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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / November 2006Purrs for Natasha
Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her recent surgery (she's doing great!) Now I ask purrs for my furry mistress, Natasha. I was away overnight, and when I returned home this afternoon she had been sick, was lethargic, appeared to be straining to have a BM, and had wet hindquarters smelling faintly of urine. (quite a sad sight) She would get up and wander over to her water, but after a lick or two just lie back down. Since it's Sunday, the only place I could take her was an area emergency clinic. Quite expensive, but you do tend to get a few answers quickly. The vet on duty was afraid she was in acute kidney failure, but the bloodwork said no (the bloodwork was amazingly within spec - the only item out of spec, I was told, is one of the ones that does that when there's dehydration. She couldn't get urine because Tasha's bladder was empty, and thinks that she's been emptying it slowly while straining to have that BM (and that's why she was wet too). Her temperature was about 3 degrees F low, and she was dehydrated. I was told that a symptom of dehydration is lowered temperature. (this next bit is a bit graphic) The vet wanted to do all sorts of x-rays (driving an already outrageous monetary estimate even higher), but when I found out that she'd not done any kind of rectal exam to see if she was blocked I put my foot down. Natasha was "plugged up" about a year ago, and was set to rights with application of a well greased finger, an enema and some fluids. I went back to see her, because they were also concerned that she seemed lethargic, but she was actually a bit more herself (she's one of those kitties that goes limp at TEDs). She just seemed pretty uncomfortable. While I was skritching her in the incubator (they put her in an incubator to raise her body temp), the doctor decided to put the glove on and "take the plunge". Nothing there in the pelvic region, but apparently there was stuff when she poked around lower. Said she "this is so soft - I guess maybe that's why I couldn't fee anything when I examined her" (duh?) Said I "no x-rays until she's been cleaned out, and then we'll see how she's doing in the morning". So Natasha is spending the night at TEDs, and I ask purrs for her to get feeling better soon so she can come home tomorrow! Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha ============ http://www.jhedge.com Aww, the poor baby. I'm so sorry. Everyone here will be purring for her to be feeling better ASAP. >Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her >recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >So Natasha is spending the night at TEDs, and I ask purrs for her to >get feeling better soon so she can come home tomorrow! Awww, purrs for poor Natasha. > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Big purrs for Natasha. Sometimes, when we are gone it just upset their whole routine and they can become ill. Dehydration alone can cause a lot of feeling icky. Please keep us posted. > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Purrs that it will all work out soon. MLB > So Natasha is spending the night at TEDs, and I ask purrs for her to > get feeling better soon so she can come home tomorrow! Many purrs on the way for Tasha.  SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki Purrs are on the way. Joy > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Poor girl! Purrs for her to get better quickly! Joyce > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) > Now I ask purrs for my furry mistress, Natasha. I was away overnight, > and when I returned home this afternoon she had been sick, was > lethargic, appeared to be straining to have a BM, and had wet > hindquarters smelling faintly of urine. (quite a sad sight) She would > get up and wander over to her water, but after a lick or two just lie > back down. > Since it's Sunday, the only place I could take her was an area > emergency clinic. Quite expensive, but you do tend to get a few [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > dehydrated. I was told that a symptom of dehydration is lowered > temperature. > (this next bit is a bit graphic) > The vet wanted to do all sorts of x-rays (driving an already > outrageous monetary estimate even higher), but when I found out that > she'd not done any kind of rectal exam to see if she was blocked I put > my foot down. Natasha was "plugged up" about a year ago, and was set > to rights with application of a well greased finger, an enema and some > fluids. > I went back to see her, because they were also concerned that she > seemed lethargic, but she was actually a bit more herself (she's one [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > anything when I examined her" (duh?) Said I "no x-rays until she's > been cleaned out, and then we'll see how she's doing in the morning". > So Natasha is spending the night at TEDs, and I ask purrs for her to > get feeling better soon so she can come home tomorrow! > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com SignatureTo reply privately, take the X's out of my user ID. Purrs for Natasha and for you. Dewi. > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Poor Natasha, lots of purrs on the way. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > So Natasha is spending the night at TEDs, and I ask purrs for her to > get feeling better soon so she can come home tomorrow! Lots and lots of purrs on the way, let us know how she does. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Purrs on their way for Natasha. Suz&Spicey >So Natasha is spending the night at TEDs, and I ask purrs for her to >get feeling better soon so she can come home tomorrow! Many purrs for both of you, that Natasha will be well soonest and on her way home. Jeanne Jeanne Hajos spamguard:( u is i, and not is net) === "Anger improves nothing except the arch of a cat's back." --- Coleman Cox My SETI team: >Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her >recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >============ >http://www.jhedge.com Lots of purrs on the way for Natasha. Randy http://picasaweb.google.com/crmartin1 http://kittenwar.com/kittens/74045/ Just a quick update, as I've gotten off the phone with TED's office. Natasha is still dehydrated (they're going to increase the fluid rate - but how long have I been blind to her being in that state???), but her temperature is back to normal. I gave them permission to do the x-rays, as they're trying to rule in/out something called feline megacolon. Does anyone know about this problem? I guess it has something to do with the colon not being able to pass material very well, leading to gigantic colons that stop up small rectums. In most cases they don't know what causes it, and treatment can range from diet changes to major surgery. I should know more later, after TED gets out of morning surgery. Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha > Just a quick update, as I've gotten off the phone with TED's office. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha Continuing purrs for Natasha. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk Yep, Sweeter had that this summer. They cats throw up because the backed up feces poisons their systems. The vet could not get the colon to work again (it can be stretched enough that it no longer pushed) so we had to have her colon removed. You might google megacolon and read up about it. Hope your cat's system starts moving again. Rhonda > Just a quick update, as I've gotten off the phone with TED's office. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha > Yep, Sweeter had that this summer. They cats throw up because the backed > up feces poisons their systems. > The vet could not get the colon to work again (it can be stretched > enough that it no longer pushed) so we had to have her colon removed. Wow, what happens after that? A human needs to wear a colostomy bag after that surgery. How would that work with a cat? Joyce > > Yep, Sweeter had that this summer. They cats throw up because the backed > > up feces poisons their systems. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Wow, what happens after that? A human needs to wear a colostomy bag > after that surgery. How would that work with a cat? I know, I asked about the little bag too! They actually try to leave a little flap of the large intestine by the anus, then sew the small intestine onto it. I couldn't believe it. The vet said most cats do great with this surgery. Unfortunately for Sweeter, she was his first cat to have a problem. Some of her internal stitches came loose and she was leaking into her abdomen. She had a scary septic infection. They operated again, cleaned her out and resewed, and now she is begging to play all of the time! She is a new kitty. Rhonda > They actually try to leave a little flap of the large intestine by the > anus, then sew the small intestine onto it. I couldn't believe it. The > vet said most cats do great with this surgery. Cats don't need a lot of intestine anyway - they eat mostly meat. As it is, their intestinal tract is short and they often poop out undigested food (which is why dogs like to eat it, gross as that is to us). > Unfortunately for Sweeter, she was his first cat to have a problem. Some > of her internal stitches came loose and she was leaking into her > abdomen. She had a scary septic infection. > They operated again, cleaned her out and resewed, and now she is begging > to play all of the time! She is a new kitty. That's wonderful! Especially after it almost went so badly. She must have used up a few of her 9 lives on that! Joyce > > They actually try to leave a little flap of the large intestine by the > > anus, then sew the small intestine onto it. I couldn't believe it. The [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it is, their intestinal tract is short and they often poop out undigested > food (which is why dogs like to eat it, gross as that is to us). The colon is where the water is taken out and feces are formed -- so her only side effect is that she will probably have diarrhea the rest of her life. The vet said some cats start making partially formed feces again. The small intestine starts taking over some of the large intestine's duties. He just shook his head when he told me about that and said that cats are amazing creatures. Sweeter is on a potassium supplement, her only long-term medication from all of this. They did tell me she will drink more water on her own, since her system is not getting the extra water from the colon's process. > > Unfortunately for Sweeter, she was his first cat to have a problem. Some > > of her internal stitches came loose and she was leaking into her [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That's wonderful! Especially after it almost went so badly. She must have > used up a few of her 9 lives on that! Lol! She did use a few. She used a couple of mine, too. Rhonda > Just a quick update, as I've gotten off the phone with TED's office. > > Natasha is still dehydrated (they're going to increase the fluid rate - > but how long have I been blind to her being in that state???), but her > temperature is back to normal. > I should know more later, after TED gets out of morning surgery. > > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha Many purrs and prayers for your baby girl. Please keep us updates Helen M >Just a quick update, as I've gotten off the phone with TED's office. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha Purrs that Natasha will be well and healthy (and easily!) soon. Ginger-lyn Home Pages: http://www.moonsummer.com http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website) > Just a quick update, as I've gotten off the phone with TED's office. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha We are purring and sending best wishes that Natasha's problem is not serious, Polonca and Soncek > Natasha is still dehydrated (they're going to increase the fluid rate - > but how long have I been blind to her being in that state???), but her > temperature is back to normal. Purrs still on the way. How does one tell if a cat is dehydrated? The old "pull the skin" trick? SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > > Natasha is still dehydrated (they're going to increase the fluid rate - > > but how long have I been blind to her being in that state???), but her > > temperature is back to normal. > > Purrs still on the way. How does one tell if a cat is dehydrated? The > old "pull the skin" trick? I guess. To be honest, I hadn't noticed her as being dehydrated but the emergency staff was flipping out about it. They said that her temp was three degrees low (97F-ish instead of 100F-ish), and that was caused by dehydration. They put the fluids back in her, her temp went back to normal. I've made an appointment to see her regular vet soon. Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha poor Natasha, how uncomfortable she must be feeling. We are urgently sending purrs and prayers that she gets better real soon and that it's only a matter of being plugged up again. Oh dear. Lily & her mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Purrs going at full throttle for Natasha's full and speedy recovery, Jeanne. I'm sorry she's feeling so poorly! But you got her prompt attention, thank goodness. Melissa Purrs on the way. Ann Signatureread Sam's blog at http://kittens-3.blogspot.com/ see pictures of Sam at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ann791/my_photos > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Here's hoping all is okay > Thanks to all who offered purrs and good thoughts to my mom for her > recent surgery (she's doing great!) [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Purrs that the trouble is minor, Jeanne. SignatureSam, closely supervised by Mistletoe >Now I ask purrs for my furry mistress, Natasha. And you shall recieve them from the Fabulous Furballs hope your owner is better soon! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Thanks to all who have been purring! Here's the latest: I brought Natasha home last night (Monday). When they brought her into the exam room, and I started skritching her, she started purring and head butting. Loudly. The vet tech said that that was the most animation she'd shown since she'd been there. Although they do not know what caused her trouble (could just be simple old age), she does NOT have megacolon. For which I am greatful, as after reading up on it it sounds problematic to deal with and I was not going to do the surgical option (the twin reasons being expense and Natasha's age (when's enough enough?)). My highest regards go to people (furred and not) who have and do deal with this type of problem! Anyway, while she was there they could not get her to eat. The tech said she was being presented with a veritable buffet, but wasn't touching any of it. She also said that by this point they'd all pretty much decided this was probably a combination of not feeling well and cat stubborness. They did get her rehydrated and her temperature back to normal. If I understood correctly, constipation -> dehydration -> drop in body temperature. I've been trying to tempt her with various foods, but the only thing I definitely know she's eaten is a small bit of liverwurst (braunschweiger (sp?)), which she turned her nose up on after the first bite, and a couple of those "greenie" cat treats/dental snacks (which she does like). I even put some canned food down, but I'm not hopeful about that as she's rarely had it and probably doesn't even know what it is. Oh well, at least she *is* drinking and wandering around a bit. And spilling water over the side of her bowl as she shoves it around, then sitting in the water. (sigh... but at least this too is normal behavior) I've also been given some medicine, something called Cisapride. I guess it's one of those catch-all medicines that's for gastrointestinal problems related to things not moving along as they should. In this case, while it's not a laxative, it apparently leads to a similar result. http://www.wedgewoodpharmacy.com/cisapride.asp OTOH, another result of all this was that she got a *very* thorough check-up. Blood, urine, x-rays, blood pressure(!)... the tech also told me that she was in amazing condition for her age, and they were having trouble believing she was as old as I claimed. I even had to explain that I'd first met her when she was less than a week old, so I definitely knew when she was born. So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox! Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha ============ http://www.jhedge.com > So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not > nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox! Excellent news! Perhaps some baby food? That's usually worked for me. >> So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not >> nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox! > >Excellent news! > >Perhaps some baby food? That's usually worked for me. I have heard that cats love Kentucky Fried Chicken, and a lot of rescuers use it as bait in the live traps they use. >>> So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not >>> nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I have heard that cats love Kentucky Fried Chicken, and a lot of > rescuers use it as bait in the live traps they use. Don't know if you have one where you are, but I brought home some spicy fried chicken from Popeye's one night and Smokey climbed up my side and onto the table to get some. I put him on the floor and he started up again. Finally had to shut him in the bathroom just to finish dinner. Of course he had some bits of chicken meat left from our dinner. We put that down for him and he attacked it. Mistletoe came wandering by on the way to her food bowl and he growled at her even though she hadn't put a move on his chicken that we could see. DW was having the non-spicy chicken that night. Offered some bits to Smokey and he turned his nose up at it, but Missy thought it was just fine. SignatureSam, closely supervised by Mistletoe >> So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not >> nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox! > > Excellent news! > > Perhaps some baby food? That's usually worked for me. I missed this whole thread, sorry. Many purrs for Natasha's swift recovery. Tiny pieces of roast chicken breast always got a poorly animal's appetite going for me. Sometimes raw beef mince would tempt them, too. If all else fails, fried liver chopped into very small pieces often works. Tinned sardines, tuna, scrambled egg, brussels pate? Tweed <--experienced at feeding old CRF dogs with little appetite > Thanks to all who have been purring! > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha I'm glad she's on the road to recovery. I suspect that one of these days she'll suddenly start eating voraciously. At least that has been my experience with cats that wouldn't eat. Have you tried baby food? Sometimes a very small amount (maybe half a teaspoon) of strained meat, thinned with a little water, will be tempting. I've found that smaller servings are more likely to be eaten than larger ones. Good luck! Purrs for both of you. Joy >> So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not >> nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox! >I'm glad she's on the road to recovery. I suspect that one of these days >she'll suddenly start eating voraciously. At least that has been my Yes, that's been my experience with angry kitty too. And she does seem to be nibbling a bit, so I'm not completely worried about it - yet. >experience with cats that wouldn't eat. Have you tried baby food? >Sometimes a very small amount (maybe half a teaspoon) of strained meat, >thinned with a little water, will be tempting. I've found that smaller >servings are more likely to be eaten than larger ones. Good luck! Thanks for the suggestion, Joy. I'll keep it in mind. Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha ============ http://www.jhedge.com >>> So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not >>> nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox! [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Will she respond to "people tuna"?(Anything to get her to eat). Hi Jeanne, I haven't heard of constipation causing dehydration, but I know dehydration can cause constipation. The body draws too much moisture out of the intestines when dehydrated. Has she gone yet at all? What have they tried? With Sweeter, she had a few enemas every day, plus was on lactulose (which is supposed to help hydrate the feces,) and was getting lots of sub-cu fluids (we even did that at home.) They talked about trying to get the stuff out manually, but then it was too late to have it make a difference long-term. Cats who are backed up usually aren't hungry. They feel full inside. If they can get things moving again, she should start eating. Our vet didn't want Sweeter to eat too much while she was not going because that made more of an impaction. Good luck, I hope the vet stays on top of this to get her moving again and hope it's not a problem very soon! Rhonda > Thanks to all who have been purring! > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com >Hi Jeanne, > >I haven't heard of constipation causing dehydration, but I know >dehydration can cause constipation. The body draws too much moisture out >of the intestines when dehydrated. Well, that's what they explained to me, anyway - that with trying to have that BM she lost fluids. I don't know... >Has she gone yet at all? What have they tried? With Sweeter, she had a >few enemas every day, plus was on lactulose (which is supposed to help >hydrate the feces,) and was getting lots of sub-cu fluids (we even did >that at home.) They talked about trying to get the stuff out manually, >but then it was too late to have it make a difference long-term. Tasha had both manual removal and a couple of enemas, so she's fairly cleaned out at the moment. They said there wasn't a whole lot there (and she *had* used the litterbox prior to me leaving town Saturday afternoon, because I cleaned it out before I left), but there was some stuff fairly "upstream". It was described as still being a bit on the soft side. >Cats who are backed up usually aren't hungry. They feel full inside. If >they can get things moving again, she should start eating. Our vet >didn't want Sweeter to eat too much while she was not going because that >made more of an impaction. Yeah, the thinking is that she wasn't eating at TEDs because she wasn't feeling well, the alien environment, and being totally po'd at the indignity of being there in the first place (let alone what they were doing to her). She *has* nibbled some since she got home, though, and I know she's not going to starve herself because of being in a snit. I'm not going to hit the panic button yet, as long as she's still nibbling (and she sure scarfs down the "greenies" I gave her earlier, so I know she can't be feeling *that* bad!) >Good luck, I hope the vet stays on top of this to get her moving again >and hope it's not a problem very soon! I'm going to call my regular vet tomorrow (for some odd reason they were closed today because of election day) and see if they want to see her or have anything else they want to do. The Cisapride is supposed to help get things moving - now it's a matter of getting enough in her so there's something to move! Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha ============ http://www.jhedge.com >>I haven't heard of constipation causing dehydration, but I know >>dehydration can cause constipation. The body draws too much moisture out >>of the intestines when dehydrated. > > Well, that's what they explained to me, anyway - that with trying to > have that BM she lost fluids. I don't know... Hmm, I wonder how she lost fluids, maybe throwing up? Maybe it's one of those cat mysteries -- it always seems to be something new with them. >>Has she gone yet at all? What have they tried? With Sweeter, she had a >>few enemas every day, plus was on lactulose (which is supposed to help [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > stuff fairly "upstream". It was described as still being a bit on the > soft side. Good, I'm glad they got it out. Sweeter's would just not budge. >>Cats who are backed up usually aren't hungry. They feel full inside. If >>they can get things moving again, she should start eating. Our vet [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > still nibbling (and she sure scarfs down the "greenies" I gave her > earlier, so I know she can't be feeling *that* bad!) That's great that she's starting to eat! Sweeter did the same thing after surgery -- would not eat a thing for them. They force fed her the whole time she was there. She is a former feral and was scared out of her skin. She started nibbling when she got home and I was happy about that! I also blended wet food and warm water and syringed in a little until she got more in on her own. >>Good luck, I hope the vet stays on top of this to get her moving again >>and hope it's not a problem very soon! > I'm going to call my regular vet tomorrow (for some odd reason they > were closed today because of election day) and see if they want to see > her or have anything else they want to do. The Cisapride is supposed > to help get things moving - now it's a matter of getting enough in her > so there's something to move! If she still tends to be dehydrated, it might help to get her fluids every day or so. We did that here at home, but if the vet thinks it's worthwhile maybe they will do it as out-patient without an appointment. Hope she bounds back soon. Rhonda > So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not > nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox! The purrs are continuing from here. Hope she makes a solid offering soon. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > I've been trying to tempt her with various foods, but the only thing I > definitely know she's eaten is a small bit of liverwurst [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > shoves it around, then sitting in the water. (sigh... but at least > this too is normal behavior) If Waffles has been ill & she's required something tasty yet gentle on the innards, I've done this: Poach a skinless, boneless chickn breast in water until done Cook some plain boiled rice in water (you could do it in stock, but beware of high salt levels) Mince up the cooked chicken & rice in a food processor, adding water as necessary so it isn't too dry a mix. Feed little & often. Worked for Waffles > Thanks to all who have been purring! > So thanks for all the purrs! Now I just have to get her eating (not > nibbling) and making some kind of "solid" offerings in her litterbox!/// Try her with Gerbers chicken babyfood (without onion, check!) or some Kenntucky fried chicken with the crud taken off in small bits. Alternatively, try some Hills AD died warmed up and mixed with water and syringed into her. Flo my ex-foster who now lives with Andrea Fuller, had a problem similar to Natashas in that she wouldn't eat. Took a couple days of force feeding Hills AD to stimulate her appetite. Works every time for me. > > Thanks to all who have been purring! > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > couple days of force feeding Hills AD to stimulate her appetite. > Works every time for me. I tried the KFC with the skin peeled off route last night. Maybe it was too warm, or maybe the pieces were too big. She ate the first piece and then wanted nothing to do with the rest of it. I force fed her a few other pieces, and she did chew and swallow - at least she didn't spit them right back out at me. She also took her pill without fighting, and is still interested in "greenies". She's got an appointment to see her regular doctor soon. Maybe I can get him to give her some vitamin B to get things started again. Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha >>>Thanks to all who have been purring! >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha A few months ago there was a thread on this ng about the dangers of dog "greenies". We are purring and sending best wishes for Natasha and hugs for you, Jeanne, Polonca and Soncek >Thanks to all who have been purring! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >people (furred and not) who have and do deal with this type of >problem! That is good news, if somewhat puzzling. So, maybe it is just one of those old age glitches in the body. Eccentric, so to speak. I am glad to hear she is at least drinking and feeling good. Purrs, -- CATherine Now we're making a bit of progress! It doesn't look like she ate anything today (or very little at best), but she's still drinking her water. Tonight's food temptation was some canned (water packed) people-tuna, which I don't think she's ever had. (at least I don't remember giving her any) I presented Natasha with a small portion (since she hasn't been eating I don't want to run the risk of her getting sick on food), and she didn't turn away. She did sniff at it for several seconds, then gave a lick. Soon she was licking that small bit of tuna as if her life depended on it. Finished licking, she backed off. Just about all the tuna was still there - the little bugger had been licking the fluids from it! A few minutes later she tried the tuna itself. A few bites, back to the basket. A few minutes in the basket, back to the tuna for a few more bites, and back to the basket (and around and around we go...) I gave her a second, smaller portion, and we're repeating the "dance", although with more time spent in the basket between rounds. Right now she's purring rather loudly. I'm keeping the vet appointment for tomorrow because I want to make sure that there's nothing causing this non-eating other than what now (based on tonight's performance) appears to be a snit. I'd also like a 2nd opinion on why she was so ill and dehydrated last weekend. I do want to see her eating more, though. Hope I'm not inadvertently setting myself up for the finicky eater routine! Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha ============ http://www.jhedge.com YAY! Go Ms Natasha! >Now we're making a bit of progress! > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >============ >http://www.jhedge.com > Now we're making a bit of progress! > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com I give TuTu people tuna once a week when I make myself a tuna sandwich. I can honestly say it is her favorite food. She eats Iams kibble, low calorie and hairball, Fancy Feast chicken & tuna, tuna & whitefish and turkey. She doesn't like beef in anything and if she does eat a small piece she upchucks. Good wishes for Natasha to get her appetite back. The tuna won't hurt unless it is her inly source of food and that would have to be for a prolonged spell. Best wishes. MLB > Now we're making a bit of progress! > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha I hope you saved the water you drained from the tuna. You could give it to her straight or pour a little over something else you want her to eat. Whenever I drain a can of tuna, I divide the water into two dishes, so both of my cats can have some. They love it! Joy > I hope you saved the water you drained from the tuna. You could give it to > her straight or pour a little over something else you want her to eat. > Whenever I drain a can of tuna, I divide the water into two dishes, so both > of my cats can have some. They love it! Oh, yes - that's a very popular item in my house. Canned chicken juice, too. Joyce Hello Jeanne, Hope they can find what's wrong tomorrow. Have they already thoroughly checked her teeth? Good luck, Rhonda > I'm keeping the vet appointment for tomorrow because I want to make > sure that there's nothing causing this non-eating other than what now > (based on tonight's performance) appears to be a snit. I'd also like a > 2nd opinion on why she was so ill and dehydrated last weekend. I am furious. I kept Natasha's appointment with her regular vet today, even though she did eat a little yesterday and was perkier today. So we're in the exam room, and he's looking through all her test results from the emergency vet on Sunday-Monday. Says he: "What antibiotic did they give you? I don't see it here." Says me: "They didn't give me an antibiotic for Natasha, just the Cisapride for her intestines." Says he: "That's strange. According to this, she's got an infection." Turns out, the test results from Sunday show increases in white blood cells, and in baby white blood cells, which means she's got an infection. And she's got white and red blood cells in her urine. In other words, Natasha most likely has a kidney/bladder/urinary tract infection. And those idiots at that expensive emergency clinic didn't catch it at all, but my regular vet saw it looking at *their* test results. *I* even picked up on it, looking at their test results - the white and red values from the urinalysis are marked "HIGH", for heaven's sake. So Natasha now has a week's worth of antibiotics to take, and the vet said that he wouldn't bother with getting the intestinal medicine prescription filled once the original pills are used up. I did ask if the infection might be from her teeth, but he didn't think it likely. I also asked about cancer, and he said he didn't feel any masses during the exam. If she continues to be ill in the longer term, I can have x=rays and ultrasounds done to go looking for something, but he didn't think it was necessary at this time. We also talked about how Tasha could get into the state she was in when I got home Sunday. He said a lot of the problems (dehydration, temperature, no appetite, etc) are balanced off of each other. Get one out of whack, and it may (or may not) through the others off. Basically, he doesn't know for certain, but he thinks an underlying infection could lead to all of it. Natasha didn't have a thing to eat today, continuing to ignore her regular food. So for dinner I gave her a bit more of the tuna, with some of her regular food mixed in. Going from Tasha's reaction, Thanksgiving came early: Gobble. Gobble. Gobble. Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha ============ http://www.jhedge.com I wonder if the emergency vet even looked at Natasha's lab results, probably looked at the wrong ones. How slack of them to not notice! Well hopefully Tasha's condition will pick up soon. Glad she's content with all the special treatment. Dewi. > I am furious. > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com >I am furious. I don't blame you one little bit! If it were my and one of my guys, it would be a good thing it was Friday as I could calm down a little and ask nicely for a refund on Monday. That is the very least they should do. And yes it should absolutely be brought to their attention. Jo > I am furious. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Cisapride for her intestines." > Says he: "That's strange. According to this, she's got an infection."/// I'm so glad that you have a regular vet that is on the ball and that you kept Natasha's appointment. Purrs for a rapid recovery now the proper TED has made sure she is on the right treatments. Helen M > Turns out, the test results from Sunday show increases in white blood > cells, and in baby white blood cells, which means she's got an > infection. And she's got white and red blood cells in her urine. In > other words, Natasha most likely has a kidney/bladder/urinary tract > infection. > And those idiots at that expensive emergency clinic didn't catch it at > all, but my regular vet saw it looking at *their* test results. *I* > even picked up on it, looking at their test results - the white and > red values from the urinalysis are marked "HIGH", for heaven's sake. I don't blame you for being mad! And I agree with other people who have suggested you demand a refund from the emergency vet place. Poor Tasha - all this time not feeling well enough to eat, and nobody's alert enough to notice what's wrong with her! > Natasha didn't have a thing to eat today, continuing to ignore her > regular food. So for dinner I gave her a bit more of the tuna, with > some of her regular food mixed in. > Going from Tasha's reaction, Thanksgiving came early: > Gobble. Gobble. Gobble. Woo hoo!!!! Joyce >I am furious. > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com I don't blame you for being furious! She could have started treatment sooner and maybe be feeling (and eating) better by now. I'm glad your regular vet caught it, and what he said sounds encouraging. I hope you write that emergency clinic a letter so maybe they'll be more on the ball in the future. Joy > Going from Tasha's reaction, Thanksgiving came early: > > Gobble. Gobble. Gobble. LOL! Glad she liked her food. But that is strange with the emergency vet. Hope Natasha is well on her way to recovery now that she has seen your regular vet, who sounds pretty competent. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >> Going from Tasha's reaction, Thanksgiving came early: >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Hope Natasha is well on her way to recovery now that she has seen your > regular vet, who sounds pretty competent. Could the emergency vet have been looking at someone else's test results? Hope there isn't some other poor cat out there with digestive problems being given antibiotics it doesn't need. Jo > I am furious. > [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > ============ > http://www.jhedge.com Please let the emergency vet know about their mistake. Natasha could have started taking the antibiotics when they got the test results and she would be feeling better by now. Lots of purrs and best wishes for Natasha and hugs for you for taking such good care of her, Polonca and Soncek |
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