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Tish - 22 Oct 2006 02:10 GMT
I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
searching Australians entering the USA and confiscating their precious
vegemite (black gold).  This is apparently because it contains added
folate (a B vitamin) and the FDA stipulates that folate may only be an
added ingredient to bread and cereals.  Since vegemite is the
by-product of beer brewing (being extracted from the sludge left at
the bottom of the vat during brewing - doesn't it sound enticing?), it
is neither bread nor cereal.  Australia would grind to a slow, painful
halt if vegemite disappeared, so *how* will the USA cope?

LOL
Tish
Karen - 22 Oct 2006 02:35 GMT
> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> LOL
> Tish

Well that's really wierd! I mean, yeah, vegemite is wierd as I
understand it, but how strange to ban it?I could swear that there is
folate in things other than bread and cereal.
Will in New Haven - 22 Oct 2006 02:43 GMT
> > I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> > yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> understand it, but how strange to ban it?I could swear that there is
> folate in things other than bread and cereal.

Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
Australia for the war crime of exporting the stuff. That or ship them
some okra in retaliation.

Will in New Haven

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Tish - 22 Oct 2006 02:47 GMT
>Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
>nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
>Australia for the war crime of exporting the stuff. That or ship them
>some okra in retaliation.
>
>Will in New Haven

mmmm .... okra!  My okra seedlings are just germinating now, so it
will be several months until we have any to harvest.  If okra is
cooked the Greek or Indian way it loses that nasty mucus and is really
very palatable.  I made the mistake only once of trying tinned okra -
man-o-man was that stuff *nasty*!

Tish
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 05:33 GMT
>>Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
>>nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Tish

What's the Greek or Indian way?  It might be interesting to try -- we have
lots of Okra here, but I never liked the slimy texture (and I do not eat
breaded or deep-fried).

Thanks,
MaryL
tension_on_the_wire - 22 Oct 2006 06:24 GMT
> >>Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
> >>nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks,
> MaryL

You can get rid of the slimy texture a great deal by using
1) onions in the mix
2) lemon juice in the recipe
3) dried mango powder

Also, cut the okra in half, after trimming the ends, and wash
them in cold running water for at least ten minutes, that gets
rid of a lot of the goo.

It cooks well with tomatoes.  If you try all these things at
once in a stir-fry fashion, you might get a pleasant
surprise.

I have a great recipe from the "Bombay Palace"
cookbook.

--tension

sorry for recipe-ing even tho there's no trolls here!
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 06:36 GMT
>> >>Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
>> >>nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> sorry for recipe-ing even tho there's no trolls here!

Thanks.  I'll try some of that.

The recipe didn't come through.  Will you please send or post it?

MaryL
mlbriggs - 22 Oct 2006 06:33 GMT
>>>Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
>>>nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Thanks,
> MaryL

The kind I buy in cans is kind of pickled..MLB
Tish - 22 Oct 2006 08:05 GMT
>What's the Greek or Indian way?  It might be interesting to try -- we have
>lots of Okra here, but I never liked the slimy texture (and I do not eat
>breaded or deep-fried).
>
>Thanks,
>MaryL

I can't lay my hands on any recipes just at the moment, but the common
feature of both methods of preparing okra is to use some acid (lemon
juice, lime juice or vinegar) in the cooking.  This seems to cut the
mucus and leave behind a lovely, slightly crunchy piquant vegetable.
We tend to cook ours in a vegetarian curry style or as a
pan-fried-then-braised side-dish; both methods use very little oil.  
I can't imagine breaded and deep fried okra, but then I guess anything
can be deep fried if you feel you must!

Tish
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 08:43 GMT
>>What's the Greek or Indian way?  It might be interesting to try -- we have
>>lots of Okra here, but I never liked the slimy texture (and I do not eat
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Tish

Thanks, I think I'll try that.  I live in East Texas, and it is very common
here to find okra cut into bite-size pieces, then deep-fried with a crust.
It actually is tasty that way, but I no longer eat deep-fried food.

MaryL
Tish - 22 Oct 2006 08:51 GMT
>> I can't lay my hands on any recipes just at the moment, but the common
>> feature of both methods of preparing okra is to use some acid (lemon
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>MaryL

Sorry, I in no way intended to dis that way of cooking okra.  After
re-reading my answer it came across as rather high-handed and
downright rude.  It wasn't meant to be that way.  I don't eat much in
the way of fried foods these days either (although sometimes crave
something fried), so I try to avoid putting temptation in my path.
Tish
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 10:01 GMT
>>> I can't lay my hands on any recipes just at the moment, but the common
>>> feature of both methods of preparing okra is to use some acid (lemon
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> something fried), so I try to avoid putting temptation in my path.
> Tish

No, I did not interpret your remarks as rude.  I just thought they were a
commentary on food, and my reply was meant to illustrate different
techniques in different areas of the world (or of the country).  No apology
necessary, Tish!  I appreciated your reply.

MaryL
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Oct 2006 15:55 GMT
> >>What's the Greek or Indian way?  It might be interesting to try -- we have
> >>lots of Okra here, but I never liked the slimy texture (and I do not eat
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> MaryL

I don't eat fried food anymore either, and okra is one of the summer
things I miss most! I have a recipe for bite-sized, breaded okra that
you bake. It's a reasonable facsimile of the real thing, although a
little dry :-(
Tish, okra is a staple here in the summer, but then we fry too much in
the south to be healthy. We also fry squash and green tomatoes. I love
to dump cut okra, cut tomatoes and cut onion in a pan and simmer it and
eat with cornbread.
Wish I could try vegemite. I'm very curious now!

Sherry
kilikini - 22 Oct 2006 16:15 GMT
>> Thanks, I think I'll try that.  I live in East Texas, and it is very
>> common here to find okra cut into bite-size pieces, then deep-fried
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Sherry

My husband is an okra fiend and he fries his in cornmeal occasionally.
Would a baked breading work just as well?  You'd have to turn the pieces
over individually as they cook, of course, but I wonder if that would work?

kili
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Oct 2006 18:30 GMT
> >> Thanks, I think I'll try that.  I live in East Texas, and it is very
> >> common here to find okra cut into bite-size pieces, then deep-fried
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> kili

Kili, here is how I cook it since I got on the lowfat diet. It's pretty
dry, not as good as fried, but I like it as a substitute for the real
thing.
BAKED OKRA
1-1/2 cup yellow cornmeal
Salt & Pepper
1/2 cup fatree buttermilk
1 egg, slightly beaten (I just use the whites)
About 3 cups okra cut in 3/4 inch pieces.
1. Preheat overn to 450
2. Mix cornmeal with 1/2 tsp. each salt & Pepper
3. Mix buttermilk & egg with whisk. Toss okra to coat & let stand 3
minutes
4. Dredge okra in buttermilk. Spray shallow pan liberally with cooking
spray and put okra on pan. Spray top of okra with cooking spray
5. Bake for 40 minutes, turning once.
6. Sprinkle with some more salt & pepper.
Annie Wxill - 22 Oct 2006 17:57 GMT
...> Wish I could try vegemite. I'm very curious now!
> Sherry

Heh! What better way to make people want something than to forbid it!

I foresee a black market of vegemite in the U.S. as people  who never tried
it will go to any lengths to get it.  Smarmy people in trench coats will
hang out on street corners trying to make a deal with formerly law-abiding
citizens.  Beware, some of them most likely will be undercover agents.

So goes the war on vegemite.

Annie
Christina Websell - 23 Oct 2006 20:23 GMT
> ...> Wish I could try vegemite. I'm very curious now!
>> Sherry
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>
> Annie

LOL!  Has the US banned Marmite too?  It's a very similar product.  If all
else fails ex-pat Aussies in the US will have to descend to spreading
Marmite on their toast.

Tweed
badwilson - 24 Oct 2006 01:21 GMT
>> ...> Wish I could try vegemite. I'm very curious now!
>>> Sherry
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Tweed

I talked about this last night with 2 British ladies I know over here
and they claim that Marmite has no folate, so expat Aussies could very
well switch over but none will be too pleased since the general
consensus here seems to be that Marmite is totally different and vile.
But I'd have to guess at that since I've never tried Marmite.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Oct 2006 18:54 GMT
>>>What's the Greek or Indian way?  It might be interesting to try -- we have
>>>lots of Okra here, but I never liked the slimy texture (and I do not eat
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> here to find okra cut into bite-size pieces, then deep-fried with a crust.
> It actually is tasty that way, but I no longer eat deep-fried food.

Since I learned the method from my ex's mother (who came for
Louisiana) I assume you southerners already know this one,
but I like okra cooked with tomato, celery and onion.  Once
I learned that you do NOT cook it in large quantities of
water, I was okay with it.  Hunt used to put out canned
stewed tomatoes which contained celery and onion.  I would
use a small can of those to about two cups of sliced raw
okra (no additional liquid) and cook gently over low heat
until done.  A nice side dish - sort of like gumbo without
the chicken and shrimp.

> MaryL
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 19:41 GMT
>>>>What's the Greek or Indian way?  It might be interesting to try -- we
>>>>have
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>
>> MaryL

Thanks!  That does sound similar to what I was once served at a friend's
house (and it was good).  I have lived in East Texas for many years, but I
grew up in Ohio.  I'm not much of a cook and look for low-fat foods, so I
never did pick up on a lot of Southern dishes that are delicious but often
loaded with fat.  As it turns out, that is just as well for my health.

MaryL
John F. Eldredge - 22 Oct 2006 20:02 GMT
>>>>What's the Greek or Indian way?  It might be interesting to try -- we have
>>>>lots of Okra here, but I never liked the slimy texture (and I do not eat
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>until done.  A nice side dish - sort of like gumbo without
>the chicken and shrimp.

I have never tried to prepare it myself, but pickled okra is fairly
tasty.  It has a moderately crisp texture, not unlike pickled
cucumbers.

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Tish - 22 Oct 2006 21:29 GMT
Whilst the Queensland Sunday Mail is not the most reliable of
newspapers, it has mentioned the bizarre vegemite in America thing. I
wonder how one would go arguing that since vegemite is [thinly] spread
on toast, it is effectively adding folate to bread?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20620744-953,00.html

the text ...

US bans Vegemite

Kelvin Healey

October 22, 2006 12:00am
Article from: The Sunday Mail (Qld)

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THE United States has slapped a ban on Vegemite, outraging Australian
expatriates there.
The bizarre crackdown was prompted because Vegemite contains folate,
which in the US can be added only to breads and cereals.

Expatriates say that enforcement of the ban has been stepped up
recently and is ruining lifelong traditions of having Vegemite on
toast for breakfast.

Former Geelong man Daniel Fogarty, who now lives in Calgary, Canada,
said he was stunned when searched while crossing the US border
recently.

"The border guard asked us if we were carrying any Vegemite," Mr
Fogarty said.

"I was flabbergasted." Paul Watkins, who owns a store called About
Australia in San Antonio, Texas, said he had been forced to stop
importing Vegemite six months ago.

"We have completely stopped bringing it in," he said.

"(US authorities) have made a stance and there is nothing that can be
done about it."
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Oct 2006 23:44 GMT
> >>>What's the Greek or Indian way?  It might be interesting to try -- we have
> >>>lots of Okra here, but I never liked the slimy texture (and I do not eat
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> until done.  A nice side dish - sort of like gumbo without
> the chicken and shrimp.

Oh, yes. Very good with warm cornbread too. I also cut a little okra up
into stews or tomato-based soups if it is in season.

Sherry
lewe - 23 Oct 2006 10:37 GMT
>> mmmm .... okra!  My okra seedlings are just germinating now, so it
>> will be several months until we have any to harvest.  If okra is
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks,
> MaryL

Ok, I have to get in to this - okra is one of my favourites ...
I know it grom Greece and Cyprus and I have eaten it cooked much the same
way in Lebanese restaurants.

Bamies me salsa
(Okra in tomatoes )

Ingredients
1 kilo (2 lbs) small, fresh okra
salt
pepper
1/2 cup vinegar
1 cup olive oil
2 medium onions, peeled and chopped
2 cloves of garlic, thinly sliced - if you like it
500 g (1 lb) tomatoes - or more
2 teaspoons chopped parsley
1 teaspoon sugar

Trim the cone shaped tops from the okra without cutting the flesh of the
okra,
wash, drain and place on dish - layered with salt/vinegar if you have a lot
on the dish -
Sprinkle with salt, vinegar. Leave for half hour.
Was the okra again and dry thoroughly.

Heat olive oil in frying pan and add chopped onion (garlic). Cook slowly
until onion is tender.
Add okra and cook, stir lightly, until slightly browned.
Add tomatoes, peeled and chopped, salt and pepper.
Cover the pan and simmer for about 45 minutes, or until tender.
Add water if needed.

Serve hot as main dish, nice with chicken - also as stew/casserole with
chicken strips,
or cold as meze

mmm, another half hour until lunch and I'm sure I won't get bamies ...
Lena
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Yowie - 23 Oct 2006 12:06 GMT
>>> mmmm .... okra!  My okra seedlings are just germinating now, so it
>>> will be several months until we have any to harvest.  If okra is
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> mmm, another half hour until lunch and I'm sure I won't get bamies ...
> Lena

Did I just see Lena? Nah, couldn't be. She dropped off the planet ages ago!

Scritches to the Grey one and the Red one,

Yowie
Marina - 23 Oct 2006 13:17 GMT
> Did I just see Lena? Nah, couldn't be. She dropped off the planet ages ago!

No, can't be. The Mothership has spirited her away.

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lewe - 23 Oct 2006 17:21 GMT
>> Did I just see Lena? Nah, couldn't be. She dropped off the planet ages
>> ago!
>
> No, can't be. The Mothership has spirited her away.

I'm around - you just don't see me ...
just too much work and fed up with the 'puter when I'm not working ...
try to keep an eye on you all though - and when there is talk of okra ...

Grey and Red one say thanks for skritches, send purrs and headbutts
- they of course always do their share for The Purr even if I don't keep up
my end and post ...
talk to you both soon
Best
Lena

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polonca12000 - 28 Oct 2006 19:53 GMT
> I'm around - you just don't see me ...
> just too much work and fed up with the 'puter when I'm not working ...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Best
> Lena

Nice to hear from you, Lena.
Best wishes,
Polonca and Soncek
MaryL - 23 Oct 2006 22:29 GMT
>>> mmmm .... okra!  My okra seedlings are just germinating now, so it
>>> will be several months until we have any to harvest.  If okra is
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> mmm, another half hour until lunch and I'm sure I won't get bamies ...
> Lena

Sounds good!  I'll try that one, too.

MaryL
mlbriggs - 22 Oct 2006 05:36 GMT
>>Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
>>nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Tish

I'll admit it is slippery, but I really like it.MLB
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Oct 2006 07:21 GMT
>>Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
>>nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> very palatable.  I made the mistake only once of trying tinned okra -
> man-o-man was that stuff *nasty*!

The first time I tried to make fresh okra, I knew nothing
about its slime properties, so cooked it like my mother did
green beans - in a saucepan with lots of water!  (I had
pinkish goo all over my stove, because it of course boiled
over.)  Actually, I rather LIKE okra gumbo, but that takes
the nature of the beast into account.

> Tish
Joy - 22 Oct 2006 07:40 GMT
>>Yeah, but there's only vegemimite in, um, vegemite. I think it is damn
>>nice of the U.S. to let it got at this and not seek sanctions against
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Tish

Tinned is the only kind I've tasted, and I agree with you.  I've never
wanted to try it again.

Joy
rrb - 22 Oct 2006 21:30 GMT
> mmmm .... okra!  My okra seedlings are just germinating now, so it
> will be several months until we have any to harvest.  If okra is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Tish

The only time I have had okra was in a recipe for Jambalaya my
step-mother found and made. I don't know if okra is a common or proper
ingredient in Jambalaya but I could have done without it. It didn't seem
to make any difference in the taste however. The Jambalaya itself was ok
though.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Oct 2006 07:18 GMT
>> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
>> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> understand it, but how strange to ban it?I could swear that there is
> folate in things other than bread and cereal.

I suspect Tish is either repeating (or trying to start?) an
urban legend. ;-)
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Oct 2006 16:04 GMT
> >> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> >> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I suspect Tish is either repeating (or trying to start?) an
> urban legend. ;-)

No, she's not! I thought she was joking at first too, and I went
googling. Here is what I found:
from:
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20620744-953,00.html

US bans Vegemite
Kelvin Healey
October 22, 2006 12:00am
THE United States has slapped a ban on Vegemite, outraging Australian
expatriates there.

The bizarre crackdown was prompted because Vegemite contains folate,
which in the US can be added only to breads and cereals.
Expatriates say that enforcement of the ban has been stepped up
recently and is ruining lifelong traditions of having Vegemite on toast
for breakfast.

Former Geelong man Daniel Fogarty, who now lives in Calgary, Canada,
said he was stunned when searched while crossing the US border
recently.

"The border guard asked us if we were carrying any Vegemite," Mr
Fogarty said.

"I was flabbergasted." Paul Watkins, who owns a store called About
Australia in San Antonio, Texas, said he had been forced to stop
importing Vegemite six months ago.

"We have completely stopped bringing it in," he said.

"(US authorities) have made a stance and there is nothing that can be
done about it."
Dewi - 22 Oct 2006 02:51 GMT
LOL! There will be a mass of Aussie expats shifting from the US to
anywhere that vegemite is legal. Heaven forbid, some may have to resort
to promite.

I suppose it could be argued the folate was not added to the stuff, and
that it is naturally occuring. Vegimite sandwiches should be legal
though ;)

When my Dad travels he usually brings a large jar of vegemite with him
and sometimes donates the remainder to a vegimite-deprived-Australian
before he returns back home. He's a very compassionate man.

Dewi.

> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> LOL
> Tish
jmcquown - 22 Oct 2006 03:46 GMT
> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> LOL
> Tish

LOLOL  Well, considering I've never tasted Vegemite nor it's counterpart
Marmite, I'd have to say the USA will survive quite nicely ;)

Jill
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Oct 2006 04:32 GMT
> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> LOL
> Tish

This appears to be *such* a boneheaded thing. I had never heard of
vegemite, and I am not well-versed at all on the logistics of the
"ban", so forgive me that this post might be equally boneheaded.
They're banning it because it has folate added? What's the big deal
with that?? Judging from the info. that I just googled, they all say
that the risk of toxicity from over-absorbtion of folate is very low.
I daresay that it's still healthier for kids than a Big Mac. So are we
gonna ban those, too.
I take a prescription folic acid supplement, and lower doses are
available over the counter.
There's something really screwy going on with this I think.

Sherry
Dewi - 22 Oct 2006 04:39 GMT
sridd...@aol.com wrote:
> > I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> > yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Sherry

I thought there was somthing suspicious going on too.

Dewi.
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 05:36 GMT
>I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> LOL
> Tish

Do any of you remember the old "I Love Lucy" episode where Lucy was supposed
to do a commercial, but the more she took of the product the "drunker" she
became?  Wasn't the product she was "selling" called Vegemite or something
similar?

MaryL
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Oct 2006 06:03 GMT
> >I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> > yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> MaryL

Ha! I remember that! It was Vitameatavegamin.
And I was thinking that the Vegetmites were cartoon characters?

Sherry
tension_on_the_wire - 22 Oct 2006 06:28 GMT
> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
> searching Australians entering the USA and confiscating their precious
> vegemite (black gold).

Yes, here in the US, black gold is used to refer to crude oil.
Is there a similarity, perhaps?  We don't eat it here, though.  8^P

> Since vegemite is the
> by-product of beer brewing (being extracted from the sludge left at
> the bottom of the vat during brewing - doesn't it sound enticing?),

Aha! Now I understand why it seems similar to our black gold, heh.
I must say, Men At Work aside with vegemite sandwiches, I can't
say I will much miss something that came from the bottom of a
beer vat!!  8^P

--tension
tension_on_the_wire - 22 Oct 2006 06:29 GMT
> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> is neither bread nor cereal.  Australia would grind to a slow, painful
> halt if vegemite disappeared, so *how* will the USA cope?

Could we offer you some "Spam" in exchange?
Remember real, non-computer Spam?

--tension
MaryL - 22 Oct 2006 06:38 GMT
>> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
>> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> --tension

I keep a few cans of Spam -- along with tuna, canned chicken, etc. -- on
hand to use in case of emergency.  I was glad I had it after Hurricane Rita
came through here and I was without power for 7 days.  Of course, that's the
*only* time I eat Spam!

MaryL
Tish - 22 Oct 2006 08:08 GMT
>Could we offer you some "Spam" in exchange?
>Remember real, non-computer Spam?
>
>--tension

I live in an area with a lot of Pacific Islander immigrants and spam
is a big feature of the local supermarkets.  Until I moved to this
region I never realised the *variety* of spam that is available.  But
no thanks, it still tastes like something nasty and second-hand, so
I'll give it a miss.
Did you read about the bloke in Britain who runs a "chippie" that
specialises in deep-fried Spam?  Enough to give you a heart attack
just reading about it!

Tish
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Oct 2006 18:46 GMT
>>Could we offer you some "Spam" in exchange?
>>Remember real, non-computer Spam?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> specialises in deep-fried Spam?  Enough to give you a heart attack
> just reading about it!

Back during WW2, my Mom used to roast it for Sunday dinner
(with brown-sugar and mustard on top, the same way she did
ham).  I liked it, then - but I think it was better quality
then (like so many other tinned foods, in the past).  Once
artificial additives were invented, the manufacturers
embraced them enthusiastically, and taste and quality went
down the tubes.

> Tish
sriddles@aol.com - 22 Oct 2006 19:14 GMT
> >>Could we offer you some "Spam" in exchange?
> >>Remember real, non-computer Spam?
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> embraced them enthusiastically, and taste and quality went
> down the tubes.

My grandmother used to slice & panfry it and serve it up with eggs &
biscuits for breakfast. I think it was different then, too, becuase I
liked it then, and now it gags me.
My DH likes it..  Seriously.

Sherry
Christina Websell - 22 Oct 2006 23:24 GMT
>> >>Could we offer you some "Spam" in exchange?
>> >>Remember real, non-computer Spam?
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> liked it then, and now it gags me.
> My DH likes it..  Seriously.

It's still available here, in tins.  My mother used to slice it and put it
in sandwiches with tomato and fry it too for breakfast with eggs.  It was
pretty cheap at the time.
It's just preformed pork, I don't eat it now, but I could if I had to.  It's
quite nice fried. A bit like bacon.  Ish.

Tweed
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Oct 2006 04:18 GMT
> It's still available here, in tins.  My mother used to slice it and put it
> in sandwiches with tomato and fry it too for breakfast with eggs.  It was
> pretty cheap at the time.
> It's just preformed pork, I don't eat it now, but I could if I had to.  It's
> quite nice fried. A bit like bacon.  Ish.

Oh, it's AVAILABLE here, too - but like so many things in
our mass-production world, it isn't the same thing as it was
years ago.  (Same ingredients, plus all sorts of additives
that make it yucky.)

> Tweed
Yowie - 23 Oct 2006 12:08 GMT
>>>Could we offer you some "Spam" in exchange?
>>>Remember real, non-computer Spam?
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> manufacturers embraced them enthusiastically, and taste and quality went
> down the tubes.

My mother used to make 'toad in the hole' with it.

Yummmmmmmmm.

Yowie
Rhonda - 22 Oct 2006 07:04 GMT
>  Australia would grind to a slow, painful
> halt if vegemite disappeared, so *how* will the USA cope?

I tried vegemite once. I almost ground to a slow, painful halt myself.  :)

Rhonda
Joy - 22 Oct 2006 07:44 GMT
>>  Australia would grind to a slow, painful
>> halt if vegemite disappeared, so *how* will the USA cope?
>
> I tried vegemite once. I almost ground to a slow, painful halt myself.  :)
>
> Rhonda

LOL!  I think the gallons of water I guzzled after trying it kept me from
coming to a halt.  I had to keep running back and forth, if you know what I
mean.  ;-)

Joy
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Oct 2006 07:17 GMT
> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> is neither bread nor cereal.  Australia would grind to a slow, painful
> halt if vegemite disappeared, so *how* will the USA cope?

If you're talking about commercial importing, I cannot make
an imformed comment, but I have yet to have any edibles but
fresh fruit confiscated by U. S. customs!  If it's tinned or
bottled, and only in quantities commensurate with personal
use, why would they care?

> LOL
> Tish
Joy - 22 Oct 2006 07:39 GMT
>I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> LOL
> Tish

LOL!  How indeed!  I have actually met a grand total of *one* American who
can sta - I mean, who likes the stuff.  <G>

Joy
Yowie - 22 Oct 2006 10:50 GMT
>>I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
>> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> LOL!  How indeed!  I have actually met a grand total of *one* American who
> can sta - I mean, who likes the stuff.  <G>

Vegemite was the first 'real' food hte Yowlet ever ate. And now vegemite
toasts is the *only* thing he will eat for breakfast (and sometimes lunch
and dinner too!). We as a family would curl up and die wihout our daily
serve of vegemite!

Yowie
Adrian A - 22 Oct 2006 11:45 GMT
>>> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
>>> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Yowie

I've eaten lots of Marmite but have never tried Vegemite, I must get a jar
and try it.
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badwilson - 22 Oct 2006 16:21 GMT
LOL!  Just one more reason not to ever set foot in the US again, not
like I had planned to anyway, but that's besides the point.  But!!!!  I
sure hope Canada doesn't follow suit.  I do need to go to Canada
occasionally, considering our family and friends are there.  That would
just suck because I have become a hardened vegemite addict since moving
to Australia and cannot start my day without my 2 slices of whole grain
toast with vegemite.  I think I must have gone through at least 10 jars
(the 2nd largest size) already!
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> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> LOL
> Tish
Dewi - 23 Oct 2006 07:13 GMT
I think that's all you need to become an Australian citizen. The
paperwork must be in the post by now ;)

Dewi.

> LOL!  Just one more reason not to ever set foot in the US again, not
> like I had planned to anyway, but that's besides the point.  But!!!!  I
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> > LOL
> > Tish
badwilson - 23 Oct 2006 11:27 GMT
Yeah, I wish!  I would *so* be all over that!
At this point you need to have lived in Australia for 2 years and not
have left for the last year of it.  I have been here for 6 months.  But
there is talk of increasing it to 4 years residency and with my luck
that will be started to be enforced a month before my 2 years are up!
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> I think that's all you need to become an Australian citizen. The
> paperwork must be in the post by now ;)
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>>> LOL
>>> Tish
Dewi - 23 Oct 2006 13:17 GMT
Hopefully the 4-year rule will only apply to those arriving after they
implement it. They are so strict aren't they?!

Dewi.

> Yeah, I wish!  I would *so* be all over that!
> At this point you need to have lived in Australia for 2 years and not
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> >>> LOL
> >>> Tish
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Oct 2006 18:28 GMT
> Yeah, I wish!  I would *so* be all over that!
> At this point you need to have lived in Australia for 2 years and not
> have left for the last year of it.  I have been here for 6 months.  But
> there is talk of increasing it to 4 years residency and with my luck
> that will be started to be enforced a month before my 2 years are up!

Well, of course governments can do what they please, but are
you sure it will be retroactive?  The fair thing would be to
make it effective as of a specific date (probably the date
it becomes officially the law), so anyone starting to
establish residency before that date would still be covered
by the old rules.
SuzQ - 22 Oct 2006 16:28 GMT
I'm a Vegamite virgin and guess this ruling will preserve my innoscence.
Suz&Spicey
Kreisleriana - 22 Oct 2006 16:32 GMT
>I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
>yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>LOL
>Tish

Most of us will survive very well.  I worry about the Aussie
expatriates, like my ex.  I used to get him Vegemite for his birthdays
and Xmas, and I'm sure he has located some way of acquiring it out
there in Los Angeles-- until now, I suppose.  It just doesn't seem
right.

Although "weaponized Vegemite" does seem somehow plausible. ;)

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rrb - 22 Oct 2006 21:27 GMT
> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> LOL
> Tish

Well, having never tried it, and having NO desire to after hearing the
description of it. I think myself and others like me will do just fine.
I realize that your statement was in jest - I think - but my guess is
only Australians that are here will miss it much.
Tish - 22 Oct 2006 22:03 GMT
>> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
>> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>I realize that your statement was in jest - I think - but my guess is
>only Australians that are here will miss it much.

Yes it was in jest.  Vegemite is a flavor that most folks find
repulsive. Banning it from import to the USA is not going to do any
damage to Australia's exports, but will annoy the ex-pat Australians
who rely on their "fix" on a daily basis.
I thought it was hysterical that the US Customs was so serious about
banning it that they were searching folks-with-funny-accents (read:
Australians) at US borders!
Tish
Chakolate - 23 Oct 2006 03:48 GMT
> I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
> yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> is neither bread nor cereal.  Australia would grind to a slow, painful
> halt if vegemite disappeared, so *how* will the USA cope?

By importing Marmite?

Chak

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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 24 Oct 2006 02:17 GMT
>I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
>yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>LOL
>Tish

Darn.  Now I'll never get to try it!

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Kreisleriana - 24 Oct 2006 04:14 GMT
>>I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
>>yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Darn.  Now I'll never get to try it!

You'll just have to go to Australia. ;0

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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 27 Oct 2006 17:35 GMT
>>Darn.  Now I'll never get to try it!
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Make Levees, Not War

LOL!

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Stormin Mormon - 30 Oct 2006 14:40 GMT
Just watch. Now we'll have to go to the corner to get an unregistered
hand gun, a couple hits of crack cocaine, and a bottle of vegemite.

When vegemite is outlawed, only outlaws will have vegemite.

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I learned this morning of a terrible thing.  The U.S.A. has banned,
yes *banned* the importation of vegemite, to the extent where they are
searching Australians entering the USA and confiscating their precious
vegemite (black gold).  This is apparently because it contains added
folate (a B vitamin) and the FDA stipulates that folate may only be an
added ingredient to bread and cereals.  Since vegemite is the
by-product of beer brewing (being extracted from the sludge left at
the bottom of the vat during brewing - doesn't it sound enticing?), it
is neither bread nor cereal.  Australia would grind to a slow, painful
halt if vegemite disappeared, so *how* will the USA cope?

LOL
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