into the scritching, he did upside-downy head that turned
into upside-downy body, and then he gradually turned a somersault there,
on my chest, so that he ended up head down, bum in my face, sprawled all
over me, tummy in the air, enjoying full tummy rubs, and purring his
little fuzzy head off. I wish there'd been someone with a camera to
capture it.

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/
Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

polonca12000 - 19 Nov 2006 12:05 GMT
> Yesterday, I gave Miranda poached turkey for her dinner, while Caliban
> got some tinned gooshy food. I had to buy some more today, because the
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> done. And maybe Caliban won't drop it another time... Or maybe i'll just
> have to hide it away, like all my other ornaments.

That would have been irresistible to Soncek also. I keep some boxes on
top of a cupboard and when he is being a bad boy (usually at 3am), he
throws them to the floor and since I am sleeping at the time, it makes
me jump.
Purrs and best wishes for the clock to be repaired,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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