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Stormin Mormon - 04 Nov 2006 03:40 GMT Snow storm just shut the city down.
With the microwave and electric stove being useless for two weeks, what to do instead? Eating out is nice, but very expensive.
Foods with no cooking, comes to mind. Granola bars, canned meat (Vienna Sausages, etc.) and what else?
And what can we do to cook, since the stove and microwave are off for two weeks?
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Magic Mood Jeep© - 04 Nov 2006 03:42 GMT > Snow storm just shut the city down. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > And what can we do to cook, since the stove and microwave are off for > two weeks? Got a grill? Mind standing out in the cold while the grill (either charcoal or propane) heats up your food? That's be the way to go. Yum :D
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Nov 2006 04:19 GMT "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> > Snow storm just shut the city down. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Foods with no cooking, comes to mind. Granola bars, canned meat > > (Vienna Sausages, etc.) and what else? How about salads and sandwiches? And instead of granola bars, how about granola, or other cereal? Cottage cheese, yogurt, toast (your toaster is OK, right?), fruit, nuts, pre-cooked meats such as cold cuts, cheese, raw veggies?
Joyce
Magic Mood Jeep© - 04 Nov 2006 13:43 GMT > "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > about granola, or other cereal? Cottage cheese, yogurt, toast (your > toaster is OK, right?), <snip> LOL!!! I guess you forgot that *toasters* run on *electricity, eh? ;)
Stormin Mormon - 04 Nov 2006 17:43 GMT The toaster is fine -- just like the furnace. However, without power, as you mention.
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
> How about salads and sandwiches? And instead of granola bars, how > about granola, or other cereal? Cottage cheese, yogurt, toast (your > toaster is OK, right?), <snip> LOL!!! I guess you forgot that *toasters* run on *electricity, eh? ;)
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 04 Nov 2006 23:13 GMT "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> > "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > about granola, or other cereal? Cottage cheese, yogurt, toast (your > > toaster is OK, right?), <snip>
> LOL!!! I guess you forgot that *toasters* run on *electricity, eh? ;) I'm sorry, I didn't see the original post, but only saw your response, and I saw that the stove and microwave weren't functioning, but I didn't realize that was because he didn't have electricity.
Untoasted bread isn't bad either, of course! :)
I guess this means he doesn't have a fridge, either - but then, there's always the outdoors. :)
Joyce
jmcquown - 05 Nov 2006 03:34 GMT > "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Joyce Yep, if it's that cold just set the food out in a cooler or ice chest in a snow bank. It will stay frozen!
Jill
John F. Eldredge - 05 Nov 2006 03:39 GMT >> "Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >Yep, if it's that cold just set the food out in a cooler or ice chest in a >snow bank. It will stay frozen! Just make sure that the ice chest or container is sturdy enough that the local critters can't get into it, or else you may find that the local wildlife and/or pets have eaten your dinner.
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Baha - 08 Nov 2006 20:05 GMT In our case, Sto'Mo' was referring to the recent unpleasantness in the Buffalo area. My husband is now officially kicking himself for not buying that grill I'd been nagging about all last spring and summer. Our power was completely out so no stove, not even heat as our furnace (gas) was juiced by an electric igniter. I ate a lot of dry Fruit Loops, which are actually pretty addictive and I blame Chris for vringing them over and starting that naughty habit.
Blessed be, Baha
>"Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Joyce Stormin Mormon - 09 Nov 2006 02:26 GMT Yes, fruit loops are good right out of the box. Glad you were able to enjoy them. With plenty of artificial colors to keep you hyper.
I don't know if I was too subtle, but here is what I tried to get the group to say:
* Preparations are like anything, most folks start small. Some extra groceries, a table top cook stove (Wegmans $20) some propane cylinders. These things you can have in a couple days. The generator is a neat idea. But it's some time for the future. Having an interesting discussion about generators is fun, but please do the simple things now while you are thinking about it. * Buying food two days at a time is not a good plan. You've got a large cellar. Please put in some shelves, and stock some canned goods with a long shelf life, some no cook foods, and some bottled water. * Backup heat and light is a good idea. I can give you several ideas for that. And, in the under fifty dollars range, too.
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
In our case, Sto'Mo' was referring to the recent unpleasantness in the Buffalo area. My husband is now officially kicking himself for not buying that grill I'd been nagging about all last spring and summer. Our power was completely out so no stove, not even heat as our furnace (gas) was juiced by an electric igniter. I ate a lot of dry Fruit Loops, which are actually pretty addictive and I blame Chris for vringing them over and starting that naughty habit.
Blessed be, Baha
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net wrote:
>"Magic Mood Jeep?" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Joyce Cheryl - 09 Nov 2006 03:11 GMT > I don't know if I was too subtle, but here is what I tried to > get the group to say: You can't get a group to say what you want a group to say. I deliberately held back my first thought reply of a generator because it just isn't practical or cost effective for those who rarely encounter power failures, or couldn't afford to buy one that might just sit unused. I happen to have one, even though long term power failures here are rare, but when it happens, it's too hard to live that way. Its sort of like in the IT industry where you have a failover server sitting there dormant until needed. Hard to justify. But when you needed it and didn't have it, it is hard to say why you didn't.
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Matthew - 09 Nov 2006 03:24 GMT Small generators that can run a hot plate or a toaster oven some lights and a fan are around $200 or less depending where you are and can be easily stored in a small area some are the size of cat box. I bought; during the 2004 hurricanes, a 5500 watt it ran my frig ,freezer, phone system, computer system, several entertainments centers, lights fans could have ran an a/c but we lived with out it thought having ice cubes and frozen food was more worth it. The generator ran us $500 I store it in the outside shed start it up once a month change the oil one a year. Now I have a house back up system that use solar power and natural gas
Now I won't tell you how big of ones that I bought to run my stores.
>> I don't know if I was too subtle, but here is what I tried to >> get the group to say: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > But when you needed it and didn't have it, it is hard to say why you > didn't. Matthew - 09 Nov 2006 03:29 GMT Actually the best thing to do is always have a 3 day emergency supplies in a back pack storage unit so if you ever have to run out your house you can grab it and survive. I have one in every car and at the closet by the front door.
MRE from any camping stores are the best bet you can store them for years. They are not half bad http://beprepared.com/search.asp?t=ss&ss=mre&sid=GOOGLE&EID=GL0000140 http://www.coleman.com/coleman/ColemanCom/category_main.asp?CategoryID=28000
> Yes, fruit loops are good right out of the box. Glad you were able to > enjoy them. With plenty of artificial colors to keep you hyper. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >> >>Joyce sriddles@aol.com - 09 Nov 2006 06:01 GMT > Yes, fruit loops are good right out of the box. Glad you were able to > enjoy them. With plenty of artificial colors to keep you hyper. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Christopher A. Young Well, that's a pompous load of crap. If you already had the answers, next time just post them, or better yet e-mail them to the party for whom you're trying to manipulate this group into responding for. Much simpler than trying not to be "too subtle" for a group of cat lovers who obviously lack the survivalist skills to adequately play the game.
Sherry
Stormin Mormon - 09 Nov 2006 14:16 GMT I will not stand for this impudence! Genuflect when you say that!
More seriously, it sure was and is a good discussion. And I don't think cat lovers are more or less prepared than anyone else.
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
Well, that's a pompous load of crap. If you already had the answers, next time just post them, or better yet e-mail them to the party for whom you're trying to manipulate this group into responding for. Much simpler than trying not to be "too subtle" for a group of cat lovers who obviously lack the survivalist skills to adequately play the game.
Sherry
Matthew - 09 Nov 2006 14:23 GMT >I will not stand for this impudence! Genuflect when you say that! > > More seriously, it sure was and is a good discussion. And I don't > think cat lovers are more or less prepared than anyone else. I am but I live in a disaster prone state and having cats have made more aware of what is need for not just me but them also
> Christopher A. Young > You can't shout down a troll. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry Stormin Mormon - 09 Nov 2006 20:03 GMT I'd like to think that cat lovers are MORE prepared than other citizens. Cause they have both themselves to care for, and also the cats.
Also, it appears to be a mental mindset, or a family training. Some families go two days food at a time, and others pack the house like the end of the world is near, and we'll have to stay indoors for the rest of our lives.
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
I am but I live in a disaster prone state and having cats have made more aware of what is need for not just me but them also
Cheryl Perkins - 10 Nov 2006 00:55 GMT > I'd like to think that cat lovers are MORE prepared than other > citizens. Cause they have both themselves to care for, and also the > cats.
> Also, it appears to be a mental mindset, or a family training. Some > families go two days food at a time, and others pack the house like > the end of the world is near, and we'll have to stay indoors for the > rest of our lives. Well...also location. Some areas are far more prone to lengthy periods without access to food and the other amenities than others - and those that are likely to suffer natural disasters don't all suffer the same ones. I'd prepare for trouble somewhat differently in areas frequently threatened by hurricanes, blizzards, earthquakes, etc.; and within each area, whether one is rural/urban/suburban; on the grid or off it, etc.
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Matthew - 10 Nov 2006 02:23 GMT >> I'd like to think that cat lovers are MORE prepared than other >> citizens. Cause they have both themselves to care for, and also the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > threatened by hurricanes, blizzards, earthquakes, etc.; and within each > area, whether one is rural/urban/suburban; on the grid or off it, etc. Yeappie I live in central Florida lightning capital of the USA, Hurricane center, old folks at ever corner, Severe storms almost every time it rains, Forest fires , Tornadoes every time there is a severe storm. I prepare like there will be no tomorrow.
Came in handy yesterday some idiot being chased by the cops ran into a power relay and took out the power pole the neighborhood had no power till around midnight from 8 am. Walked outside flipped a switch and by the gods there was POWER!!!. Had my neighbors come over an let them use the grill and my outside cooking area had a small block party It was such a beautiful night
tanada - 10 Nov 2006 03:02 GMT > Also, it appears to be a mental mindset, or a family training. Some > families go two days food at a time, and others pack the house like > the end of the world is near, and we'll have to stay indoors for the > rest of our lives. You, you, you mean the world isn't ending and we'll have to stay indoors for the rest of our lives? I'm so bummed.
On another note, Emily, our 79 Ford Tempo is on strike (her battery is working but nobody is home) and Jesse, the person I get a ride to school with when Emily is on strike, is without a van since the battery in his blew up today. It looks like I have a four day weekend this week.
Pam S. who wanted to go to school....
Jo Firey - 10 Nov 2006 03:36 GMT >> Also, it appears to be a mental mindset, or a family training. Some >> families go two days food at a time, and others pack the house like [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Pam S. who wanted to go to school.... Sounds like the grandson, who blew up his car last week. He can't figure out how to get to work or school, poor kid.
Then again he dropped English and Math and is now just taking weight lifting, career planning, and American Government, so maybe he really does want to go to school.
(I explained to him about bus schedules.)
I do hope Emily works out her electrical communication problems.
Jo
tanada - 10 Nov 2006 03:48 GMT > Sounds like the grandson, who blew up his car last week. He can't figure > out how to get to work or school, poor kid. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I do hope Emily works out her electrical communication problems. I wish a bus was near here. The closest one runs about 6 miles from our house, and I would have to walk up a busy road with more lanes under construction and no side walks. This is one of the drawbacks of the suburbs, I guess.
I got to get her fixed within a week as we have to go to Chapel Hill to consult with another neurologist next Friday.
Pam S. bummed
tanada - 11 Nov 2006 21:56 GMT > I wish a bus was near here. The closest one runs about 6 miles from our > house, and I would have to walk up a busy road with more lanes under [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Pam S. bummed Things have improved. Emily's problem turned to be some strange sort of old age thing that I call arthritis in her gear shift. Sometimes, when you put her in park, she will cut out rather than start up (the tow truck driver figured this out YAY for some tow truck drivers!) and all we have to do to get her to start up when she's having arthritis, is to jiggle her gear shift knob/lever or whatever you call it. It really sounds kinky, but it works.
Jesse's van blew up a second time after the batter was replaced. His mom bought him a 2002 Dodge Intrepid. Great, but she talked to dad and he wants her to keep the Dodge, and get the van fixed. Dad is returning from an overseas job in the next 6 months or so, and you can guess why he wants the van fixed. Jesse hopes it isn't so. He was going to sell the van to me for $50 and I was going to get it fixed through the college. Not happening now, but for one brief period, I was looking at a second vehicle. Sigh. but at least I won't have to repair it.
Pam S. glad to be able to drive up to Chapel Hill on Thursday/Friday
Stormin Mormon - 14 Nov 2006 14:06 GMT Does that mean you don't have to cook Emily before you eat her?
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
Things have improved. Emily's problem turned to be some strange sort of old age thing that I call arthritis in her gear shift. Sometimes, when you put her in park, she will cut out rather than start up (the tow truck driver figured this out YAY for some tow truck drivers!) and all we have to do to get her to start up when she's having arthritis, is to jiggle her gear shift knob/lever or whatever you call it. It really sounds kinky, but it works.
Jesse's van blew up a second time after the batter was replaced. His mom bought him a 2002 Dodge Intrepid. Great, but she talked to dad and he wants her to keep the Dodge, and get the van fixed. Dad is returning from an overseas job in the next 6 months or so, and you can guess why he wants the van fixed. Jesse hopes it isn't so. He was going to sell the van to me for $50 and I was going to get it fixed through the college. Not happening now, but for one brief period, I was looking at a second vehicle. Sigh. but at least I won't have to repair it.
Pam S. glad to be able to drive up to Chapel Hill on Thursday/Friday
tanada - 14 Nov 2006 23:19 GMT > Does that mean you don't have to cook Emily before you eat her? Nope, she'll probably cook herself some day.
Pam S.
Stormin Mormon - 14 Nov 2006 14:06 GMT Does he at least have some no-cook foods in his car?
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
Sounds like the grandson, who blew up his car last week. He can't figure out how to get to work or school, poor kid.
Then again he dropped English and Math and is now just taking weight lifting, career planning, and American Government, so maybe he really does want to go to school.
(I explained to him about bus schedules.)
I do hope Emily works out her electrical communication problems.
Jo
Jo Firey - 14 Nov 2006 18:27 GMT > Does he at least have some no-cook foods in his car? Like many other eighteen year old boys, he thinks food is fast food and cereal and that they are always magically available. Or that someone will feed him.
So far its always been true.
About the most planning that can be expected of him is to have enough gas in his car to get where he plans to go. And only because he has learned that the hard way. More than once.
Jo
> Christopher A. Young > You can't shout down a troll. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Jo Stormin Mormon - 04 Nov 2006 17:43 GMT Propane stores forever, unless it leaks out. The cheapest propane stove I've seen is about $20. The propane bottles (cylinders) are about three bucks each, and worth every penny.
Love your email program. "Stormin Mormon purred...."
I have a table top propane grill, got it off the curb for free. Works very nicely, too. No idea why they threw out a perfectly working grill.
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
In news:y4T2h.966$zB4.255@twister.nyroc.rr.com, Stormin Mormon purred:
Got a grill? Mind standing out in the cold while the grill (either charcoal or propane) heats up your food? That's be the way to go. Yum :D
jmcquown - 05 Nov 2006 12:43 GMT > Propane stores forever, unless it leaks out. That's a funny statement.... and then you are left with what? Nothing.
Stormin Mormon - 06 Nov 2006 02:15 GMT Fortunately, leaky tanks are very uncommon. Usually only after refilling the 16 ouncers. And mosf folks who refil check for leaks. So, it's not a likely issue.
I'd rather risk leaky propane, as compared to wet charcoal.
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Propane stores forever, unless it leaks out. That's a funny statement.... and then you are left with what? Nothing.
Joy - 04 Nov 2006 04:14 GMT > Snow storm just shut the city down. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > And what can we do to cook, since the stove and microwave are off for > two weeks? Purrs for power to come back on quickly. In the meantime, if you could get a camp stove and a couple of small tanks of propane, you could cook and heat water. Good luck!
Joy
Stormin Mormon - 04 Nov 2006 17:43 GMT Thanks. Their power came back on Saturday a couple weeks ago, it had been out for over a week. Pleased that all four of their cats were role models for the twolegs.
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
Purrs for power to come back on quickly. In the meantime, if you could get a camp stove and a couple of small tanks of propane, you could cook and heat water. Good luck!
Joy
Enfilade - 04 Nov 2006 12:50 GMT Get a whole bunch of cans of Chef Boyardee and other tinned pastas. They are nicer warm, but okay cold as they are already cooked and fairly tasty. Same deal with canned vegetables like corn...you only "cook" them to warm them up.
Carrots and salad are nice raw, add bread and a tin of meat and there you go.
--Fil
sriddles@aol.com - 04 Nov 2006 15:46 GMT > Snow storm just shut the city down. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Christopher A. Young We finally set up a coleman burner, we got so sick of cold food. DH is a real dutch-oven chef back from his Scoutmaster days too. We even had hot biscuits and cobbler. :-) You could fix up a "Cracker Barrel" like Boy Scouts do. Cut up different cheeses and cold cuts and a variety of crackers. (But it's still *cold food*!) Hope you get your power back before 2 weeks! That's a long time.
Sherry
Matthew - 04 Nov 2006 16:00 GMT I will post some thing you can make with out power here when I get a chance. Us Floridians know all about not having power for over two weeks
>> Snow storm just shut the city down. >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Sherry Yowie - 04 Nov 2006 23:05 GMT > Snow storm just shut the city down. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > And what can we do to cook, since the stove and microwave are off for > two weeks? Do you have a camp burner or gas? A BBQ?
We have gas hot water & stove, but electric oven. If the gas went off, we'd be having hip baths and using the electric frypan alot, if the electriity went out, we'd be very bored but could cook and have showers.
Yowie
Stormin Mormon - 05 Nov 2006 00:35 GMT Actually, yes, I have all of that and more. My concern is more for Baha, and her family. Who have some things lacking.
 Signature Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .
Do you have a camp burner or gas? A BBQ?
We have gas hot water & stove, but electric oven. If the gas went off, we'd be having hip baths and using the electric frypan alot, if the electriity went out, we'd be very bored but could cook and have showers.
Yowie
Baha - 09 Nov 2006 23:27 GMT This was something Louie and I had been arguing about for some time: getting the grill, even a little hibachi-thing or one of those hot plates that runn off profane gas or some such thing. Now he's talkign about a generator too, and NOW. He's even asking the mortgage guys for a moratorium or deferment so we can winterize a little better.
In the meantime, I'm just going to try to grow a full-body fur coat.
Blessed be, Baha
>> Snow storm just shut the city down. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Yowie Jo Firey - 10 Nov 2006 00:22 GMT > This was something Louie and I had been arguing about for some time: > getting [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > In the meantime, I'm just going to try to grow a full-body fur coat. I'm working on the winter fur coat myself. I had my fingernails done this morning. Started to ask the manicurist to polish my toenails too. Remembered how long its been since I shaved my legs and almost changed my mind. But figured she'd seen worse so now have nice bright toes too.
(And believe it or not this does relate to cats. The only real reason I get my nails done is because they are naturally very soft. The fake ones scritch so much better.)
Jo
jmcquown - 04 Nov 2006 23:26 GMT > Snow storm just shut the city down. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Foods with no cooking, comes to mind. Granola bars, canned meat > (Vienna Sausages, etc.) and what else? EEEEK! None of the above! You need a way to cook something. Sheesh, I wrote about this a couple not long ago... you must have a way to cook.
> And what can we do to cook, since the stove and microwave are off for > two weeks? You've gotta have a grill and some charcoal (or if you must, propane, although propane tends to run out and not be easy to find in a prolonged power outage because there's a run on it). Even if it's only a hibachi. You can cook just about anything on a grill as long as you have some cast iron cookware.
And you must have some coolers (this is assuming you have anything at all in your freezer or fridge, and I'm not convinced you do.) Ice may be hard to find. This time of year depending upon where you are you can often freeze water in big ziplock bags just by setting them outside then use them to keep the frozen or refrigerated stuff cold.
I keep a lot of lump (wood) charcoal and I have a charcoal grill. I also have a number of coolers so stuff in my freezer doesn't thaw out and become useless.
For inside the house I have oil lamps and lamp oil, plenty of flashlights and batteries stored in the refrigerator. Candles aren't cats best friends. I have wood for my fireplace. If you don't have a fireplace, you may be able to use some sort of a camping heater but be sure it can be used inside - kerosene is a NO NO! Or maybe you can hook up a generator to power your electricity. I don't recommend electric "space heaters" because they are notorious for starting fires (I don't care what your precautions are, you hear about the fires every year in the winter).
Good luck. I'm glad the last time my electricity went out for a week it was in the summer. I cooked on the grill; made everything from bacon & eggs and biscuits to jambalaya with sausage in an enameled cast iron skillet. It can be done.
Jill
Stormin Mormon - 05 Nov 2006 00:40 GMT Stormin Mormon wrote:
> Foods with no cooking, comes to mind. Granola bars, canned meat > (Vienna Sausages, etc.) and what else? EEEEK! None of the above! You need a way to cook something. Sheesh, I wrote about this a couple not long ago... you must have a way to cook. CY: I imagine you'll give a couple suggestions?
> And what can we do to cook, since the stove and microwave are off for > two weeks? You've gotta have a grill and some charcoal (or if you must, propane, although propane tends to run out and not be easy to find in a prolonged power outage because there's a run on it). Even if it's only a hibachi. You can cook just about anything on a grill as long as you have some cast iron cookware. CY: Excellent ideas. And how to store food? And how to heat the house? As for myself, I do have several propane bottles at home, and an outdoor grill. And a spare tank for the outdoor grill. I'm more worried for Baha, who has aparently neither charcoal, table top, nor outdoor grill.
And you must have some coolers (this is assuming you have anything at all in your freezer or fridge, and I'm not convinced you do.) Ice may be hard to find. This time of year depending upon where you are you can often freeze water in big ziplock bags just by setting them outside then use them to keep the frozen or refrigerated stuff cold.
I keep a lot of lump (wood) charcoal and I have a charcoal grill. I also have a number of coolers so stuff in my freezer doesn't thaw out and become useless.
For inside the house I have oil lamps and lamp oil, plenty of flashlights and batteries stored in the refrigerator. Candles aren't cats best friends. CY: I'd imagine candles would need wall brackets, and then be way up high.
I have wood for my fireplace. If you don't have a fireplace, you may be able to use some sort of a camping heater but be sure it can be used inside - kerosene is a NO NO! CY: Why not kerosene? Sounds like you've had a personal experience with it.
Or maybe you can hook up a generator to power your electricity. I don't recommend electric "space heaters" because they are notorious for starting fires (I don't care what your precautions are, you hear about the fires every year in the winter). CY: Space heaters are good when the furnace is dead, but the electric is on. Howver, they are useless during a power cut.
Good luck. I'm glad the last time my electricity went out for a week it was in the summer. I cooked on the grill; made everything from bacon & eggs and biscuits to jambalaya with sausage in an enameled cast iron skillet. It can be done. CY: Thanks for the encouragement. And the common sense ideas.
Jill
jmcquown - 05 Nov 2006 03:33 GMT > I have wood for my fireplace. If you don't have a fireplace, you may > be > able to use some sort of a camping heater but be sure it can be used > inside - kerosene is a NO NO! > CY: Why not kerosene? Sounds like you've had a personal experience > with it. Kerosene heaters/stoves are not intended for indoor use - carbon monoxide poisoning. I've not had personal experience with it but during an ice storm here a few years back some folks decided to use them to heat the inside of the house with very bad results. Others had gasoline powered generators to run their electricity, but they thought they'd run from inside closed garages rather than from the outside - again, carbon monoxide poisoning.
You might want to have a look-see here for some ideas for the next go-round without electricity :) This place has cool and cheap metal enameled cookware which can be used on a grill or on your stove or in the oven (look up "grannyware"). They cater primarily to the Amish population which is why it's called the "Non-Electric Cataglog" :)
www.lehmans.com
Jill
Stormin Mormon - 05 Nov 2006 03:53 GMT Stormin Mormon wrote:
> I have wood for my fireplace. If you don't have a fireplace, you may > be > able to use some sort of a camping heater but be sure it can be used > inside - kerosene is a NO NO! > CY: Why not kerosene? Sounds like you've had a personal experience > with it. Kerosene heaters/stoves are not intended for indoor use - carbon monoxide poisoning. I've not had personal experience with it but during an ice storm here a few years back some folks decided to use them to heat the inside of the house with very bad results. CY: I don't know where you live, but in the Rochester NY area, several stores sell kerosene heaters designed for indoors. I got my last one, a Dyna-Glo, at Walmart. I've had three, the first one I can't remember where I got it. Second was curbside. I don't think monoxide is a serious issue with kerosene.
Others had gasoline powered generators to run their electricity, but they thought they'd run from inside closed garages rather than from the outside - again, carbon monoxide poisoning. CY: Monoxide is a serious issue with gasoline equipment. Buffalo lost an elderly couple who ran their generator indoors. (You'd think they would know?). atached garages also a problem.
You might want to have a look-see here for some ideas for the next go-round without electricity :) This place has cool and cheap metal enameled cookware which can be used on a grill or on your stove or in the oven (look up "grannyware"). They cater primarily to the Amish population which is why it's called the "Non-Electric Cataglog" :)
www.lehmans.com CY: Excellent resource. I'm doing fairly well for backup equipment. I'm more worried about Baha and Louie. Hoping she sees some of these posts, and considers budgeting for equipment. Starting small, and then working up to larger equipment later.
Jill
John F. Eldredge - 05 Nov 2006 00:53 GMT >> Snow storm just shut the city down. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >You can cook just about anything on a grill as long as you have some cast >iron cookware. Propane can be used indoors, with caution. Charcoal grills should only be used outside, as they are notorious for producing carbon monoxide and will slowly poison you if used indoors, unless your house is considerably better ventilated (read: draftier) than most modern construction. If you have a fireplace designed for wood-burning, it is possible to cook over coals, as the pioneers did. A more practical solution, if you have it, is a wood-burning stove, as it delivers more of the heat into the room as opposed to up the chimney. During my parents' last 30 years of life, spent here in Nashville, my father used a wood-burning stove to supply about half of his total home heating (the rest was from electric heaters).
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Lesley - 05 Nov 2006 01:21 GMT > Snow storm just shut the city down. > > With the microwave and electric stove being useless for two weeks, > what to do instead? Eating out is nice, but very expensive. Hmmm good question. You are getting a reply from someone who probably wouldn't suffer too much under the circumstances since I tend to eat a lot of salads. I keep all the bits in my fridge and simply go through and pick what I fancy and throw it on the plate. And if nothing else I adore a meal of cheese and crackers or rice cakes.
Okay....someone here said sweetcorn is fine cold and yes I'd agree with that but I have to tell you about the best meal I ever ate and it was done on a fire.
Dave and me were at a festival and the last night, us and the friends we had with us had only a couple of pounds of onions and some flour left. So we chopped the onions and put them in water and put the pan on the fire then we mixed flour and water as one of us had a cast iron griddle thingy so we figured onion soup and a sort of chapati. Okay so the soup is going to be watery and there isn't enough flour so it's going to be a bit small but it's hot
Never underestimate the power of onions...
After about 10 minutes someone came out of the next tent and said they had a few carrots and if they donated them could they get a share? So in went the carrots
Then someone else said they had a few potatoes so in they went
Then a queue started forming..."We've got a few lentils left and some split peas can we put them in and get a share?"
"We got some ham but we've got nothing to go with it...If we add it to the pot can we share?"
"We've got some corn and some carrots and a few mushrooms can we have a share?"
And so it went on, someone had some spuds and someone else had some foil so we cooked those spuds in the embers
Someone else had nothing food wise but had a much bigger pot so we transferred the by now close to overflowing contents of the first pot to the second and put it on the fire.
Someone had nothing but offered to get water and firewood
We even had people who offered joints for what was fast becoming an amazingly delicious stew, Or they had flour and water so they added their chapati's to ours
I think at some point someone even added some garlic!
In the end about 30 of us sat down to an amazing stew, with loads of chapati's and jacket spuds! (One donor provided butter, salt and some cheese)
We kept that stew going all night!
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
jmcquown - 05 Nov 2006 03:37 GMT >> Snow storm just shut the city down. >> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Ah yes, the legendary "Stone Soup" :) I love the idea.
Jill
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