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...at least, I *hope* it was from Smudge!

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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Oct 2006 09:27 GMT
I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
rat lying right in front of my front door. Smudge came trotting up the
stairs with me (my front door is on the second-floor landing), and she
didn't seem the slightest bit fazed by it, so this makes me think she
was not surprised by it or curious about what it could be. So I guess
it was my first hunting lesson from her.

At least, I hope so. I shudder to think how else it might have gotten
there!

Joyce
Micha - 05 Oct 2006 12:19 GMT
> I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
> rat lying right in front of my front door. Smudge came trotting up the
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>
> Joyce

We know, who brought us some rats:

http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/micky_8.htm
http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/micky_9.htm
http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/micky_10.htm
http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/micky_11.htm

http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/katergruppen_20.htm
http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/katergruppen_21.htm
http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/katergruppen_22.htm
http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/katergruppen_23.htm
http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/katergruppen_24.htm
http://www.curschmann-sachsen.de/katergruppen_25.htm

Merlin's errands to that respect are not yet documented on our
website.

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Michael
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Oct 2006 19:35 GMT
> I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
> rat lying right in front of my front door.

By the way, I meant to ask this question: how does one get rid of such
a "gift"? I have never had to deal with this before. I haven't had an
indoor/outdoor cat since childhood, and if my childhood cats left their
kills in our path, I wasn't the one to clean it up.

Do I throw it in the trash? Toss it into the tall grass? Flushing it
down the toilet is out of the question - I have terrible plumbing and
this thing is about 7 inches (17.78 cm) long, not counting the tail.

I'm rather grossed out by this and being a *tad* wussy about it, but I
would like to get rid of it before the situation gets any worse, if you
know what I mean.

Thanks,
Joyce
Jo Firey - 05 Oct 2006 21:23 GMT
> > I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
> > rat lying right in front of my front door.
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> Thanks,
> Joyce

We usually pick them up using a plastic bag such as the ones you get with
groceries.  Put your hand inside the bag, pick the varmint up and turn the
bag inside out over it then tie it shut.  Put in outdoor garbage can.

Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Oct 2006 22:10 GMT
> We usually pick them up using a plastic bag such as the ones you get with
> groceries.  Put your hand inside the bag, pick the varmint up and turn the
> bag inside out over it then tie it shut.  Put in outdoor garbage can.

Ah, like picking up a dog poop. OK, not a bad idea. I might need to use
some paper towels, too - like 5 inches' thickness worth, LOL. I know, I'm
a big baby! :)

Joyce
Jo Firey - 05 Oct 2006 22:15 GMT
> > We usually pick them up using a plastic bag such as the ones you get
> > with
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>
> Joyce

There is also double and triple bagging with garden gloves (when not
absolutely positive sure the varmint is entirely dead)

Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 05 Oct 2006 22:26 GMT
> > Ah, like picking up a dog poop. OK, not a bad idea. I might need to use
> > some paper towels, too - like 5 inches' thickness worth, LOL. I know, I'm
> > a big baby! :)

> There is also double and triple bagging with garden gloves (when not
> absolutely positive sure the varmint is entirely dead)

Great suggestion - you're a life-saver!! :)

Thanks,
Joyce
tension_on_the_wire - 05 Oct 2006 22:13 GMT
> We usually pick them up using a plastic bag such as the ones you get with
> groceries.  Put your hand inside the bag, pick the varmint up and turn the
> bag inside out over it then tie it shut.  Put in outdoor garbage can.
>
> Jo

Very similar to the distasteful task of picking up
after "dingleberries du merde" from a
Russian deerhound, I suspect.  8^P

--tension
Joy - 06 Oct 2006 01:36 GMT
>> > I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
>> > rat lying right in front of my front door.
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>
> Jo

I use a zipper bag, usually with a paper towel between the corpse and the
bag.  After that, it depends on the weather and the day of the week.  If it
isn't too hot, and it's only a day or two until trash pickup, I put it in
the trash can and close the hinged lid.  (I usually keep it open for ease in
tossing items in).  However, in hot weather, when it is several days until
trash pickup, I have to do something I really hate to do.  The trash can is
in the garage, and even a small moldering body can create quite an aroma in
a closed garage in hot weather.  I also have a large upright freezer in the
garage.  The bottom section of the door of this freezer is reserved for such
occasions.  During this past summer, Nanki-Poo was particularly active, and
there were a couple of weeks when there were two or three plastic bags
there, with contents concealed by paper towels.  :-(

Joy
Jo Firey - 06 Oct 2006 03:20 GMT
>>> > I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
>>> > rat lying right in front of my front door.
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>
> Joy

I'm with you.  Isn't something I like to do, but its the best alternative
sometimes.  It also provides for reasonable quick euthanasia for the almost
but not quite yet dead bird.  Lots of plastic bags involved.  Then again we
have a garbage shelf in the freezer in the summer for some kitchen waste
too,

Jo
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 06 Oct 2006 09:13 GMT
Well, I took Jo's advice, put on a gardening glove, stuck my hand inside
two plastic bags, and picked up the rat like I was picking up dog doo-doo.
Turned the bags inside out, tied it up, and threw it in the trash.

Marina, you're right that ants could probably dispatch the rat pretty
quickly. In fact, I'm surprised they didn't come after it while it was
out there - I left it there for 24 hours, and I *know* there are plenty
of ant colonies right around here, because they have marched, uninvited,
right through my front door and gone for the cat food. Well, they missed
their chance.

That's over with, and it wasn't as horrible as I expected it to be.
Can't wait to see what Smudge brings home next! :-/

By the way, Marina - this was not her first kill! That happened about
8 years ago when she managed to bring down a mourning dove from the
balcony in my old apartment. I had left the sliding glass door open so
she could come inside, but I was sleeping in my bedroom with the door
closed, because Roxy was still a baby kitten then, and she had a bad
cold, so I was keeping the cats separate. When I woke up and came out
into the living room, there were bird feathers all over the place. No
bird anywhere - I think she'd eaten all of it. What a vacuuming job
that was! I think Smudge has managed to hunt many things at various
times when she's gotten outside, with or without a leash.

Joyce
Marina - 06 Oct 2006 13:39 GMT
> Marina, you're right that ants could probably dispatch the rat pretty
> quickly. In fact, I'm surprised they didn't come after it while it was
> out there - I left it there for 24 hours, and I *know* there are plenty
> of ant colonies right around here, because they have marched, uninvited,
> right through my front door and gone for the cat food. Well, they missed
> their chance.

I don't know if feeding the ants meat is such a good idea, after all.
Mum has been complaining about how aggressive those ants have become.
;o) So maybe it's just as well.

> By the way, Marina - this was not her first kill! That happened about
> 8 years ago when she managed to bring down a mourning dove from the
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> that was! I think Smudge has managed to hunt many things at various
> times when she's gotten outside, with or without a leash.

Oh, I didn't realise that Smudge was a seasoned killer already! I always
think it's very impressive when cats manage to catch something while on
a leash. Miranda's half-uncle, Kasper, does that too.

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Marina - 06 Oct 2006 05:08 GMT
>  > I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
>  > rat lying right in front of my front door.
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> would like to get rid of it before the situation gets any worse, if you
> know what I mean.

First, congratulations to Smudge for entering the clan of huntresses. I
don't know if this will work for you, but what I do to uneaten
'presents' on the island is, I toss them into this big anthill. They are
taken apart in a matter hours. Throwing it in the tall grass should also
work, *someone* will take it apart, whether ants or other insects.
There's a whole system of natural waste management out there. ;o)

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Joy - 06 Oct 2006 07:53 GMT
>>  > I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
>>  > rat lying right in front of my front door.
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> *someone* will take it apart, whether ants or other insects. There's a
> whole system of natural waste management out there. ;o)

I suspect it depends on where you are.  If I threw Nanki-Poo's catch out in
the yard, he'd probably drag it back in through the cat door.  Fortunately,
I don't have any big anthills in my yard.

Joy
Marina - 06 Oct 2006 13:41 GMT
> I suspect it depends on where you are.  If I threw Nanki-Poo's catch out in
> the yard, he'd probably drag it back in through the cat door.  Fortunately,
> I don't have any big anthills in my yard.

There's that, of course. If something managed to get inside the
enclosure here in town, and the cats killed it, I wouldn't have an
anthill to dispose of it here either.

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John F. Eldredge - 06 Oct 2006 14:00 GMT
>>>  > I got home tonight around midnight, and found a very large, very dead
>>>  > rat lying right in front of my front door.
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>the yard, he'd probably drag it back in through the cat door.  Fortunately,
>I don't have any big anthills in my yard.

I have usually dealt with carrion by burying it.  That way, you don't
have to smell it while the ants are dealing with it.  This usually
involves a possum or squirrel that chose the wrong time to cross the
street.

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