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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / October 2006Dave G
Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. Dave G is not well. One of the three valves in his heart isn't working. He is banned from doing any work, and although not quite bed ridden, can't do anything at all active or stressful. Its driving him utterly nuts. He needs angioplasty (a heart operation). Trouble is, he's in a small country town 3 hours away from the nearest place that will do such a thing, and being on a pension now (since he can't work), its an operation paid for by Medicare rather than out of private insurance. Thus he has to wait. And wait. And wait. Dave has been waiting 3 months. His GP is going nuts as well, because this is an *urgent* operation, something that ought to be carried out immediately after diagnosis, not a it of plastic surgery that doesn't actually need to be done. But such are the vagueries of living in a small country town and not having the money to hurry things up. Dot is also under alot of stress, trying to look after a husband who is acting much like a caged bear. Fibromyalgia is one of htose wierd diseases that is very sensitive to stress, so this situation isn't helping her any either. Dave will kill me anyway (once he's allowed), but any purrs you can throw their way would greatly be appreciated. He's at the same snail mail addy and e-mail address he's always been at (although I won't post them here) but if you want to drop him a line, I'm sure he'd apreciate it. I can also forward him stuff if you don't know his addy (mind my spamtrap). Yowie > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Yowie Mega purrs!! That's terrible :( I sure hope he can get the operation soon. Did they even give him an estimate?? > Dave will kill me anyway (once he's allowed), but any purrs you can throw > their way would greatly be appreciated. He's at the same snail mail addy and We're sending lots and lots of purrs for the bureaucrats to get their act together and authorize his surgery soon!  SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Many, many purrs for Dave. I really hope he gets his operation in time. My dad went through the exact same thing in 2002. He had a leaking heart valve and it needed replacing. It was diagnosed in early December 2001 and he was put on a waiting list for the op. In Canada you have no other choice anyway. They said it would take about 6 months. He got so much worse and worse and worse all the time that by March he could hardly breathe much less walk. We were looking into having him fly to Thailand and have the operation there because it was looking like he wouldn't survive another 2-3 months. But then an opening came up for the surgery in April and he finally got his operation. He is fully recovered now and bikes and swims 2 hours a day. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > (mind my spamtrap). > Yowie > Many, many purrs for Dave. I really hope he gets his operation in time. > My dad went through the exact same thing in 2002. He had a leaking [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the surgery in April and he finally got his operation. He is fully > recovered now and bikes and swims 2 hours a day. I have heard quite a few people say that in Canada, you always have to wait for routine and non-emergency procedures, but if you have a life- threatening condition, you get what you need right away. But I guess that's not always the case, or perhaps not true in all provinces. That's really shameful! I'm glad your dad survived that and is in such good health now! Joyce > > Many, many purrs for Dave. I really hope he gets his operation in time. > > My dad went through the exact same thing in 2002. He had a leaking [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > the surgery in April and he finally got his operation. He is fully > > recovered now and bikes and swims 2 hours a day. > I have heard quite a few people say that in Canada, you always have to > wait for routine and non-emergency procedures, but if you have a life- > threatening condition, you get what you need right away. But I guess > that's not always the case, or perhaps not true in all provinces. That's > really shameful! I'm glad your dad survived that and is in such good > health now! Oh - that wasn't supposed to refer to Dave G, who I know is not in Canada. I was just referring to Britta's dad's situation. Purrs for Dave and Dot!! Joyce >> Many, many purrs for Dave. I really hope he gets his operation in >> time. My dad went through the exact same thing in 2002. He had a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Joyce No, you have to wait for everything. There is only so much equipment, space and staff available for surgeries and procedures. The most urgent go to the top of course, but they can only do what they can do. It has nothing to do with insurance companies or burocracy, it's just because there simply aren't enough doctors and nurses and equipment. And the reason for this is because there isn't enough money to pay for them. And in order to get enough money, taxes would have to be raised considerably and they are already very, very high. Or people would have to start paying more out of their own pocket. So I don't know what the best answer to the problem is. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > >> Many, many purrs for Dave. I really hope he gets his operation in > >> time. My dad went through the exact same thing in 2002. He had a [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > -- > Britta Just curious, are taxes in Canada as high as Australia? Dewi. >>>> Many, many purrs for Dave. I really hope he gets his operation in >>>> time. My dad went through the exact same thing in 2002. He had a [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Dewi. It's funny because when comparing tax rates online for an income of $60,000/year, it seems to be about the same. But in real life, it seems that Canada is way higher. One thing I really like about Australia is that in stores, the price you see is the price you pay. The tax is included. In Canada, you see the before tax price and then you have to add on an average of 14% for GST and PST. That's very frustrating. SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > It's funny because when comparing tax rates online for an income of > $60,000/year, it seems to be about the same. But in real life, it seems [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > before tax price and then you have to add on an average of 14% for GST > and PST. That's very frustrating. I like knowing how much of what I pay is going to tax, so I prefer the Canadian system. I'm sorry your father had such a bad experience, but it's not always like that. I have a relative in hospital right now - there's been no delay in treatment at all. SignatureCheryl >> It's funny because when comparing tax rates online for an income of >> $60,000/year, it seems to be about the same. But in real life, it seems [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I like knowing how much of what I pay is going to tax, so I prefer the >Canadian system. From what I remember they actually put two prices on the tags - the base price and the GST. But since it's a flat 10% it's not nearly as hard to deal with as US taxes... I really prefered it - how on earth am I supposed to figure out 6.something percent tax myself? I never have a clue how much anything is going to cost me in Florida and I hate it! >>> It's funny because when comparing tax rates online for an income of >>> $60,000/year, it seems to be about the same. But in real life, it seems [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > From what I remember they actually put two prices on the tags - the > base price and the GST. They only did that whilst the GST was new. Now its just accepted and the price advertised is the price you end up paying, regardless of whether that particualr item attracts a GST or not. The receipt you get specifies whether the item had GST on it, and will give you the break down of how much GST you payed in total for your purchases. > But since it's a flat 10% it's not nearly as > hard to deal with as US taxes... I really prefered it - how on earth > am I supposed to figure out 6.something percent tax myself? I never > have a clue how much anything is going to cost me in Florida and I > hate it! Ergh, I'd hate it too. But I reckon I'd suddenly get *real* good at my 6 times table. LOL Yowie >>>> It's funny because when comparing tax rates online for an income of >>>> $60,000/year, it seems to be about the same. But in real life, it [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Yowie Try living in California where in some counties the tax is 7.25% but in others it can be slightly higher. Its actually worse if you are good at math and try to figure out if you are being charged the right amount. (Not everything is taxable). Easier if you suck at math and just decide to pay whatever they say and forget it. In addition some merchants have quit using pennies. If you are paying cash and your change would include pennies you will get back an amount rounded up to the nearest five cents. Jo >>>>> It's funny because when comparing tax rates online for an income >>>>> of $60,000/year, it seems to be about the same. But in real [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Jo That's another thing I like about Australia: there are no pennies. Everything gets rounded to the nearest 5 cents, it's great. But the thing that gets me is why do they have a 20 cent coin and a 50 cent coin instead of a nice and simple 25 cent coin? Especially when those 2 coins are gigantic! SignatureBritta Purring is an automatic safety valve device for dealing with happiness overflow. Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > They only did that whilst the GST was new. Now its just accepted and the > price advertised is the price you end up paying, regardless of whether that > particualr item attracts a GST or not. > > The receipt you get specifies whether the item had GST on it, and will give > you the break down of how much GST you payed in total for your purchases. Here, they only advertise the price you pay. The receipt shows the total amount of taxes, but not a breakdown for every item. The tax varies according to product. Had a look at some old receipts from the bottom of my bag. Brace yourselves - we have much higher taxes here - the tax for food items were either 17 % or 22 %. I found a receipt for books, too. The tax for them is only 8 %. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > Here, they only advertise the price you pay. The receipt shows the total > amount of taxes, but not a breakdown for every item. The tax varies [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. That is high. Doesn't seem right that food is taxed more than books. Dewi. >> It's funny because when comparing tax rates online for an income of >> $60,000/year, it seems to be about the same. But in real life, it seems [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I like knowing how much of what I pay is going to tax, so I prefer the > Canadian system. Fresh food (not cooked) and medicine is tax-free, everything else has a flat 10% GST included. Every docket you get specifies whether the item had GST or not. This system replaced the old system of tariffs, surcharges and other variable, hidden taxes. Some prices went up, some went down, and income tax was lessened when the GST came in, but the government still manages to get about the same amount of money out of us, one way or another. Personally I like knowing how much change I'm going to get from a $20 without having to do percentile mathematics (especially if the tax wasn't a nice round 10%), but YMMV. Yowie > This system replaced the old system of tariffs, surcharges and other > variable, hidden taxes. Some prices went up, some went down, and income tax > was lessened when the GST came in, but the government still manages to get > about the same amount of money out of us, one way or another. I think income tax is much more fair than sales tax, myself. With sales tax, everyone pays the same amount, no matter how much or how little money they earn. So that puts a larger burden, relative to income, on people with less money. Whereas income tax that uses tax brackets to compute different percentages depending on income is a lot more fair. This does impose more burden on people with more money in terms of actual dollars (or whatever currency is used), but not relative to how much they have. I think this is why income tax is usually called "progressive" tax, while sales tax, road tolls, etc, are considered "regressive." Just my (untaxed) $.02 Joyce > I think income tax is much more fair than sales tax, myself. With sales > tax, everyone pays the same amount, no matter how much or how little money [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > impose more burden on people with more money in terms of actual dollars > (or whatever currency is used), but not relative to how much they have. Well, IMHO sales tax has two advantages: 1. You cannot avoid or lessen it. With income taxes and the usual exception rules often the people with higher income - having access to better consulting - can save a lot and sometimes pay less income tax than people who cannot afford good consultation. 2. If you have a higher income you most likely buy higher priced goods and so you pay more income tax. If you like, you can tax goods differently. In Germany we have two steps of sales tax. 7% are added to basic goods like food, books, public transport. All other goods are taxed at 16% and will rise to 19% on January 1st 2007 :-(( Squarely Yours Michael SignatureSquare Dance is friendship put to music Andrea and Michael with tomcat-cats Blacky and Merlin More detailed info: http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de > Well, IMHO sales tax has two advantages: > 1. You cannot avoid or lessen it. With income taxes and the usual > exception rules often the people with higher income - having access to > better consulting - can save a lot and sometimes pay less income tax > than people who cannot afford good consultation. > 2. If you have a higher income you most likely buy higher priced goods > and so you pay more income tax. Good points! :) Can't do much cheating on sales tax. > If you like, you can tax goods differently. In Germany we have two > steps of sales tax. 7% are added to basic goods like food, books, > public transport. All other goods are taxed at 16% and will rise to > 19% on January 1st 2007 :-(( That's an interesting way to do it. That way, at least people who don't have a lot of money can buy necessities without having to pay exorbitant sales tax. (In Massachusetts, they don't tax food at all, nor clothes. In California, groceries aren't taxed, but you do pay tax on clothes. I imagine different states in the US handle this differently.) But wow, 19% - that's a high percentage. I wouldn't mind paying it if the money went for stuff I could use, such as health care, higher education, public transport (hey, you're taxing it, might as well put some of that money back into it), and so on. Then I wouldn't *need* as much money in my pocket, because many of the things I now use it for would be much cheaper or even free. There's a lot of waste in this country, as well as corruption, on many levels of government, so the people who are paying the taxes often don't see a lot of the benefits. So I can understand being resentful about taxation - it just feels like your money is being taken from you for no good reason. Not to imply there's no waste or corruption in other places, too, but I don't know as much about that. It sounds like at least some of the tax money gets put to good use in Germany! Joyce > But wow, 19% - that's a high percentage. I wouldn't mind paying it > if the money went for stuff I could use, such as health care, higher [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Joyce There's alot of wastage here in Australia too (and in most countires I expect). My DH works for the department of education and he has told me about the amount of wastage of tax payers money that occurs. Millions and millions of $ wasted on projects that don't produce anything useful, projects that are run very badly and the constant re-structuring that seems to occur within the govt departments. And this is just what my husband knows off. No wonder there is very little left for hospitals, schools, universities and other important things. Dewi. > > public transport. All other goods are taxed at 16% and will rise to > > 19% on January 1st 2007 :-(( >But wow, 19% - that's a high percentage. I wouldn't mind paying it >if the money went for stuff I could use, such as health care, higher On top of the 19% sales tax, Germany has a progressive income tax with a cap at 42% for normal to high incomes and 45% for very high incomes (above 250K EUR per year) Pity is that this money will get spent in lowering the taxes for large corporations. Y'know, the ones who are transferring jobs to sweatshops and slave labor in camps for political prisoners (vid Amnesty International's Annual reports for that). And while they're at it, politicians are making it even more difficult for Mom-and-Pop shops and medium sized companies to survive. The only way I have to understand politicians is by being cynical :-/ Sigh Aleks THE PURRS, PRAYERS and a swift kick in the butt for the person needing to make the decision are being sent > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie And the same from me. Joy > THE PURRS, PRAYERS > and a swift kick in the butt for the person needing to make the decision [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> >> Yowie Oh no :( Prayers going out to him. Grace > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie Oh no! Dave, get better soon. We miss you too much. Purrs, doggie drool and good thought winging their way to you. Hopefully things will work out really fast. We miss you. Diane > Dave G is not well. One of the three valves in his heart isn't working. > Dave will kill me anyway (once he's allowed), but any purrs you can throw > their way would greatly be appreciated. He's at the same snail mail addy and > e-mail address he's always been at (although I won't post them here) but if > you want to drop him a line, I'm sure he'd apreciate it. I can also forward > him stuff if you don't know his addy (mind my spamtrap). Lots of purrs on the way for both Dave and Dot. Tell them we miss them. SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. Stories and pics at http://koti.welho.com/mkurten/ Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Yowie Many purrs for Dave and Dot. I *hate* bureaucracy! I hope his doctor can call the Medicare people and light a fire under them. Jill > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie Oh, Yowie. I am so sorry to hear that. That is a real shame that he can't just get the procedure done and get it over with. Angioplasty is not a terribly complicated procedure, (well, anything to do with the heart is very serious, but you knw what I mean. It's very common and the vast majority of people do very well) and he will feel so much better once it's over with. Sherry Mega purrs and prayers for Dave and Dot. I hope Dave gets the treatment he needs soon and that he recovers well. Dewi. > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > > Dave G is not well. One of the three valves in his heart isn't working. He > is banned from doing any work, and although not quite bed ridden, can't do > anything at all active or stressful. Its driving him utterly nuts. Purrs a-coming from Dunzi and Sarsi who just fell off the curtain rail and is currently doing her best "I meat to do that" look. Dunzi is spending her morning as usual in contemplation of the infinite Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Yowie Lots of purrs for Dave and Dot. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera) Cats leave pawprints on your heart. http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk >Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Yowie Lots of purrs for Dave and Dot on the way. Randy http://picasaweb.google.com/crmartin1 http://kittenwar.com/kittens/74045/ >Dave G is not well. I'm so terribly sorry to hear this. Dave is a wonderful, kind man and we send all the special purrs and prayers we can muster for him and for Dot. Hoping hard that he can get the help he needs ASAP. Jeanne Jeanne Hajos spamguard:( u is i, and not is net) === "Anger improves nothing except the arch of a cat's back." --- Coleman Cox My SETI team: Purrs on the way. Ann Signatureread Sam's blog at http://kittens-3.blogspot.com/ see pictures of Sam at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ann791/my_photos > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie Big time purrs on the way for Dave G. SignatureSam, closely supervised by Mistletoe Please send on my wishes. I am glad you told us what's been happening. I hope some news of the surgery being booked very soon comes quickly and that Dot starts to feel a bit better. fuga > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie Yowie, Please tell Dave and Pat we're thinking of them and sending them healthy, calming, patience purrs and sending mindspeak to the hospital administrators that they want to find a spot for Dave right away. I'm on vacation this week so I'm away from normal files. I'll send him a card when I return. Julie > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Yowie I'm so sorry to hear about Dave. He has helped so many people while he was working and now he has to wait for the operation he needs immediately. My uncle needed a by-pass surgery and he had to wait for a long time too. It was really hard. But now he is well again and I do hope Dave will get the operation he needs soonest and recover completely. We are thinking of him and Dot, sending lots and lots of purrs and best wishes, Polonca and Soncek >Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Yowie I am so sorry to hear about this. Thanks for letting us know, Yowie. Purrs to Dave and Dot, and lighting-a-fire-under-their-rears energy to get this scheduled NOW! Ginger-lyn Home Pages: http://www.moonsummer.com http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website) > Tweed's post about Lesley's Dave reminded me of another Dave, Dave G. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > paid for by Medicare rather than out of private insurance. Thus he has to > wait. And wait. And wait. Oh man, that totally bites! Lots of purrs and healing thoughts from all of us here for Dave G to get his operation and for Dot to be able to rest easy again. Please keep us informed about how he and Dot are doing. Pam S. on behalf of the Fayetteville mafia Hi Yowie, Have you been in contact with Dave and Dot? Is there an update on Dave's situation? I know what it's like, living in a rural area - wonderful lifestyle if you're fit and healthy, but a sticky trap if you're unwell. It must be particuarly galling considering he was a paramedic and spent all his time and effort helping people when in trouble. We absolutely don't want to risk losing another Dave - they're far too precious. If you talk or email with them, please give them a big "hello" from us. Tish |
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